In a message dated 19/02/2005 04:32:11 GMT Standard Time, T2quirke@aol.com writes: > When one legally/officially changes one's name is the action termed "by > deed > poll" or what? > Deeds poll were registered in the Close Rolls of Chancery (until 1903) and then in the Enrolment Books of the Supreme Court. This is not the same as a Staturtoty Declaration before a magistrate. Regards, Colin Mills

In a message dated 19/02/2005 09:22:26 GMT Standard Time, tim@powys.org writes: > Additionally, and particularly if you are left large sums on the > condition that you do change your name, you can do it by Royal Licence. > I have no idea what this would cost, but rest assured, it would be a Very > Large Sum. > Not sure whether Royal Licences are required for this reason; seems doubtful to me. The royal licence route is applicable to enemy aliens (provided for by legislation passed in 1916) and armigers (those who have coats of arms), presumably including peers of the realm. I'm not sure whether it also includes members of orders of chivalry, knights and baronets (but they are likely to be armigerous) or those having other honours e.g. medals. Private acts of parliament can also be used, but the last one was passed in 1907 and would likewise cost a Very Large Sum. The other means of changing names are by advertisement in the press (one good reason for indexing newspapers) and by a Statutory Declaraion before a Justice of the Peace or a Commissioner for Oaths. Regards, Colin Mills

In a message dated Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:31:44 EST, _T2quirke@aol.com_ (mailto:T2quirke@aol.com) writes: When one legally/officially changes one's name is the action termed "by deed poll" or what? There is a cheaper way of changing your name officially and that is by Statutory Declaration. To do this you pay to have three or four (I forget which) advertisements in the London Gazette stating that henceforth you wish to be known as <insert name here>. If you keep an original copy of the appearance of the advertisement it is acceptable as evidence should you ever need to provide any of a proof of change of name. DaveD

Sheila, From where is the district missing? Peter Park, Walton on Thames, Surrey, UK. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila Murray" <SheilaMurray@mtcharlesayr.fsnet.co.uk> To: <SOG-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [SoG] 1861 Census > Great - I've found an entry from a district which was posted as missing > elsewhere! > > Sheila Murray > > Jeanne Bunting UK wrote: > > >David, > > > > > > > >>Have just noticed a news release from the 15 Feb on the > >> > >> > ><http://www.1837online.com/> www.1837online.com homepage. > > > >Transcriptions and original census images for the 1861 census are being put > >online now starting with London, Middlesex, Surrey and Kent. < > > > >I wondered how long it would be before someone noticed!! It has been there > >since midnight on Monday!! <g> > > > >Jeanne Bunting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

While in the course of taking an examination, I came across an instance of another option. Noting that a name had been changed, I expected to find that it had been by royal licence; it turned out to have been by act of parliament. I expect that that cost more than a couple of guineas as well. Another possibility is a statutory declaration, though this is more otten used to provide evidence of a change that took place at some earlier time. I remember that about twenty-five years ago a mother and son publicised their change of name amongst the classified advertisements in the Hastings and St Leonards Observer. It was the subject of a news item on the front page as well. I think that this must have been because the son was a solicitor who often represented the borough council at the magistrates' court and was therefore known to reporters. Somewhere on one of my bookshelves is a run of genealogical periodicals from around a century ago relating the saga of a Welsh magistrate who executed a deed declaring that he had changed his surname. The custos rotulorum initially refused to amend the commission of the peace for want of a royal licence authorising the change. He eventually conceded, though. In passing, I wonder why deeds evidencing changes of name are almost always (correctly) described as poll, while other deeds poll manage without the suffix. Jeremy Wilkes

Good news indeed, Sheila, but the district that was missing and is found again is . . ??? Cheers, John Henley. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila Murray" <SheilaMurray@mtcharlesayr.fsnet.co.uk> > Great - I've found an entry from a district which was posted as missing > elsewhere!> > Sheila Murray > > Jeanne Bunting UK wrote: > > >David,> >> > > > > >>Have just noticed a news release from the 15 Feb on the > >> > >>> ><http://www.1837online.com/> www.1837online.com homepage. > > > >Transcriptions and original census images for the 1861 census are being put > >online now starting with London, Middlesex, Surrey and Kent. < > >> >I wondered how long it would be before someone noticed!! It has been there > >since midnight on Monday!! <g>> >> >Jeanne Bunting -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/05

Terence Nowadays it is simply a statutory declaration in a magistrates court. There is of course a fee. In the case of children the court keeps a copy but not for adults. Peter At 04:31 19/02/2005, you wrote: >When one legally/officially changes one's name is the action termed "by deed >poll" or what? > >Thanks > >Terence

Thanks for the many replies clarifying bit of business. Terence

In message of 19 Feb, TLlewellyn@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 19/02/2005 04:32:11 GMT Standard Time, T2quirke@aol.com > writes: > > > When one legally/officially changes one's name is the action > > termed "by deed poll" or what? > > There are a number of ways (in UK) to change your name and by means > of a "Deed Poll" is a convenient one, which leaves you with a legal > document. However, you can change your name by simply doing it - no > legal process is necessary. Organisations such as Tax Offices and > Banks get 'sniffy' about it, though, and a Deed Poll is a convenient > document to use to show what you have done. Additionally, and particularly if you are left large sums on the condition that you do change your name, you can do it by Royal Licence. I have no idea what this would cost but rest assured it would be a Very Large Sum. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org

Hi, A distant relative of mine changed his name from William Lloyd-Jones to William Lloyd-Worth (living in Washfield, Devon) in 1882 by Royal Licence. Cheers, Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: <T2quirke@aol.com> To: <SOG-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:31 PM Subject: [SoG] Change of name When one legally/officially changes one's name is the action termed "by deed poll" or what? Thanks Terence

Signing and registering a deed poll is one way of "changing one's name" - one's surname at least. Doing this helps the bureaucracy to change their records more efficiently, though it is not strictly speaking necessary. Hector

You can call yourself whatever you want, but, with the possibility of ID cards, for how long? A half way house towards changing your name by deed poll is to swear a 'statutory declaration', that you are know as 'xxxxxx' and that you are not trying to defraud anyone (I paraphrase). Cost? £5 at a solicitors near you! I know because I have done it. Having been known as 'Nick' for over 20 years, I was incensed that my bank would not recognise that as being my name and breezily suggested I simply use my (loathed) baptismal name. A statutory declaration solved the problem. It has even got my past passport control, when my ticket said one name and my passport another! Kind regards Nick

In a message dated 19/02/2005 04:32:11 GMT Standard Time, T2quirke@aol.com writes: When one legally/officially changes one's name is the action termed "by deed poll" or what? Thanks Terence There are a number of ways (in UK) to change your name and by means of a "Deed Poll" is a convenient one, which leaves you with a legal document. However, you can change your name by simply doing it - no legal process is necessary. Organisations such as Tax Offices and Banks get 'sniffy' about it, though, and a Deed Poll is a convenient document to use to show what you have done. Regards Dr T@m www.TickhillClinic.com

When one legally/officially changes one's name is the action termed "by deed poll" or what? Thanks Terence

Great - I've found an entry from a district which was posted as missing elsewhere! Sheila Murray Jeanne Bunting UK wrote: >David, > > > >>Have just noticed a news release from the 15 Feb on the >> >> ><http://www.1837online.com/> www.1837online.com homepage. > >Transcriptions and original census images for the 1861 census are being put >online now starting with London, Middlesex, Surrey and Kent. < > >I wondered how long it would be before someone noticed!! It has been there >since midnight on Monday!! <g> > >Jeanne Bunting > > > > > > >

Have just noticed a news release from the 15 Feb on the <http://www.1837online.com/> www.1837online.com homepage. Transcriptions and original census images for the 1861 census are being put online now starting with London, Middlesex, Surrey and Kent. David Tappin d.tappin@ntlworld.com <outbind://8/d.tappin@ntlworld.com> Web page http://homepage.ntlworld.com/d.tappin

David, >Have just noticed a news release from the 15 Feb on the <http://www.1837online.com/> www.1837online.com homepage. Transcriptions and original census images for the 1861 census are being put online now starting with London, Middlesex, Surrey and Kent. < I wondered how long it would be before someone noticed!! It has been there since midnight on Monday!! <g> Jeanne Bunting

Bony growth? Perhaps that is calcification. LOL, Doc Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: <MILLSC64@aol.com> To: <SOG-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:50 AM Subject: Re: [SoG] Fw: Mortification. In a message dated 17/02/2005 10:46:20 GMT Standard Time, john.dhb@btopenworld.com writes: > Alternatively, isn't there an unpleasant medical condition that > results in substantial additional bony growth ? > I think this is acromegaly (caused by excesive activity of pituitary gland). Regards, Colin Mills

In a message dated 17/02/2005 10:46:20 GMT Standard Time, john.dhb@btopenworld.com writes: > Alternatively, isn't there an unpleasant medical condition that > results in substantial additional bony growth ? > I think this is acromegaly (caused by excesive activity of pituitary gland). Regards, Colin Mills

<Nickburton99@aol.com> wrote : > Doh! Sorry John, missed your e-mail, but hey! Great minds think alike! > > Kind regards > > Nick You're forgiven - I've never been called a 'Great mind' before ! John B Leic., Eng "Helpful Advice & urls for London Listers" at http://londongenhelp.blogspot.com/