Robert; Did some more checking on the Reiffel name again. Found the DC for Elizabeth and also found one for a Nancy. Did her as well since she could be related. Found Obit for Elizabeth and she is the wife of Charles. Found a death notice for Nancy as well. Need your address to send them to. Could not find any marriage info. They must have married outside of San Diego County. Here are the DCs: Source: San Diego 54-191 Name: Elizabeth Frances Reiffel 4849 Kenmore Terrace, San Diego, CA Died: 1-19-1944, 7pm, at home Female, white, widower, housewife, age 68 years 10 months 30 days Spouse: Charles Reiffel Birth: 2/20/1875, Ireland FA: Thomas Flanagan, Ireland MO: Beatrice Roache, Ireland Cause: Adeno-carcinoma of Uterus, Carcinoma of bladder and Rectum. Dr: Viola J. Erlanger Mort: Bradley-Woolman Mortuary Burial: Greenwood Mausoleum, 1/22/1944 Informant: Mrs. Sanford Goodson, Rochester, Massachusetts In county and state: 25 years Source: San Diego 24-1364 Name: Nancy Ellen Marshall Reiffel 5300 Orange Avenue, San Diego Died: 6/13/1928, at home Female, white, widow, age 88 years 3 months 22 days Spouse: Jacob Reiffel (could not find his DC) Birth: 2/22/1840, Ohio FA: Atwell Marshall, Virginia MO: Unknown, Ohio Cause: Chronic nephritis - intersitial, Hypostatic pneumonia Dr: E. Blanch Ramar Mort: Benbough Funeral Parlors Cremated: 6/15/1928 Clover Lawn Crematory Informant: Ada Keeley In CA: 2 1/2 years Hope these help. Donna At 03:12 PM 10/9/00 EDT, RykerRiker@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 10/6/00 10:49:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mbs@inland.net >writes: > ><< Robert; > Well, believe it or not, there is no obit on this guy and I checked three >papers. Maybe he is like most artists and don't become famous until after >they die. Anyway, I did do an death cert transcription for you that will >verify the parentage. Here it is: (snip) >> > >Most interesting, Donna! I'm really *surprised* that there was no obit in >the San Diego papers, since Reiffel built his reputation as a landscape >painter while residing in southern Calif. You might be interested to know >that some of his larger paintings now sell for upwards of $10,000! I'm going >to be in Indianapolis (Reiffel's birthplace) next week, so while there I'll >check the newspapers on the assumption there could have been a "famous >hometown boy dies" article in one of their local newspapers. > >About the only item in the death certif. that leaves me puzzled is the >identity of Charles' wife, "Elizabeth F. Reiffel (age 67)" The only marriage >record that I have for Charles was to one "Louisa Bratton" (no age given), >whom he married in Marion County, Indiana on 3 May 1898. Now Elizabeth's >birth yr. would have been abt 1875, which makes her some 13 yrs younger than >Charles -- therefore maybe a *second* wife? -- but she was surely about the >right age (23) for marriage in 1898, so I have no basis here for concluding >that "Louisa" and "Elizabeth F." are actually different people, despite their >radically different names! Any ideas on how to pursue this further? > -------------------------- ><< I looked for marriage records as well and failed there as well. >> > >Over what time period did you search, Donna? According to the following >quoted material, the Reiffels moved to Calif. in abt 1925: > >"In 1925, Reiffel and his wife went to Southern California and were so taken >with the countryside, they moved near San Diego. His landscapes of southern >California brought him fame, and he also painted the Grand Canyon and other >Southwest landscapes. He died in San Diego on March 14, 1942." > > ---- from AskArt.com website > >Note that this relocation date of 1925 is consistent w/ the death cert >statement "In County and State: 18 years" So I guess the time period to >search would be 1925 - 1942. > -------------------------- >Well, Donna, I surely appreciate your efforts in getting me the info >requested!! You have helped me confirm a number of facts about which I was >uncertain, and that's always a big help. > >Now, what do I owe you for your time & travel expenses? Please provide your >mailing address so I can send you a reimbursement check promptly! > >Much in your debt, > >Robert C. Kryter (1st cousin twice removed to Chas. P. Reiffel) >Loudon, Tennessee > >