Tim, In your original note you referred to the following site so I'm guessing that you have already seen their 2011 software review .... if not .... http://genealogy-software-review.toptenreviews.com/mac-genealogy-software/ I can not vouch for the "independence" of the above site/feature but that said I have no reason to doubt it either, however, one wouldn't be surprised if income was received from 'click through to buy individual products'. For those that haven't seen it, the site appears to have done a decent and comprehensive review with the Olympic ceremony being 1)Family Tree, 2) Reunion 3) MacFamilyTree.... Given that the products outside of these three reveal significant gaps in features and product support without any cost benefit, the medalist are probably worthy of focus. Perhaps the important point here is that there is a very detailed review behind each product.... Also in these type of comparisons, where products are all much of a muchness the important point is not which one is rated top but picking the one that works for the purchaser and continues to do so after they buy. So people might balk at the cost of Reunion or be sold on it's exclusive MAC focus, longevity, and being the top ranked support and that allegedly it is the most used by MAC users (that comes from Reunion). I think Laurence Harris makes an excellent point re Web based applications especially as at the entry level they are free and allow people to put a toe in the water (analogy - and good for those who typically join the gym on 2nd January and go twice thereafter..... okay Laurence I'm teasing). That said, collectively these sites have loads of users and MyHeritage is one of many that can be listed and possibly demonstrated (as a generic example) but not used in the package comparison exercise. Can you make the software providers work for you? Perhaps you should take up Laurence's offer of help and he could organise a person to perform demonstrations. Additionally you could invite representatives from the three software packages to perform demonstrations for you (but set them the same demo exercise). Visitors could then 'independently' verify the sales pitch with on the ground SOG members who are familiar with each product and only have their genius and bias to declare. Rosemary makes a very good point about running Windows on a MAC and Family Tree Maker. If I were switching genealogy software, ease of conversion would be my top question once I had arrived at the top three packages. This is highlighted by Rosemary's experience and your experience and comments re GEDCOM are invaluable. The sun is shining here in Lausanne, Switzerland, so it would be rude not to take advantage of a local glass of something at the lake. Cheers, PS. I have conflicting numbers for market share ..... it is really number of users per package and it's not independent but the three packages mentioned above appear to account for the lion share of MAC users (allegedly) - web based usage aside. I wonder if Laurence knows where to get package and website market share details or up to-date number of current active users (NOT visits to website). Mike Flaherty [email protected]

On 12 Sep at 18:27, Mike Flaherty <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Tim, > > From my previous note to you and your response I suspect we probably > > tackle certain subjects from different start points (me, what is > > the overall objective, what is my target audience and what are the > > likely requirements of that audience) so with that in mind ...... > > Let us say that there are 3 practical categories of people who will be > interested in your event .... A) Mac user using existing genealogy > software - they probably want to know if there is a better package or > if they have what they consider the best, to understand how they could > make better use of the software > > B) Mac user who does not currently use existing genealogy and wants > advice ... Nay more, a strong recommendation on what to buy > > C) A PC user who uses existing genealogy software and is thinking of > moving to a Mac in the near future and wants to know if their existing > package is compatible with a Mac or if they went to new software on a > Mac what would be recommended and what the data conversion > possibilities are > > I would take the various software packages and apply various filters > .... By way of example ... If the package didn't work on the latest > version of Mac's software (within release not version) and probably on > an iPad - I would not cover them as the product software was clearly > not keeping pace with the strategic direction of Apple. > > I would only take packages that were current and had a top three > market share of Mac users however I would note and make reference to > market entrants less than 12 months old. > > You get my drift, the filter is to with currency. Good points, thanks. Do you know of a reputable source of market shares held by the various Mac genealogy packages? A quick google search produced nothing. > > Then on a kind of 80/20 rule for software; 80% of the time you'll use > around 20% of the function ..... and like wise given genealogical > requirements there will be say 5 major activities plus say 5 common > "visualisations" (views) on a screen plus say 5 major print format > requirements I would produce a grid giving a star rating ..... So of > the three packages they could have a best at "X" or/and "Y" and an > overall best for function and best for price .... Yes I know it is not > scientific.... And then there is the problem of "I know what I like"! People get used to one program and then find all other programs to be unnatural. I don't know how you score for that, but it is the most common criticism of other programs. > You could tack on "where to go next" ... Websites and possibly help > contacts. Exactly. We should provide a list of sites that offer demo versions of the various programs. Perhaps some might wish to buy demo versions on a CD? > Last but not least - I would ask what would SOG like to get out of > the event.... Who is SoG? Are we SoG? If so we are deliberating here and will get as good an answer as anywhere. Apart from the fact that less than ten percent of members subscribe to this list. <snip for brevity> -- Tim Powys-Lybbe [email protected] for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:24:14 +0100, Tim Powys-Lybbe <[email protected]> wrote: > The problem with GEDCOM is that it is not a defined standard for > exchanging data between genealogy programs. I think that is a little unkind on the GEDCOM standard Tim. It does define a database structure but most software writers think their database structure is better and manage to include something that will not map cleanly. But maybe this sums it up better ... <URL:http://xkcd.com/927/> = Malcolm. -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

On 12 Sep at 22:25, Rosemary Morgan <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Tim, > > I, too, applaud this initiative. As a longtime family history > researcher and user of Family Tree Maker, I have recently switched to > a MacBook Pro. Initially I purchased Reunion (as FTM for Mac got such > bad reviews) but have had trouble in converting my old gedcom files > satisfactorily (maybe your Mac event might help me here). The problem with GEDCOM is that it is not a defined standard for exchanging data between genealogy programs. Worse, my suspicion is that the various manufacturers deliberately don't make their programs do any exchange fully so that you cannot escape from their clutches. The Master Genealogist (TMG) had a separate program that took your source files and pulled those into TMG. I tried this once and, eventually, it worked fine. But I did not like TMG! (I eventually went for buying a Mac and Reunion which too would do a transfer from my Genealogist source files and had the benefit of no learning curve.) > So in the meantime I have very successfully installed Windows XP on a > virtual PC within my MacBook Pro, so that I can run my old Windows > Family Tree Maker. This is to give me the breathing space to make the > transition to Reunion. As I also use a large screen with a separate > keyboard, I can run the two "windows" - FTM in Windows and everything > else on my Mac - side by side. I can move completely seamlessly > between them both, using a piece of software called VM Fusion. I > would be happy to talk about my experience if you thought it might be > of interest. At least you are indeed doing genealogy on a Mac so this comes under the general title and many thanks for the offer. (Watch out for an e-mail on details.) <snip for brevity> -- Tim Powys-Lybbe [email protected] for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/

Hi Tim, I, too, applaud this initiative. As a longtime family history researcher and user of Family Tree Maker, I have recently switched to a MacBook Pro. Initially I purchased Reunion (as FTM for Mac got such bad reviews) but have had trouble in converting my old gedcom files satisfactorily (maybe your Mac event might help me here). So in the meantime I have very successfully installed Windows XP on a virtual PC within my MacBook Pro, so that I can run my old Windows Family Tree Maker. This is to give me the breathing space to make the transition to Reunion. As I also use a large screen with a separate keyboard, I can run the two "windows" - FTM in Windows and everything else on my Mac - side by side. I can move completely seamlessly between them both, using a piece of software called VM Fusion. I would be happy to talk about my experience if you thought it might be of interest. I actually think it is wonderful, the best of both worlds! Rosemary Morgan London Roots Research www.londonrootsresearch.blogspot.com On 10/09/2011 10:11, "Tim Powys-Lybbe" <[email protected]> wrote: >On 10 Sep at 9:05, Mike Flaherty <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The move regarding Apple (not just Mac).... Reunion works on the range >> of Apple devices, Mac, iPad, iPhone; is to be applauded. Given the >> market share Apple has of the Under 30s perhaps SOG has fallen upon a >> direction that will eventually attract to Genealogy, in general, >> a new wave of interest. The real challenge for SOG (as always) is what >> marketing strategy to employ to get numbers through the i-door. >> Perhaps the way to go is pick just one program - Reunion say - >> specialise and collaborate with the manufacturer to create the most >> beneficial symbiotic relationship. Good luck. Mike > >Interesting, and thanks for the good wishes. > >I wonder at this stage whether it would be right to restrict ourselves >to one system? I remember being told some years ago that the Society >was recommending Generations (which I don't think was true) and a few >years later, Generations was sold to a new owner who promptly ceased all >development and gave the appearance of having bought it solely to >cannibalise its market share. So I would hesitate before suggesting >going down this route, never mind the fact that we need to be open to >all comers. > >Nevetherless the interesting thing is that all members so far seem to be >Reunion users, though I have had one volunteer for iFamily. I am still >looking for volunteers for other Mac (and ipad and iphone/ipod) systems >and will shortly widen the appeal by going to other lists. > >-- >Tim Powys-Lybbe [email protected] > for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Tim, >From my previous note to you and your response I suspect we probably tackle certain subjects from different start points (me, what is the overall objective, what is my target audience and what are the likely requirements of that audience) so with that in mind ...... Let us say that there are 3 practical categories of people who will be interested in your event .... A) Mac user using existing genealogy software - they probably want to know if there is a better package or if they have what they consider the best, to understand how they could make better use of the software B) Mac user who does not currently use existing genealogy and wants advice ... Nay more, a strong recommendation on what to buy C) A PC user who uses existing genealogy software and is thinking of moving to a Mac in the near future and wants to know if their existing package is compatible with a Mac or if they went to new software on a Mac what would be recommended and what the data conversion possibilities are I would take the various software packages and apply various filters .... By way of example ... If the package didn't work on the latest version of Mac's software (within release not version) and probably on an iPad - I would not cover them as the product software was clearly not keeping pace with the strategic direction of Apple. I would only take packages that were current and had a top three market share of Mac users however I would note and make reference to market entrants less than 12 months old. You get my drift, the filter is to with currency. Then on a kind of 80/20 rule for software; 80% of the time you'll use around 20% of the function ..... and like wise given genealogical requirements there will be say 5 major activities plus say 5 common "visualisations" (views) on a screen plus say 5 major print format requirements I would produce a grid giving a star rating ..... So of the three packages they could have a best at "X" or/and "Y" and an overall best for function and best for price .... Yes I know it is not scientific.... You could tack on "where to go next" ... Websites and possibly help contacts. Last but not least - I would ask what would SOG like to get out of the event.... and meld that into the above ..... I'm trying to be helpful, honest! Sent from my Launch Pad On 9 Sep 2011, at 14:11, Tim Powys-Lybbe <[email protected]> wrote: > With the increasing popularity of the Mac, the Society of Genealogists > is proposing to organise an event in London, England on the genealogy > programs for the Mac and I am coordinating this. > > We have several programs available: > iFamily > Gramps > MacFamilyTree > PAW2U > Reunion > and even Family Tree Maker (for Mac) > and there may be a few more (see > <http://www.macgenealogy.org/mac-genealogy-software/>). > > What I am thinking of is that we should first of all demonstrate as many > of these as possible. This needs people to do the demonstrating. I can > do Reunion but am not familiar with the others. Can anyone else who > uses any of these other programs please get in touch with me so that we > can explore the possibilities further. > > IN addition to this, we should provide time for workshops on the > different programs. The people attending would be able to ask questions > about using their program and the Expert would endeavour to answer > these, all in open session. We would need volunteers for the Expert > roles, so again please get in touch with me. > > Any comments on the content or viability of this proposal, please > discuss this right here. > > (Don't be surprised if you see this appeal for help on a few other > lists. But you saw it here first.) > > -- > Tim Powys-Lybbe [email protected] > for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you go to the British Library website and search for "Parliamentary Constituencies and their Registers since 1832", you can download the revised edition of this work. It includes a summary of extensions to the parliamentary franchise (as does Jeremy Gibson's Electoral Registers 1832–1948). It reveals also that the British Library has scarcely any Irish registers up to 1922 and none for anywhere in Cork. Mr Gibson does not attempt to list pre-1922 Irish registers, so I must leave it to others to say what exists for the place in question. However, just to spread a bit more gloom, I can add that I asked an archivist at the Cork City Archives whether they had anything in the way of rating records or voters' lists for the 1860s. "Not that early," was the answer. Jeremy Wilkes

Are there Electoral Rolls available for Donnybrook, County Cork, ireland c1907? If so, who was eligible to vote? Thank you, April Wood Ashton.

On 10 Sep at 11:04, J K gen <[email protected]> wrote: > Have you asked lmug? Judy Good point, thanks. I've now paid my £15. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe [email protected] for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/

Have you asked lmug? Judy On 9 September 2011 13:11, Tim Powys-Lybbe <[email protected]> wrote: > With the increasing popularity of the Mac, the Society of Genealogists > is proposing to organise an event in London, England on the genealogy > programs for the Mac and I am coordinating this. > > We have several programs available: >  iFamily >  Gramps >  MacFamilyTree >  PAW2U >  Reunion >  and even Family Tree Maker (for Mac) > and there may be a few more (see > <http://www.macgenealogy.org/mac-genealogy-software/>). >

On 10 Sep at 9:05, Mike Flaherty <[email protected]> wrote: > The move regarding Apple (not just Mac).... Reunion works on the range > of Apple devices, Mac, iPad, iPhone; is to be applauded. Given the > market share Apple has of the Under 30s perhaps SOG has fallen upon a > direction that will eventually attract to Genealogy, in general, > a new wave of interest. The real challenge for SOG (as always) is what > marketing strategy to employ to get numbers through the i-door. > Perhaps the way to go is pick just one program - Reunion say - > specialise and collaborate with the manufacturer to create the most > beneficial symbiotic relationship. Good luck. Mike Interesting, and thanks for the good wishes. I wonder at this stage whether it would be right to restrict ourselves to one system? I remember being told some years ago that the Society was recommending Generations (which I don't think was true) and a few years later, Generations was sold to a new owner who promptly ceased all development and gave the appearance of having bought it solely to cannibalise its market share. So I would hesitate before suggesting going down this route, never mind the fact that we need to be open to all comers. Nevetherless the interesting thing is that all members so far seem to be Reunion users, though I have had one volunteer for iFamily. I am still looking for volunteers for other Mac (and ipad and iphone/ipod) systems and will shortly widen the appeal by going to other lists. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe [email protected] for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/

The move regarding Apple (not just Mac).... Reunion works on the range of Apple devices, Mac, iPad, iPhone; is to be applauded. Given the market share Apple has of the Under 30s perhaps SOG has fallen upon a direction that will eventually attract to Genealogy, in general, a new wave of interest. The real challenge for SOG (as always) is what marketing strategy to employ to get numbers through the i-door. Perhaps the way to go is pick just one program - Reunion say - specialise and collaborate with the manufacturer to create the most beneficial symbiotic relationship. Good luck. Mike Sent from my Launch Pad On 9 Sep 2011, at 15:09, "B. Randell" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Tim: > > As a long time Mac user I was pleased to read of your plans. > > However, since REUNION is the only Mac genealogy program I currently use (I used to use PAF years ago), and being based in far away Newcastle, I'm afraid I can't provide anything beyond moral support. > > Cheers > > Brian > > On 9 Sep 2011, at 13:11, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > >> With the increasing popularity of the Mac, the Society of Genealogists >> is proposing to organise an event in London, England on the genealogy >> programs for the Mac and I am coordinating this. >> >> We have several programs available: >> iFamily >> Gramps >> MacFamilyTree >> PAW2U >> Reunion >> and even Family Tree Maker (for Mac) >> and there may be a few more (see >> <http://www.macgenealogy.org/mac-genealogy-software/>). >> >> What I am thinking of is that we should first of all demonstrate as many >> of these as possible. This needs people to do the demonstrating. I can >> do Reunion but am not familiar with the others. Can anyone else who >> uses any of these other programs please get in touch with me so that we >> can explore the possibilities further. >> >> IN addition to this, we should provide time for workshops on the >> different programs. The people attending would be able to ask questions >> about using their program and the Expert would endeavour to answer >> these, all in open session. We would need volunteers for the Expert >> roles, so again please get in touch with me. >> >> Any comments on the content or viability of this proposal, please >> discuss this right here. >> >> (Don't be surprised if you see this appeal for help on a few other >> lists. But you saw it here first.) >> >> -- >> Tim Powys-Lybbe [email protected] >> for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, > NE1 7RU, UK > EMAIL = [email protected] PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 > FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good news.  I use a Mac and wouldn't go back to a PC if you paid me. ________________________________ From: Ashton April <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 10 September 2011, 8:00 Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Genealogy on Macintosh Computers Dear Tim I am delighted to hear this news as with the market share of Mac users  increasing, their profile is improving.  Recognition by the SOG  may  also encourage manufacturers of genealogy soft ware to give some greater credence to our needs - for instance it would have been good to think that when the NBI CD was launched with such aplomb some years ago,  consideration had been  given to  us  Mac users - but  when I raised the query, I was informed that we were a minority !  However, who's to say that we are not  a well  educated, enlightened , informative and helpful group, well worth paying attention to!!      ........... but  perhaps we can hope for some improvement in the future? i will certainly be trying to get to 'the event' day. Sincerely, April Wood Ashton Membership No 036411 On 9 Sep 2011, at 13:11, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > With the increasing popularity of the Mac, the Society of Genealogists > is proposing to organise an event in London, England on the genealogy > programs for the Mac and I am coordinating this. > > We have several programs available: >  iFamily >  Gramps >  MacFamilyTree >  PAW2U >  Reunion >  and even Family Tree Maker (for Mac) > and there may be a few more (see > <http://www.macgenealogy.org/mac-genealogy-software/>). > > What I am thinking of is that we should first of all demonstrate as many > of these as possible.  This needs people to do the demonstrating.  I can > do Reunion but am not familiar with the others.  Can anyone else who > uses any of these other programs please get in touch with me so that we > can explore the possibilities further. > > IN addition to this, we should provide time for workshops on the > different programs.  The people attending would be able to ask questions > about using their program and the Expert would endeavour to answer > these, all in open session.  We would need volunteers for the Expert > roles, so again please get in touch with me. > > Any comments on the content or viability of this proposal, please > discuss this right here. > > (Don't be surprised if you see this appeal for help on a few other > lists.  But you saw it here first.) > > -- > Tim Powys-Lybbe                                          [email protected] >            for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Tim I am delighted to hear this news as with the market share of Mac users increasing, their profile is improving. Recognition by the SOG may also encourage manufacturers of genealogy soft ware to give some greater credence to our needs - for instance it would have been good to think that when the NBI CD was launched with such aplomb some years ago, consideration had been given to us Mac users - but when I raised the query, I was informed that we were a minority ! However, who's to say that we are not a well educated, enlightened , informative and helpful group, well worth paying attention to!! ........... but perhaps we can hope for some improvement in the future? i will certainly be trying to get to 'the event' day. Sincerely, April Wood Ashton Membership No 036411 On 9 Sep 2011, at 13:11, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > With the increasing popularity of the Mac, the Society of Genealogists > is proposing to organise an event in London, England on the genealogy > programs for the Mac and I am coordinating this. > > We have several programs available: > iFamily > Gramps > MacFamilyTree > PAW2U > Reunion > and even Family Tree Maker (for Mac) > and there may be a few more (see > <http://www.macgenealogy.org/mac-genealogy-software/>). > > What I am thinking of is that we should first of all demonstrate as many > of these as possible. This needs people to do the demonstrating. I can > do Reunion but am not familiar with the others. Can anyone else who > uses any of these other programs please get in touch with me so that we > can explore the possibilities further. > > IN addition to this, we should provide time for workshops on the > different programs. The people attending would be able to ask questions > about using their program and the Expert would endeavour to answer > these, all in open session. We would need volunteers for the Expert > roles, so again please get in touch with me. > > Any comments on the content or viability of this proposal, please > discuss this right here. > > (Don't be surprised if you see this appeal for help on a few other > lists. But you saw it here first.) > > -- > Tim Powys-Lybbe [email protected] > for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hooray, I too am a Reunuion user for the past 12 years - I have also toyed with i-Family recently and would be happy to help or attend - but do not pretend to be an expert. Martin Knightley -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Powys-Lybbe Sent: 09 September 2011 13:11 To: [email protected] Subject: [SOG-UK] Genealogy on Macintosh Computers With the increasing popularity of the Mac, the Society of Genealogists is proposing to organise an event in London, England on the genealogy programs for the Mac and I am coordinating this. We have several programs available: iFamily Gramps MacFamilyTree PAW2U Reunion and even Family Tree Maker (for Mac) and there may be a few more (see <http://www.macgenealogy.org/mac-genealogy-software/>). What I am thinking of is that we should first of all demonstrate as many of these as possible. This needs people to do the demonstrating. I can do Reunion but am not familiar with the others. Can anyone else who uses any of these other programs please get in touch with me so that we can explore the possibilities further. IN addition to this, we should provide time for workshops on the different programs. The people attending would be able to ask questions about using their program and the Expert would endeavour to answer these, all in open session. We would need volunteers for the Expert roles, so again please get in touch with me. Any comments on the content or viability of this proposal, please discuss this right here. (Don't be surprised if you see this appeal for help on a few other lists. But you saw it here first.) -- Tim Powys-Lybbe [email protected] for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hooray from me, too - I also hope to be able to attend, though again I only have ever used Reunion. Looking forward to this already. On 9 Sep 2011, at 13:11, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > With the increasing popularity of the Mac, the Society of Genealogists > is proposing to organise an event in London, England on the genealogy > programs for the Mac and I am coordinating this. >

Hooray, Recognition for Mac users at last from SoG. I very much hope to attend. I've only used Reunion and despite several years with it I'm sure I could get a lot more out of it - help and info. from an Expert would be great. Please keep us posted. Angela Hamilton On 9 Sep 2011, at 1:11 pm, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > With the increasing popularity of the Mac, the Society of Genealogists > is proposing to organise an event in London, England on the genealogy > programs for the Mac and I am coordinating this. > > We have several programs available: > iFamily > Gramps > MacFamilyTree > PAW2U > Reunion > and even Family Tree Maker (for Mac) > and there may be a few more (see > <http://www.macgenealogy.org/mac-genealogy-software/>). > > What I am thinking of is that we should first of all demonstrate as many > of these as possible. This needs people to do the demonstrating. I can > do Reunion but am not familiar with the others. Can anyone else who > uses any of these other programs please get in touch with me so that we > can explore the possibilities further. > > IN addition to this, we should provide time for workshops on the > different programs. The people attending would be able to ask questions > about using their program and the Expert would endeavour to answer > these, all in open session. We would need volunteers for the Expert > roles, so again please get in touch with me. > > Any comments on the content or viability of this proposal, please > discuss this right here. > > (Don't be surprised if you see this appeal for help on a few other > lists. But you saw it here first.) > > -- > Tim Powys-Lybbe [email protected] >

Hi Tim: As a long time Mac user I was pleased to read of your plans. However, since REUNION is the only Mac genealogy program I currently use (I used to use PAF years ago), and being based in far away Newcastle, I'm afraid I can't provide anything beyond moral support. Cheers Brian On 9 Sep 2011, at 13:11, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > With the increasing popularity of the Mac, the Society of Genealogists > is proposing to organise an event in London, England on the genealogy > programs for the Mac and I am coordinating this. > > We have several programs available: > iFamily > Gramps > MacFamilyTree > PAW2U > Reunion > and even Family Tree Maker (for Mac) > and there may be a few more (see > <http://www.macgenealogy.org/mac-genealogy-software/>). > > What I am thinking of is that we should first of all demonstrate as many > of these as possible. This needs people to do the demonstrating. I can > do Reunion but am not familiar with the others. Can anyone else who > uses any of these other programs please get in touch with me so that we > can explore the possibilities further. > > IN addition to this, we should provide time for workshops on the > different programs. The people attending would be able to ask questions > about using their program and the Expert would endeavour to answer > these, all in open session. We would need volunteers for the Expert > roles, so again please get in touch with me. > > Any comments on the content or viability of this proposal, please > discuss this right here. > > (Don't be surprised if you see this appeal for help on a few other > lists. But you saw it here first.) > > -- > Tim Powys-Lybbe [email protected] > for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, UK EMAIL = [email protected] PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell

With the increasing popularity of the Mac, the Society of Genealogists is proposing to organise an event in London, England on the genealogy programs for the Mac and I am coordinating this. We have several programs available: iFamily Gramps MacFamilyTree PAW2U Reunion and even Family Tree Maker (for Mac) and there may be a few more (see <http://www.macgenealogy.org/mac-genealogy-software/>). What I am thinking of is that we should first of all demonstrate as many of these as possible. This needs people to do the demonstrating. I can do Reunion but am not familiar with the others. Can anyone else who uses any of these other programs please get in touch with me so that we can explore the possibilities further. IN addition to this, we should provide time for workshops on the different programs. The people attending would be able to ask questions about using their program and the Expert would endeavour to answer these, all in open session. We would need volunteers for the Expert roles, so again please get in touch with me. Any comments on the content or viability of this proposal, please discuss this right here. (Don't be surprised if you see this appeal for help on a few other lists. But you saw it here first.) -- Tim Powys-Lybbe [email protected] for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/

Chris Hilton from the Wellcome Library thought members might be interested in a recent post on the WL blog about the indexing of records for Camberwell House Asylum and has asked me to pass it on Blog: Wellcome Library Post: Camberwell House Asylum Link: http://wellcomelibrary.blogspot.com/2011/09/camberwell-house-asylum.html Else Churchill