Comment picked up from the Cheshire List... "I don't think that there is any chance of the 1911 census being released early. See: http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-4656.html It may be that it is in such poor condition it will never be released at all!" The gist of it appears to be that there are 2 issues with the 1911 census. (1) It consists of original schedules, not enumerators' books, which means that the paper volume is multiplied hugely. This is all there is - it has never been filmed. (2) The conditions it was kept in previously mean that lots of the pages are in poor condition - the original poster says that people who work in the archives at Kew know where the 1911 census is, because, to be frank, it stinks! (I'm willing to be contradicted, but it all seemed very plausible). Rather than build up hopes for 2 January 2012 that simply will not be fulfilled, could SoG lobby for a feasibility study that will identify what, if anything, can be done with it - while still preserving the confidentiality of the data until that date? Adrian Bruce adrian_bruce@bigfoot.com
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:42:45 EDT, JGDine@aol.com wrote: >Derrck Porter posted a note on the SOG list about Tree Draw being available >on the free disk accompanying the November issue of Family Tree Magazine. How >to do you find it? My disk simply has the Census for Oxford, Parish Records, >Dorset, back Issues FTM, Essential Web Links and a Demo of Family Historian >2.3. Are different disks sent to overseas subscribers? >Joan, Quebec Canada >SOG 004277 Because it is on one of the CDs which came with the "Your Family Tree" magazine not to be confused with the "Family Tree Magazine" magazine Tom Cheers, Tom <tomp@st.net.au> Tom Perrett Proud to be member of Melbourne DPS, first port of call re Victorian research - http://home.vicnet.net.au/~dpsoc
John Thanks, I found it useful. I assume it will appear in the list as soon as it is released. Peter At 16:56 12/10/2005, you wrote: >"Peter Abbott" <PeterAbbott.Eymore@btinternet.com> wrote : > > >>I can no longer access the 1851 census records on Ancestry.co.uk. >>Have they moved? Please can someone post the links again. > >It appears to have been a trial run and has now been removed prior >to a proper release in the near future. There is a link on the >homepage allowing you to sign up to be told when it becomes available. > >John B >Leic., Eng
"Peter Abbott" <PeterAbbott.Eymore@btinternet.com> wrote : >I can no longer access the 1851 census records on Ancestry.co.uk. Have they >moved? Please can someone post the links again. It appears to have been a trial run and has now been removed prior to a proper release in the near future. There is a link on the homepage allowing you to sign up to be told when it becomes available. John B Leic., Eng
I can no longer access the 1851 census records on Ancestry.co.uk. Have they moved? Please can someone post the links again. Thanks Peter
In article <r0tmk1tgif799k9u0174hplfapuo02k28i@4ax.com>, John Addis-Smith <genl@addisgen.com> wrote: > The current November 2005 issue of 'Your Family Tree' magazine has a > free copy of Tree Draw 2 on its cover disk. > Can anyone confirm that TreeDraw can be used as a tree-drawing > program without using any GEDCOM input? Yes it can - but it will be harder work. But I am sure you expected that. There is not much you can't do - have a look at ... www.asgz91.dsl.pipex.com/trees-admin/select.html ... if you have a minute or two to spare. These trees were produced using TreeDraw3. -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Derrick G Porter derrick@pluckrose.org Member of the Guild of One-Name Studies ... ... Searching for PLUCKS and PLUCKROSES worldwide www.pluckrose.org Tel: +44(0) 1798 81 2383 ___________________________________________________________________________
Derrck Porter posted a note on the SOG list about Tree Draw being available on the free disk accompanying the November issue of Family Tree Magazine. How to do you find it? My disk simply has the Census for Oxford, Parish Records, Dorset, back Issues FTM, Essential Web Links and a Demo of Family Historian 2.3. Are different disks sent to overseas subscribers? Joan, Quebec Canada SOG 004277
>> Eric D. Probert wrote: >> >> >Does anyone know of a genealogy package/program which will produce a >> dotted line on a chart if you indicate that there is uncertainty about a >> relationship or link? >> Frank Lake <flake@suscom.net> wrote: >> >> Check out Kith & Kin Pro http://www.spansoft.org/ > Graham Lewis wrote: > >Or indeed TreeDraw - SpanSoft's tree-drawing software which works with any Gedcom file The current November 2005 issue of 'Your Family Tree' magazine has a free copy of Tree Draw 2 on its cover disk. Can anyone confirm that TreeDraw can be used as a tree-drawing program without using any GEDCOM input? Cheers, John
Or indeed TreeDraw - SpanSoft's tree-drawing software which works with any Gedcom file Cheers Graham Lewis > Frank Lake <flake@suscom.net> wrote: > > Eric, > > Check out Kith & Kin Pro http://www.spansoft.org/ > > Frank > > Eric D. Probert wrote: > > >Does anyone know of a genealogy package/program which will produce a > dotted line on a chart if you indicate that there is uncertainty about a > relationship or link? > > > >
Well - definitely TreeDraw - Kith and Kin (excellent program that it is!) is the databse program, while TreeDraw is a more generalised tree drawing program, and as Graham says, will accept GEDCOM 5 input. There is a tailored version of TreeDraw that goes with legacy as well, though I suspect the only real tailoring is in the input side. Hugh Ainsley (one of SpanSoft's beta testers)
Eric, Check out Kith & Kin Pro http://www.spansoft.org/ Frank Eric D. Probert wrote: >Does anyone know of a genealogy package/program which will produce a dotted line on a chart if you indicate that there is uncertainty about a relationship or link? > >
In message of 9 Oct, "Eric D. Probert" <ericdprobert@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Does anyone know of a genealogy package/program which will produce a > dotted line on a chart if you indicate that there is uncertainty > about a relationship or link? If this is no go, some packages will at least allow you to alter the line manually to some form of dotted. (Then try to get the College of Arms standard of "wavy line" for bastardy!) -- Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org
Does anyone know of a genealogy package/program which will produce a dotted line on a chart if you indicate that there is uncertainty about a relationship or link? Eric Probert Chelmsford, Essex, UK
Ancestry have just about put up the 1851 Census at: http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8860&path= It is not yet accessible from the home page at: http://www.ancestry.co.uk/ but will be any time soon I expect . . . I have not checked everything of course but my Herefordshire ancestors were there. Cheers, John John Addis-Smith Thurleigh, Bedfordshire, England
In a message dated 08/10/2005 02:02:28 GMT Daylight Time, AlanMCraven@aol.com writes: 1851 England Census _http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8860&path=_ (http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8860&path=) Wales _http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8861&path=_ (http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8861&path=) Channel Islands _http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8862&path=_ (http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8862&path=) Isle of Man _http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8863&path=_ (http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8863&path=) Sorry about that - I don't know why the e-mail didn't print correctly. It should, of course, be: England 1851 http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8860&path= Wales http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8861&path= Channel Islands http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8862&path= Isle of Man http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8863&path= Best Wishes Alanb Craven
In a message dated 08/10/2005 01:17:18 GMT Daylight Time, genl@addisgen.com writes: Ancestry have just about put up the 1851 Census at: http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8860&path= It is not yet accessible from the home page at: http://www.ancestry.co.uk/ but will be any time soon I expect . . . I have not checked everything of course but my Herefordshire ancestors were there. That is just for England. The other URLs are as follows 1851 England Census _http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8860&path=_ (http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8860&path=) Wales _http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8861&path=_ (http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8861&path=) Channel Islands _http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8862&path=_ (http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8862&path=) Isle of Man _http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8863&path=_ (http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8863&path=) It is now 02.00 am and I suspect that I am not the only one having a very late night! Best Wishes Alan Craven
<cstupples@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote : >Could anyone advise me if there are searchable on-line indexes for BMD's >throughout >the UK. I am interested in both England and Scotland? Also >where can I find an on->line index regarding names of those who served in >the 1st WW? In many cases I am >unsure if any charge is made for searching >as distinct from obtaining an indexed name >etc. The purpose of this >enquiry is to assist me helping, at the behest of a Doctor, an >extremely >ill patient in my local Hospice gaining some knowledge of his family roots. I don't believe you will find both English and Scottish indexes at any one site. English indexes are searchable at http://www.1837online.com/Trace2web/ or at http://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/index.php , both payment sites. There is a partial English index available for free at http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ and mirrored at http://www.ancestry.co.uk/Default.aspx? Scottish records are available, also for a fee, at http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/index.aspx I don't think there's any on-line listing of those who served in the 1st WW, the closest will probably be the medal rolls index at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/ ; unless the names you're looking for are unusual, or you have other information to help, you may well find that identifying an individual from this source is not easy. This site is a free index but payment is needed to get at the details, which are of variable use. John B Leic., Eng
----- Original Message ----- From: "steve morse" <morse@athomewithyourpc.net> To: "Kendal" <kendal@telkomsa.net> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [SoG] Indexes.names of those who served in WWI > Hello Keith > It depends on which country. > The UK does have the free BMD online but this probably does not cover WW1 > men. > There is to my knowledge no full list of men who served. Obviously there is > a list of men who died. > The fullest list is probably the Medal Index Cards online at the National > Archives site but once you have got a mans name sorted out, you have to pay > for the index card (£3.50) > If they are SA then there should be records locally. > If there are any names and units I can help with, I will do my best. > Although as I say, it is easier when a man has been killed than if he > survived. > Try www.1914-1918.net > This is an excellent site ( I know the owner) and covers most things. > Regards > Steve > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kendal" <kendal@telkomsa.net> > To: "Steve Morse" <morse@athomewithyourpc.net> > Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 12:45 PM > Subject: Fw: [SoG] Indexes.names of those who served in WWI > > > > Hi Steve: > > Greetings from Cape Town. > > This appeared in my e-,mail today. I thought you may be able to assist in > > the right direction > > Many thanks & regards, > > Keith Kendal . > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <cstupples@tinyworld.co.uk> > > To: <SOG-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:19 PM > > Subject: [SoG] Indexes. > > > > > >> Could anyone advise me if there are searchable on-line indexes for BMD's > > throughout the UK. I am interested in both England and Scotland? Also > > where can I find an on-line index regarding names of those who served in > > the > > 1st WW? In many cases I am unsure if any charge is made for searching as > > distinct from obtaining an indexed name etc. The purpose of this enquiry > > is > > to assist me helping, at the behest of a Doctor, an extremely ill patient > > in > > my local Hospice gaining some knowledge of his family roots. > >> > >> Many thanks if you can help me, an inexperienced researcher. > >> > >> Chris Stupples. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > >
Hi Chris: I've forwarded your e-mail regarding WWI to someone who specialises in WWI matters. He lives in Coventry. Regards, Keith Kendal Cape Town ----- Original Message ----- From: <cstupples@tinyworld.co.uk> To: <SOG-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:19 PM Subject: [SoG] Indexes. > Could anyone advise me if there are searchable on-line indexes for BMD's throughout the UK. I am interested in both England and Scotland? Also where can I find an on-line index regarding names of those who served in the 1st WW? In many cases I am unsure if any charge is made for searching as distinct from obtaining an indexed name etc. The purpose of this enquiry is to assist me helping, at the behest of a Doctor, an extremely ill patient in my local Hospice gaining some knowledge of his family roots. > > Many thanks if you can help me, an inexperienced researcher. > > Chris Stupples. > > >
Could anyone advise me if there are searchable on-line indexes for BMD's throughout the UK. I am interested in both England and Scotland? Also where can I find an on-line index regarding names of those who served in the 1st WW? In many cases I am unsure if any charge is made for searching as distinct from obtaining an indexed name etc. The purpose of this enquiry is to assist me helping, at the behest of a Doctor, an extremely ill patient in my local Hospice gaining some knowledge of his family roots. Many thanks if you can help me, an inexperienced researcher. Chris Stupples.