As a reminder, this is a reply to Edward Black's query about a specific list of L.A. townships, 1870. He needs the info to help transcribe the 1870 L.A. Co. census for posting on the net. I am posting to the list because I suppose others might be interested. Also, I am *NOT* an expert, and I am hoping for corrections from people who know better. There are only two more on Mr. Black's list, L.A. Township, and "Anaheim-Santa Ana Township." From what I discovered today, Anaheim/Santa Ana may be too complex for me, thus skipped, leaving only ONE more to go, L.A. Township. The end is in sight! OK. SAN GABRIEL TOWNSHIP: Source: Reproduction of "History of Los Angeles County, California..." [long title], Thompson & West, publishers, Oakland, CA, 1880. "The township of San Gabriel extends southward from the southern boundary of Soledad township, and comprises within its limits the San Pasqual Rancho, a part of the Santa Anita Rancho, and some two hundred acres of church property, confirmed to the San Gabriel Mission. The northern half of the township is covered by the Coast Range [San Gabriel Mountains], which forms a majestic background to the valley. South-west of the latter, low rolling hills temper the sea-breeze, while scarcely obstructing the view. Far as the eye can see to the south and east extend the level lands of San Jose and El Monte, forming as it were, one continuous valley, whose different portions have adopted different names." Why the author says that San Jose Township is to the south of San Gabriel Township I cant imagine, as San Jose is far to the east, unless a wing of San Jose Township sneaks by across the south of both San Gabriel and El Monte Townships sort of like a panhandle. San Gabriel Township contained the Mission San Gabriel, San Gabriel Village around the mission, Pasadena, and Sierra Madre Villa. For the moment, I suppose that Sierra Madre Villa became today's Sierra Madre. Rancho San Pasqual was located about where Altadena and Pasadena are today, perhaps including northern San Marino. San Gabriel Township probably included today's Altadena, Pasadena, at least part of San Marino, all of Sierra Madre, and maybe some or all of Arcadia and Temple City. This is, of course only an educated guess. Lester Powers lesterps@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
And now I return to yesteryear to take another whack at that ornery ol' San Jose Township, circa 1870 or so, give or take some. There were some appreciative notes in this morning's E-mail, so I guess I won't get yelled at anyway, even though this flu bug has reduced my brain to rubble. I suppose I should have done San Jose Township as below in the first place, but live and learn. Source: Reproduction of "History of Los Angeles County California..." [long title], Thompson & West, publishers, Oakland, CA, 1880. SAN JOSE TOWNSHIP: "San Jose is the most westerly of those townships which extend southward from the base of Soledad township. It is long and irregular in outline, and is bounded on the south by the northern point of the Santa Ana township. It contains within its limits, the following ranchos: -- [table listing Ranchos Rincon De La Brea ("a part"), Los Nogales, San Jose, and La Puente ("a part")]." [...omission here...] "In the _News_ of April 16, 1867, we find the following account of the San Jose valley: -- 'The valley of San Jose is situated about twenty-four miles from the city of Los Angeles. It is a continuation of the Puente valley, beginning at the San Gabriel river and following the meanderings of the Puente, or San Jose creek, a distance of eighteen miles, skirted on the south by the hills of the lower coast range and upon the north by the foot-hills of the coast range of the great Sierra Nevadas.'" [i.e., the San Gabriel Mountains] Now, I'll try to locate the bugger better. The most appropriate map I have, so far, is in "Los Angeles In Civil War Days, 1860-65," by John W. Robinson, Dawson's Book Shop (publisher), 1977. MOST of what must be San Jose Township is off of this map -- not shown. And mind, what is shown is the ranchos, NOT townships. At the very eastern edge of the map I see only the very westernmost tips of Rancho San Jose and Rancho Los Nogales. San Jose Township includes Ranchos Rincon de la Brea (in part), Los Nogales, San Jose, and La Puente (in part). It SEEMS like the western 3/4 of Rancho La Puente was in El Monte Twp., and the eastern 1/4 of Rancho La Puente was in San Jose Twp. It also looks like the southwestern corner of San Jose Twp. was occupied by a part of Rancho Rincon de la Brea. OK. Where is that? If I compare the Civil War-era map to my Mobil road atlas, there are two wonderful features. On a modern map, find the Upper Newport Bay in Newport Beach, Orange County, and draw a line from there exactly straight due north. Now find Venice/Marina del Rey/Ballona Creek (north of LAX) and draw a line from there exactly straight due east. The two lines intersect at old Rancho Rincon de la Brea, and Rancho Rincon de la Brea APPEARS to mark the more or less southwest corner limit of San Jose Twp. If you extend the line north from Upper Newport Bay all the way to the San Gabriel Mountains, San Jose Twp. should be east of that. If you extend the line from Venice clear to the L.A. County line, San Jose Twp. should be north of that. Thus, these modern-day places would have been in San Jose Twp.: Eastern Glendora, San Dimas, La Verne, Pomona, and Claremont. Then we hit San Bernardino County east of that. (No, I am not sure where that line was in 1870.) Gary Radcliffe wrote privately: "What, I wonder, is the difference between San Jose Twp. and the San Jose Addition?" DON'T CONFUSE San Jose Twp. with Rancho San Jose. The township includes the rancho, plus other ranchos. As to what the "Addition" is, I have no guess. The "History of Los Angeles County, California" book does not mention it. Gary let slip that he has a map of the San Jose Addition, so I guess that makes him vulnerable to look-up requests. OK. Gosh, San Jose Twp. is such a nuissance! Lester Powers (and his flu bug pals) lesterps@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Darlene; Did a DC transcript and found an obit. Send me your address for the obit. Here is the DC transcript... Source: San Diego 39-828 Name: Joseph Pinzini Died: 12/3/1936, Mercy Hospital, San Diego, CA Male, Italian, married, age 67, retired barber Spouse: Margaret Pinzini Birth: about 1869, Sicily, Italy FA: Morris Pinzini, Italy MO: unknown, Sicily, Italy Cause: Cerebral Hemorrhage, Arteriosclerosis with hypotension Mort: Goodbody's Ivy Chapel Removal: 12/4/1936 to Oakland, CA Informant: Christine Mariel, 317 Ash St., San Diego, CA In County: 3 months In State: 12 years In USA: 42 years Hope this helps. Be sure to send address. Donna At 11:40 AM 10/13/00 -0700, darlene pinzini wrote: >Seeking death info Joseph Pinzini (possibly Pinzina) from Sicily, who >died in San Diego county in 1937 or 1938. Thank you, Darlene Pinzini > > >==== CA-DEATH-INDEX Mailing List ==== >Death Index 1940-97: http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi >Reminder: make sure you've used the "add" link at the right of each death listing you find and leave a message that you are researching this/these name/s; someone just might get in contact with you; (the password is something you create so no one can edit your message). > > >
Cindy; Did some checking through the old San Diego records and found the marriage to Katherine (below). Found nothin on Ellery. Found some other older McDowells that may or may not be yours. Sarah E. McDowell d. 8/1/1891 Infant (male) (age 8 months) d. 3/6/1893 Lulu Belle McDowell d. 5/10/1896 Oscie McDowell d. 1/11/1910 Eugene McDowell d. 6/14/1907 William G. McDowell d. 9/5/1906 Ignacio McDowell d. 2/14/1897 S. McDowell Jr (of MA) m. H. C. Shermann (of VT) 12/5/1887 Don't know if any of these are yours but thought I would try. Here is the marriage transcript you requested. Source: San Diego 26-1103 Bride: Katherine L. Niland (white, age 44) of San Diego, CA Birthplace: Massachusetts FA: Thomas A. Niland, Ireland MO: Mary A McGuire, Massachusetts Occupation: Teacher Groom: Samuel A. McDowell (white, age 50) of San Diego, CA Birthplace: California FA: S. A. McDowell, Pennsylvania MO: Belle Terry, Ohio Marriage: #2 Divorced Occupation: Philatelist Marriage Info: 6/18/1930, St. Anne's church, San Diego, CA Witness: Charles Srite Officiate: Joseph Hill, Priest, 656 24th St., San Diego, CA Hope this helps. Donna At 05:45 PM 10/10/00 +0000, cindmo@juno.com wrote: >Hi. You have been so helpful! I hope I'm not being to greedy with your >time. If you have time and are willing I have aproximate marraige dates >for Samuel Arthur McDowell. He married Almira (?) about 1904 and then he >married Katherine Louise Niland between 1917 and 1920. I have nothing on >Ellery his brother. I think he died around 1912. ( no death record) >Thanks again! >Sincerely, >Cindy > >________________________________________________________________ > >
Lloyd; Did some checking and there was an Axel (d. 3/14/1942) and Axen (d.1/4/1940). Checked both and based on your info Axen seems to be the right one. Found an obit for him too so I need you to send your address so I can get it out to you. Here is the DC transcription for him. Source: San Diego 46-19 Name: Axen (Al) Pearson 3646 Georgia Street, San Diego, CA Died: 1/4/1940 at home Male, white, married, age 70 years 9 months 12 days, Contractor - house painting Spouse: Hattie W. Pearson Birth: 3/23/1869, Sweden FA: unknown Pearson MO: unknown Cause: Cancer of stomach, metastatic - liver, cancer of Pylolus. Dr: Clair L. Stealy Mort: Benbough Funeral Parlors Burial: 1/8/1940, Cypress View Mausoleum Informant: Spouse Hope this helps. Don't forget to send your address. Donna At 09:13 AM 10/10/00 -0400, Lloyd H. Thomas Jr. wrote: >Donna, > >Thank you for responding. > >I have been watching with interest the number of San Diego lookups you have >done. I'm trying to locate information on my grandfather, Axel(Alexander) >Pearson, born in Sweden. He lived at 3646 Georgia Street in San Diego, and >I think he died in 1942, though it might have been 1941. Any help you can >give me would be greatly appreciated, and I'd need to know the expense >involved. Just let me know and I'll send you a check. > >My grandmother, Hattie Brown(e) survived him and died in the seventies in >New Hampshire; she is buried beside him, I believe, but I don't know which >graveyard. I know that my mother took her back to be interred with him >after her passing. Sheila Prader sent me an obit several years ago, but in >moving the file was lost. > >Thank you for any help you can give me. > >Lloyd Thomas > > > >
Checked for death information on her and there is no one by that named that died in San Diego during that time period. She either married and died under another name or she did not died in the county of San Diego. Sorry. Donna At 01:08 PM 10/12/00 -0700, Katherine Karr Langham wrote: >Posted on: San Diego County, California<BR>Queries >Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/Ca/SanDiego/158 > >Surname: McCallister >------------------------- > >I am looking for information on Cora Jean McCallister b. 1890 d.1920-21 >in San Diego or the surrounding area. Father was Charles William Albert >McCallister (1848-1897), grf. was Charles McCallister. Any help would be >greatly appreciated. > > >
Hope; Looked for an obit, but there wasn't one. Did do a DC transcript for you... Source: San Diego 235-989 Name: Alfred Richard Benedict 209 Monroe Street, Oceanside, CA Died: 3/17/1987, 9:30 am, Tri-city Medical Center, Oceanside, CA Male, white, SS#535-20-8061, married, age 59, retired staff sgt for USMC Spouse: Bernice Hibbard Birth: 4/16/1927, Washington FA: Lloyd Benedict, Wisconsin MO: Edna Miller, Washington Cause: Cardiopulmonary arrest, Sudden death syndrome, Probable acute myocardial infarction, Severe anoxic encephalopathy. Dr: Martin M. Nielsen Mort: Oceanside Mortuary Burial: 3/23/1987, All Saints Cemetery, Oceanside, CA Informant: Wife Military: 1943-1969 Hope this helps. Donna At 01:28 PM 10/9/00 -0500, Benedict, Hope wrote: >How do I go about getting a death certificate for someone who died in San >Diego in 1987? > >Alfred Richard Benedict >died 3/17/1987 >born 4/16/1927 > >Thanks. >Hope Benedict > > > > >==== CA-DEATH-INDEX Mailing List ==== >Online vital records from various CA counties >www.criis.com >Contra Costa, Placer, Stanislaus, Yolo currently available > > >
Rick; Sorry, there is no obit. Donna At 01:34 PM 10/8/00 EDT, BATRACING@aol.com wrote: > Hello from Ohio, Is there any obits on line for San Diego in 1983? If not >could someone help me find one for an Edna Loveland Scott (Littlejohn) she >was born in Salinas on Jan.6,1896. She died Dec. 24 1983 in San Diego. > > Thanks Rick > > >
Babs; Could not find an obit, but did a DC transcription for you... Source: San Diego 201-1176 Name: Len Ruben Perowne 12 Beaconsfield Road Coventry, Westmidlands, England Died: 3/3/1984, 11:34 pm, Palomar Hospital, Escondido, CA Male, white, age 77, married, machinest for Plessey Machine Spouse: Irene Perowne Birth: 7/19/1906, England FA: Ruben Perowne, England MO: Laura Everrett, England Cause: Cardiac arrest, myocardial infarction, arteriosclerotic heart disease. Dr: Dennis Leahy Mort: McLeod Mortuary Cremation: Eternal Hills Crematory 3/7/1984 Informant: David Owen (son-in-law) 819 Daisy Street, Escondido, CA Hope this helps. Donna At 02:21 PM 10/9/00 EDT, SheleeBebo@aol.com wrote: >Babs: > >I found the following on the online CADI at ><http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi>: > >PEROWNE LEN RUBEN 07/19/1906 EVERETT M REST (OTHER) SAN DIEGO(37) >03/03/1984 77 yrs > >I am cc'ing this response to Donna, <mbs@inland.net>, who may be able to help >you with a death certificate transcription and obit. > >--Sheila P. > >In a message dated 10/8/00 7:43:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >bperowne@axion.net writes: > >> Shelee: >> >> If you are still in the business of doing CADI lookups, could you please >> tell me what you can find for Len Reuben PEROWNE (or Leonard) who died >> supposedly in San Diego on 3 Mar 1984 at the age of 77. >> >> My source for the info is questionable, hence my desire to confirm it. >Any >> info about his kin would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks for your help. >> Babs >> > >
Kathleen; Could not find an obit for either of the Colwells, but did find one for Nettie Cooley. Need an address to mail it to. Donna At 08:27 AM 10/8/00 -0400, Kathleen K. Ruhlen wrote: >Hello, > >My name is Kathleen Ruhlen. I am a RAOGK for my county here in Ohio. I >am wondering if you may be able to help me. I am looking for obituaries >for 3 of my relatives who died in your county, don't know if you do obit >look-ups. If you do I am looking for the following obits: > >Nettie Cooley died 4/7/1971, San Diego Co. > >Lois (Cooley) Colwell died 11/12/1991, San Diego Co. > >John R. Colwell died 4/12/1979, San Digeo Co. > >Anything you can do will be most appreciated. I will be more than happy >to reimburse the costs for copying and postage. > >Thank you for your time. > >Kathleen Ruhlen > > >
Hi; Got your obits, 1 for Alfred Pierce and two for Naomi. Need an address to mail them to. Donna At 07:40 AM 10/8/00 -0500, empierce@uswest.net wrote: >Dear Donna, > >Sandra Harris gave me your e-mail address and said you might >be able to do a couple of obituary lookups for me. > >Naomi Woodall, died 10-23-1972, in San Diego, California >Alfred Pierce, died 12-6-1978, in San Diego, California >(possibly Spring Valley area) > >I would appreciate any help you could give me. Thank you. > >Sincerely, > > >E. M. Pierce >empierce@uswest.net > > >
June; You were right, there was no obit, but I got the DC transcription for you... Source: San Diego 336-659 and 339-141 Name: George Hamilton Deputy 2164 2nd Avenue #5, San Diego, CA Died: Found 12/1/1994, 8:47 pm at home Male, caucasian, SS#222-18-8062, divorced, unknown occupation, age 62 Birth: 10/29/1932, Delaware FA: John Deputy, Delaware MO: Sara Elizabeth Hamilton, Maryland Cause: Acute morphine and alcohol intoxication. Self administered alcohol and heroine. Dr: Coroner Mort: Mayer Mortuary Cremation: 12/16/1994, ashes scattered at sea 3 miles off Point Loma. Informant: Public Administrator - L Jamme In County: 17 years Hope this helps. Donna At 07:09 PM 10/9/00 GMT, June Silva wrote: >Thank you so much for your offer a transcription would be great I have >doubts of there being an obit but that would be interesting. Thank you >I'm researching for a child in my custody, who is his grand daughter, his >son passed away several years ago. The girl was a friend of my daughters >and so I petitioned the court for custody. She's bright and a good student >and is avery nice person. Thank you so much for your help > June Silva > > >>From: "Donna@MBS" <mbs@inland.net> >>To: "Colleen" <norby@ainet.com>, "June Silva" <tiavjs@hotmail.com>, >><CA-DEATH-INDEX-L@rootsweb.com> >>Subject: Re: Deputy Results San Diego >>Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 10:01:05 -0700 >> >>If you would like a death certificate transcription or an obit, let me >>know. >>Donna >> >> >> >> >>At 05:24 PM 10/7/00 -0700, Colleen wrote: >> >Searched the CADI cds using the Soc. Security number and found >> > >> > DEPUTY GEORGE HAMILTON >> >10/29/1932 >> >mother's maiden name HAMILTON >> >born DE >> >died San Diego 12/01/1994 ss222188062 age 62 >> > >> >Since you've found this person in the CA Death Index >> >(http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi), please make sure you've >> >used the "add" link at the right of each death listing and leave a >>message >> >that you are researching this/these name/s; someone just might get in >> >contact with you; (the password is something you create so no one can >>edit >> >your message). >> > >> >Also, follow the SS# link if the social security number appears in the >>death >> >listing. If you find a social security number for the person, PLEASE use >> >the "Post-em" link in the right column to share your name and email >>address >> >and a message that you are researching this person. Someone might get in >> >contact with you from your message. >> > >> >The location of death listed above is the COUNTY of death. To determine >>the >> >CITY of death you will need to order the death certificate or find a >> >volunteer to transcribe the information at the county recorder's office. >> >Here's the info site for CA vital records: http://vitalrec.com/ca.html >>Make >> >sure you visit the link for the county of death listed - quite often it's >> >much faster to deal with the county for a copy of the death certificate >>than >> >it is with the state. If you do order from the state, fax your order. >>It's >> >the fastest way to get the certificate and you can order up to 5 >> >certificates for the $7.00 credit card surcharge. >> > >> >Follow the link from this site to the county you're interested in >> >California county websites: http://www.cagenweb.com/ >> > >> >Other URLs of interest for researching in California: >> > >> >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/NORCAL%20index/toc.shtml >> >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/norcallib.html (volunteers for book >> >lookups) >> > >> >Volunteers - vital records, obituaries, city directories, cemeteries, >>etc. >> >by county location >> > >> >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~angels/ca.html >> >http://raogk.rootsweb.com/californ.htm >> >http://posom.com/hl/usa/ca.shtml >> >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~obitl/volca.html >> >http://www.expage.com/page/genealogylookup >> >http://www.headstonehunter.com/hunterlist.asp >> > >> >Daily Obituary Times (obituaries from 1995 on) >> >http://obits.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/obit.cgi >> > >> >If you need clarification on any point, please include the previous >>message >> >in your response. >> > >> >Colleen Norby >> >Rootsweb sponsor >> > >> >ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: June Silva <tiavjs@hotmail.com> >> >To: CA-DEATH-INDEX-L@rootsweb.com <CA-DEATH-INDEX-L@rootsweb.com> >> >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:53 PM >> >Subject: [CADI] CADI-obit post-1940 G. Deputy >> > >> > >> >>Hi, >> >>I'm hoping someone can help me. I found a G. Deputy on the SSDI >> >> DOB 29 Oct 1932 >> >> Death Dec 1994 >> >> Resid 92101 San Diego CA >> >> SSN 222-18-8062 >> >> Issued Delaware >> >> >> >> Before I write for original SS5 and Death Certificate I need >> >>to verify that this is the person I'm looking for. >> >> >> >> The birth date, and place of issuance of the SSN would be correct >> >> But is the first name George? >> >> >> >> I couldn't find him on the CADI list. Been trying to locate records >> >> for about 4 years. Anything you can give me would be most helpful, >> >> including cemetary if possible. >> >> >> >> Thank You >> >> >> >> June Silva >> >> >> > >> > >> > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > >
Cindy; Here is the marriage transcription. Bear in mind that this is all hand written so hopefully it is right. Source: San Diego Marriage Book 4-228 License: These presents are to authorize and license any Justice of the Supreme Court, District or County Judge, Justice of the Peace, Mayor, Priest or Minister of the Gospel of any denomination to solemnize, within said county, the marriage of S. A. McDowell, native of New York, age 37 years, resident of Julian, County of San Diego, State of California, and Belle McKnight, native of Ohio, aged 28 ( or 25) years, resident of Banner, County of San Diego, State of California. Said parties being of sufficient age to be capable of contracting marriage. In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of the County Court of said county this 5th day of June AD 1877. by A. (?) Grant, Deputy Clerk Certificate: I hereby certify that I believe the facts stated in the abovew license to be true and that upon due inquiry there appears to be no legal impediment to the marriage of said S. A. McDowell and Belle McKnight, that said parties were joined in marriage by me on the 24th day of June AD 1877 in Banner, said county and state; that L. B. Kelman, a resident of Julian, County of San Diego, State of California was present at witness of said ceremony. The parents of S. A. McDowell were natives of the State of New York and those of Belle McKnight were natives of Ohio. Belle McKnight was married before - husband still living. In witness whereof I have hereunder set my hand this 24th day of June AD 1877. H. F. Williams, Justice of the Peace. Recorded 30 June 1877. Hope this helps. Donna At 09:20 AM 10/7/00 +0000, cindmo@juno.com wrote: >Thank you!!! Yes please transcribe the S.A. McDowell who married Bell >McKnight. It is them. I thought it was Knight, so I've been barking up >the wrong tree for a while. Thanks so much! I can't wait to here from >you again! >Sincerely, >Cindy Gooch > >________________________________________________________________ >YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > >
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>Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:14:13 -0700 > > > Valerie; > > > In addition to the probate thing which I already e-mailed you about, I > > did get DC transcriptions (below) and I have obits/death notice for each. > > Need an address to mail those to. Here are the transcripts. > > > > Source: San Diego 79-549 > > > Name: Charles P. Zellar, 1536 Mead Ave., San Diego > > > Died: 6/29/1956, 6:50 pm, Edgemoor San Diego County Farm, Santee, CA > > > Male, white, age 86, widower, retired barber > > > Birth: 2/6/1970, Ft Wayne, Indiana > > > FA: Malengthen Zellar, Ohio > > > MO: Nancy Rees, Ohio > > > Cause: CVA, Cardio-vascular Renal Disease > > > Dr: Frederic R. Allen > > > Burial: 7/3/1956, Glenn Abbey Memorial Park > > > Informant: Edgemoor Farm Records > > > In County: 1 year, 27 days > > > > > Source: San Diego 78-752 > > > Name: Paul Andrew Zeller, 1821 University, San Diego > > > Died: 2/13/1956, 7:35 pm, San Diego County Hospital > > > Male, white, SS# 572-03-7178, married, age 68, retired accountant > > > Spouse: Helen P. Zeller > > > Birth: 9/2/1887, Blufton, Ohio > > > FA: Unknown Zeller, PA > > > MO: Nancy Reese, PA > > > Cause: Acute pyelonephritis > > > Dr: John D. Todd > > > Mort: Johnson-Saum and Knobel Mortuary > > > Burial: 2/16/1956, Glenn Abbey Cemetery > > > Informant: Wife > > > > Hope this helps. Don't forget to send an address. > > > Donna > > > > > > > At 12:11 AM 10/6/00 -0400, Valerie Hulderman wrote: > > > >>>> > > > <excerpt>Dear Donna, Public Records lookups and copying Will also do > > probate lookups and copying. > > > > > I am trying to discover what I can about the branch of my husband's > > family that left Ohio and went to California. > > > Please, tell me if they are mentioned in probate as to a will or anything > > else. Also, any further death information or even if you could simply > > find out what part of town they lived. To be honest with you, what I'd > > really like is the obit on either one or both, though I know you didn't > > offer that one. Whatever you can do is fine. > > > > The following is all I know about them: > > > > Paul Andrew ZELLER (or Zellers) was born in Ohio and later moved to > > California. I don't > > > know who he married or what he did except that his mother's death notice > > in 1923 stated he lived in Los Angeles and his > > > brother's death notice in 1944 stated he lived in San Diego. He died on > > February 13, 1956 in San Diego. His brother > > > Charles P ZELLER also had moved to San Diego sometime after 1944 and died > > there on 06/29/1956 at the age of 86. > > > > -- > > > Thank you very much for your help, > > > > Valerie > > > > "Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in his shoes. That > > > way, if he gets angry, he'll be a mile away and barefoot." > > > >
Peggy; Send the obits out this morning. He was a member of IOOF. Here is the DC transcription... Source: San Diego 76-989 Name: James Ephraim Martin 4774 36th Street, San Diego, CA Died: 3/2/1955, 4:05 pm, San Diego County General Hospital Male, white, married, age 82, retired railroad conductor Spouse: Janetta P. Martin Birth: 7/18/1872 Clay,NY FA: George Martin MO: Helen P. Martin Cause: Inanition, gastro colic fistula, cancer of the stomach Dr: Erik W. Michelson Mort: Rogers Mortuary Cremation: 3/7/1955 Greenwood Crematory Informant: Self In County: 34 years Hope this helps. In the future, please be patient. Once a person says they will get the info, they will...it just takes time and you usually have to wait till your name comes up on the list. Sorry this took 2 weeks, but there were tons of people ahead of you. Just letting you know since you are a first time poster to the list. Donna At 08:13 AM 10/7/00 -0700, Peg & Ron wrote: >Hello folks: > >I am a first time poster to this list. I am searching for >information on a long deceased mysterious great uncle and aunt. His >name was James E. Martin. If I have chosen the correct one from the >CA Death Index, he died March 2, 1955. DOB July 18, 1872. He died >in San Diego and according to the DC of his wife, Janetta their last >residence was 4774 36th Street in that city. > >Sadly, these lovely people had no children and lived a great many >years of their lives in the Canal Zone where he was employed. They >returned and lived in San Diego the remainder of their lives. > >If anyone can help with a look-up for this gentleman, I would be most >appreciative and willing to pay any costs incurred. > >You may contact me at my personal E mail if you wish. rv64@lor.net >Thank you so much! This would mean so much to me! >Peggy > > >
Joyce; Checked for an obit, but there wasn't one. Did get his DC transcript though... Source: San Diego 36-1564 Name: David F. Watkins, East Pennsylvania Avenue, Escondido, CA Died: 5/28/1935, at home Male, white, married, farmer, age 76 years 11 months 22 days Spouse: Annie L. Watkins Birth: 6/6/1858, MO FA: Calvin Watkins MO: Unknown Cause: Cancer of the face, head lesion Dr: E. C. Datson Mort: Carl G. Palm, mortician, Escondido, CA Burial: 5/30/1935, San Marcos Informant: Harry (Palew or Baker - hard to read), Escondido, CA In County and State: 14 years Hope this helps. Donna At 05:07 PM 10/6/00 EDT, Jodi163@aol.com wrote: >Hi >I am looking for info. on DAVID F. WATKINS, He lived in Escondido in the >1920s and 30s. He died there on May 28, 1935 and is buried in San Marcos. If >there is anyone that can look up his death cert. I would really appreciate >it. >Any help is greatly appreciated. >Joyce Neely jodi163@aol.com > > >
Judee; Here is the DC transcription... Source: San Diego 132-313 Name: Charles Riley Tindall, 2555 Huffstatter St, Fallbrook, CA Died: DOA 6/29/1969, 9 am, Fallbrook Hospital, FAllbrook, CA Male, Caucasian, SS# 552-26-3422, married, age 76, salesman for McMillan Realty Spouse: Gladys M. Sherman Birth: 1/20/1896, Colorado FA: John W. Tindell, Indiana MO: Cora May Sandy, Illinois Cause: Myocardial Infarction - anterosystal - extensive, thrombotic occlusion - coronary artery - left anterior, arteriosclerosis - coronary focal - advanced. Dr: Robert L. Creason - coroner Mort: Allen Brothers Mortuary Burial: 7/5/1969, Pueblo Cemetery, Pueblo, Colorado Informant: Wife In County and State: 10 years Hope this helps. Donna At 01:02 AM 10/6/00 -0700, maloneys@impop.bellatlantic.net wrote: >Donna, > >Sorry to bother you again, but could I get a death cert. transcription for >him? > >Charles R. Tindall b. 1896 CO d. 6-29-1969 San Diego Co., CA. > >Judee Maloney >maloneys@bellatlantic.net > >Donna@MBS wrote: > >> Judee; >> Could not find an obit on Charles. Sorry.] >> Donna >> >> At 11:51 PM 9/24/00 -0700, maloneys@impop.bellatlantic.net wrote: >> >I need an obit for: Charles R. TINDALL b.1896 CO d. 6-29-1969 Fallbrook, >> > >> >San Diego Co., CA. >> > >> >Any help appreciated. >> > >> >Judee Maloney >> >maloneys@bellatlantic.net >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >
Mr Lindholm, according to an online search "Svenska Kristna Missionforsanlengen" or "Swedish Tabernacle" later became Mission Friends Church and then Mission Covenant Church. I don't know where Church Headquarters or records are. The search did list a Mission Covenant Church in Portland, OR & a First Covenant Church in Seattle. trace97@jps.net > . > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roger Lindholm <rogersplace@speedchoice.com> > To: <SOCAL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 2:32 PM > Subject: Church Records Los Angeles Area > > > > Hello List. > > *****EDITED***** > > I am looking for the records of a Church refereed to by my gg > grandfather as being the Swedish Tabernacle. > > Roger Lindholm Scottsdale, Arizona
Joe Walker just now sent an encouraging E-mail to me, off-list, so I guess there's one person anyway who doesn't mind my floundering around trying blindly to describe some ancient places. I guess I can squeeze out one quickie before I take my lousy flu viruses and myself to bed tonight. Here goes. Source: Reproduction of "History of Los Angeles County California..." [long title], Thompson & West, publishers, Oakland, CA, 1880. EL MONTE TOWNSHIP: "The township of El Monte was erected out of San Gabriel township by the Board of Supervisors August 8, 1853, and consisted originally of the following ranches: La Puente; Los Coyotes; Nietos, with all its lines and boundary; Cienega; Mission Viega, with all its lines and boundary; and San Francisquito. [new paragraph] The township, as at present [1880] constituted, contains the following ranches:-- [table listing ranchos Azusa (Duarte), Santa Anita, San Francisquito, Potrero Grande, La Merced (old Mission), La Puente, and Potrero De Filipe; and the Lugo ranch]." This indicates that, in 1880, El Monte Township was more or less basically the western San Gabriel Valley, but east of Mission San Gabriel. The ranchos are shown on a map in "Los Angeles In Civil War Days, 1860-65," by John W. Robinson, Dawson's Book Shop (publisher), 1977. It's *not* a wonderful map, but it's all I can find so far. Ranchos Santa Anita and Azusa (Duarte) are up against the southern edge of the Sierra Madre (San Gabriel) mountains. Rancho Santa Anita is north of Mission San Gabriel. Rancho Azusa (Duarte) is east of Rancho Santa Anita. Rancho San Francisquito is south of both (and east of Mission San Gabriel), and Ranchos Potrero Grande and Potrero de Felipe are south of San Francisquito. Rancho La Puente is east of San Francisquito and Potrero de Felipe and is southeast of Rancho Azusa (Duarte). It's the western San Gabriel Valley, but east of Mission San Gabriel. Or something like that. It's late. Past time for bed. El Monte Township included the "settlement" of Duarte. I cannot find the town or settlement of Agala anywhere. Lester Powers lesterps@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.