Often, information like this can be found at the on-line telephone directories. I prefer www.555-1212.com because it allows to expand the search radius miles. In this case, I did not find Zeferino Ramirez Mortuary. This could be as a result of the consolidation of the industry which has been going on for several years. Many of the old family / independent mortuaries / funeral directors have been bought up by corporations. It is also possible that the business simply lies farther outside the area in some suburban city, but still spoken of generically as the "Los Angeles" area. It could also be that Z.R. was the name of the owner, and legally / officially the business has some other name. The source of the information, whatever it may be, or the age of the information, could be a clue to further searching. The place of the burial if known, or a church where services were held, or the place of death, may all be clues for further searching. The deceased place of residence, the place of death, mortuary, burial, are not always in close proximity. For example, when I am at the Riverside National Cemetery, I often see hearses from mortuaries 2 or 3 counties away. There is a Moslem cemetery in the high desert area of San Bernardino county which receives burials from all over southern California. Phil pvc@vancamp.org . ----- Original Message ----- From: L.W.L. <willuj@earthlink.net> To: <SOCAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 10:22 AM Subject: Moruary > I am trying to get in touch with the Zeferino Ramirez Mortuary in Los Angeles. I would appreciate any help. > > Lupe > >