Hi, If you've not already done so, would suggest joining the Herts and/or Beds Lists for possible more local knowledge regarding local newspapers and also maybe private family papers of the Earl of Verulam. We have two ancestors who worked as gardener and a gamekeeper to Lord Spensers relatives whose letters or lives have been printed in which they were mentioned, the gardener having died at Wimbledon whose gravestone was erected by them mentioning that he had been a faithful employee. These type of references also give you a good idea of the types of lives they lived as their 'horse trainer' etc. would have travelled with their employer to race meetings and their other estates. From Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. E-Mail: [email protected] GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Horse trainers - mid-19th century - sources > > > > Richard > > If you don't mind taking a look at your collection then I'd bite your hand > off. > > His name was Thomas Coleman and he died in the Barnet registration > district in the Oct-Dec quarter, 1877. (I have ordered his death > certificate but this is as precise as I can get currently). He was 81 and > had trained horses around St Albans for both the Brockett family and the > Earl of Verulam in the 1825-40 period. Bankruptcy then followed him around > over the next 20 years or so. His claim to fame is that he organised and > was the steward for the first ever steeplechase held in England. > > Thanks again > > Jon > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard <[email protected]> > To: SOG-UK <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:29 > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Horse trainers - mid-19th century - sources > > > Hi Jon, > He might appear in "Bells Life in London and Sporting Chronicle" I may > have > the bound copy of 1877 (or at least part of it) somewhere in store (I > think > I have about c.8000 pages of this paper amongst my thousands of > newspapers) - I bought a number of volumes last year (in variable > condition) > > Best Regards > Richard Heaton > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 5:34 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [SOG-UK] Horse trainers - mid-19th century - sources > >> Good evening >> >> I am researching the life of a horse trainer who worked in the Herts/Beds >> area between 1820 and abt 1860. He achieved notoriety for various reasons >> in the 1830/1850 period. >> >> I am trying to find obituaries for him - he died in 1877 in north London. >> So, I am looking for advice on which sporting (in general) or specific >> turf-related newspapers/journals were published in the 1870s. To date I >> have come across 'Baily's Magazine of Sports and Pastimes' which has >> potential and have added this to my list to look at next time I visit the >> British Library. >> >> Thanks in advance for any help. >> >> Jon >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email >