Nancy As your grandfather was reasonably senior, the RAMC Museum may have some information about him. The will not have his service record but its probable that information may be held in any histories which proliferated after the Great War. The museum is at Ash Vale, Aldershot and their web site is at http://www.ams-museum.org.uk/museum/contact-us/ They may make a charge for researching their records but an email to the Curator should elicit the situation. It may also be possible to find Earl Haigh's despatch, TNA at Kew would be the starting point. Good hunting. Blair

> From: Colin Moretti > Sent: 22 June 2011 13:16 > > I've used the Vision of Britain website > (www.visionofbritain.org.uk/) > on a number of occasions in the past, and very useful it has been; > however, trying to access it every day this week I have been > unsuccessful. Does anyone know if there are problems with the site, > or has it shut down or moved? It must be a technical problem, as no announcement has been made on the GBHGIS list where information about Vision of Britain and the wider Great Britain Historical GIS project is posted. The last announcement (in April) was that they had secured a funding to start work on adding earlier administrative units - ancient parishes, hundreds, manors and vills. Andrew -- Andrew Millard - [email protected] Bodimeade genealogy:   http://www.one-name.org/homepages/bodimeade/ My family history:     http://www.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/ GenUKI Middx + London: http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/MDX/ + ../LND/

Hello list I've used the Vision of Britain website (www.visionofbritain.org.uk/) on a number of occasions in the past, and very useful it has been; however, trying to access it every day this week I have been unsuccessful. Does anyone know if there are problems with the site, or has it shut down or moved? Thanks Colin

You could hunt down the war diaries at the National Archives to see if there is any mention of the activity in which he was involved. I've tried that for a friend whose grandfather too was mentioned in dispatches, to no avail unfortunately, but he was an 'other ranks' maybe 'cos your man is an officer and obited in the Times that there might be something? But then again looking at your post perhaps all these records don't exist? Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:01 AM Subject: SOG-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 76 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Mentioned in dispatches (Keith Atkinson) > 2. Re: Mentioned in dispatches (MILLARD A.R.) > 3. Re: Mentioned in dispatches(MID) (Keith Atkinson) > 4. Mentioned in Despatches (bush.lyme) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:13:19 +0100 > From: "Keith Atkinson" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Mentioned in dispatches > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > Grandfather was in the Royal Army Medical Corps, most of which's records > were destroyed by fire. His entry in Peterkins Army records says; > > " Despatches 10 Jul 19". That is a Mentioned In Despatches [MID] and on > his > British War Medal, there is an "oak leaf" which apparently signifies an > MID. > In 1919 he was still in charge of a Military Hospital in France so he must > have been MID for his work there. The citation was probably lost when that > fire destroyed the RAMC records. But is there any where else I could look? > Nancy Atkinson > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:55:43 +0100 > From: "MILLARD A.R." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Mentioned in dispatches > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >> From: Keith Atkinson >> Sent: 21 June 2011 09:13 >> >> Grandfather was in the Royal Army Medical Corps, most of which's >> records were destroyed by fire. His entry in Peterkins Army >> records says; >> >> " Despatches 10 Jul 19". That is a Mentioned In Despatches [MID] > ... >> The citation was probably lost when that fire destroyed the RAMC >> records. But is there any where else I could look? > > Mentions in despatches appear in the London Gazette > (www.london-gazette.co.uk) and will probably also appear in The Times. You > may not get anything more than his name, but sometimes The Times gives > other details. > > Andrew > -- > Andrew Millard - [email protected] > Bodimeade genealogy:?? http://www.one-name.org/homepages/bodimeade/ > My family history:???? http://www.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/ > GenUKI Middx + London: http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/MDX/ + ../LND/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:46:10 +0100 > From: "Keith Atkinson" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Mentioned in dispatches(MID) > To: "J K gen" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Many thanks for the suggestions everyone . His name was Lt Col Ernest G > Ffrench MD FRCSE MRCP and he was with the RAMC in the Boer War, Jamaica, > India & in WW1 he ran field hospitals 51 & 56 at Etaples,+ serving at Vimy > Ridge,Bethune & Arras. His photos show the Oakleaf emblem for MIDs > > The Times carried his obituary in full 2 Aug 1937 stating he was twice > mentioned in despatches. The Times online(Search on "Mentioned...") has > long > lists of MIDs in Egypt,Mesopotamia,Archangel,Murmansk,Italy,Sudan etc but > strangely there appears to be no list for France where presumably the bulk > of MIDs were earned. The London Gazette has various references to his > service but no mention of an MID. > > Of course what one would dearly like is the actual citation but the > complete lack of service records for RAMC personnel mean this source is > not > available. But presumably the citations were sent somewhere in the British > Army so surely there must be a copy somewhere? > > > > > Mentions in Despatches (None) > First listed in LG of 9th May 1843. > > Sometimes referred to as MID and physically denoted by an oak leaf > emblem. > > Prior to fourth quarter 1916 these were not indexed and were included > in the dispatches themselves. > > After this time they are listings of the names of those commended > with > where and when - not why. > > > Nancy Atkinson(Nee Ffrench) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J K gen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:44 AM > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Mentioned in dispatches > > > I would expect to find it in the London Gazette and/or The Times > Archive Online. Former has free access, latter available through some > local libraries. You didn't give a name, so searching is difficult. > > JK > > On 21 June 2011 09:13, Keith Atkinson <[email protected]> > wrote: >> Grandfather was in the Royal Army Medical Corps, most of which's records >> were destroyed by fire. His entry in Peterkins Army records says; >> >> " Despatches 10 Jul 19". That is a Mentioned In Despatches [MID] and on >> his >> British War Medal, there is an "oak leaf" which apparently signifies an >> MID. >> In 1919 he was still in charge of a Military Hospital in France so he >> must >> have been MID for his work there. The citation was probably lost when >> that >> fire destroyed the RAMC records. But is there any where else I could >> look? >> Nancy Atkinson >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:18:53 +0100 > From: "bush.lyme" <[email protected]> > Subject: [SOG-UK] Mentioned in Despatches > Cc: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > It is quite likely that there is no individual citation. The London > Gazette > dated 10 July 1919 is a supplement to the issue dated 8 July and states > that > it is a continuation of a list accompanying a despatch to the War Office > by > Haigh in March 1919. Given that the despatch was sent several months after > the cessation of hostilities the people "mentioned" were probably > recommended by their commanding officers for meritorious service rather > than > individual acts of gallantry. I met this situation while researching my > late father in law's service record in ww2. > Regards > > George Bush > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SOG-UK list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the SOG-UK mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SOG-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 76 > ************************************* >

It is quite likely that there is no individual citation. The London Gazette dated 10 July 1919 is a supplement to the issue dated 8 July and states that it is a continuation of a list accompanying a despatch to the War Office by Haigh in March 1919. Given that the despatch was sent several months after the cessation of hostilities the people "mentioned" were probably recommended by their commanding officers for meritorious service rather than individual acts of gallantry. I met this situation while researching my late father in law's service record in ww2. Regards George Bush

Many thanks for the suggestions everyone . His name was Lt Col Ernest G Ffrench MD FRCSE MRCP and he was with the RAMC in the Boer War, Jamaica, India & in WW1 he ran field hospitals 51 & 56 at Etaples,+ serving at Vimy Ridge,Bethune & Arras. His photos show the Oakleaf emblem for MIDs The Times carried his obituary in full 2 Aug 1937 stating he was twice mentioned in despatches. The Times online(Search on "Mentioned...") has long lists of MIDs in Egypt,Mesopotamia,Archangel,Murmansk,Italy,Sudan etc but strangely there appears to be no list for France where presumably the bulk of MIDs were earned. The London Gazette has various references to his service but no mention of an MID. Of course what one would dearly like is the actual citation but the complete lack of service records for RAMC personnel mean this source is not available. But presumably the citations were sent somewhere in the British Army so surely there must be a copy somewhere? Mentions in Despatches (None) First listed in LG of 9th May 1843. Sometimes referred to as MID and physically denoted by an oak leaf emblem. Prior to fourth quarter 1916 these were not indexed and were included in the dispatches themselves. After this time they are listings of the names of those commended with where and when - not why. Nancy Atkinson(Nee Ffrench) ----- Original Message ----- From: "J K gen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Mentioned in dispatches I would expect to find it in the London Gazette and/or The Times Archive Online. Former has free access, latter available through some local libraries. You didn't give a name, so searching is difficult. JK On 21 June 2011 09:13, Keith Atkinson <[email protected]> wrote: > Grandfather was in the Royal Army Medical Corps, most of which's records > were destroyed by fire. His entry in Peterkins Army records says; > > " Despatches 10 Jul 19". That is a Mentioned In Despatches [MID] and on > his > British War Medal, there is an "oak leaf" which apparently signifies an > MID. > In 1919 he was still in charge of a Military Hospital in France so he must > have been MID for his work there. The citation was probably lost when that > fire destroyed the RAMC records. But is there any where else I could look? > Nancy Atkinson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

> From: Keith Atkinson > Sent: 21 June 2011 09:13 > > Grandfather was in the Royal Army Medical Corps, most of which's > records were destroyed by fire. His entry in Peterkins Army > records says; > > " Despatches 10 Jul 19". That is a Mentioned In Despatches [MID] ... > The citation was probably lost when that fire destroyed the RAMC > records. But is there any where else I could look? Mentions in despatches appear in the London Gazette (www.london-gazette.co.uk) and will probably also appear in The Times. You may not get anything more than his name, but sometimes The Times gives other details. Andrew -- Andrew Millard - [email protected] Bodimeade genealogy:   http://www.one-name.org/homepages/bodimeade/ My family history:     http://www.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/ GenUKI Middx + London: http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/MDX/ + ../LND/

I would expect to find it in the London Gazette and/or The Times Archive Online. Former has free access, latter available through some local libraries. You didn't give a name, so searching is difficult. JK On 21 June 2011 09:13, Keith Atkinson <[email protected]> wrote: > Grandfather was in the Royal Army Medical Corps, most of which's records > were destroyed by fire. His entry in Peterkins Army records says; > > " Despatches 10 Jul 19". That is a Mentioned In Despatches [MID] and on his > British War Medal, there is an "oak leaf" which apparently signifies an MID. > In 1919 he was still in charge of a Military Hospital in France so he must > have been MID for his work there. The citation was probably lost when that > fire destroyed the RAMC records. But is there any where else I could look? > Nancy  Atkinson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Grandfather was in the Royal Army Medical Corps, most of which's records were destroyed by fire. His entry in Peterkins Army records says; " Despatches 10 Jul 19". That is a Mentioned In Despatches [MID] and on his British War Medal, there is an "oak leaf" which apparently signifies an MID. In 1919 he was still in charge of a Military Hospital in France so he must have been MID for his work there. The citation was probably lost when that fire destroyed the RAMC records. But is there any where else I could look? Nancy Atkinson

Well thank you everyone. Mission accomplished. I used The Times online Archive (Free through my local library). There were indeed 2 events for debutantes--presentation to the King & the Debs ball. The list of those presented at Court is Official & comprehensive but its best to search by first name not surname--or by the mother who presented her daughter's name. The Ball attendees list is not complete only showing "leading lights". In the list of those presented are details of the girl and her mother's dresses! In my great aunt/grandmothers case both modestly acquired from Marshall & Snelgove. It must have been an expensive year for my poor grandfather! Once again Thank you! Nancy Atkinson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Earl" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] SOG-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 72 > On 18/06/2011, Alastair Ewart <[email protected]> wrote: >> If any help. I think people are getting mixed up. Two separate events. >> Presentation to the King and Queen Charlottes Ball. I too am interested >> in >> presentation to the king of a great aunt. I only found one list in the >> times >> Yours >> Alastair >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Nancy Frey" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 5:41 PM >> Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] SOG-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 72 >> >> >>> Hi Nancy, >>> >>> As one of my Rootsweb fellow Listers always says "Remember GOOGLE is >>> your >>> friend!" >>> >>> I just put in English Debutantes 1930 and came up with many sites to >>> look >>> at. Did you try that? >>> >>> I've never researched the topic before myself, but it appears that the >>> yearly function is called >>> Queen Charlotte's Ball and some of the sites have photos taken during >>> the >>> 1930's. I would also >>> search "Queen Charlotte's Ball". A search engine only looks for the >>> words >>> >>> you ask for so sometimes >>> you have to be creative. >>> >>> Happy researching. >>> >>> Nancy Frey >>> Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA >>> OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset >>> Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group >>> Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Keith Atkinson" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:49 PM >>> Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] SOG-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 72 >>> >>> >>>> Ok here's a really basic question! Where would I find lists of >>>> "debutantes" >>>> presented to the King in the 1930's? I believe my great aunt was one >>>> Theres >>>> nothing in The Times Yrs Nancy Atkinson >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

unsubscribe On 18/06/2011, Patricia Earl <[email protected]> wrote: > On 18/06/2011, Alastair Ewart <[email protected]> wrote: >> If any help. I think people are getting mixed up. Two separate events. >> Presentation to the King and Queen Charlottes Ball. I too am interested >> in >> presentation to the king of a great aunt. I only found one list in the >> times >> Yours >> Alastair >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Nancy Frey" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 5:41 PM >> Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] SOG-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 72 >> >> >>> Hi Nancy, >>> >>> As one of my Rootsweb fellow Listers always says "Remember GOOGLE is >>> your >>> friend!" >>> >>> I just put in English Debutantes 1930 and came up with many sites to >>> look >>> at. Did you try that? >>> >>> I've never researched the topic before myself, but it appears that the >>> yearly function is called >>> Queen Charlotte's Ball and some of the sites have photos taken during >>> the >>> 1930's. I would also >>> search "Queen Charlotte's Ball". A search engine only looks for the >>> words >>> >>> you ask for so sometimes >>> you have to be creative. >>> >>> Happy researching. >>> >>> Nancy Frey >>> Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA >>> OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset >>> Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group >>> Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Keith Atkinson" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:49 PM >>> Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] SOG-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 72 >>> >>> >>>> Ok here's a really basic question! Where would I find lists of >>>> "debutantes" >>>> presented to the King in the 1930's? I believe my great aunt was one >>>> Theres >>>> nothing in The Times Yrs Nancy Atkinson >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >

On 18/06/2011, Alastair Ewart <[email protected]> wrote: > If any help. I think people are getting mixed up. Two separate events. > Presentation to the King and Queen Charlottes Ball. I too am interested in > presentation to the king of a great aunt. I only found one list in the times > Yours > Alastair > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nancy Frey" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 5:41 PM > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] SOG-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 72 > > >> Hi Nancy, >> >> As one of my Rootsweb fellow Listers always says "Remember GOOGLE is your >> friend!" >> >> I just put in English Debutantes 1930 and came up with many sites to look >> at. Did you try that? >> >> I've never researched the topic before myself, but it appears that the >> yearly function is called >> Queen Charlotte's Ball and some of the sites have photos taken during the >> 1930's. I would also >> search "Queen Charlotte's Ball". A search engine only looks for the words >> >> you ask for so sometimes >> you have to be creative. >> >> Happy researching. >> >> Nancy Frey >> Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA >> OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset >> Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group >> Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Keith Atkinson" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] SOG-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 72 >> >> >>> Ok here's a really basic question! Where would I find lists of >>> "debutantes" >>> presented to the King in the 1930's? I believe my great aunt was one >>> Theres >>> nothing in The Times Yrs Nancy Atkinson >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

If any help. I think people are getting mixed up. Two separate events. Presentation to the King and Queen Charlottes Ball. I too am interested in presentation to the king of a great aunt. I only found one list in the times Yours Alastair ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Frey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] SOG-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 72 > Hi Nancy, > > As one of my Rootsweb fellow Listers always says "Remember GOOGLE is your > friend!" > > I just put in English Debutantes 1930 and came up with many sites to look > at. Did you try that? > > I've never researched the topic before myself, but it appears that the > yearly function is called > Queen Charlotte's Ball and some of the sites have photos taken during the > 1930's. I would also > search "Queen Charlotte's Ball". A search engine only looks for the words > you ask for so sometimes > you have to be creative. > > Happy researching. > > Nancy Frey > Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA > OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset > Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group > Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Atkinson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:49 PM > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] SOG-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 72 > > >> Ok here's a really basic question! Where would I find lists of >> "debutantes" >> presented to the King in the 1930's? I believe my great aunt was one >> Theres >> nothing in The Times Yrs Nancy Atkinson >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for the reassurance. Actually I learned many years ago that when faced with a task outside your comfort zone, the first thing to do is find out if you can call on the services of someone with specialised knowledge and /or talent. So although I have already looked for family connections, including witnesses, I will take your advice and try again, but a little more thoroughly this time. Regards George

Hi Nancy, As one of my Rootsweb fellow Listers always says "Remember GOOGLE is your friend!" I just put in English Debutantes 1930 and came up with many sites to look at. Did you try that? I've never researched the topic before myself, but it appears that the yearly function is called Queen Charlotte's Ball and some of the sites have photos taken during the 1930's. I would also search "Queen Charlotte's Ball". A search engine only looks for the words you ask for so sometimes you have to be creative. Happy researching. Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Atkinson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] SOG-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 72 > Ok here's a really basic question! Where would I find lists of "debutantes" > presented to the King in the 1930's? I believe my great aunt was one Theres > nothing in The Times Yrs Nancy Atkinson >

I believe these lists were published in the Court Circular? So the Times archive online may show what you want. Best regards Blair

There are some details listed on The Times Online, I used "Debutantes Ball" and restricted dates to 1930-39 for a search. Not all Deb Balls were at the Palace though. They were held in various hotels etc. For example the Court Circular for published 17 May 1934 says that Prince George attended the Debutantes Ball at the Dorchester Hotel in aid of the King Edward Memorial Hospital, Ealing. Then goes on to list attendees and acceptees - who may not have been the same thing! JK On 17 June 2011 22:49, Keith Atkinson <[email protected]> wrote: > Ok here's a really basic question! Where would I find lists of "debutantes" > presented to the King in the 1930's? I believe my great aunt was one Theres > nothing in The Times  Yrs Nancy Atkinson > > On 17 June 2011 21:24, Frank Hardy <[email protected]> wrote: > >> To reassure George Bush and others, this is absolutely the right place to >> raise a query like the one about Buckhurst Hill parish. The Society started >> this mailing list precisely to provide a forum where genealogical questions >> could be raised, answered and debated, >> >> As one of the team who deal with advice queries within Charterhouse >> Buildings and at Family History Fairs, we work on the principle that no >> question is stupid. If you do not know something, for goodness sake ask - >> the only stupid thing is NOT asking for help. >> >> Incidentally, my own feeling is very definitely that there is some family >> connection with Buckhurst Hill, probably that the family of the bride lived >> there, either parents or a sister.  I would look at the witnesses of the >> marriage (if recorded) and try and make a connection. >> >> Frank Hardy

Ok here's a really basic question! Where would I find lists of "debutantes" presented to the King in the 1930's? I believe my great aunt was one Theres nothing in The Times Yrs Nancy Atkinson On 17 June 2011 21:24, Frank Hardy <[email protected]> wrote: > To reassure George Bush and others, this is absolutely the right place to > raise a query like the one about Buckhurst Hill parish. The Society started > this mailing list precisely to provide a forum where genealogical questions > could be raised, answered and debated, > > As one of the team who deal with advice queries within Charterhouse > Buildings and at Family History Fairs, we work on the principle that no > question is stupid. If you do not know something, for goodness sake ask - > the only stupid thing is NOT asking for help. > > Incidentally, my own feeling is very definitely that there is some family > connection with Buckhurst Hill, probably that the family of the bride lived > there, either parents or a sister. I would look at the witnesses of the > marriage (if recorded) and try and make a connection. > > Frank Hardy > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

To reassure George Bush and others, this is absolutely the right place to raise a query like the one about Buckhurst Hill parish. The Society started this mailing list precisely to provide a forum where genealogical questions could be raised, answered and debated, As one of the team who deal with advice queries within Charterhouse Buildings and at Family History Fairs, we work on the principle that no question is stupid. If you do not know something, for goodness sake ask - the only stupid thing is NOT asking for help. Incidentally, my own feeling is very definitely that there is some family connection with Buckhurst Hill, probably that the family of the bride lived there, either parents or a sister. I would look at the witnesses of the marriage (if recorded) and try and make a connection. Frank Hardy

Hi Andrew It is certainly possible that Nancy Viney was servant to someone with houses in both Soho and Buckhurst Hill and I will try to follow that one up. Thomas Shield was a printer so I think it much less likely that he lived and worked in Buckhurst Hill at the time of his marriage. Thanks for your help George