Thank you Dave and others, it should have been obvious but I was a cavalryman<GGG> Thanks again. Peter Rogers Today's Topics: #1 Military Term ? [Peter Rogers <newhurst@compuserve.] Partridge "Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English" 1967 printing Page 540 "mud-Major. An infantry major: Military (-1906); obsolete by 1915. Because, on parade, he was on foot" Dave Watkins

Peter Partridge "Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English" 1967 printing Page 540 "mud-Major. An infantry major: Military (-1906); obsolete by 1915. Because, on parade, he was on foot" Dave Watkins

Mud-major means nothing to me. Context? Major Mud, on the other hand, was a jocular term in the First World War for the mud in the trenches, which contributed to discomfort or defeat. Hector Davie

Can any of our knowledgeable Listers tell me if they know of the term "Mud Major". Dating from around the 1890-1900 period and is an Army expression. I have looked in the usual sources plus 3 dictionaries of slang but without result. Awaiting replies in hope.... Cheers Peter Rogers.

The editor's name is on the inside cover. His email address is shown on page 368 of the current issue. > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Amsden [mailto:amsden@btinternet.com] > Sent: 08 January 2006 13:29 > To: SOG-UK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SoG] Society Magazine > > Can someone please tell me if the Editor or the Graphic Designer of the > SOG > Magazine can be contacted via email. > > I need the answer to a small technical question in a hurry.

I have, but there are no email addresses for either the Editor or the Graphic Designer. However, have sent an email to Fiona Lyall - perhaps she has the answer. Many thanks Peter > From: webmaster@sog.org.uk > Reply-To: SOG-UK-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 14:31:46 +0000 > To: SOG-UK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SoG] Society Magazine > Resent-From: SOG-UK-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 07:31:51 -0700 > > Look at the inside front cover of GM! > > At 13:28 08/01/2006 +0000, Peter Amsden wrote: >> Can someone please tell me if the Editor or the Graphic Designer of the SOG >> Magazine can be contacted via email. >> >> I need the answer to a small technical question in a hurry. >> >> >> Peter Amsden, >> Argyll, Scotland >> >> Researching Amsden World Wide >> Outline History: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~amsden >> Books I have written: http://www.btinternet.com/~amsden >> AllExperts: http://www.allexperts.com/displayExpert.asp?Expert=38044 >> >> Never dump originals - they may be all that is left after the computer age. >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________ >> This email has been scanned by Netintelligence >> http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > Chris Broomfield, Webmaster, Society of Genealogists, London > webmaster@sog.org.uk www.sog.org.uk > Search the Library Catalogue from home. Use www.sog.org.uk/sogcat/ > On-line retail shopping? Use www.buy.at/genealogists our affiliate > shop and SoG gains funds at no cost to you > >

Look at the inside front cover of GM! At 13:28 08/01/2006 +0000, Peter Amsden wrote: >Can someone please tell me if the Editor or the Graphic Designer of the SOG >Magazine can be contacted via email. > >I need the answer to a small technical question in a hurry. > > >Peter Amsden, >Argyll, Scotland > >Researching Amsden World Wide >Outline History: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~amsden >Books I have written: http://www.btinternet.com/~amsden >AllExperts: http://www.allexperts.com/displayExpert.asp?Expert=38044 > >Never dump originals - they may be all that is left after the computer age. > > > >______________________________________________ >This email has been scanned by Netintelligence >http://www.netintelligence.com/email Chris Broomfield, Webmaster, Society of Genealogists, London webmaster@sog.org.uk www.sog.org.uk Search the Library Catalogue from home. Use www.sog.org.uk/sogcat/ On-line retail shopping? Use www.buy.at/genealogists our affiliate shop and SoG gains funds at no cost to you

Can someone please tell me if the Editor or the Graphic Designer of the SOG Magazine can be contacted via email. I need the answer to a small technical question in a hurry. Peter Amsden, Argyll, Scotland Researching Amsden World Wide Outline History: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~amsden Books I have written: http://www.btinternet.com/~amsden AllExperts: http://www.allexperts.com/displayExpert.asp?Expert=38044 Never dump originals - they may be all that is left after the computer age.

Dear All, Many thanks for all the contributions to the problem. I have shown Jane KNIGHT's relationships as // (1) Frederick ONGLEY and her later marriage as =(2) Alfred COX, and the children so numbered. See http://www.beeptwo.com/familyhistory/knightcov.html All the best, Peter Cox

Hi I have forwarded the Publishers' e-mail to Peter, as there does not seem to be an Editor. Edna - Ottawa --- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Amsden" <amsden@btinternet.com> > To: <SOG-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 8:28 AM > Subject: [SoG] Society Magazine > > > Can someone please tell me if the Editor or the Graphic Designer of the > SOG > Magazine can be contacted via email. > > I need the answer to a small technical question in a hurry. > > > Peter Amsden, > Argyll, Scotland > > Researching Amsden World Wide > Outline History: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~amsden > Books I have written: http://www.btinternet.com/~amsden > AllExperts: http://www.allexperts.com/displayExpert.asp?Expert=38044 > > Never dump originals - they may be all that is left after the computer > age. > >

In message <2qvkr1pg25oaksi7phvmtk62ag904udi1f@4ax.com>, John Addis-Smith <genl@addisgen.com> writes >On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 10:19:17 +0000, Peter R Wood <peter-wood@mcb.net> >wrote: >>I am new to your list and I am sorry if this is a daft question but can >>I read past correspondence - has it been archived anywhere? > >If you want to search a Rootsweb Mailing List go to: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >and enter the name of the mailing list - in this case: > SOG-UK >Alternatively go directly to: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=SOG-UK > >If you want to browse all the entries of a Rootsweb Mailing List go >to: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >and enter the name of the mailing list, or find the name from the >alpha listing provided. >Alternatively go directly to: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOG-UK/ > > >Options in the horizontal menu at the top of these Rootsweb pages >enable one to find listings of the mailing lists and other Rootsweb >facilities. > > >Cheers, John > >John Addis-Smith >Thurleigh, Bedfordshire, England > John Thank you very much for that, much appreciated. Regards Peter

On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 10:19:17 +0000, Peter R Wood <peter-wood@mcb.net> wrote: >I am new to your list and I am sorry if this is a daft question but can >I read past correspondence - has it been archived anywhere? If you want to search a Rootsweb Mailing List go to: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter the name of the mailing list - in this case: SOG-UK Alternatively go directly to: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=SOG-UK If you want to browse all the entries of a Rootsweb Mailing List go to: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ and enter the name of the mailing list, or find the name from the alpha listing provided. Alternatively go directly to: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOG-UK/ Options in the horizontal menu at the top of these Rootsweb pages enable one to find listings of the mailing lists and other Rootsweb facilities. Cheers, John John Addis-Smith Thurleigh, Bedfordshire, England

Hello I am new to your list and I am sorry if this is a daft question but can I read past correspondence - has it been archived anywhere? Researching: WOOD of Bramley, Leeds and subsequently Bradford and thereabouts WILLIAMSON of Guiseley, Rawdon and Bradford all in West Yorkshire. Peter R Wood in the Isle of Man

Peter COX wrote: > Hoping for the informed replies such requests as this receive on the SOG > List! I agree with Hector, at least in essence. The problem is that FH recording is still hooked on recording family groups as husband-wife-child whereas the truth is, now as ever, actually just father-mother-child. Although most programs (and other recording systems) use the term 'marriage' it should really be treated as simply 'child producing relationship'. Your Jane needs to be shown with a (1) and a (2) even though the first was not a marriage (in the legal sense). Whether, for (1), you use '=' or some other symbol is a different debate! HNY, Malcolm.

I've looked at http://www.beeptwo.com/familyhistory/knightcov.html The indentation is not the problem, just the illegitimacy. It is not unknown for ancestors to have illegitimate children by a series of partners, and I'd have thought the way to deal with it, in your format, would be to treat them as if they were regularly married, i.e. (1) Jane (1851 - 1935) (1) had a child(/children) by Frederick ONGLEY (18xx-18xx) (2) married Alfred COX (1851 - 1914) on dd Mmm 18xx. (1) Alice Jane KNIGHT (1872 - 1962) = William CLAYSON (1870 - 1945) (2) Alfred John COX (1885 - 1954) = Annie Elizabeth WEST (1882 - 1961) Alfred John William COX = Irene FITT Hector Davie

Dear All, On my website (see below) I use a form of indented narrative to show couples and their children. As most of my ancestors behaved themselves, or at least got married, this form of presentation is neat and I hope fairly obvious. A problem arises when a couple got married, produced children BUT one of them had an illegitimate child from a previous relationship. For example Jane KNIGHT (1851-1935) had a daughter, Alice Jane KNIGHT (1872-1962) by a Frederick ONGLEY. Jane went on to marry Alfred COX (1851-1914) and have a further child, Alfred John COX (1885-1954). Alice Jane KNIGHT went on to marry William CLAYSON but fortunately they had no children. How is this normally shown using indented narrative? What I have done is on my website - follow KNIGHT of Worth, Sussex Charlwood, Surrey. Hoping for the informed replies such requests as this receive on the SOG List! Regards, Peter Cox Sussex ancestors at http://www.sussexancestors.co.uk AUSTEN, BARTRUP, BUNN, CHATFIELD, COX, EEDE, ELLIS, HEMSLEY, KNIGHT, LANGRIDGE, WEST

Any info? tia Bryan

On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:03:00 -0000, "Joan Vinall" <jvinall@onetel.com> wrote: >Frank, Not a bad idea, will look into it. Will contact Taunton and find out >if Fiche are available or whatever when I come back from the Lake District >after New Year. Somerset Record Office do operate a parish register microfiche copying service at £2 per fiche. We used it last year for several Somerset parishes. One has to wait a few weeks for the fiche to be produced. The relevant text from the Record Office's web site at: http://www.somerset.gov.uk/archives/ is under 'Services we Provide' and then 'Reprographics' as follows: 'The Record Office operates a service for copying microfiche of parish registers. Charges for Diazo Duplicate 16mm microfiche: Fiche £2.00 each Order charge £9.00 per overall order P&P (UK) £1.00 per batch of up to 50 fiche P&P (overseas) £2.50 per batch of up to 50 fiche We do not keep diazo fiche in stock. Batches of fiche for several orders are sent away for copying and therefore customer delivery may take up to 4 weeks. For details of the ordering process please contact: reprographics@somerset.gov.uk Please include details of the parish(es) for which you wish to purchase microfiche.' Cossington Parish registers are available from 1675 . . . Good luck! Cheers, John

Frank, Not a bad idea, will look into it. Will contact Taunton and find out if Fiche are available or whatever when I come back from the Lake District after New Year. A safe and Happy New Year to all at Charterhouse Buildings and nationwide. Joan Vinall

I have a suggestion for Joan Vinall - why not sponsor the Society getting the parish registers for Cossington. The stages are: 1. The would be sponsor tells the Librarian at the SoG that they could be interested in the idea. 2. The Librarian gets a quotation form the local record office or other holder of the master film/fiche assuming it is possible to get film/fiche for the particular parish. 3. The sponsor is told of the cost. 4. Sponsor pays half the cost and the SoG pays the other half. 5. SoG orders the material and advises sponsor when it arrives. 6. Sponsor has 3 months use of the registers either at the SoG or at home. 7. At the end of the 3 months, the registers are available for general use at Charterhouse Buildings. Definitely a win/win situation for both parties. Frank Hardy -----Original Message----- From: Joan Vinall [mailto:jvinall@onetel.com] Sent: 29 December 2005 10:32 To: SOG-UK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SoG] 1841 and 1851 online census services I thought I would let this list know how useful my 72 hour access to Britishorigins has been over this holiday period. A 20 year 'brick wall' now has a door, thanks to Britishorgins.com. There seems not to be a marriage at the GRO indexes for my Great Grandparents CAROLINE HUNT and CHARLES FLAY. Caroline without fail on later Census gave her birthplace as Bridgwater, Somerset, but I had never tracked her down, except to find that there are at least 3 Caroline HUNT, all aged 14 or 15 on the 1851 Census. 1861 has Caroline and Charles FLAY married and living at home with Father-in-Law Thomas FLAY in Frog Lane, Calne, Wiltshire. I have a Disk from Archived CD books of 1841 Bridgewater, but after a painstaking search with no index failed to find any suitable HUNT family. Therefore access to 1841 was quite exciting as I found her aged 4. That Census was taken on June 6, 1841, which means she was 4 years old before June of that year, so probably born before the first Registration in 1837, but I am very grateful for this progress after many frustrating years. I will now have to find some way of consulting the Parish Registers of COSSINGTON. Joan Vinall 3839 in Berkshire also researching VINALL in London and Sussex BOSWELL in Oxfordshire and Surrey.