Dear All First reports relating to the Titanic sinking mentioned that the ship has experienced a slight accident and all the passengers where safe. The full horror was only exposed after Carpathia arrived in New York After the 1st july the newspaper reported a "fine days hun bashing had by all" only when the long list if casualties where published did the public come to realize what had happened. My point is that you should read round an event and don't rely on any one account. Julian Duffus Sog member 1978-present Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on O2