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    1. Re: [SoG] Coldstream Guards Musician
    2. John Brown
    3. "Terry Silcock" terry.silcock@btinternet.com wrote : >Are details of members of the Coldstream Guards held at TNA, Kew or are >there separate archives of this regiment. I believe the records are held at their HQ and getting information is far from easy. You have to write (snail mail) to : Coldstream Guards Regimental Headquarters Wellington Barracks Birdcage Walk London SW1E 6HQ *BUT* you must provide a regimental number. Details of how to ask, what you have to provide and the costs, are given at the website of one of the district branches of the Coldstream Guards Association at http://www.coldstreamguards-boro.org/page3bhtm.htm They do not accept e-mail or telephone enquiries. > My GGfather: John Carr SCOTTS was recorded as a corporal Cornet player > with > the Coldstreanm Guards band, but was living in residential accommodation > in > Westminster with his family during the 1861 and 1871 census. Would thsi > be > normal practice whilst the band was based in London? Can't say if it was the norm but a distant cousin of my own was a clarinetist in the band ca 1890, and he seems to have lived at the Wellington Barracks prior to his marriage; afterwards he lived with his wife and children in Battersea, so perhaps it was only the unmarried ones who lived in barracks ? John B Leic., Eng

    05/11/2005 07:49:58
    1. Coldstream Guards Musician
    2. Terry Silcock
    3. Are details of members of the Coldstream Guards held at TNA, Kew or are there separate archives of this regiment. My GGfather: John Carr SCOTTS was recorded as a corporal Cornet player with the Coldstreanm Guards band, but was living in residential accommodation in Westminster with his family during the 1861 and 1871 census. Would thsi be normal practice whilst the band was based in London? Terry Silcock

    05/11/2005 06:30:22
    1. Chelsea pensioner; Royal Household members
    2. Terry Silcock
    3. Can anyone advise of any web-sites which would add details of Daniel COLLINS who was a member of the Royal Household staff in the 1871 census and a Chelsea Pensioner in the 1881 census.? This seems a slightly unlikely combination? Terry Silcock

    05/11/2005 06:24:46
    1. Re: [SoG] Coldstream Guards Musician
    2. I wrote to Major R G Woodfield at that address last year for info on a couple of ancestors. Service was very slow as he is hardly there, but, very thorough. He provided all sorts of extra military info that I had requested, nothing to do with my Guardsmen and there was no charge even though a £25 fee is mentioned in most info books. The Regimental No. is necessary. Mike Tebbutt.

    05/11/2005 06:07:34
    1. Re: [SoG] Problem with scanner - can anyone help please?
    2. In a message dated 5/11/05 4:59:22 PM GMT Daylight Time, TebbuA@aol.com writes: Watch which one you buy as some do not scan to E-mail for AOL. This was the mistake we made when purchasing our Epson 1670 Photo for that very purpose. and It's no use asking in PC World, you just get a row of blank faces. Thanks, Mike, I'll bear that in mind. Pauline

    05/11/2005 06:00:22
    1. Re: [SoG] Problem with scanner - can anyone help please?
    2. Watch which one you buy as some do not scan to E-mail for AOL. This was the mistake we made when purchasing our Epson 1670 Photo for that very purpose. and It's no use asking in PC World, you just get a row of blank faces. Mike Tebbutt.

    05/11/2005 05:58:30
    1. Re: [SoG] Problem with scanner - can anyone help please?
    2. In a message dated 5/11/05 2:58:16 PM GMT Daylight Time, pbp@archive-research.freeserve.co.uk writes: If the worst comes to the worst and you have to buy a new scanner I can't advise you on which one to go for, but I would say don't get an HP scanjet 3970, although the output is good, myself and a friend have both had problems with ours and the software is very slow to load up and run. Thanks, Peter, will bear that in mind. Pauline

    05/11/2005 05:48:16
    1. RE: [SoG] Problem with scanner - can anyone help please?
    2. Chris
    3. Pauline Holmes Sent: 10 May 2005 20:23 > it kept asking me to insert disc 2, so I was back to square one. Pauline, When it asks for "disk 2", does it give you opportunity to alter where Disk 2 is? In the past, when I've found similar issues, I've been able to tell it that "disk 2" was where "disk 1" was - in other words the location of the downloaded software. The problem is due to the original installation being on two disks and the script being followed by the system expects the next file to be on disk 2. Usually they are happy when you tell them that disk 2 is not a floppy! Chris

    05/11/2005 03:14:55
    1. Re: [SoG] Problem with scanner - can anyone help please?
    2. In a message dated 5/11/05 9:15:26 AM GMT Daylight Time, chris@masquerade.demon.co.uk writes: Pauline, When it asks for "disk 2", does it give you opportunity to alter where Disk 2 is? In the past, when I've found similar issues, I've been able to tell it that "disk 2" was where "disk 1" was - in other words the location of the downloaded software. The problem is due to the original installation being on two disks and the script being followed by the system expects the next file to be on disk 2. Usually they are happy when you tell them that disk 2 is not a floppy! Chris Thanks, Chris, will try that. Pauline

    05/11/2005 01:00:35
    1. Cragg YKS in 1841
    2. Peter B Park
    3. I know there are couple of YKS buffs out there. I am trying to find which township Cragg (about 2 miles south of Mytholmroyd on what is now the B6138) was in in 1841. In 1901 it was in the civil parish of Hebden Bridge, but in 1841 Hebden Bridge was described as a hamlet and split between the townships of Errington, Heptonstall and Wadsworth - which was Cragg in. Can anyone help please? Thanks, Peter Park, Walton on Thames, Surrey, UK.

    05/10/2005 01:55:17
    1. Problem with scanner - can anyone help please?
    2. I recently had a computer breakdown which necessitated reformatting the hard drive. Since then I have been unable to get my scanner to work. The problems are as follows: The scanner is a Compumax PS 300. It came with two floppy discs containing the necessary software including iPhotoPlus. However, when I try to install, the first disc runs ok, but there is an error on the second disc and the installation aborts. I know the scanner itself is ok because I can get it working with other programmes such as MS Word and Publisher, but none of them will save as bitmap or jpg files, which means none of my photo editing software will read them and I can't edit them. I have tried using the computer's 'search for new hardware' facility, but it does not find the scanner. I searched on Google, and found a website where I could download the software, but strangely when I ran it, it kept asking me to insert disc 2, so I was back to square one. I also tried e-mailing Compumax, but they didn't reply. Is there anyone on list who has this make of scanner and could loan me the discs for a few days? I really don't want to have to buy a new scanner just because a floppy disc has failed! Pauline Holmes

    05/10/2005 09:23:23
    1. RE: [SoG] Ash, Kent
    2. In a message dated Fri, 06 May 2005 22:40:42 +0100 GMT Daylight Time, "Graham Lewis" <graham.lewis@optusnet.com.au> (by way of Geoffrey _lists@sog.org.uk_ (mailto:lists@sog.org.uk) ) writes: This is indeed Surrey. When I have a look at other families on surrounding pages, there are a number there plainly enumerated as born in Frimley, Surrey, despite Ancestry having indexed them as Kent! Not quite as bizarre as indexing Middlesex as Mexico though! Not so bad. I have recently been involved in an entry that clearly said 'Born on the water, Canal' and has been transcribed/indexed as 'Bourton on the Water, Canada'. And to think I had always understood it to have been in Gloucestershire . . DaveD

    05/08/2005 10:33:11
    1. RE: [SoG] Ash, Kent
    2. Jeanne Bunting UK
    3. Graham, >This is indeed Surrey. When I have a look at other families on surrounding pages, there are a number there plainly enumerated as born in Frimley, Surrey, despite Ancestry having indexed them as Kent!< I know - I actually live in Ash Vale - about 1 mile from Ash! Jeanne Bunting

    05/07/2005 07:01:59
    1. RE: [SoG] Ash, Kent
    2. Graham Lewis
    3. Jeanne & others who set me straight! Thanks you. This is indeed Surrey. When I have a look at other families on surrounding pages, there are a number there plainly enumerated as born in Frimley, Surrey, despite Ancestry having indexed them as Kent! Not quite as bizarre as indexing Middlesex as Mexico though! Cheers Graham Sydney -----Original Message----- From: Jeanne Bunting UK [mailto:firgrove@compuserve.com] Sent: Friday, 6 May 2005 5:43 AM To: SOG-UK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SoG] Ash, Kent The districts you refer to are most certainly in Surrey. If you scroll down the 1861 search page you can look at the individual counties and within those counties are listed the parishes. Once you have selected a parish you can view the "Enumerator's Walk". Try it for the District where you found your people. Sadly, Ancestry were in too much of a hurry to get the census on line that they omitted to check little details like which parish is in which county - many are wrong. And it isn't there in its entirety in spite of what it says on their web site - they have admitted that there are omissions. See: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GOONS/2005-05/1115208304 Jeanne Bunting This email has been scanned for viruses by NetBenefit using Sophos anti-virus technology

    05/06/2005 04:40:42
    1. Ash Kent
    2. A.G.Hamilton
    3. I live very near to Ash in East Kent - roughly between Canterbury and Ramsgate. I've looked up the local street map and there is no Bagshot Road or anything similar in the area and nothing about Frimley either.

    05/06/2005 08:15:29
    1. Re: [SoG] Ash, Kent
    2. Alan McGowan
    3. Frimley was a chapelry within the parish of Ash, Surrey. Although Frimley was not a parish in its own right, it kept its own registers. Ash registers date from 1548. Frimley registers date from 1590. Part of Frimley became the town of Camberley. Bagshot is a few miles away. Alan McGowan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Lewis (by way of Geoffrey <lists@sog.org.uk>)" <graham.lewis@optusnet.com.au> To: <SOG-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 6:52 PM Subject: [SoG] Ash, Kent Is some kind soul on the list familiar with Kent able to help me please? The 1861 Census of England & Wales, now imaged/indexed on Ancestry.co.uk in its entirety, has a family I'm interested in at what looks like Bagshot Road, Parish of Ash, Hamlet/Tything of Frimley, Kent. There are two places named Ash in Kent, and using Google to look for Frimley in Kent isn't helping much, so I'm not sure which Ash I'm dealing with. I suspect it's the one nearest Margate, because that's where the family was in 1871, but that might be an unwarranted leap! Any ideas anyone? TIA Graham Lewis Sydney [ I can't necessarily help but I can add more confusion !! There is an Ash in Surrey, five miles south of Frimley, and Bagshot is four miles up the road from Frimley, so it is likely that this road was named Bagshot Road. The whole area today is dominated by Aldershot and Farnborough which have expanded greatly over the last 100 years or so. I could find no sign of a Frimley anywhere near the two villages of Ash in Kent. I don't know whether there have been boundary changes since 1861, but I doubt it. Perhaps somebody local can comment on Frimley in Kent, and whether Frimley in Surrey was ever in the parish of Ash. - Geoff ]

    05/05/2005 02:48:42
    1. Re: [SoG] Ash, Kent
    2. Peter Christian
    3. The Ancestry 1861 census has *huge* numbers of errors in counties. A whole swathe of Surrey, from Croydon to Aldershot is recorded as being in Kent. But the correct county usually appears in the birthplace field. Not quite as bizarre as all the places in Middlesex recorded as Mexico (look for Shoreditch or Stepney) An utter shambles. peter At 18:52 05/05/2005, you wrote: >Is some kind soul on the list familiar with Kent able to help me please? >The 1861 Census of England & Wales, now imaged/indexed on Ancestry.co.uk in >its entirety, has a family I'm interested in at what looks like Bagshot >Road, Parish of Ash, Hamlet/Tything of Frimley, Kent. > >There are two places named Ash in Kent, and using Google to look for Frimley >in Kent isn't helping much, so I'm not sure which Ash I'm dealing with. I >suspect it's the one nearest Margate, because that's where the family was in >1871, but that might be an unwarranted leap! > >Any ideas anyone? > >TIA > >Graham Lewis >Sydney > > >[ I can't necessarily help but I can add more confusion !! > >There is an Ash in Surrey, five miles south of Frimley, and Bagshot is four >miles up the road from Frimley, so it is likely that this road was named >Bagshot Road. The whole area today is dominated by Aldershot and >Farnborough which have expanded greatly over the last 100 years or so. I >could find no sign of a Frimley anywhere near the two villages of Ash in Kent. > >I don't know whether there have been boundary changes since 1861, but I >doubt it. Perhaps somebody local can comment on Frimley in Kent, and >whether Frimley in Surrey was ever in the parish of Ash. - Geoff ]

    05/05/2005 02:48:38
    1. Ash, Kent
    2. Graham Lewis
    3. Is some kind soul on the list familiar with Kent able to help me please? The 1861 Census of England & Wales, now imaged/indexed on Ancestry.co.uk in its entirety, has a family I'm interested in at what looks like Bagshot Road, Parish of Ash, Hamlet/Tything of Frimley, Kent. There are two places named Ash in Kent, and using Google to look for Frimley in Kent isn't helping much, so I'm not sure which Ash I'm dealing with. I suspect it's the one nearest Margate, because that's where the family was in 1871, but that might be an unwarranted leap! Any ideas anyone? TIA Graham Lewis Sydney [ I can't necessarily help but I can add more confusion !! There is an Ash in Surrey, five miles south of Frimley, and Bagshot is four miles up the road from Frimley, so it is likely that this road was named Bagshot Road. The whole area today is dominated by Aldershot and Farnborough which have expanded greatly over the last 100 years or so. I could find no sign of a Frimley anywhere near the two villages of Ash in Kent. I don't know whether there have been boundary changes since 1861, but I doubt it. Perhaps somebody local can comment on Frimley in Kent, and whether Frimley in Surrey was ever in the parish of Ash. - Geoff ]

    05/05/2005 12:52:33
    1. [SoG] Ash, Kent
    2. Jeanne Bunting UK
    3. The districts you refer to are most certainly in Surrey. If you scroll down the 1861 search page you can look at the individual counties and within those counties are listed the parishes. Once you have selected a parish you can view the "Enumerator's Walk". Try it for the District where you found your people. Sadly, Ancestry were in too much of a hurry to get the census on line that they omitted to check little details like which parish is in which county - many are wrong. And it isn't there in its entirety in spite of what it says on their web site - they have admitted that there are omissions. See: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GOONS/2005-05/1115208304 Jeanne Bunting

    05/05/2005 09:43:01
    1. Re: [SoG] Ash, Kent
    2. Hi Graham, Ash, Bagshot and Frimley are relatively near each other in Surrey... There may be places of the same names in Kent for all I know but seeing the names certainly brought west Surrey to mind... Cheers, Janet Heskins (Surbiton, Surrey)

    05/05/2005 09:25:07