The obvious livery company is the Merchant Taylors. However as she was a mantua-maker, I presume this is late 17th or 18th century, a period over which the link between the company title and the trade of a member declined and almost disappeared, so it could be any company. You could look for the known apprentices as well, because their apprenticeship records will indicate the company of your ancestor as the master, and I guess you may have a better idea of the dates of those apprenticeships. If the relevant names are not in the Apprentices of Great Britain series via mySoG, then Cliff Webb's indexes (see http://www.origins.net/help/aboutbo-lonapps.aspx) might help eliminate possible companies and timespans before ploughing through records at the GL. Best wishes Andrew -- Andrew Millard - [email protected] Bodimeade genealogy:   http://www.one-name.org/homepages/bodimeade/ My family history:     http://www.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/ GenUKI Middx + London: http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/MDX/ + ../LND/ > From Carol Fisk > Sent: 06 January 2012 10:31 > > I'm chasing a female ancestor who was a mantua-maker. She took > several apprentices but is always listed just as a mantua-maker > with no livery company association. Her master was also listed > repeatedly as a mantua-maker. I'd like to find her indentures so I > can pinpoint her father but have no idea which companies to look > at. She doesn't show up online as anything other than a mantua- > maker so I need to plough through the undigitized records at the > Guildhall Library. Does anyone have any ideas about the most > likely companies for that trade? Thanks!

I'm chasing a female ancestor who was a mantua-maker. She took several apprentices but is always listed just as a mantua-maker with no livery company association. Her master was also listed repeatedly as a mantua-maker. I'd like to find her indentures so I can pinpoint her father but have no idea which companies to look at. She doesn't show up online as anything other than a mantua-maker so I need to plough through the undigitized records at the Guildhall Library. Does anyone have any ideas about the most likely companies for that trade? Thanks!

The rating of 'trimmer' would be the lowest of the low in the stoke hole of a steam ship. A stoker would actually shovel coal into the boiler and have a little skill in knowing where to place the coal in order to keep the fire burning well and producing maximum steam. The trimmer would shovel coal from the bunkers to an area accessible to the stoker. The action of trimming would be using the coal from bunkers in turn in order to keep the ship on an even keel and not listing which could be caused by using too much coal from bunkers on one side of the ship. It is possible that Cunard had accepted the applicant, and told him to get his card and discharge book without knowing which ship he would be assigned to. I think that in London the discharge books were issued by an office in Prescott Street near Aldgate. It is probable that the books took a few days to issue and needed the production of a birth certificate and possibly parents consent if under age. It would therefore not be possible to allocate the applicant to a ship until he had his documents and had returned to the shipping office with them. I had distant dealings with some of this in the late 1960's when most youths were taken on as laundry boys, but only if they had no 'police history'. The Norwegian merchant navy however were more lenient and would overlook a not too serious conviction. Hope this helps. Regards Barry On 05/01/2012 21:38, Jeremy Wilkes wrote: > I have received from the P.R.O. a copy of an application for a seaman's > card and discharge book. It is dated the 12th June 1961, and the > applicant was rated as a trimmer with no previous maritime service or > training. in the "official use" section it says, "Ship now joining > Cunard Co ES 25's", though the last letter could be a c. > > Can anyone cast light on this? > > Jeremy Wilkes > >

I have received from the P.R.O. a copy of an application for a seaman's card and discharge book. It is dated the 12th June 1961, and the applicant was rated as a trimmer with no previous maritime service or training. in the "official use" section it says, "Ship now joining Cunard Co ES 25's", though the last letter could be a c. Can anyone cast light on this? Jeremy Wilkes

Dear All First reports relating to the Titanic sinking mentioned that the ship has experienced a slight accident and all the passengers where safe. The full horror was only exposed after Carpathia arrived in New York After the 1st july the newspaper reported a "fine days hun bashing had by all" only when the long list if casualties where published did the public come to realize what had happened. My point is that you should read round an event and don't rely on any one account. Julian Duffus Sog member 1978-present Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on O2

Thank you George that is most helpful - I didn't know how much each article cost in credits I have been 'bookmarking' the ones I am most interested in so will have to have a 'marathon' session sometime quite an amazing resource though cheers Jean Wilby

My apologies if this turns up twice, but I keep forgetting to send in plain text. The cheapest package is £6.95 for 500 credits that are valid for 2 days. Each article you look at costs 5 credits, so if you have the time to look at 100 articles in 48 hours it is good value. Unfortunately I found 20 articles took several hours and there is no way I can use the rest of the credits in the time available. Still, I found some pretty good stuff, so I'm well satisfied. George -------Original Message------- From: J F Wilby Date: 01/12/2011 17:21:42 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Newspapers Am I missing something - but don't we have to pay to see the actual Articles ? Whereas on the Gale site we can access for free if our local library (or Similar) has a sub Jean Wilby ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have access to the Gale newspapers on my computer at home through my Kent and Lancashire library cards. Tricia Adam ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 8:01 AM Subject: SOG-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 151 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Newspapers (Peter Bennett) > 2. Re: Brightsolid Newspapers (Peter Bennett) > 3. Re: Newspapers (Alastair's) > 4. Re: Newspapers (Peter Bennett) > 5. Re: Newspapers (J K gen) > 6. Re: Newspapers (Alastair's) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:42:41 +0000 > From: Peter Bennett <[email protected]> > Subject: [SOG-UK] Newspapers > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > The addition to our access to newspapers is welcome, but the British > Newspaper Archive will only be a useful addition to Gale's 19th Century > Newspapers, not replace it despite the overlapping of titles. > > Searching for 'Isaac Ayton' in the 'Newcastle Courant' I found: > > Gale: 28 items > BNA: 21 items > > All between 1821 and 1853. > > Of which, 16 were in both, 12 found in Gale but not the BNA and 5 found in > the BNA and not in Gale. > > It's a bit like census indexes. If you don't find the entry in one, try > another. > > Peter Bennett > Fleet, Hants. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:17:09 +0000 > From: Peter Bennett <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Brightsolid Newspapers > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > The addition to our access to newspapers is welcome, but the British > Newspaper Archive will only be a useful addition to Gale's 19th Century > Newspapers, not replace it despite the overlapping of titles. > > Searching for 'Isaac Ayton' in the 'Newcastle Courant' I found: > > Gale: 28 items > BNA: 21 items > > All between 1821 and 1853. > > Of which, 16 were in both, 12 found in Gale but not the BNA and 5 found in > the BNA and not in Gale. > > It's a bit like census indexes. If you don't find the entry in one, try > another. > > Peter Bennett > Fleet, Hants. > > On 29 November 2011 17:01, J K gen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thought I'd said that ...<g> >> "... usually only available through membership of or attendance at a >> library ...." >> JK >> >> On 29 November 2011 16:15, A Jones <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "J K gen" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:38 AM >> > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Brightsolid Newspapers >> > >> > >> >> One of the advantages of the new resource is that "ordinary" folks can >> >> sign up, whereas the Gale resource is usually only available through >> >> membership of or attendance at a library or other educational >> >> institution. >> >> >> >> This one means you can be anyone, anywhere in the world and do it from >> >> home! >> > >> > You CAN look at many Gale newspaper resources at home in a quite >> significant >> > number of instances. Many English county library services (but not all >> of >> > them) have taken out subscriptions to the Times Digital Archive and/or >> > to >> > 19th Century British Library Newspapers, which allow free access upon >> typing >> > in the barcode (no spaces) from your reader's ticket. Registering for >> > membership of county libraries is usually a simple enough process. >> > >> > Your county library website will normally tell you which online >> > resources >> > are available in your area. Welsh residents may also obtain home >> > access >> if >> > they hold a reader's ticket for the National Library of Wales (although >> this >> > requires a visit to Aberystwyth in person). >> > >> > AJ >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:44:05 -0000 > From: "Alastair's" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Newspapers > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Can you please advise if Gale is open to the private user. Having visited > the site and it appears you have to belong to an institution of some sort. > Help much appreciated > Kind regards > Alastair Ewart > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Bennett" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:42 AM > Subject: [SOG-UK] Newspapers > > >> The addition to our access to newspapers is welcome, but the British >> Newspaper Archive will only be a useful addition to Gale's 19th Century >> Newspapers, not replace it despite the overlapping of titles. >> >> Searching for 'Isaac Ayton' in the 'Newcastle Courant' I found: >> >> Gale: 28 items >> BNA: 21 items >> >> All between 1821 and 1853. >> >> Of which, 16 were in both, 12 found in Gale but not the BNA and 5 found >> in >> the BNA and not in Gale. >> >> It's a bit like census indexes. If you don't find the entry in one, try >> another. >> >> Peter Bennett >> Fleet, Hants. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 14:19:58 +0000 > From: Peter Bennett <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Newspapers > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I have home access via my (Hampshire) local library card. You can also > use > it at the British Library. > > Peter Bennett > > On 30 November 2011 12:44, Alastair's <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Can you please advise if Gale is open to the private user. Having visited >> the site and it appears you have to belong to an institution of some >> sort. >> Help much appreciated >> Kind regards >> Alastair Ewart >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter Bennett" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:42 AM >> Subject: [SOG-UK] Newspapers >> >> >> > The addition to our access to newspapers is welcome, but the British >> > Newspaper Archive will only be a useful addition to Gale's 19th Century >> > Newspapers, not replace it despite the overlapping of titles. >> > >> > Searching for 'Isaac Ayton' in the 'Newcastle Courant' I found: >> > >> > Gale: 28 items >> > BNA: 21 items >> > >> > All between 1821 and 1853. >> > >> > Of which, 16 were in both, 12 found in Gale but not the BNA and 5 found >> in >> > the BNA and not in Gale. >> > >> > It's a bit like census indexes. If you don't find the entry in one, >> > try >> > another. >> > >> > Peter Bennett >> > Fleet, Hants. >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> > in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 14:40:29 +0000 > From: J K gen <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Newspapers > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > As far as I am aware all the Gale resources are aimed at educational > institutions only. Access at home is limited to those of us with a > library card for a library or academic institution who has permission > to provide "off-site" access - I believe such libraries have to pay > extra for this. > > With the new BL resource being made available to the public directly > that has to be a real plus! AND anywhere in the world too. > > Just wish the digitising company could learn how to do scroll bars! > Click and Move on a touch pad is a tad awkward. > > JK > > On 30 November 2011 12:44, Alastair's <[email protected]> wrote: >> Can you please advise if Gale is open to the private user. Having visited >> the site and it appears you have to belong to an institution of some >> sort. >> Help much appreciated >> Kind regards >> Alastair Ewart >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter Bennett" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:42 AM >> Subject: [SOG-UK] Newspapers >> >> >>> The addition to our access to newspapers is welcome, but the British >>> Newspaper Archive will only be a useful addition to Gale's 19th Century >>> Newspapers, not replace it despite the overlapping of titles. >>> >>> Searching for 'Isaac Ayton' in the 'Newcastle Courant' I found: >>> >>> Gale: 28 items >>> BNA: 21 items >>> >>> All between 1821 and 1853. >>> >>> Of which, 16 were in both, 12 found in Gale but not the BNA and 5 found >>> in >>> the BNA and not in Gale. >>> >>> It's a bit like census indexes. ?If you don't find the entry in one, try >>> another. >>> >>> Peter Bennett >>> Fleet, Hants. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 17:50:11 -0000 > From: "Alastair's" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Newspapers > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Peter. > Thank you > Alastair Ewart > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Bennett" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:19 PM > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Newspapers > > >>I have home access via my (Hampshire) local library card. You can also >>use >> it at the British Library. >> >> Peter Bennett >> >> On 30 November 2011 12:44, Alastair's <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Can you please advise if Gale is open to the private user. Having >>> visited >>> the site and it appears you have to belong to an institution of some >>> sort. >>> Help much appreciated >>> Kind regards >>> Alastair Ewart >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Peter Bennett" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:42 AM >>> Subject: [SOG-UK] Newspapers >>> >>> >>> > The addition to our access to newspapers is welcome, but the British >>> > Newspaper Archive will only be a useful addition to Gale's 19th >>> > Century >>> > Newspapers, not replace it despite the overlapping of titles. >>> > >>> > Searching for 'Isaac Ayton' in the 'Newcastle Courant' I found: >>> > >>> > Gale: 28 items >>> > BNA: 21 items >>> > >>> > All between 1821 and 1853. >>> > >>> > Of which, 16 were in both, 12 found in Gale but not the BNA and 5 >>> > found >>> in >>> > the BNA and not in Gale. >>> > >>> > It's a bit like census indexes. 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Peter. Thank you Alastair Ewart ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Bennett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Newspapers >I have home access via my (Hampshire) local library card. You can also use > it at the British Library. > > Peter Bennett > > On 30 November 2011 12:44, Alastair's <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Can you please advise if Gale is open to the private user. Having visited >> the site and it appears you have to belong to an institution of some >> sort. >> Help much appreciated >> Kind regards >> Alastair Ewart >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter Bennett" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:42 AM >> Subject: [SOG-UK] Newspapers >> >> >> > The addition to our access to newspapers is welcome, but the British >> > Newspaper Archive will only be a useful addition to Gale's 19th Century >> > Newspapers, not replace it despite the overlapping of titles. >> > >> > Searching for 'Isaac Ayton' in the 'Newcastle Courant' I found: >> > >> > Gale: 28 items >> > BNA: 21 items >> > >> > All between 1821 and 1853. >> > >> > Of which, 16 were in both, 12 found in Gale but not the BNA and 5 found >> in >> > the BNA and not in Gale. >> > >> > It's a bit like census indexes. If you don't find the entry in one, >> > try >> > another. >> > >> > Peter Bennett >> > Fleet, Hants. >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> > in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Am I missing something - but don't we have to pay to see the actual articles ? whereas on the Gale site we can access for free if our local library (or similar) has a sub Jean Wilby

As far as I am aware all the Gale resources are aimed at educational institutions only. Access at home is limited to those of us with a library card for a library or academic institution who has permission to provide "off-site" access - I believe such libraries have to pay extra for this. With the new BL resource being made available to the public directly that has to be a real plus! AND anywhere in the world too. Just wish the digitising company could learn how to do scroll bars! Click and Move on a touch pad is a tad awkward. JK On 30 November 2011 12:44, Alastair's <[email protected]> wrote: > Can you please advise if Gale is open to the private user. Having visited > the site and it appears you have to belong to an institution of some sort. > Help much appreciated > Kind regards > Alastair Ewart > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Bennett" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:42 AM > Subject: [SOG-UK] Newspapers > > >> The addition to our access to newspapers is welcome, but the British >> Newspaper Archive will only be a useful addition to Gale's 19th Century >> Newspapers, not replace it despite the overlapping of titles. >> >> Searching for 'Isaac Ayton' in the 'Newcastle Courant' I found: >> >> Gale: 28 items >> BNA: 21 items >> >> All between 1821 and 1853. >> >> Of which, 16 were in both, 12 found in Gale but not the BNA and 5 found in >> the BNA and not in Gale. >> >> It's a bit like census indexes.  If you don't find the entry in one, try >> another. >> >> Peter Bennett >> Fleet, Hants.

I have home access via my (Hampshire) local library card. You can also use it at the British Library. Peter Bennett On 30 November 2011 12:44, Alastair's <[email protected]> wrote: > Can you please advise if Gale is open to the private user. Having visited > the site and it appears you have to belong to an institution of some sort. > Help much appreciated > Kind regards > Alastair Ewart > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Bennett" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:42 AM > Subject: [SOG-UK] Newspapers > > > > The addition to our access to newspapers is welcome, but the British > > Newspaper Archive will only be a useful addition to Gale's 19th Century > > Newspapers, not replace it despite the overlapping of titles. > > > > Searching for 'Isaac Ayton' in the 'Newcastle Courant' I found: > > > > Gale: 28 items > > BNA: 21 items > > > > All between 1821 and 1853. > > > > Of which, 16 were in both, 12 found in Gale but not the BNA and 5 found > in > > the BNA and not in Gale. > > > > It's a bit like census indexes. If you don't find the entry in one, try > > another. > > > > Peter Bennett > > Fleet, Hants. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Can you please advise if Gale is open to the private user. Having visited the site and it appears you have to belong to an institution of some sort. Help much appreciated Kind regards Alastair Ewart ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Bennett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:42 AM Subject: [SOG-UK] Newspapers > The addition to our access to newspapers is welcome, but the British > Newspaper Archive will only be a useful addition to Gale's 19th Century > Newspapers, not replace it despite the overlapping of titles. > > Searching for 'Isaac Ayton' in the 'Newcastle Courant' I found: > > Gale: 28 items > BNA: 21 items > > All between 1821 and 1853. > > Of which, 16 were in both, 12 found in Gale but not the BNA and 5 found in > the BNA and not in Gale. > > It's a bit like census indexes. If you don't find the entry in one, try > another. > > Peter Bennett > Fleet, Hants. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

The addition to our access to newspapers is welcome, but the British Newspaper Archive will only be a useful addition to Gale's 19th Century Newspapers, not replace it despite the overlapping of titles. Searching for 'Isaac Ayton' in the 'Newcastle Courant' I found: Gale: 28 items BNA: 21 items All between 1821 and 1853. Of which, 16 were in both, 12 found in Gale but not the BNA and 5 found in the BNA and not in Gale. It's a bit like census indexes. If you don't find the entry in one, try another. Peter Bennett Fleet, Hants. On 29 November 2011 17:01, J K gen <[email protected]> wrote: > Thought I'd said that ...<g> > "... usually only available through membership of or attendance at a > library ...." > JK > > On 29 November 2011 16:15, A Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "J K gen" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:38 AM > > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Brightsolid Newspapers > > > > > >> One of the advantages of the new resource is that "ordinary" folks can > >> sign up, whereas the Gale resource is usually only available through > >> membership of or attendance at a library or other educational > >> institution. > >> > >> This one means you can be anyone, anywhere in the world and do it from > >> home! > > > > You CAN look at many Gale newspaper resources at home in a quite > significant > > number of instances. Many English county library services (but not all > of > > them) have taken out subscriptions to the Times Digital Archive and/or to > > 19th Century British Library Newspapers, which allow free access upon > typing > > in the barcode (no spaces) from your reader's ticket. Registering for > > membership of county libraries is usually a simple enough process. > > > > Your county library website will normally tell you which online resources > > are available in your area. Welsh residents may also obtain home access > if > > they hold a reader's ticket for the National Library of Wales (although > this > > requires a visit to Aberystwyth in person). > > > > AJ > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The addition to our access to newspapers is welcome, but the British Newspaper Archive will only be a useful addition to Gale's 19th Century Newspapers, not replace it despite the overlapping of titles. Searching for 'Isaac Ayton' in the 'Newcastle Courant' I found: Gale: 28 items BNA: 21 items All between 1821 and 1853. Of which, 16 were in both, 12 found in Gale but not the BNA and 5 found in the BNA and not in Gale. It's a bit like census indexes. If you don't find the entry in one, try another. Peter Bennett Fleet, Hants.

Thought I'd said that ...<g> "... usually only available through membership of or attendance at a library ...." JK On 29 November 2011 16:15, A Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J K gen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:38 AM > Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Brightsolid Newspapers > > >> One of the advantages of the new resource is that "ordinary" folks can >> sign up, whereas the Gale resource is usually only available through >> membership of or attendance at a library or other educational >> institution. >> >> This one means you can be anyone, anywhere in the world and do it from >> home! > > You CAN look at many Gale newspaper resources at home in a quite significant > number of instances.  Many English county library services (but not all of > them) have taken out subscriptions to the Times Digital Archive and/or to > 19th Century British Library Newspapers, which allow free access upon typing > in the barcode (no spaces) from your reader's ticket.  Registering for > membership of county libraries is usually a simple enough process. > > Your county library website will normally tell you which online resources > are available in your area.  Welsh residents may also obtain home access if > they hold a reader's ticket for the National Library of Wales (although this > requires a visit to Aberystwyth in person). > > AJ >

----- Original Message ----- From: "J K gen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [SOG-UK] Brightsolid Newspapers > One of the advantages of the new resource is that "ordinary" folks can > sign up, whereas the Gale resource is usually only available through > membership of or attendance at a library or other educational > institution. > > This one means you can be anyone, anywhere in the world and do it from > home! You CAN look at many Gale newspaper resources at home in a quite significant number of instances. Many English county library services (but not all of them) have taken out subscriptions to the Times Digital Archive and/or to 19th Century British Library Newspapers, which allow free access upon typing in the barcode (no spaces) from your reader's ticket. Registering for membership of county libraries is usually a simple enough process. Your county library website will normally tell you which online resources are available in your area. Welsh residents may also obtain home access if they hold a reader's ticket for the National Library of Wales (although this requires a visit to Aberystwyth in person). AJ

One of the advantages of the new resource is that "ordinary" folks can sign up, whereas the Gale resource is usually only available through membership of or attendance at a library or other educational institution. This one means you can be anyone, anywhere in the world and do it from home! JK On 29 November 2011 10:35, Michael Isherwood <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Colin > > Unfortunately my impression is that there is considerable overlap with the > Gale titles > > Michael

Thanks Colin Unfortunately my impression is that there is considerable overlap with the Gale titles Michael On 29 November 2011 10:08, Colin Moretti <[email protected]>wrote: > Just click on the "Search by Publication" dropdown, it lists the titles and > years covered. > > Colin Moretti > > On 29 November 2011 08:40, Michael Isherwood <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > Just had a quick look at the site after the trailers on the Today program > > > > I wonder how much is added to what is available on the existing > newspapers > > on line from the British Library and Gale > > > > The Ipswich Journal and Bury and Norwich Post, for instance, are > duplicated > > but is seems both include early C20th which Gale doesn't. > > > > What I can't find is the list and date range of specific newspapers > > digitised - anyone else found this? > > > > Michael > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just to add that there is a lot of new material available. I was one of the lucky people invited to trial the site so I've had a head start on searching. As an experienced user of the Gale databases, I can't believe how much fresh information I've turned up in the British Newspaper Archive. The most amazing find is that my grandfather had a half brother he never knew about. My 92 year old Mum and I are still recovering from the shock. Now that the site is live I can at last blog about it. Caroline Gurney www.carosfamily.com www.cmgurney.blogspot.com On 29 November 2011 10:08, Colin Moretti <[email protected]> wrote: > Just click on the "Search by Publication" dropdown, it lists the titles and > years covered. > > Colin Moretti > > On 29 November 2011 08:40, Michael Isherwood <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Just had a quick look at the site after the trailers on the Today program >> >> I wonder how much is added to what is available on the existing newspapers >> on line from the British Library and Gale >> >> The Ipswich Journal and Bury and Norwich Post, for instance, are duplicated >> but is seems both include early C20th which Gale doesn't. >> >> What I can't find is the list and date range of specific newspapers >> digitised - anyone else found this? >> >> Michael >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message