Hi everyone and many kind thanks to the people that replied to my query re the NY census. A member very kindly sent me the web link for the Steve Morse site: http://stevemorse.org/ - which is a fantastic resource....... yet I still can't find the correct address details - and looking at this site its obvious that I should!! (I'm obviously doing something wrong but can't work out what). Christina was born in Limerick in 1886 and was headed for her sister Mary at 255 West 10th St, NY. From the site above, I can find a West St - and a 10th Av - but these are not the same address (I saw the census pages and couldn't match up the house number, 255). Christina arrived in NY on the SS Baltic on 2 September 1904, so maybe on the 1905 census. I will check out other suggestions but if anyone can help with this, you'd make an old lady very happy! (I'm doing this on behalf of a distant cousin, an old Irish lady who is almost 80 and has wondered all her life what happened to her aunt, Christina). Thank you everyone, you're a brilliant crowd! Theresa This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. Registered office is at the above address. Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. All payments are due within 30 days of the date of invoice. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. 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Re: query re US census search (Bob Boone) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 12:07:50 +0000 From: Theresa Green <t.green@britglass.co.uk> Subject: [SOG-UK] query re US census search To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <539E4B1DFA57C84D98F67C65DD406DC1CF4004@BGSERVER.glass.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi - can anyone tell me the best place to search by address on the NY census, 1905 and 1915 please? I am looking for an ancestor, Christina Davis, who arrived in NY on 2 September 1905. She gave her sister's (Mary Davis) address as 255 West 10th Street, NY. Having googled the address, I can see it's in the district of Manhattan but I cannot work out where or how to search. I don't think its possible via "familysearch" and certainly not via "findmypast" (even with their "world" subscription). I've not yet tried Ancestry as I don't have a subscription - can't afford to subscribe to everything (so I tend to use it at the central library). Any suggestions gratefully received. Kind thanks for your time. Theresa This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. Registered office is at the above address. Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. All payments are due within 30 days of the date of invoice. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. -----Original Message----- From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sog-uk-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 05 March 2014 08:01 To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s (Judy Lester) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:57:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> Cc: "don.montague@virgin.net" <don.montague@virgin.net> Message-ID: <1393178220.49509.YahooMailNeo@web87405.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Don, Civil registration records for Tours are online. ? http://cg37.oxyd.net/ ? First, access the 10-year indexes by selecting ?Collection des tables d?cennales de l??tat civil numeris?es?. Select the appropriate decade, and click the icon ?Acc?s au Document Num?ris?? -- D?c?s (Deaths). The images are browsable, but not searchable. ? If you find an entry of interest, note the day and month. To access the entry in the death register, return to the above link, then select ?Collection des registres d??tat civil num?ris?s?, and drill down through the registers to find the relevant date. ? The process is cumbersome but can be worthwhile, as French civil registration often provides a great deal more information than English. ? HTH ? Judy London, UK ________________________________ From: Don Montague <don.montague@virgin.net> To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2014, 16:39 Subject: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s Can anyone point me in the right direction, i.e. suggest where I might start looking for the records of the death of a kinsman, said to have taken place in Tours in the 1850s? Would it be worthwhile writing to the Mairie at Tours - or are there too many clustered round that city!?? ------------------------------ To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to SOG-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SOG-UK mailing list, send an email to SOG-UK@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 ************************************* ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 14:01:42 +0000 From: David Beakhust <dave@beakhust.com> Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] query re US census search To: <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <144928cbd88.275f.c15f88aa9120067735b227824c49590f@beakhust.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The NY state census IS on ancestry, so if you can use a free library access, this may help you, but I cannot see a way to search by address. You may be able to narrow the district,but the name,though not rare, is no "smith"! Perhaps I am not looking hard enough for an address search. If her arrival was in September 1905 this was after the state census date. This was in June, I believe. As this was a time of massive migration, it may prove hard to find her in one place for 5, let alone ten years. Consider the federal census of 1910 as well as the state census. Her age will be telling here. If very young, she may stay with the family for five years, so finding her may depend on finding others (there are half a dozen with the name in the 1915 census, not all in Manhattan.) A branch of my family went to the states in the late 1890s and did not stay put, even though one worked for a person of significant wealth for some years. Indeed two brothers one way and another crossed the pond several times in a few years sometimes clearly with their respective employers. If you are tracing the person backwards,do you have a naturalisation record? If you do, this should say the first date they arrived. Should! If earlier than the Ellis island record, there may be another earlier one, and possibly another census (but probably not 1905). Also the Ellis island record may have a number written over the persons record at a later date. This may link with later naturalisation (presumably people smuggling themselves in would have a hard time then, as they do now!) Good hunting. On 5 March 2014 12:10:30 Theresa Green <t.green@britglass.co.uk> wrote: > Hi - can anyone tell me the best place to search by address on the NY census, 1905 and 1915 please? > > I am looking for an ancestor, Christina Davis, who arrived in NY on 2 September 1905. She gave her sister's (Mary Davis) address as 255 West 10th Street, NY. Having googled the address, I can see it's in the district of Manhattan but I cannot work out where or how to search. I don't think its possible via "familysearch" and certainly not via "findmypast" (even with their "world" subscription). I've not yet tried Ancestry as I don't have a subscription - can't afford to subscribe to everything (so I tend to use it at the central library). > Any suggestions gratefully received. > > Kind thanks for your time. > > Theresa > > > > > This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. > Registered office is at the above address. > > > > Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. All payments are due within 30 days of the date of invoice. > > This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. > > Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of sog-uk-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: 05 March 2014 08:01 > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > Subject: SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s (Judy Lester) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:57:00 +0000 (GMT) > From: Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s > To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> > Cc: "don.montague@virgin.net" <don.montague@virgin.net> > Message-ID: > <1393178220.49509.YahooMailNeo@web87405.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Don, > > Civil registration records for Tours are online. > ? > http://cg37.oxyd.net/ > ? > First, access the 10-year indexes by selecting ?Collection des tables d?cennales de l??tat civil numeris?es?. Select the appropriate decade, and click the icon ?Acc?s au Document Num?ris?? -- D?c?s (Deaths). The images are browsable, but not searchable. > ? > If you find an entry of interest, note the day and month. To access the entry in the death register, return to the above link, then select ?Collection des registres d??tat civil num?ris?s?, and drill down through the registers to find the relevant date. > ? > The process is cumbersome but can be worthwhile, as French civil registration often provides a great deal more information than English. > ? > HTH > ? > Judy > London, UK > > > ________________________________ > From: Don Montague <don.montague@virgin.net> > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2014, 16:39 > Subject: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s > > > Can anyone point me in the right direction, i.e. suggest where I might > start looking for the records of the death of a kinsman, said to have > taken place in Tours in the 1850s? > Would it be worthwhile writing to the Mairie at Tours - or are there > too many clustered round that city!?? > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to > SOG-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SOG-UK mailing list, send an email to SOG-UK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 > ************************************* > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 17:07:13 +0000 From: Bob Boone <Bob.Boone@whro.org> Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] query re US census search To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <5E1230E230389448AC7FD623BB8DE18513543599@Exchange.whro.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Never used state census . . . Ancestry has federal census thru 1940, if you know where she might have been at different times (10-year basis). Knowing age would help a lot, as would knowing where she came from -- England, Scotland, etc, as there are all identified in the census and can be specified in the Ancestry query. Being on the left-side of the pond, I have Ancestry that covers US and UK. Yahoo Maps is great for tracing addresses in the states -- your address shows up on the west-side, about Greenwich Village, north of the World Trade Center location but south of the meatpacking district. > > > > bob -----Original Message----- From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Theresa Green Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:08 AM To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOG-UK] query re US census search Hi - can anyone tell me the best place to search by address on the NY census, 1905 and 1915 please? I am looking for an ancestor, Christina Davis, who arrived in NY on 2 September 1905. She gave her sister's (Mary Davis) address as 255 West 10th Street, NY. Having googled the address, I can see it's in the district of Manhattan but I cannot work out where or how to search. I don't think its possible via "familysearch" and certainly not via "findmypast" (even with their "world" subscription). I've not yet tried Ancestry as I don't have a subscription - can't afford to subscribe to everything (so I tend to use it at the central library). Any suggestions gratefully received. Kind thanks for your time. Theresa This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. Registered office is at the above address. Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. All payments are due within 30 days of the date of invoice. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. -----Original Message----- From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sog-uk-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 05 March 2014 08:01 To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s (Judy Lester) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:57:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> Cc: "don.montague@virgin.net" <don.montague@virgin.net> Message-ID: <1393178220.49509.YahooMailNeo@web87405.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Don, Civil registration records for Tours are online. ? http://cg37.oxyd.net/ ? First, access the 10-year indexes by selecting ?Collection des tables d?cennales de l??tat civil numeris?es?. Select the appropriate decade, and click the icon ?Acc?s au Document Num?ris?? -- D?c?s (Deaths). The images are browsable, but not searchable. ? If you find an entry of interest, note the day and month. To access the entry in the death register, return to the above link, then select ?Collection des registres d??tat civil num?ris?s?, and drill down through the registers to find the relevant date. ? The process is cumbersome but can be worthwhile, as French civil registration often provides a great deal more information than English. ? HTH ? Judy London, UK ________________________________ From: Don Montague <don.montague@virgin.net> To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2014, 16:39 Subject: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s Can anyone point me in the right direction, i.e. suggest where I might start looking for the records of the death of a kinsman, said to have taken place in Tours in the 1850s? Would it be worthwhile writing to the Mairie at Tours - or are there too many clustered round that city!?? ------------------------------ To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to SOG-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Just been looking at the very useful Steve Morse site (that I was previously unaware of), and ran into the following, that relates to the fact that this site prepares a search and then fills in the fields on a third party site or sites (such as ancestry). Sometimes results pages will be from ancestry.COM, and you click on links there to view results (the success of which depends on whether you have an account or not). I have an account with ancestry.co.uk, and ancestry.com does not recognise my username and password. However, on several searches I have found that simply editing the URL of the results summary page from .com to .co.uk, leaving the rest of the line intact, then reloading, often yields results, but intriguingly not always the same ones, often more, as they include uk sources. Clearly ancestry's databases are uniform across different regions, but permissions (including which sources are included) are tied to your membership. On 6 March 2014 13:29:59 Theresa Green <t.green@britglass.co.uk> wrote: > Hi everyone and many kind thanks to the people that replied to my query re the NY census. > > A member very kindly sent me the web link for the Steve Morse site: http://stevemorse.org/ - which is a fantastic resource....... yet I still can't find the correct address details - and looking at this site its obvious that I should!! (I'm obviously doing something wrong but can't work out what). Christina was born in Limerick in 1886 and was headed for her sister Mary at 255 West 10th St, NY. From the site above, I can find a West St - and a 10th Av - but these are not the same address (I saw the census pages and couldn't match up the house number, 255). Christina arrived in NY on the SS Baltic on 2 September 1904, so maybe on the 1905 census. > > I will check out other suggestions but if anyone can help with this, you'd make an old lady very happy! (I'm doing this on behalf of a distant cousin, an old Irish lady who is almost 80 and has wondered all her life what happened to her aunt, Christina). > > Thank you everyone, you're a brilliant crowd! > > Theresa > > > > > > > > > This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. > Registered office is at the above address. > > > > Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. All payments are due within 30 days of the date of invoice. > > This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. > > Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sog-uk-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: 06 March 2014 08:01 > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > Subject: SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 24 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. query re US census search (Theresa Green) > 2. Re: query re US census search (David Beakhust) > 3. Re: query re US census search (Bob Boone) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 12:07:50 +0000 > From: Theresa Green <t.green@britglass.co.uk> > Subject: [SOG-UK] query re US census search > To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <539E4B1DFA57C84D98F67C65DD406DC1CF4004@BGSERVER.glass.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi - can anyone tell me the best place to search by address on the NY census, 1905 and 1915 please? > > I am looking for an ancestor, Christina Davis, who arrived in NY on 2 September 1905. She gave her sister's (Mary Davis) address as 255 West 10th Street, NY. Having googled the address, I can see it's in the district of Manhattan but I cannot work out where or how to search. I don't think its possible via "familysearch" and certainly not via "findmypast" (even with their "world" subscription). I've not yet tried Ancestry as I don't have a subscription - can't afford to subscribe to everything (so I tend to use it at the central library). > Any suggestions gratefully received. > > Kind thanks for your time. > > Theresa > > > > > This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. > Registered office is at the above address. > > > > Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. All payments are due within 30 days of the date of invoice. > > This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. > > Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sog-uk-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: 05 March 2014 08:01 > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > Subject: SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s (Judy Lester) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:57:00 +0000 (GMT) > From: Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s > To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> > Cc: "don.montague@virgin.net" <don.montague@virgin.net> > Message-ID: > <1393178220.49509.YahooMailNeo@web87405.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Don, > > Civil registration records for Tours are online. > ? > http://cg37.oxyd.net/ > ? > First, access the 10-year indexes by selecting ?Collection des tables d?cennales de l??tat civil numeris?es?. Select the appropriate decade, and click the icon ?Acc?s au Document Num?ris?? -- D?c?s (Deaths). The images are browsable, but not searchable. > ? > If you find an entry of interest, note the day and month. To access the entry in the death register, return to the above link, then select ?Collection des registres d??tat civil num?ris?s?, and drill down through the registers to find the relevant date. > ? > The process is cumbersome but can be worthwhile, as French civil registration often provides a great deal more information than English. > ? > HTH > ? > Judy > London, UK > > > ________________________________ > From: Don Montague <don.montague@virgin.net> > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2014, 16:39 > Subject: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s > > > Can anyone point me in the right direction, i.e. suggest where I might start looking for the records of the death of a kinsman, said to have taken place in Tours in the 1850s? > Would it be worthwhile writing to the Mairie at Tours - or are there too many clustered round that city!?? > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to SOG-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SOG-UK mailing list, send an email to SOG-UK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 > ************************************* > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 14:01:42 +0000 > From: David Beakhust <dave@beakhust.com> > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] query re US census search > To: <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <144928cbd88.275f.c15f88aa9120067735b227824c49590f@beakhust.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > The NY state census IS on ancestry, so if you can use a free library access, this may help you, but I cannot see a way to search by address. You may be able to narrow the district,but the name,though not rare, is no "smith"! Perhaps I am not looking hard enough for an address search. If her arrival was in September 1905 this was after the state census date. This was in June, I believe. As this was a time of massive migration, it may prove hard to find her in one place for 5, let alone ten years. Consider the federal census of 1910 as well as the state census. > Her age will be telling here. If very young, she may stay with the family for five years, so finding her may depend on finding others (there are half a dozen with the name in the 1915 census, not all in Manhattan.) A branch of my family went to the states in the late 1890s and did not stay put, even though one worked for a person of significant wealth for some years. Indeed two brothers one way and another crossed the pond several times in a few years sometimes clearly with their respective employers. > If you are tracing the person backwards,do you have a naturalisation record? If you do, this should say the first date they arrived. Should! If earlier than the Ellis island record, there may be another earlier one, and possibly another census (but probably not 1905). Also the Ellis island record may have a number written over the persons record at a later date. This may link with later naturalisation (presumably people smuggling themselves in would have a hard time then, as they do now!) > > Good hunting. > > > > On 5 March 2014 12:10:30 Theresa Green <t.green@britglass.co.uk> wrote: > > > Hi - can anyone tell me the best place to search by address on the NY census, 1905 and 1915 please? > > > > I am looking for an ancestor, Christina Davis, who arrived in NY on 2 September 1905. She gave her sister's (Mary Davis) address as 255 West 10th Street, NY. Having googled the address, I can see it's in the district of Manhattan but I cannot work out where or how to search. I don't think its possible via "familysearch" and certainly not via "findmypast" (even with their "world" subscription). I've not yet tried Ancestry as I don't have a subscription - can't afford to subscribe to everything (so I tend to use it at the central library). > > Any suggestions gratefully received. > > > > Kind thanks for your time. > > > > Theresa > > > > > > > > > > This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. > > Registered office is at the above address. > > > > > > > > Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. 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Re: Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s (Judy Lester) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:57:00 +0000 (GMT) > > From: Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> > > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s > > To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> > > Cc: "don.montague@virgin.net" <don.montague@virgin.net> > > Message-ID: > > <1393178220.49509.YahooMailNeo@web87405.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Don, > > > > Civil registration records for Tours are online. > > ? > > http://cg37.oxyd.net/ > > ? > > First, access the 10-year indexes by selecting ?Collection des tables d?cennales de l??tat civil numeris?es?. Select the appropriate decade, and click the icon ?Acc?s au Document Num?ris?? -- D?c?s (Deaths). The images are browsable, but not searchable. > > > ? > > If you find an entry of interest, note the day and month. To access the entry in the death register, return to the above link, then select ?Collection des registres d??tat civil num?ris?s?, and drill down through the registers to find the relevant date. > > > ? > > The process is cumbersome but can be worthwhile, as French civil registration often provides a great deal more information than English. > > ? > > HTH > > ? > > Judy > > London, UK > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Don Montague <don.montague@virgin.net> > > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2014, 16:39 > > Subject: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s > > > > > > Can anyone point me in the right direction, i.e. suggest where I might > > start looking for the records of the death of a kinsman, said to have > > taken place in Tours in the 1850s? > > Would it be worthwhile writing to the Mairie at Tours - or are there > > too many clustered round that city!?? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to > > SOG-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > To post a message to the SOG-UK mailing list, send an email to SOG-UK@rootsweb.com. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 > > ************************************* > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 17:07:13 +0000 > From: Bob Boone <Bob.Boone@whro.org> > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] query re US census search > To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <5E1230E230389448AC7FD623BB8DE18513543599@Exchange.whro.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Never used state census . . . Ancestry has federal census thru 1940, if you know where she might have been at different times (10-year basis). Knowing age would help a lot, as would knowing where she came from -- England, Scotland, etc, as there are all identified in the census and can be specified in the Ancestry query. Being on the left-side of the pond, I have Ancestry that covers US and UK. > > Yahoo Maps is great for tracing addresses in the states -- your address shows up on the west-side, about Greenwich Village, north of the World Trade Center location but south of the meatpacking district. > > > > > > bob > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Theresa Green > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:08 AM > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SOG-UK] query re US census search > > Hi - can anyone tell me the best place to search by address on the NY census, 1905 and 1915 please? > > I am looking for an ancestor, Christina Davis, who arrived in NY on 2 September 1905. She gave her sister's (Mary Davis) address as 255 West 10th Street, NY. Having googled the address, I can see it's in the district of Manhattan but I cannot work out where or how to search. I don't think its possible via "familysearch" and certainly not via "findmypast" (even with their "world" subscription). I've not yet tried Ancestry as I don't have a subscription - can't afford to subscribe to everything (so I tend to use it at the central library). > Any suggestions gratefully received. > > Kind thanks for your time. > > Theresa > > > > > This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. > Registered office is at the above address. > > > > Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. All payments are due within 30 days of the date of invoice. > > This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. 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Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sog-uk-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: 05 March 2014 08:01 > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > Subject: SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s (Judy Lester) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:57:00 +0000 (GMT) > From: Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s > To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> > Cc: "don.montague@virgin.net" <don.montague@virgin.net> > Message-ID: > <1393178220.49509.YahooMailNeo@web87405.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Don, > > Civil registration records for Tours are online. > ? > http://cg37.oxyd.net/ > ? > First, access the 10-year indexes by selecting ?Collection des tables d?cennales de l??tat civil numeris?es?. Select the appropriate decade, and click the icon ?Acc?s au Document Num?ris?? -- D?c?s (Deaths). The images are browsable, but not searchable. > ? > If you find an entry of interest, note the day and month. To access the entry in the death register, return to the above link, then select ?Collection des registres d??tat civil num?ris?s?, and drill down through the registers to find the relevant date. > ? > The process is cumbersome but can be worthwhile, as French civil registration often provides a great deal more information than English. > ? > HTH > ? > Judy > London, UK > > > ________________________________ > From: Don Montague <don.montague@virgin.net> > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2014, 16:39 > Subject: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s > > > Can anyone point me in the right direction, i.e. suggest where I might start looking for the records of the death of a kinsman, said to have taken place in Tours in the 1850s? > Would it be worthwhile writing to the Mairie at Tours - or are there too many clustered round that city!?? > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to SOG-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SOG-UK mailing list, send an email to SOG-UK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 > ************************************* > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to SOG-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SOG-UK mailing list, send an email to SOG-UK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 24 > ************************************* > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> Just been looking at the very useful Steve Morse site (that I was > previously unaware of), and ran into the following, that relates to > the fact that this site prepares a search and then fills in the fields > on a third party site or sites (such as ancestry). Sometimes results > pages will be from ancestry.COM, and you click on links there to view > results (the success of which depends on whether you have an account > or not). I have an account with ancestry.co.uk, and ancestry.com does > not recognise my username and password. However, on several searches I > have found that simply editing the URL of the results summary page > from .com to .co.uk, leaving the rest of the line intact, then > reloading, often yields results, but intriguingly not always the same > ones, often more, as they include uk sources. Clearly ancestry's > databases are uniform across different regions, but permissions > (including which sources are included) are tied to your membership. It shouldn't make any difference which Ancestry site you bought your subscription through - I've never had a problem logging in at the overseas sites using my UK subscription, and you should be able to see the same records at both sites. The one time you may have a problem is if the records are free at one site but not at another - this generally only happens when there's a short-term promotion. Peter