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<<snipped>> This may require one to have a worldwide subscription. Data on a .com site is not usually fully viewable if you only have a .co.uk sub, or its local equivalent. <<snipped>> It's not the site that matters, it's the Collection-Country. I actually started with a subs to the American Collections but accessed it via the co.uk site. If you try to access UK data via the .com site, and you have a UK Collections subs, it should be perfectly possible. However, you do have to log on to the .com site first. I would be fairly confident that the .com and the .co.uk sites, along with their databases, are separate but should be mirrored as far as software and data goes. I would not, however, want to put too much money on results always being identical on both sites as new data might not have been mirrored across yet, and all your personal defaults will be different, I'm sure, on each site. If I ever log onto the .com site, I tend to log off afterwards as it once seemed to get into a knot that I suspect was due to it being unable to cope with me being logged in on both sites at once. It always worked before and it seems to work now but something went awry that time. There is, after all, very little reason to be simultaneously logged onto the .co.uk, .com, .au and .ca sites! (Same site in two different browsers, yes!) Adrian

This may require one to have a worldwide subscription. Data on a .com site is not usually fully viewable if you only have a .co.uk sub, or its local equivalent. JK On 7 March 2014 16:09, LostCousins <info@lostcousins.com> wrote: > > Just been looking at the very useful Steve Morse site (that I was > > previously unaware of), and ran into the following, that relates to > > the fact that this site prepares a search and then fills in the fields > > on a third party site or sites (such as ancestry). Sometimes results > > pages will be from ancestry.COM, and you click on links there to view > > results (the success of which depends on whether you have an account > > or not). I have an account with ancestry.co.uk, and ancestry.com does > > not recognise my username and password. However, on several searches I > > have found that simply editing the URL of the results summary page > > from .com to .co.uk, leaving the rest of the line intact, then > > reloading, often yields results, but intriguingly not always the same > > ones, often more, as they include uk sources. Clearly ancestry's > > databases are uniform across different regions, but permissions > > (including which sources are included) are tied to your membership. > > It shouldn't make any difference which Ancestry site you bought your > subscription through - I've > never had a problem logging in at the overseas sites using my UK > subscription, and you should > be able to see the same records at both sites. > > The one time you may have a problem is if the records are free at one site > but not at another - > this generally only happens when there's a short-term promotion. > > Peter > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

> Just been looking at the very useful Steve Morse site (that I was > previously unaware of), and ran into the following, that relates to > the fact that this site prepares a search and then fills in the fields > on a third party site or sites (such as ancestry). Sometimes results > pages will be from ancestry.COM, and you click on links there to view > results (the success of which depends on whether you have an account > or not). I have an account with ancestry.co.uk, and ancestry.com does > not recognise my username and password. However, on several searches I > have found that simply editing the URL of the results summary page > from .com to .co.uk, leaving the rest of the line intact, then > reloading, often yields results, but intriguingly not always the same > ones, often more, as they include uk sources. Clearly ancestry's > databases are uniform across different regions, but permissions > (including which sources are included) are tied to your membership. It shouldn't make any difference which Ancestry site you bought your subscription through - I've never had a problem logging in at the overseas sites using my UK subscription, and you should be able to see the same records at both sites. The one time you may have a problem is if the records are free at one site but not at another - this generally only happens when there's a short-term promotion. Peter

Theresa, You may be confusing the street name in your search. On Manhattan Island, New York City, a "street" name (in this case 10th St.) is numbered starting at the south end of the island and "streets" run east-west. An "avenue" is also numbered (such as 7th Ave,) starting at the east side of the island and avenues run north-south. An arbitrary center point usually further separates the address numbering system east and west of that point, or north and south of that point, and house numbers ascend from that center point. So, 10th Street runs east-west, and "West 10th Street" would be the western part of 10th St. from the center division point, and there would also be a "East 10th Street." Also, quite likely there would be addresses of both a 255 W. 10th St., and a 255 E. 10th St. This is an over-simplification of Manhattan streets as there are other street names scattered about on this basic grid of numbered streets and avenues. It seems likely that your Christina Davis either did not remain in New York City or she married and therefore has a different last name in subsequent censuses, making it extremely difficult to find her. What sometimes works for me, is: in a census search, just enter the given name, (surname left blank) an approximate age, and birthplace of Ireland, and location as New York (state), and troll through the hits to see if anything looks likely. Ruth USA Message: 1 Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 08:55:28 +0000 From: Theresa Green <t.green@britglass.co.uk> Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 24 To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <539E4B1DFA57C84D98F67C65DD406DC1CF43E7@BGSERVER.glass.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi everyone and many kind thanks to the people that replied to my query re the NY census. A member very kindly sent me the web link for the Steve Morse site: http://stevemorse.org/ - which is a fantastic resource....... yet I still can't find the correct address details - and looking at this site its obvious that I should!! (I'm obviously doing something wrong but can't work out what). Christina was born in Limerick in 1886 and was headed for her sister Mary at 255 West 10th St, NY. From the site above, I can find a West St - and a 10th Av - but these are not the same address (I saw the census pages and couldn't match up the house number, 255). Christina arrived in NY on the SS Baltic on 2 September 1904, so maybe on the 1905 census. I will check out other suggestions but if anyone can help with this, you'd make an old lady very happy! (I'm doing this on behalf of a distant cousin, an old Irish lady who is almost 80 and has wondered all her life what happened to her aunt, Christina). Thank you everyone, you're a brilliant crowd! Theresa <snip>

Just been looking at the very useful Steve Morse site (that I was previously unaware of), and ran into the following, that relates to the fact that this site prepares a search and then fills in the fields on a third party site or sites (such as ancestry). Sometimes results pages will be from ancestry.COM, and you click on links there to view results (the success of which depends on whether you have an account or not). I have an account with ancestry.co.uk, and ancestry.com does not recognise my username and password. However, on several searches I have found that simply editing the URL of the results summary page from .com to .co.uk, leaving the rest of the line intact, then reloading, often yields results, but intriguingly not always the same ones, often more, as they include uk sources. Clearly ancestry's databases are uniform across different regions, but permissions (including which sources are included) are tied to your membership. On 6 March 2014 13:29:59 Theresa Green <t.green@britglass.co.uk> wrote: > Hi everyone and many kind thanks to the people that replied to my query re the NY census. > > A member very kindly sent me the web link for the Steve Morse site: http://stevemorse.org/ - which is a fantastic resource....... yet I still can't find the correct address details - and looking at this site its obvious that I should!! (I'm obviously doing something wrong but can't work out what). Christina was born in Limerick in 1886 and was headed for her sister Mary at 255 West 10th St, NY. From the site above, I can find a West St - and a 10th Av - but these are not the same address (I saw the census pages and couldn't match up the house number, 255). Christina arrived in NY on the SS Baltic on 2 September 1904, so maybe on the 1905 census. > > I will check out other suggestions but if anyone can help with this, you'd make an old lady very happy! (I'm doing this on behalf of a distant cousin, an old Irish lady who is almost 80 and has wondered all her life what happened to her aunt, Christina). > > Thank you everyone, you're a brilliant crowd! > > Theresa > > > > > > > > > This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. > Registered office is at the above address. > > > > Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. All payments are due within 30 days of the date of invoice. > > This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. > > Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. 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Re: query re US census search (Bob Boone) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 12:07:50 +0000 > From: Theresa Green <t.green@britglass.co.uk> > Subject: [SOG-UK] query re US census search > To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <539E4B1DFA57C84D98F67C65DD406DC1CF4004@BGSERVER.glass.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi - can anyone tell me the best place to search by address on the NY census, 1905 and 1915 please? > > I am looking for an ancestor, Christina Davis, who arrived in NY on 2 September 1905. She gave her sister's (Mary Davis) address as 255 West 10th Street, NY. Having googled the address, I can see it's in the district of Manhattan but I cannot work out where or how to search. I don't think its possible via "familysearch" and certainly not via "findmypast" (even with their "world" subscription). I've not yet tried Ancestry as I don't have a subscription - can't afford to subscribe to everything (so I tend to use it at the central library). > Any suggestions gratefully received. > > Kind thanks for your time. > > Theresa > > > > > This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. > Registered office is at the above address. > > > > Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. All payments are due within 30 days of the date of invoice. > > This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. > > Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sog-uk-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: 05 March 2014 08:01 > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > Subject: SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s (Judy Lester) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:57:00 +0000 (GMT) > From: Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s > To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> > Cc: "don.montague@virgin.net" <don.montague@virgin.net> > Message-ID: > <1393178220.49509.YahooMailNeo@web87405.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Don, > > Civil registration records for Tours are online. > ? > http://cg37.oxyd.net/ > ? > First, access the 10-year indexes by selecting ?Collection des tables d?cennales de l??tat civil numeris?es?. Select the appropriate decade, and click the icon ?Acc?s au Document Num?ris?? -- D?c?s (Deaths). The images are browsable, but not searchable. > ? > If you find an entry of interest, note the day and month. To access the entry in the death register, return to the above link, then select ?Collection des registres d??tat civil num?ris?s?, and drill down through the registers to find the relevant date. > ? > The process is cumbersome but can be worthwhile, as French civil registration often provides a great deal more information than English. > ? > HTH > ? > Judy > London, UK > > > ________________________________ > From: Don Montague <don.montague@virgin.net> > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2014, 16:39 > Subject: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s > > > Can anyone point me in the right direction, i.e. suggest where I might start looking for the records of the death of a kinsman, said to have taken place in Tours in the 1850s? > Would it be worthwhile writing to the Mairie at Tours - or are there too many clustered round that city!?? > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to SOG-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SOG-UK mailing list, send an email to SOG-UK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 > ************************************* > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 14:01:42 +0000 > From: David Beakhust <dave@beakhust.com> > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] query re US census search > To: <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <144928cbd88.275f.c15f88aa9120067735b227824c49590f@beakhust.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > The NY state census IS on ancestry, so if you can use a free library access, this may help you, but I cannot see a way to search by address. You may be able to narrow the district,but the name,though not rare, is no "smith"! Perhaps I am not looking hard enough for an address search. If her arrival was in September 1905 this was after the state census date. This was in June, I believe. As this was a time of massive migration, it may prove hard to find her in one place for 5, let alone ten years. Consider the federal census of 1910 as well as the state census. > Her age will be telling here. If very young, she may stay with the family for five years, so finding her may depend on finding others (there are half a dozen with the name in the 1915 census, not all in Manhattan.) A branch of my family went to the states in the late 1890s and did not stay put, even though one worked for a person of significant wealth for some years. Indeed two brothers one way and another crossed the pond several times in a few years sometimes clearly with their respective employers. > If you are tracing the person backwards,do you have a naturalisation record? If you do, this should say the first date they arrived. Should! If earlier than the Ellis island record, there may be another earlier one, and possibly another census (but probably not 1905). Also the Ellis island record may have a number written over the persons record at a later date. This may link with later naturalisation (presumably people smuggling themselves in would have a hard time then, as they do now!) > > Good hunting. > > > > On 5 March 2014 12:10:30 Theresa Green <t.green@britglass.co.uk> wrote: > > > Hi - can anyone tell me the best place to search by address on the NY census, 1905 and 1915 please? > > > > I am looking for an ancestor, Christina Davis, who arrived in NY on 2 September 1905. She gave her sister's (Mary Davis) address as 255 West 10th Street, NY. Having googled the address, I can see it's in the district of Manhattan but I cannot work out where or how to search. I don't think its possible via "familysearch" and certainly not via "findmypast" (even with their "world" subscription). I've not yet tried Ancestry as I don't have a subscription - can't afford to subscribe to everything (so I tend to use it at the central library). > > Any suggestions gratefully received. > > > > Kind thanks for your time. > > > > Theresa > > > > > > > > > > This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. > > Registered office is at the above address. > > > > > > > > Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. All payments are due within 30 days of the date of invoice. > > > > This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. > > > > Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of sog-uk-request@rootsweb.com > > Sent: 05 March 2014 08:01 > > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > > Subject: SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s (Judy Lester) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:57:00 +0000 (GMT) > > From: Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> > > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s > > To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> > > Cc: "don.montague@virgin.net" <don.montague@virgin.net> > > Message-ID: > > <1393178220.49509.YahooMailNeo@web87405.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Don, > > > > Civil registration records for Tours are online. > > ? > > http://cg37.oxyd.net/ > > ? > > First, access the 10-year indexes by selecting ?Collection des tables d?cennales de l??tat civil numeris?es?. Select the appropriate decade, and click the icon ?Acc?s au Document Num?ris?? -- D?c?s (Deaths). The images are browsable, but not searchable. > > > ? > > If you find an entry of interest, note the day and month. To access the entry in the death register, return to the above link, then select ?Collection des registres d??tat civil num?ris?s?, and drill down through the registers to find the relevant date. > > > ? > > The process is cumbersome but can be worthwhile, as French civil registration often provides a great deal more information than English. > > ? > > HTH > > ? > > Judy > > London, UK > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Don Montague <don.montague@virgin.net> > > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2014, 16:39 > > Subject: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s > > > > > > Can anyone point me in the right direction, i.e. suggest where I might > > start looking for the records of the death of a kinsman, said to have > > taken place in Tours in the 1850s? > > Would it be worthwhile writing to the Mairie at Tours - or are there > > too many clustered round that city!?? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to > > SOG-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > To post a message to the SOG-UK mailing list, send an email to SOG-UK@rootsweb.com. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 > > ************************************* > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 17:07:13 +0000 > From: Bob Boone <Bob.Boone@whro.org> > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] query re US census search > To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <5E1230E230389448AC7FD623BB8DE18513543599@Exchange.whro.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Never used state census . . . Ancestry has federal census thru 1940, if you know where she might have been at different times (10-year basis). Knowing age would help a lot, as would knowing where she came from -- England, Scotland, etc, as there are all identified in the census and can be specified in the Ancestry query. Being on the left-side of the pond, I have Ancestry that covers US and UK. > > Yahoo Maps is great for tracing addresses in the states -- your address shows up on the west-side, about Greenwich Village, north of the World Trade Center location but south of the meatpacking district. > > > > > > bob > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Theresa Green > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:08 AM > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SOG-UK] query re US census search > > Hi - can anyone tell me the best place to search by address on the NY census, 1905 and 1915 please? > > I am looking for an ancestor, Christina Davis, who arrived in NY on 2 September 1905. She gave her sister's (Mary Davis) address as 255 West 10th Street, NY. Having googled the address, I can see it's in the district of Manhattan but I cannot work out where or how to search. I don't think its possible via "familysearch" and certainly not via "findmypast" (even with their "world" subscription). I've not yet tried Ancestry as I don't have a subscription - can't afford to subscribe to everything (so I tend to use it at the central library). > Any suggestions gratefully received. > > Kind thanks for your time. > > Theresa > > > > > This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. > Registered office is at the above address. > > > > Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. All payments are due within 30 days of the date of invoice. > > This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. 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Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sog-uk-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: 05 March 2014 08:01 > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > Subject: SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s (Judy Lester) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:57:00 +0000 (GMT) > From: Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s > To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> > Cc: "don.montague@virgin.net" <don.montague@virgin.net> > Message-ID: > <1393178220.49509.YahooMailNeo@web87405.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Don, > > Civil registration records for Tours are online. > ? > http://cg37.oxyd.net/ > ? > First, access the 10-year indexes by selecting ?Collection des tables d?cennales de l??tat civil numeris?es?. Select the appropriate decade, and click the icon ?Acc?s au Document Num?ris?? -- D?c?s (Deaths). The images are browsable, but not searchable. > ? > If you find an entry of interest, note the day and month. To access the entry in the death register, return to the above link, then select ?Collection des registres d??tat civil num?ris?s?, and drill down through the registers to find the relevant date. > ? > The process is cumbersome but can be worthwhile, as French civil registration often provides a great deal more information than English. > ? > HTH > ? > Judy > London, UK > > > ________________________________ > From: Don Montague <don.montague@virgin.net> > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2014, 16:39 > Subject: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s > > > Can anyone point me in the right direction, i.e. suggest where I might start looking for the records of the death of a kinsman, said to have taken place in Tours in the 1850s? > Would it be worthwhile writing to the Mairie at Tours - or are there too many clustered round that city!?? > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to SOG-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SOG-UK mailing list, send an email to SOG-UK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 > ************************************* > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to SOG-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SOG-UK mailing list, send an email to SOG-UK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 24 > ************************************* > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yahoo maps, as suggested, or any of the sites that give driving directions to any U.S. address, or google "driving directions, United States" - you can usually zoom in and out on all of them to see a detailed map with every street or a smaller scale map with less detail and only major streets to locate the general area of the address. There are websites where one can see a picture of an address, too (google earth?). Be aware that many cities have re-numbered addresses on their streets since then so it might not be the same spot now, though the same number, and there has been much demolition and rebuilding over the years, so it may not be a residential address now. Sadly, we seem to readily tear down buildings and put up new ones, instead of renovating and/or preserving as Europeans do, so it may not now look anything like it did then. In the US censuses of 1900-1940, the street address number is usually given in a column (headed: house number) to the left of the name of the first head-of- household who is enumerated at that address, and the name of the street is in the extreme narrow left margin, written sideways (tip your head to the left and read street name from bottom to top). Ruth USA Re: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 12:07:50 +0000 From: Theresa Green <t.green@britglass.co.uk> Subject: [SOG-UK] query re US census search To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <539E4B1DFA57C84D98F67C65DD406DC1CF4004@BGSERVER.glass.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi - can anyone tell me the best place to search by address on the NY census, 1905 and 1915 please? I am looking for an ancestor, Christina Davis, who arrived in NY on 2 September 1905. She gave her sister's (Mary Davis) address as 255 West 10th Street, NY. Having googled the address, I can see it's in the district of Manhattan but I cannot work out where or how to search. I don't think its possible via "familysearch" and certainly not via "findmypast" (even with their "world" subscription). I've not yet tried Ancestry as I don't have a subscription - can't afford to subscribe to everything (so I tend to use it at the central library). Any suggestions gratefully received. Kind thanks for your time. Theresa

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In Reply to Theresa Green: A useful set of tools for several sets of us census records are provided by Steve Morse at http://www.stevemorse.org/ Concerning the New York State Census in particular, scroll down his page and you'll see New York Census; open this and click NY Census AD/ED Finder <http://www.stevemorse.org/nyc/nyc.php>: Obtaining AD/ED for the 1890-1925 NY State Census in One Step This will let you look up AD/ED for a given street Note West 10th Street will be found in his system as "10th W" This will give you a selection of relevantAD/ED combinations to check; note them down then you can browse through the images in one of 2 ways: 1) using the link on his website which says Viewing the Images <http://www.stevemorse.org/nyc/viewer.html>: Viewing the Images for the 1905/1915/1925 New York Census in One Step or 2) using the Browse option for the records on the FamilySearch website (Note: Manhattan comes under New York County) The address appears in AD07/ED02 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-159385-78192-94?cc=1463113&wc=14535657 and continues on https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-159385-78129-3?cc=1463113&wc=14535657 There don't appear to be any Davis' here for the census (01JUN1905) but you don't indicate if sister Mary was married or not, so perhaps she is there. Hope this helps. You could also use similar tools on his website for finding suitable districts for the US census in 1910. etc. Walt O'Dowd

Hi everyone and many kind thanks to the people that replied to my query re the NY census. A member very kindly sent me the web link for the Steve Morse site: http://stevemorse.org/ - which is a fantastic resource....... yet I still can't find the correct address details - and looking at this site its obvious that I should!! (I'm obviously doing something wrong but can't work out what). Christina was born in Limerick in 1886 and was headed for her sister Mary at 255 West 10th St, NY. From the site above, I can find a West St - and a 10th Av - but these are not the same address (I saw the census pages and couldn't match up the house number, 255). Christina arrived in NY on the SS Baltic on 2 September 1904, so maybe on the 1905 census. I will check out other suggestions but if anyone can help with this, you'd make an old lady very happy! (I'm doing this on behalf of a distant cousin, an old Irish lady who is almost 80 and has wondered all her life what happened to her aunt, Christina). Thank you everyone, you're a brilliant crowd! Theresa This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. Registered office is at the above address. Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. All payments are due within 30 days of the date of invoice. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. 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Re: query re US census search (Bob Boone) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 12:07:50 +0000 From: Theresa Green <t.green@britglass.co.uk> Subject: [SOG-UK] query re US census search To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <539E4B1DFA57C84D98F67C65DD406DC1CF4004@BGSERVER.glass.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi - can anyone tell me the best place to search by address on the NY census, 1905 and 1915 please? I am looking for an ancestor, Christina Davis, who arrived in NY on 2 September 1905. She gave her sister's (Mary Davis) address as 255 West 10th Street, NY. Having googled the address, I can see it's in the district of Manhattan but I cannot work out where or how to search. I don't think its possible via "familysearch" and certainly not via "findmypast" (even with their "world" subscription). I've not yet tried Ancestry as I don't have a subscription - can't afford to subscribe to everything (so I tend to use it at the central library). Any suggestions gratefully received. Kind thanks for your time. Theresa This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. Registered office is at the above address. Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. All payments are due within 30 days of the date of invoice. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. -----Original Message----- From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sog-uk-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 05 March 2014 08:01 To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s (Judy Lester) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:57:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> Cc: "don.montague@virgin.net" <don.montague@virgin.net> Message-ID: <1393178220.49509.YahooMailNeo@web87405.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Don, Civil registration records for Tours are online. ? http://cg37.oxyd.net/ ? First, access the 10-year indexes by selecting ?Collection des tables d?cennales de l??tat civil numeris?es?. Select the appropriate decade, and click the icon ?Acc?s au Document Num?ris?? -- D?c?s (Deaths). The images are browsable, but not searchable. ? If you find an entry of interest, note the day and month. To access the entry in the death register, return to the above link, then select ?Collection des registres d??tat civil num?ris?s?, and drill down through the registers to find the relevant date. ? The process is cumbersome but can be worthwhile, as French civil registration often provides a great deal more information than English. ? HTH ? Judy London, UK ________________________________ From: Don Montague <don.montague@virgin.net> To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2014, 16:39 Subject: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s Can anyone point me in the right direction, i.e. suggest where I might start looking for the records of the death of a kinsman, said to have taken place in Tours in the 1850s? Would it be worthwhile writing to the Mairie at Tours - or are there too many clustered round that city!?? ------------------------------ To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to SOG-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SOG-UK mailing list, send an email to SOG-UK@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 ************************************* ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 14:01:42 +0000 From: David Beakhust <dave@beakhust.com> Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] query re US census search To: <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <144928cbd88.275f.c15f88aa9120067735b227824c49590f@beakhust.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The NY state census IS on ancestry, so if you can use a free library access, this may help you, but I cannot see a way to search by address. You may be able to narrow the district,but the name,though not rare, is no "smith"! Perhaps I am not looking hard enough for an address search. If her arrival was in September 1905 this was after the state census date. This was in June, I believe. As this was a time of massive migration, it may prove hard to find her in one place for 5, let alone ten years. Consider the federal census of 1910 as well as the state census. Her age will be telling here. If very young, she may stay with the family for five years, so finding her may depend on finding others (there are half a dozen with the name in the 1915 census, not all in Manhattan.) A branch of my family went to the states in the late 1890s and did not stay put, even though one worked for a person of significant wealth for some years. Indeed two brothers one way and another crossed the pond several times in a few years sometimes clearly with their respective employers. If you are tracing the person backwards,do you have a naturalisation record? If you do, this should say the first date they arrived. Should! If earlier than the Ellis island record, there may be another earlier one, and possibly another census (but probably not 1905). Also the Ellis island record may have a number written over the persons record at a later date. This may link with later naturalisation (presumably people smuggling themselves in would have a hard time then, as they do now!) Good hunting. On 5 March 2014 12:10:30 Theresa Green <t.green@britglass.co.uk> wrote: > Hi - can anyone tell me the best place to search by address on the NY census, 1905 and 1915 please? > > I am looking for an ancestor, Christina Davis, who arrived in NY on 2 September 1905. She gave her sister's (Mary Davis) address as 255 West 10th Street, NY. Having googled the address, I can see it's in the district of Manhattan but I cannot work out where or how to search. I don't think its possible via "familysearch" and certainly not via "findmypast" (even with their "world" subscription). I've not yet tried Ancestry as I don't have a subscription - can't afford to subscribe to everything (so I tend to use it at the central library). > Any suggestions gratefully received. > > Kind thanks for your time. > > Theresa > > > > > This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. > Registered office is at the above address. > > > > Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. All payments are due within 30 days of the date of invoice. > > This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. > > Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of sog-uk-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: 05 March 2014 08:01 > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > Subject: SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s (Judy Lester) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:57:00 +0000 (GMT) > From: Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s > To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> > Cc: "don.montague@virgin.net" <don.montague@virgin.net> > Message-ID: > <1393178220.49509.YahooMailNeo@web87405.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Don, > > Civil registration records for Tours are online. > ? > http://cg37.oxyd.net/ > ? > First, access the 10-year indexes by selecting ?Collection des tables d?cennales de l??tat civil numeris?es?. Select the appropriate decade, and click the icon ?Acc?s au Document Num?ris?? -- D?c?s (Deaths). The images are browsable, but not searchable. > ? > If you find an entry of interest, note the day and month. To access the entry in the death register, return to the above link, then select ?Collection des registres d??tat civil num?ris?s?, and drill down through the registers to find the relevant date. > ? > The process is cumbersome but can be worthwhile, as French civil registration often provides a great deal more information than English. > ? > HTH > ? > Judy > London, UK > > > ________________________________ > From: Don Montague <don.montague@virgin.net> > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2014, 16:39 > Subject: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s > > > Can anyone point me in the right direction, i.e. suggest where I might > start looking for the records of the death of a kinsman, said to have > taken place in Tours in the 1850s? > Would it be worthwhile writing to the Mairie at Tours - or are there > too many clustered round that city!?? > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to > SOG-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SOG-UK mailing list, send an email to SOG-UK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 > ************************************* > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 17:07:13 +0000 From: Bob Boone <Bob.Boone@whro.org> Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] query re US census search To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <5E1230E230389448AC7FD623BB8DE18513543599@Exchange.whro.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Never used state census . . . Ancestry has federal census thru 1940, if you know where she might have been at different times (10-year basis). Knowing age would help a lot, as would knowing where she came from -- England, Scotland, etc, as there are all identified in the census and can be specified in the Ancestry query. Being on the left-side of the pond, I have Ancestry that covers US and UK. Yahoo Maps is great for tracing addresses in the states -- your address shows up on the west-side, about Greenwich Village, north of the World Trade Center location but south of the meatpacking district. > > > > bob -----Original Message----- From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Theresa Green Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:08 AM To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOG-UK] query re US census search Hi - can anyone tell me the best place to search by address on the NY census, 1905 and 1915 please? I am looking for an ancestor, Christina Davis, who arrived in NY on 2 September 1905. She gave her sister's (Mary Davis) address as 255 West 10th Street, NY. Having googled the address, I can see it's in the district of Manhattan but I cannot work out where or how to search. I don't think its possible via "familysearch" and certainly not via "findmypast" (even with their "world" subscription). I've not yet tried Ancestry as I don't have a subscription - can't afford to subscribe to everything (so I tend to use it at the central library). Any suggestions gratefully received. Kind thanks for your time. Theresa This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. Registered office is at the above address. Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. All payments are due within 30 days of the date of invoice. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. -----Original Message----- From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sog-uk-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 05 March 2014 08:01 To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s (Judy Lester) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:57:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> Cc: "don.montague@virgin.net" <don.montague@virgin.net> Message-ID: <1393178220.49509.YahooMailNeo@web87405.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Don, Civil registration records for Tours are online. ? http://cg37.oxyd.net/ ? First, access the 10-year indexes by selecting ?Collection des tables d?cennales de l??tat civil numeris?es?. Select the appropriate decade, and click the icon ?Acc?s au Document Num?ris?? -- D?c?s (Deaths). The images are browsable, but not searchable. ? If you find an entry of interest, note the day and month. To access the entry in the death register, return to the above link, then select ?Collection des registres d??tat civil num?ris?s?, and drill down through the registers to find the relevant date. ? The process is cumbersome but can be worthwhile, as French civil registration often provides a great deal more information than English. ? HTH ? Judy London, UK ________________________________ From: Don Montague <don.montague@virgin.net> To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2014, 16:39 Subject: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s Can anyone point me in the right direction, i.e. suggest where I might start looking for the records of the death of a kinsman, said to have taken place in Tours in the 1850s? Would it be worthwhile writing to the Mairie at Tours - or are there too many clustered round that city!?? ------------------------------ To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to SOG-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Theresa, Here's 255 W 10th Street in the 1910 Federal Census: http://www.archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po1006unit#page/n317/mode/1up. It starts the ED, so there may be another section of the address in another ED. Caroline Caroline Gurney [image: Caroline Gurney's Visual Thumbprint]<https://www.vizify.com/es/5025c0a448d185000200004f> On 5 March 2014 18:21, Caroline Gurney <caroline.gurney@blueyonder.co.uk>wrote: CORRECTION: 10th W is listed under both but the correct location is Manhattan and the cross street is Hudson. Caroline Caroline Gurney [image: Caroline Gurney's Visual Thumbprint]<https://www.vizify.com/es/5025c0a448d185000200004f> On 5 March 2014 18:02, Caroline Gurney <caroline.gurney@blueyonder.co.uk>wrote: Theresa, There is only partial coverage of the 1905 New York State Census on Ancestry. It does not include Brooklyn or Manhattan. You can search the 1910 Federal Census by address thanks to the wonderful One Step tools developed by Steve Morse. Use the Unified Census ED Finder at http://www.stevemorse.org/census/unified.html?year=1910. I see the Finder shows 10th Street W under Kings > Brooklyn, not Manhattan. Caroline Caroline Gurney <http://www.carolinegurney.com> On 5 March 2014 12:07, Theresa Green <t.green@britglass.co.uk> wrote: Hi - can anyone tell me the best place to search by address on the NY census, 1905 and 1915 please? I am looking for an ancestor, Christina Davis, who arrived in NY on 2 September 1905. She gave her sister's (Mary Davis) address as 255 West 10th Street, NY. Having googled the address, I can see it's in the district of Manhattan but I cannot work out where or how to search. I don't think its possible via "familysearch" and certainly not via "findmypast" (even with their "world" subscription). I've not yet tried Ancestry as I don't have a subscription - can't afford to subscribe to everything (so I tend to use it at the central library). Any suggestions gratefully received. Kind thanks for your time. Theresa This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. Registered office is at the above address. Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. All payments are due within 30 days of the date of invoice. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. 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Re: Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s (Judy Lester) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:57:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> Cc: "don.montague@virgin.net" <don.montague@virgin.net> Message-ID: <1393178220.49509.YahooMailNeo@web87405.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Don, Civil registration records for Tours are online. ? http://cg37.oxyd.net/ ? First, access the 10-year indexes by selecting ?Collection des tables d?cennales de l??tat civil numeris?es?. Select the appropriate decade, and click the icon ?Acc?s au Document Num?ris?? -- D?c?s (Deaths). The images are browsable, but not searchable. ? If you find an entry of interest, note the day and month. To access the entry in the death register, return to the above link, then select ?Collection des registres d??tat civil num?ris?s?, and drill down through the registers to find the relevant date. ? The process is cumbersome but can be worthwhile, as French civil registration often provides a great deal more information than English. ? HTH ? Judy London, UK ________________________________ From: Don Montague <don.montague@virgin.net> To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2014, 16:39 Subject: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s Can anyone point me in the right direction, i.e. suggest where I might start looking for the records of the death of a kinsman, said to have taken place in Tours in the 1850s? Would it be worthwhile writing to the Mairie at Tours - or are there too many clustered round that city!?? ------------------------------ To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to SOG-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. 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CORRECTION: 10th W is listed under both but the correct location is Manhattan and the cross street is Hudson. Caroline Caroline Gurney [image: Caroline Gurney's Visual Thumbprint]<https://www.vizify.com/es/5025c0a448d185000200004f> On 5 March 2014 18:02, Caroline Gurney <caroline.gurney@blueyonder.co.uk>wrote: Theresa, There is only partial coverage of the 1905 New York State Census on Ancestry. It does not include Brooklyn or Manhattan. You can search the 1910 Federal Census by address thanks to the wonderful One Step tools developed by Steve Morse. Use the Unified Census ED Finder at http://www.stevemorse.org/census/unified.html?year=1910. I see the Finder shows 10th Street W under Kings > Brooklyn, not Manhattan. Caroline Caroline Gurney <http://www.carolinegurney.com> On 5 March 2014 12:07, Theresa Green <t.green@britglass.co.uk> wrote: Hi - can anyone tell me the best place to search by address on the NY census, 1905 and 1915 please? I am looking for an ancestor, Christina Davis, who arrived in NY on 2 September 1905. She gave her sister's (Mary Davis) address as 255 West 10th Street, NY. Having googled the address, I can see it's in the district of Manhattan but I cannot work out where or how to search. I don't think its possible via "familysearch" and certainly not via "findmypast" (even with their "world" subscription). I've not yet tried Ancestry as I don't have a subscription - can't afford to subscribe to everything (so I tend to use it at the central library). Any suggestions gratefully received. Kind thanks for your time. Theresa This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. Registered office is at the above address. Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. All payments are due within 30 days of the date of invoice. 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Re: Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s (Judy Lester) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:57:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> Cc: "don.montague@virgin.net" <don.montague@virgin.net> Message-ID: <1393178220.49509.YahooMailNeo@web87405.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Don, Civil registration records for Tours are online. ? http://cg37.oxyd.net/ ? First, access the 10-year indexes by selecting ?Collection des tables d?cennales de l??tat civil numeris?es?. Select the appropriate decade, and click the icon ?Acc?s au Document Num?ris?? -- D?c?s (Deaths). The images are browsable, but not searchable. ? If you find an entry of interest, note the day and month. To access the entry in the death register, return to the above link, then select ?Collection des registres d??tat civil num?ris?s?, and drill down through the registers to find the relevant date. ? The process is cumbersome but can be worthwhile, as French civil registration often provides a great deal more information than English. ? HTH ? Judy London, UK ________________________________ From: Don Montague <don.montague@virgin.net> To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2014, 16:39 Subject: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s Can anyone point me in the right direction, i.e. suggest where I might start looking for the records of the death of a kinsman, said to have taken place in Tours in the 1850s? Would it be worthwhile writing to the Mairie at Tours - or are there too many clustered round that city!?? ------------------------------ To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to SOG-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Theresa, No sooner had I sent my message, below, than I discovered Steve Morse also does an address finder for the New York State Census: http://www.stevemorse.org/nyc/nyc.php. Happy hunting! Caroline Caroline Gurney [image: Caroline Gurney's Visual Thumbprint]<https://www.vizify.com/es/5025c0a448d185000200004f> On 5 March 2014 18:02, Caroline Gurney <caroline.gurney@blueyonder.co.uk>wrote: Theresa, There is only partial coverage of the 1905 New York State Census on Ancestry. It does not include Brooklyn or Manhattan. You can search the 1910 Federal Census by address thanks to the wonderful One Step tools developed by Steve Morse. Use the Unified Census ED Finder at http://www.stevemorse.org/census/unified.html?year=1910. I see the Finder shows 10th Street W under Kings > Brooklyn, not Manhattan. Caroline Caroline Gurney <http://www.carolinegurney.com> On 5 March 2014 12:07, Theresa Green <t.green@britglass.co.uk> wrote: Hi - can anyone tell me the best place to search by address on the NY census, 1905 and 1915 please? I am looking for an ancestor, Christina Davis, who arrived in NY on 2 September 1905. She gave her sister's (Mary Davis) address as 255 West 10th Street, NY. Having googled the address, I can see it's in the district of Manhattan but I cannot work out where or how to search. I don't think its possible via "familysearch" and certainly not via "findmypast" (even with their "world" subscription). I've not yet tried Ancestry as I don't have a subscription - can't afford to subscribe to everything (so I tend to use it at the central library). Any suggestions gratefully received. Kind thanks for your time. Theresa This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. Registered office is at the above address. 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Re: Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s (Judy Lester) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:57:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> Cc: "don.montague@virgin.net" <don.montague@virgin.net> Message-ID: <1393178220.49509.YahooMailNeo@web87405.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Don, Civil registration records for Tours are online. ? http://cg37.oxyd.net/ ? First, access the 10-year indexes by selecting ?Collection des tables d?cennales de l??tat civil numeris?es?. Select the appropriate decade, and click the icon ?Acc?s au Document Num?ris?? -- D?c?s (Deaths). The images are browsable, but not searchable. ? If you find an entry of interest, note the day and month. To access the entry in the death register, return to the above link, then select ?Collection des registres d??tat civil num?ris?s?, and drill down through the registers to find the relevant date. ? The process is cumbersome but can be worthwhile, as French civil registration often provides a great deal more information than English. ? HTH ? Judy London, UK ________________________________ From: Don Montague <don.montague@virgin.net> To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2014, 16:39 Subject: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s Can anyone point me in the right direction, i.e. suggest where I might start looking for the records of the death of a kinsman, said to have taken place in Tours in the 1850s? Would it be worthwhile writing to the Mairie at Tours - or are there too many clustered round that city!?? ------------------------------ To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to SOG-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Theresa, There is only partial coverage of the 1905 New York State Census on Ancestry. It does not include Brooklyn or Manhattan. You can search the 1910 Federal Census by address thanks to the wonderful One Step tools developed by Steve Morse. Use the Unified Census ED Finder at http://www.stevemorse.org/census/unified.html?year=1910. I see the Finder shows 10th Street W under Kings > Brooklyn, not Manhattan. Caroline Caroline Gurney <http://www.carolinegurney.com> On 5 March 2014 12:07, Theresa Green <t.green@britglass.co.uk> wrote: Hi - can anyone tell me the best place to search by address on the NY census, 1905 and 1915 please? I am looking for an ancestor, Christina Davis, who arrived in NY on 2 September 1905. She gave her sister's (Mary Davis) address as 255 West 10th Street, NY. Having googled the address, I can see it's in the district of Manhattan but I cannot work out where or how to search. I don't think its possible via "familysearch" and certainly not via "findmypast" (even with their "world" subscription). I've not yet tried Ancestry as I don't have a subscription - can't afford to subscribe to everything (so I tend to use it at the central library). Any suggestions gratefully received. Kind thanks for your time. Theresa This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. Registered office is at the above address. Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. All payments are due within 30 days of the date of invoice. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. 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Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. -----Original Message----- From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sog-uk-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 05 March 2014 08:01 To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s (Judy Lester) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:57:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> Cc: "don.montague@virgin.net" <don.montague@virgin.net> Message-ID: <1393178220.49509.YahooMailNeo@web87405.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Don, Civil registration records for Tours are online. ? http://cg37.oxyd.net/ ? First, access the 10-year indexes by selecting ?Collection des tables d?cennales de l??tat civil numeris?es?. Select the appropriate decade, and click the icon ?Acc?s au Document Num?ris?? -- D?c?s (Deaths). The images are browsable, but not searchable. ? If you find an entry of interest, note the day and month. To access the entry in the death register, return to the above link, then select ?Collection des registres d??tat civil num?ris?s?, and drill down through the registers to find the relevant date. ? The process is cumbersome but can be worthwhile, as French civil registration often provides a great deal more information than English. ? HTH ? Judy London, UK ________________________________ From: Don Montague <don.montague@virgin.net> To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2014, 16:39 Subject: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s Can anyone point me in the right direction, i.e. suggest where I might start looking for the records of the death of a kinsman, said to have taken place in Tours in the 1850s? Would it be worthwhile writing to the Mairie at Tours - or are there too many clustered round that city!?? ------------------------------ To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to SOG-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SOG-UK mailing list, send an email to SOG-UK@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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Never used state census . . . Ancestry has federal census thru 1940, if you know where she might have been at different times (10-year basis). Knowing age would help a lot, as would knowing where she came from -- England, Scotland, etc, as there are all identified in the census and can be specified in the Ancestry query. Being on the left-side of the pond, I have Ancestry that covers US and UK. Yahoo Maps is great for tracing addresses in the states -- your address shows up on the west-side, about Greenwich Village, north of the World Trade Center location but south of the meatpacking district. > > > > bob -----Original Message----- From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Theresa Green Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:08 AM To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOG-UK] query re US census search Hi - can anyone tell me the best place to search by address on the NY census, 1905 and 1915 please? I am looking for an ancestor, Christina Davis, who arrived in NY on 2 September 1905. She gave her sister's (Mary Davis) address as 255 West 10th Street, NY. Having googled the address, I can see it's in the district of Manhattan but I cannot work out where or how to search. I don't think its possible via "familysearch" and certainly not via "findmypast" (even with their "world" subscription). I've not yet tried Ancestry as I don't have a subscription - can't afford to subscribe to everything (so I tend to use it at the central library). Any suggestions gratefully received. Kind thanks for your time. Theresa This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. Registered office is at the above address. Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. All payments are due within 30 days of the date of invoice. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. -----Original Message----- From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sog-uk-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 05 March 2014 08:01 To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s (Judy Lester) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:57:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> Cc: "don.montague@virgin.net" <don.montague@virgin.net> Message-ID: <1393178220.49509.YahooMailNeo@web87405.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Don, Civil registration records for Tours are online. ? http://cg37.oxyd.net/ ? First, access the 10-year indexes by selecting ?Collection des tables d?cennales de l??tat civil numeris?es?. Select the appropriate decade, and click the icon ?Acc?s au Document Num?ris?? -- D?c?s (Deaths). The images are browsable, but not searchable. ? If you find an entry of interest, note the day and month. To access the entry in the death register, return to the above link, then select ?Collection des registres d??tat civil num?ris?s?, and drill down through the registers to find the relevant date. ? The process is cumbersome but can be worthwhile, as French civil registration often provides a great deal more information than English. ? HTH ? Judy London, UK ________________________________ From: Don Montague <don.montague@virgin.net> To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2014, 16:39 Subject: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s Can anyone point me in the right direction, i.e. suggest where I might start looking for the records of the death of a kinsman, said to have taken place in Tours in the 1850s? Would it be worthwhile writing to the Mairie at Tours - or are there too many clustered round that city!?? ------------------------------ To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to SOG-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. 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The NY state census IS on ancestry, so if you can use a free library access, this may help you, but I cannot see a way to search by address. You may be able to narrow the district,but the name,though not rare, is no "smith"! Perhaps I am not looking hard enough for an address search. If her arrival was in September 1905 this was after the state census date. This was in June, I believe. As this was a time of massive migration, it may prove hard to find her in one place for 5, let alone ten years. Consider the federal census of 1910 as well as the state census. Her age will be telling here. If very young, she may stay with the family for five years, so finding her may depend on finding others (there are half a dozen with the name in the 1915 census, not all in Manhattan.) A branch of my family went to the states in the late 1890s and did not stay put, even though one worked for a person of significant wealth for some years. Indeed two brothers one way and another crossed the pond several times in a few years sometimes clearly with their respective employers. If you are tracing the person backwards,do you have a naturalisation record? If you do, this should say the first date they arrived. Should! If earlier than the Ellis island record, there may be another earlier one, and possibly another census (but probably not 1905). Also the Ellis island record may have a number written over the persons record at a later date. This may link with later naturalisation (presumably people smuggling themselves in would have a hard time then, as they do now!) Good hunting. On 5 March 2014 12:10:30 Theresa Green <t.green@britglass.co.uk> wrote: > Hi - can anyone tell me the best place to search by address on the NY census, 1905 and 1915 please? > > I am looking for an ancestor, Christina Davis, who arrived in NY on 2 September 1905. She gave her sister's (Mary Davis) address as 255 West 10th Street, NY. Having googled the address, I can see it's in the district of Manhattan but I cannot work out where or how to search. I don't think its possible via "familysearch" and certainly not via "findmypast" (even with their "world" subscription). I've not yet tried Ancestry as I don't have a subscription - can't afford to subscribe to everything (so I tend to use it at the central library). > Any suggestions gratefully received. > > Kind thanks for your time. > > Theresa > > > > > This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. > Registered office is at the above address. > > > > Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. All payments are due within 30 days of the date of invoice. > > This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. 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Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sog-uk-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: 05 March 2014 08:01 > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > Subject: SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s (Judy Lester) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:57:00 +0000 (GMT) > From: Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s > To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> > Cc: "don.montague@virgin.net" <don.montague@virgin.net> > Message-ID: > <1393178220.49509.YahooMailNeo@web87405.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Don, > > Civil registration records for Tours are online. > ? > http://cg37.oxyd.net/ > ? > First, access the 10-year indexes by selecting ?Collection des tables d?cennales de l??tat civil numeris?es?. Select the appropriate decade, and click the icon ?Acc?s au Document Num?ris?? -- D?c?s (Deaths). The images are browsable, but not searchable. > ? > If you find an entry of interest, note the day and month. To access the entry in the death register, return to the above link, then select ?Collection des registres d??tat civil num?ris?s?, and drill down through the registers to find the relevant date. > ? > The process is cumbersome but can be worthwhile, as French civil registration often provides a great deal more information than English. > ? > HTH > ? > Judy > London, UK > > > ________________________________ > From: Don Montague <don.montague@virgin.net> > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2014, 16:39 > Subject: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s > > > Can anyone point me in the right direction, i.e. suggest where I > might start looking for the records of the death of a kinsman, said > to have taken place in Tours in the 1850s? > Would it be worthwhile writing to the Mairie at Tours - or are there > too many clustered round that city!?? > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to > SOG-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SOG-UK mailing list, send an email to SOG-UK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 > ************************************* > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi - can anyone tell me the best place to search by address on the NY census, 1905 and 1915 please? I am looking for an ancestor, Christina Davis, who arrived in NY on 2 September 1905. She gave her sister's (Mary Davis) address as 255 West 10th Street, NY. Having googled the address, I can see it's in the district of Manhattan but I cannot work out where or how to search. I don't think its possible via "familysearch" and certainly not via "findmypast" (even with their "world" subscription). I've not yet tried Ancestry as I don't have a subscription - can't afford to subscribe to everything (so I tend to use it at the central library). Any suggestions gratefully received. Kind thanks for your time. Theresa This company (No. 539065) is registered in England and limited by guarantee. Registered office is at the above address. Please Note: All quoted prices exclude VAT and are valid for 30 days unless otherwise stated. All payments are due within 30 days of the date of invoice. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. -----Original Message----- From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sog-uk-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 05 March 2014 08:01 To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s (Judy Lester) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:57:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s To: "sog-uk@rootsweb.com" <sog-uk@rootsweb.com> Cc: "don.montague@virgin.net" <don.montague@virgin.net> Message-ID: <1393178220.49509.YahooMailNeo@web87405.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Don, Civil registration records for Tours are online. ? http://cg37.oxyd.net/ ? First, access the 10-year indexes by selecting ?Collection des tables d?cennales de l??tat civil numeris?es?. Select the appropriate decade, and click the icon ?Acc?s au Document Num?ris?? -- D?c?s (Deaths). The images are browsable, but not searchable. ? If you find an entry of interest, note the day and month. To access the entry in the death register, return to the above link, then select ?Collection des registres d??tat civil num?ris?s?, and drill down through the registers to find the relevant date. ? The process is cumbersome but can be worthwhile, as French civil registration often provides a great deal more information than English. ? HTH ? Judy London, UK ________________________________ From: Don Montague <don.montague@virgin.net> To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2014, 16:39 Subject: [SOG-UK] Death & Burial in Tours, France, 1850s Can anyone point me in the right direction, i.e. suggest where I might start looking for the records of the death of a kinsman, said to have taken place in Tours in the 1850s? Would it be worthwhile writing to the Mairie at Tours - or are there too many clustered round that city!?? ------------------------------ To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to SOG-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SOG-UK mailing list, send an email to SOG-UK@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of SOG-UK Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 *************************************

Merryl, Thank you for your suggestion, it sounds very plausible - I'll certainly check it out. Richard -----Original Message----- From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Merryl Wells Sent: 20 February 2014 16:42 To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] John Seeley and Captain Sealy Perhaps the Corporation of Newbury contributed to the voyage or provision of the 'Northington' and the bowls were John Sealy's acknowledgement and thanks for their help? From Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. E-Mail: merryl.wells@one-name.org GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Holt" <floating@talktalk.net> To: <SOG-UK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 3:30 PM Subject: [SOG-UK] John Seeley and Captain Sealy > Among other bequests in his will of 1678, John SEELEY, a draper of > Newbury, > Berkshire, left money for the poor of the town. > In 1774, John SEALY, Captain of the East Indiaman Northington, presented > the > Corporation of Newbury with two painted China Bowls. > > Walter Money FSA, in his "History of Newbury" (1887), asserts that Captain > SEALY was a descendant of SEELEY the draper. > The Newbury Corporation Records confirm the Captain's gift, but make no > mention of a relationship between the two men, and so far I've failed to > discover any sons born to SEELEY the draper. No sons appear in the 1678 > will. > If Walter Money's assertion is simply a guess, and the two SEELEY's are > not > related, could anyone please suggest a reason for the Captain's gift to > the > Corporation? > > Richard Holt > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7109 - Release Date: 02/20/14

On 27/02/2014 11:44 AM, John and Karen Stoneley wrote: > Thanks for that Adrian. > > I am sorry that my loose terminology has confused the issue. What I > should perhaps have said is that what I want are copies of the original > entries in the two church registers for comparison. > To clarify the position - a James Ferguson was born in 1852 . According > to his baptismal record this James was the bastard son of James Ferguson > of Arbroath and Isabella White (unmarried) of Weemys. Isabella raises > her son whilst living with her great aunt and eventually marries one > Hally Martin in Weemys in the Church of Scotland and a James Ferguson > (most probably her son but not necessarily so) is a witness. > > My great grandfather, James Ferguson marries in Warrington in 1877. The > marriage took place in St Elphin's church and the church register for > that marriage is held at Cheshire record Office. His signature is > available in that register . > > Quite simply I want to examine the signature made by great grandfather > on the St Elphin's register with the signature of the witness to > Isabella White's marriage in the kirk in Weemys. Nobody can, with any > degree of certainty tell me where that signed piece of paper is. I > believe it to be in New Register House Edinburgh but even the staff do > not seem sure. It would appear that what you wish to see is the Schedule C referred to here: "Registration of regular marriages. XLVI. In all Cases of regular Marriages, when the Certificates of the Proclamation of the Banns are given out, such Certificates shall be accompanied by a Copy of the said Schedule (C.), and upon the Solemnization of the Marriage, such Schedule, having all the Information thereby required inserted therein, shall be produced to the Minister solemnizing the Marriage, or to the Person solemnizing any Marriage according to the Rites and Forms respectively observed by Jews and Quakers, or shall be filled up in the Presence of such Minister or Person, and shall be signed by the Parties contracting the Marriage, and by the Witnesses, Male or Female, present thereat, not being less than Two, and also by the Minister or Person officiating, and be delivered to the Parties contracting the Marriage, who shall within Three Days thereafter either deliver or send by Post such Schedule to the Registrar of the Parish wherein the Marriage was solemnized; and the husband, and failing the Husband the Wife, shall in case of Failure so to deliver or send such Schedule be liable in a Penalty not exceeding Ten Pounds; and upon being received by the Registrar, the Particulars of such Schedule shall be forthwith entered by him in the Duplicate Registers; *and all such Schedules shall be taken by the Registrar with the Duplicate Registers to the Sheriff, and shall be transmitted by the Sheriff with the Duplicate Registers to the Registrar General, for Preservation in the General Registry Office*." This being section 46 of An Act to provide for the better regulation of Births, Deaths, and Marriages in Scotland. [7 August 1854] 17 & 18 Vict. c.80 known as Registration (Scotland) Act, 1854 <http://www.histpop.org/ohpr/servlet/AssociatedView?path=Browse&active=yes&mno=4048&assoctitle=The%20development%20of%20the%20General%20Register%20Office%20%28Scotland%29&assocpagelabel=> which can be seen (with the form) at http://www.histpop.org/ohpr/servlet/View?path=Browse/Legislation%20%28by%20date%29&active=yes&mno=4048 It would appear, therefore, that the signed Copies of Schedules C were eventually to find a home with the Registrar-General (Scotland) and should still be there. Hoeever, these schedules do not appear listed at http://www.scotlandspeoplehub.gov.uk/research/marriages-1856-present.html or http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/files2/family-records/leaflet-s1.pdf I think, in your shoes, I would (if an e-mail enquiry to New Register House proved unfruitful) be writing to the R-G (S) asking for the whereabouts of the Schedules transmitted to him for Preservation. A short history of Scottish registration is here http://www.histpop.org/ohpr/servlet/View?path=Browse/Essays%20%28by%20geography%29/Scotland/General&active=yes&mno=2003 Kind regards John Henley > > I have written to New Register House and also to AGRA members in > Edinburgh to see if they can help. > > If, of course the original record , signed by the participants, has > been lost or destroyed then that is the end of the matter, but if it is > in New Register House somewhere then I should be able to see a copy of it. > > I have been tracing the elusive James Ferguson for 30 years and this > seemed to be a chance of possibly identifying where the man came from > in Scotland. No other certificates I am afraid. > > I will post the result of my avenues of research. > > Regards > > John > > 7/02/2014 10:41, Adrian Bruce wrote: >> <<snipped>> >> I have recently vi

Thank you, John, april On 27 Feb 2014, at 22:41, John Hanson wrote: > April > You could also try the WiKi on family search > https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Main_Page there are many tips about > French research as well as what is available via the LDS church > > You could also try Cyndi's List http://cyndislist.com/ > > Regards > John Hanson > > -----Original Message----- > From: sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sog-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of JUDITH > Sent: 27 February 2014 22:06 > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] France > > Many departments have actual images on line and most are free. Here is a > summary of what's available, in French but easily figured out or translated: > http://fr.geneawiki.com/index.php/Archives_en_ligne > > There are also pay sites www.geneanet.org with many user-submitted family > trees, and genealogie.com. > > > Judith Werner > Salt Lake City, Utah, USA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ashton April" <ahashton@focalplane.com> > To: sog-uk@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 1:26:51 PM > Subject: [SOG-UK] France > > Can anyone tell me whether there are any French records are available on > line - ie French BMD's, ie French WW1 records? > > Thank you, > April Wood Ashton > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOG-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message