Hello. I also have something simular... E. Rush - Head (female) age 74years. Thom.Rush - Son - step age 16 years. Could I see read this as Grandson, which may be more plausable. Any thoughts to this? Eddy in Bavaria

"Julia Riley" <julia.riley1@btopenworld.com> wrote : >angela hamilton wrote : >>Does anyone know if 'lodger' used in this way instead of naming >>relationships? > I've definitely had several instances of this - and in my case where it's > a > rare surname and the individual listed as lodger was not found with his > own > family in that census, I am quite sure they were actually relatives. It > seems (and I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong!) that unless the > person was directly related i.e. son/grandson, daughter/granddaughter, or > the phrase son/daughter-in-law which could also mean stepson/daughter, any > other relative seems to qualify as 'lodger' (or even servant!). I think this is one of those areas where the accuracy of the detail recorded seems to be affected by the precise circumstances of the household, and probably the enthusiasm of the enumeraotor as well. I've certainly found one or two examples of relatives recorded as 'visitor' and 'lodger', but I've more often found brother, sister, aunt, uncle, nephew, niece, cousin and even the dreaded 'mother-in-law' ! I've also found a very simple 'relative' and also 'relation', 'adopted daughter' and a few others. I don't actually think 'lodger' or 'servant' were usual terms for family members, unless there was an actual conflict in that the person concerned was both a relative and a lodger or servant and there was a need to choose which term to use. > For the older generation I have also found the phrase 'guest' used rather > than lodger, particularly in cases such as the elderly 'maiden aunt' who > it > seems was accorded greater respect. I found at least two instances of such > a > person who under 'relation to head of household' was described as a guest > but under occupation was described as 'housekeeper' and I assumed > (possibly > wrongly) that the ladies so described were acting as housekeepers to their > male relative with whom they lived. I'd tend to think of 'guest' as implying someone with greater rights than a lodger, and who was not paying cash for their keep. Occupation could, of course, be related to a different location altogether, but I would agree that an elderly lady described as 'guest' and 'housekeeper' and living with an elderly man, was most likely exactly that. John B Leic., Eng

I've definitely had several instances of this - and in my case where it's a rare surname and the individual listed as lodger was not found with his own family in that census, I am quite sure they were actually relatives. It seems (and I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong!) that unless the person was directly related i.e. son/grandson, daughter/granddaughter, or the phrase son/daughter-in-law which could also mean stepson/daughter, any other relative seems to qualify as 'lodger' (or even servant!). For the older generation I have also found the phrase 'guest' used rather than lodger, particularly in cases such as the elderly 'maiden aunt' who it seems was accorded greater respect. I found at least two instances of such a person who under 'relation to head of household' was described as a guest but under occupation was described as 'housekeeper' and I assumed (possibly wrongly) that the ladies so described were acting as housekeepers to their male relative with whom they lived. Julia -----Original Message----- From: angela hamilton [mailto:ag.hamilton22@skylinkmail.co.uk] Sent: 31 August 2005 20:36 To: SOG-UK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SoG] 'lodgers' I have two census records where someone in a house is described as 'lodger' when I suspect that they may be related to the head of of the household - possibly a brother in one case- as they have the same surname. In both cases it is the 1851 census - one in Hampshire and one in Essex. Does anyone know if 'lodger' used in this way instead of naming relationships?

I have two census records where someone in a house is described as 'lodger' when I suspect that they may be related to the head of of the household - possibly a brother in one case- as they have the same surname. In both cases it is the 1851 census - one in Hampshire and one in Essex. Does anyone know if 'lodger' used in this way instead of naming relationships?

Evening all, Would any one have a suggestion on how/ where I could search online for "Orphans/ Orphaniges or appointed Gardians around 1900 in South east Essex. I would be most gratfull for any hints Bye the noo Eddy in bavaria

Hi try, www.essexcc.gov.uk/seax and in the search engine type guardians and village and date then play around a little. I hope that you find some success with this. Glynis ----- Original Message ----- Evening all, Would any one have a suggestion on how/ where I could search online for "Orphans/ Orphaniges or appointed Gardians around 1900 in South east Essex. I would be most gratfull for any hints Bye the noo Eddy in bavaria

In the absence of a copy of the Dec 2002 Computers in Genealogy magazine in the SoG library could some kind soul please scan a copy of the ScoutsReunited Review on page 526 please and E-mail me a copy? please use: hiDUMMYpaul@btinternet.com (& remove DUMMY) Many thanks in advance. Paul

There is a Genforum site where you can pose such questions. Very helpful people there. All the best, Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur & Pauline Kennedy" <akpak@waitrose.com> To: <SOG-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 12:04 PM Subject: [SoG] Affiliate shopping site and Norton Internet Security Please can anyone help me to configure Norton Internet Security (2003) so that the SoG affiliate site http://www.buy.at/genealogists works properly? The site operators www.perfiliate.com haven't been able to find the answer for me yet, so I'm wondering if anyone here can tell me. When I go to the site, the images don't all load and there's a message at the bottom of the page telling me that this is because of NIS; this apparently also prevents the commission being tracked. In NIS (Options - Web Content tab) I've tried adding the domain (and another one they mentioned), then under User Settings allowing pop-up ads, but it still doesn't work. The only way I can get rid of the messages and see all the images is to turn off ad blocking altogether, which I prefer not to do. Does anyone know a better way, please? Arthur Kennedy

I wrote: > Please can anyone help me to configure Norton Internet Security (2003) so > that the SoG affiliate site http://www.buy.at/genealogists works properly? > The site operators www.perfiliate.com haven't been able to find the answer > for me yet, so I'm wondering if anyone here can tell me. Thanks to all who offered suggestions - at present, though, changing my internet security software isn't something I want to consider. I realise that NIS has some shortcomings, but as long as I am able to keep it updated - maybe another 2 years? - it's a case of sticking with the devil I know. Meanwhile, I think I've stumbled across the solution by myself, which I am posting here for anyone else who might find it useful. (I am using NIS 2003, with XP Home, SP1.) Under NIS Options click on the Web Content tab. Add www.perfiliate.com to the list of sites in the left hand panel. Highlight this, then adjust the settings under the tabs in the right hand panel: On the User Settings tab I have permitted Pop-up Ads, though I'm not sure if this is necessary. On Ad Blocking I found it was necessary to specifically permit the Perfiliate ads, using the string www.perfiliate.com . Perfiliate also advised me to permit the string b1.perfb.com , but so far that one doesn't seem to have made a difference either way. Under Global Settings there's an option to Block or Permit Information about Visited Sites. I suspect this will need to be set to Permit so that commission can be calculated, but as I haven't actually tried to buy anything yet I haven't tested it. Does anyone know for sure? Regards, Arthur

I too graduated from Norton Anti-virus to Norton Internet Security for my Windows 2000 Professional operating system, only to find that the system slowed down to such an extent it was almost unusable. So I complained to Norton, got my money refunded, and chose another solution. Regards Geoff Riggs South Wales ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Osborn" <aosborn@ntlworld.com> To: <SOG-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [SoG] Affiliate shopping site and Norton Internet Security > I'm sure we have experts who can advise Arthur and I am not going to be much > help, But I had problems with Norton Internet Security 2003, first it didn't > seem too happy with service pack 2. I upgraded to NIS 2005. > > I still found NIS blocked things I wanted, was not easy to configure for a > home network. Worse than that it caused my system to slow down, everything > took longer. > > My solution was to uninstall it even though I had time to run on the updates > etc. > > I uninstalled Norton entirely, I switched on the XP firewall and downloaded > Avast anti virus which is free. (In reality I downloaded the A/Virus, > disconnected my broadband, uninstalled Norton, switched on the XP Firewall, > installed the A/Virus, then reconnected broadband) > > This works for me - I have regained my speed and now have no firewall > problems. > > For what its worth > > regards Alan mem 20896 > > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 0534-3, 25/08/2005 > Tested on: 25/08/2005 18:10:28 > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com >

Check your firewall help file for "referrer checking" or "private header information". Probably somewhere under privacy. Make sure that referrer blocking is OFF or private header information is permitted. I'm only guessing but the sites may well use this to check the route that you took to get there in order to ensure the commission goes to the right organisation. > -----Original Message----- > From: Arthur & Pauline Kennedy [mailto:akpak@waitrose.com] > Sent: 25 August 2005 17:04 > To: SOG-UK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SoG] Affiliate shopping site and Norton Internet Security > > Please can anyone help me to configure Norton Internet Security (2003) > so that the SoG affiliate site http://www.buy.at/genealogists works properly? > The site operators www.perfiliate.com haven't been able to find the > answer for me yet, so I'm wondering if anyone here can tell me.

I'm sure we have experts who can advise Arthur and I am not going to be much help, But I had problems with Norton Internet Security 2003, first it didn't seem too happy with service pack 2. I upgraded to NIS 2005. I still found NIS blocked things I wanted, was not easy to configure for a home network. Worse than that it caused my system to slow down, everything took longer. My solution was to uninstall it even though I had time to run on the updates etc. I uninstalled Norton entirely, I switched on the XP firewall and downloaded Avast anti virus which is free. (In reality I downloaded the A/Virus, disconnected my broadband, uninstalled Norton, switched on the XP Firewall, installed the A/Virus, then reconnected broadband) This works for me - I have regained my speed and now have no firewall problems. For what its worth regards Alan mem 20896 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0534-3, 25/08/2005 Tested on: 25/08/2005 18:10:28 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

Can anyone please help me out - I just got a birth certificate and in column 10 it has the new name as Certificate of Naming. How does this happen and what period of time passes. Many thanks, Michael New Zealand - 020603 -- NOTE: All documents are scanned with "VET AntiVirus, Ver 10.66.0.0 Dated May 13 2005" before receiving and sending. http://www.geocities.com/michaeloutram Names: Outram, Humberstone, Alexander, Munro, Gun-Munro, MacLean Places: England, Scotland, Grenada, Peru, Chile, New Zealand Looking for old friends - www.schoolfriends.co.uk

Please can anyone help me to configure Norton Internet Security (2003) so that the SoG affiliate site http://www.buy.at/genealogists works properly? The site operators www.perfiliate.com haven't been able to find the answer for me yet, so I'm wondering if anyone here can tell me. When I go to the site, the images don't all load and there's a message at the bottom of the page telling me that this is because of NIS; this apparently also prevents the commission being tracked. In NIS (Options - Web Content tab) I've tried adding the domain (and another one they mentioned), then under User Settings allowing pop-up ads, but it still doesn't work. The only way I can get rid of the messages and see all the images is to turn off ad blocking altogether, which I prefer not to do. Does anyone know a better way, please? Arthur Kennedy

Thank you to John and Patrick for helping with this search. Regards Steve -----Original Message----- From: Steve Pettitt [mailto:stephen.pettitt@virgin.net] Sent: 23 August 2005 20:24 To: SOG-UK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SoG] 192.com Can anyone please help me out with a check of 192.com. I am looking for the most recent electoral registration for Suneela Armstrong who lives with her husband Rodger Armstrong (yes the spelling is correct). I have found the individuals listed on 192.com however to access the full details I would need to subscribe for 100 searches @ £35 which to be honest I would never use. I live in West London and occasionally, work and other commitments permitting, I visit the SOG and PRO and would therefore be more than happy to repay the favour by doing something in the way of look ups or research. Regards Steve Pettitt Researching Pettitt's and variants in Essex, Suffolk, Cambridgeshire, Norfolk and Hertfordshire (all periods) plus Birmingham and the Lake District (during the 19th century).

Can anyone please help me out with a check of 192.com. I am looking for the most recent electoral registration for Suneela Armstrong who lives with her husband Rodger Armstrong (yes the spelling is correct). I have found the individuals listed on 192.com however to access the full details I would need to subscribe for 100 searches @ £35 which to be honest I would never use. I live in West London and occasionally, work and other commitments permitting, I visit the SOG and PRO and would therefore be more than happy to repay the favour by doing something in the way of look ups or research. Regards Steve Pettitt Researching Pettitt's and variants in Essex, Suffolk, Cambridgeshire, Norfolk and Hertfordshire (all periods) plus Birmingham and the Lake District (during the 19th century).

See http://www.qinetiq.com/home/newsroom/news_releases_homepage/2005/3rd_quarte r/friends_reunited_buys.html Jeanne Bunting

Good Day, Would anyone have the Steele's Navy List handy. I'm looking for Thomas Worth (c1783-1810) RM Lieut. who died at Cadiz along with John Buckland and buried at the Trafalgar Cemetery, Gibraltar. Thank you, Edna - Ottawa

I have not seen this mentioned so thought some might be interested in this half price sale of practically the entire stock (over 2700 CDs) at Archive CD Books. For details go to: http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/books/new/index.htm The sales include CDs of the images (usually not indexed) of the 1841 census for many counties. These images are probably the best available from the rather poor original microfilms. There are images for the other census years too. Sale ends at 9.00am BST tomorrow Monday . . . Cheers, John John Addis-Smith Thurleigh, Bedfordshire, England

Good morning list, I am the listowner for the Hampshire Lookup Exchange site. I wanted to tell you that I have revamped it and I hope that it is a lot less unwieldy than it was. http://members.madasafish.com/~caroldolton/ Having tried to get into contact with all the volunteers I find there are three whose emails do not work. Mike and Sheila, Chris Smart, and Stephanie Russell. If these people are able can they please contact me? Happy hunting, regards Carol P.S. Carol requested that I place this on this SOG site. Thank you, Edna - Ottawa.