Heather-- Thanx so much for the infor & those sites. Donna Sawtelle certainly was a "town" - the Sawtelle Disabled Veteran's Home was in it. The Sawtelle Soldier's Cemetery is now the Los Angeles National Cemetery

Donna Hull wrote: > Need some help here. I'm trying to help a friend who > has a relative who was listed in his brother's obit in > 1919 as living at Sawtelle. <...snip...> She put a > query on a census list only to be told there was no > such place. <...snip...> Today, Sawtelle is an unincorporated community -- and a part of the City of Los Angeles -- between Westwood and Santa Monica. The name "Sawtelle" is usually applied to the "old soldiers' home" there, though strictly speaking, "Sawtelle" is the name of the town, not the old soldiers' home. The old soldiers' home at (next to, but not in) Sawtelle is now the ENORMOUS Veterans' Administration complex there (on L.A. County land). Around 1919 or so, if your friend's relative was an old geezer, chances are he was at the home, otherwise if a youngun, at the town of Sawtelle. Sawtelle (the town) was annexed to the City of Los Angeles in 1922. It remains a part of the City of L.A. > for 1920 census does anyone have a clue as to how that > area was listed in Los Angeles Co.? I'm assuming it > was L. A. Co. I have a long-lost great or great-great uncle, Frederick Bartels, who, according to family legend (only) was at the L.A. "old soldiers' home," during the 1920s and/or 30s or so. The CADI does list a Frederick J. Bartels who died in L.A. on February 26, 1932, age 76 (which is about the right age for my Fred). I looked up Frederick J. Bartels in the 1920 census, and he is listed as at the "National Military Home" in "MALIBU TOWNSHIP." This Malibu stuff makes no sense, but that's what the 1920 census page says (supervisor's district 8, enumeration district 486, too). One of these years I'm going to try to get a copy of the old soldier Frederick J. Bartels' death certificate, but I sooooo procrastinate. Sigh. Anyway, presumably Sawtelle was in Malibu Township. That part of Sawtelle that was for the old soldiers, on the 1920 census, is enumeration district 486, LDS FHL microfilm number 1,820,116 -- for my Fred anyway. If you go *way* back in time, to the late 1800s, Sawtelle would have been in La Ballona Township. Lester Powers lesterps@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Could SKS please do a death certificate transcription and/or obit lookup for mew for the following person: Boyd W LEAVITT died 24 Jan 1978 in San Bernadino Co, CA Thanks in advance Lon Mason

Sawtelle certainly was a "town" - the Sawtelle Disabled Veteran's Home was in it. The Sawtelle Soldier's Cemetery is now the Los Angeles National Cemetery at 950 S. Sepulveda Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90049. Everything around there is called "Sawtelle" - Sawtelle Self Storage, Japanese Institute Of Sawtelle, Sawtelle Books & Music, etc. I'm not sure what exact area the community encompassed, but the USGS shows Sawtelle on the same map as West Los Angeles. Seams its on both sides of the 405 freeway, near UCLA. GAR has a post in Sawtelle: http://www.users.bigpond.com/bcrompton/caposts.htm http://pmiller7.home.mindspring.com/GGGrandma.jpg.html http://www.mdle.com/ClassicFilms/BTC/direct19.htm Donna Hull wrote: > > Hi-- > > Need some help here. I'm trying to help a friend who has a relative who > was listed in his brother's obit in 1919 as living at Sawtelle. I found > reference on it in a map, but PacBell doesn't have an area code. She put a > query on a census list only to be told there was no such place. > > Since I've heard of it, I think it may have been but maybe no longer a > town? ? ? ? ? > > for 1920 census does anyone have a clue as to how that area was listed in > Los Angeles Co.? I'm assuming it was L. A. Co. > > Thanx for any information you can give. > > Donna -- o Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~isabell/

Seems to me I remember Sawtelle as the name of a Veteran's Admin. Hospital in that area. It might not even still be operational, I don't believe it was ever a city. Donna Ferris Penn Valley, CA Donna Hull wrote: > Hi-- > Need some help here. I'm trying to help a friend who has a relative who > was listed in his brother's obit in 1919 as living at Sawtelle. I found > reference on it in a map but PacBell doesn't have an area code. She put a > query on a census list only to be told there was no such place. > Since I've heard of it, I think it may have been but maybe no longer a > town? ? ? ? ? > for 1920 census does anyone have a clue as to how that area was listed > in Los Angeles Co.? I'm assuming it was L. A. Co. > Thanx for any information you can give. > Donna

Hi-- Need some help here. I'm trying to help a friend who has a relative who was listed in his brother's obit in 1919 as living at Sawtelle. I found reference on it in a map, but PacBell doesn't have an area code. She put a query on a census list only to be told there was no such place. Since I've heard of it, I think it may have been but maybe no longer a town? ? ? ? ? for 1920 census does anyone have a clue as to how that area was listed in Los Angeles Co.? I'm assuming it was L. A. Co. Thanx for any information you can give. Donna

Hi all......I found these ON-LINE sites in my weekly SCOUT REPORT On-Line Books Page. The second site when you scroll down on this page is about “censored books”......both worth going to. Have fun... xxxxooo Louise King La Jolla, CA http://digital.library.upenn.edu/books/ Originally reviewed in the July 1, 1994 _Scout Report_, the On-Line Books Page has expanded considerably in the intervening six years. Edited by John Mark Ockerbloom since its inception, the site has moved with him in 1999 from Carnegie Mellon to Penn and has increased its listings from about 300 when Scout first visited the site to over 12,000 today. The site only indexes books (all located at other sites) that are full text, free, and not copyrighted. Users can search the listings by author and title, or browse by author, title, subject, new listings, or by serial archives. The site also offers three special exhibits: A Celebration of Women Writers, Banned Books On-Line, and Prize Winners On-Line (under construction). In addition, the site includes a collection of links to other electronic text resources and a list of works in preparation is also provided. An excellent portal for e-books of all kinds. http://www.lib.virginia.edu/exhibits/censored/ This companion site to a current exhibition at the University of Virginia Library Special Collections Department explores the history of censorship in America with a selection of books and items drawn from the Library. The exhibit is navigated via a pull-down menu, each section exploring censorship of a particular work, person, or medium with text and images. These include Margaret Sanger, _Grapes of Wrath_, Silenced Minorites, children's books, Elvis, and Censored Film, among others. Rather than focus exclusively on banned books, the site casts a wide net over the subject with excellent results. Well worth a visit.

Hi LJ I can do that for you next week. sorry no one responded to you. Yes we are still active on both lists. For my self, I have been on a run, with my business and other look-ups. I'm pretty well caught up now and will be happy to do that for you. Please send me the information. Lureigne maharoni@netzero.net Los Angeles County Coordinator, CAGenExchange http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=CA&county=losangeles Orange County Coordinator, CAGenExchange http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=CA&county=orange CAORANGE, List Administrator BAYER, List Administrator DURR, List Administrator Help Keep Genealogy free.....volunteer at the GenExchange List Admin can be reached at: US-Exchange-Owner@genexchange.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "lj" <laujones1@prodigy.net> To: <SOCAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 7:10 PM Subject: CAMI Trans > Does anyone do CAMI Transcriptions in San Bernardino County? I've requested > one at least 4 times. Also I've tried to join the CASANBERN and CARIVERS > lists several times and never get any confirmation or mail. Are they > active? > > Thanks, > > LJ > _______________________________________________ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html

There aren't very many copies of CAMI available for research. Off hand the only responses on it which I've seen have been from persons on NorCal. Phil pvc@vancamp.org . ----- Original Message ----- From: lj <laujones1@prodigy.net> To: <SOCAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 7:10 PM Subject: CAMI Trans > Does anyone do CAMI Transcriptions in San Bernardino County? I've requested > one at least 4 times. Also I've tried to join the CASANBERN and CARIVERS > lists several times and never get any confirmation or mail. Are they > active? > > Thanks, > > LJ > >

I need a lookup please, please. Would someone please check the Bakersfield or Kern city/county directories for this name, ca 1940-1950. Am looking for all ARNET, ARNETT, ARNETTE names. Persons: 1. Clyde E. ARNETTE. Marcheta and David ARNETTE. Marcheta, wife, David the 2-5 y/o child. I rather doubt David would be listed. This is the first real lead we have had. Clyde's occupation unknown, maybe mechanic, body and fender person. 2. Any other ARNETTE, ARNET, ARNETTs. I found a photo of David as a child, maybe 2-4, caption "Arnette land in Bakersfield." Not dated. If someone finds this any listings, please let me know, would pay for expenses to Xerox it. While I am asking, would someone please 1920 on. I don't believe I ever saw that name in the 1920 census, living in Kern county. Hoping so much to hear. Carole Beth Arnette San Antonio, TX

Since I don't know the county, I can't be more specific ... use www.vitalrec.com or www.vitalchek.com & either order on line , or use their information to contact the relevant county directly. If you don't know the county, try at the on-line CADI (Calif. Death Index). I believe that's available at ancestry.com. It will have at least the county, & depending on the year, various other info. You could also enter "Fowler" into www.55-1212.com or a searcher (Yahoo, AltaVista) & they would lead you to the county. Phil pvc@vancamp.org . ----- Original Message ----- From: Pauline Phelps <hummingbird@igalaxy.net> To: <SOCAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 8:11 PM Subject: [Fwd: Need Help] > Can any one help please??? > > Pauline > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Need Help > Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 17:59:41 EST > From: Mcj6945@aol.com > > > Hi, Could you tell me where I could write to get a death cert. I > would like > to get a copy of a death cert of a great grandmother who died in > Fowler Ca. > in 1920. > Thank You for your time. > Margie > >

Hi Everyone, I'd really appreciate it if someone would be able to do a death certificate transcription for this relative of mine. Mary Margaret NETZ born: December 11, 1905 died: July 5, 1991 (San Diego - 37) at age 85 Mother's maiden name: EVENS SS # 563-66-1106 Thank you very much! Joan - Nova Scotia, Canada

Can any one help please??? Pauline -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Need Help Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 17:59:41 EST From: Mcj6945@aol.com Hi, Could you tell me where I could write to get a death cert. I would like to get a copy of a death cert of a great grandmother who died in Fowler Ca. in 1920. Thank You for your time. Margie

Does anyone do CAMI Transcriptions in San Bernardino County? I've requested one at least 4 times. Also I've tried to join the CASANBERN and CARIVERS lists several times and never get any confirmation or mail. Are they active? Thanks, LJ

Joan; I can get it for you. It will be about 10 +/- days. Donna At 11:00 PM 11/9/00 -0400, Joan McCarron wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >I'd really appreciate it if someone would be able to do a death >certificate transcription for this relative of mine. > >Mary Margaret NETZ >born: December 11, 1905 >died: July 5, 1991 (San Diego - 37) at age 85 >Mother's maiden name: EVENS >SS # 563-66-1106 > >Thank you very much! > >Joan - Nova Scotia, Canada > > > >

I seek an obituary of the death of Cynthia Leigh Meader (4 May 1954 - 29 Nov. 1982_), possibly in Los Angeles, California. If I have it correct, hers was an unusually tragic death of some sort, though I don't know the consequences. Any assistnace will be much appreciated. Karl E. Moye Lancaster PA

-----Original Message----- From: Melinda Pickering Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 7:54 AM To: CA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CA-CENSUS] 1880 1900 / Los Angeles County / BRADY I would like to add my request if I may. Columbus Fain BRADY (Name at death, Charles T. BRADY) residence at death 4/8/1915 was Norwalk/Artesia, CA Wife: Ida Viola Children (in order of age): Vicie (Vera) Elmina, Malvin, Bessie, Sadie Louisa, Ethel Odessa "Marie", Frederick Marion "Freddie", Eula Belle, Johnny Alwin Thanks for the help Melinda -----Original Message----- From: Greenette@aol.com [mailto:Greenette@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 3:37 PM To: CA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CA-CENSUS] 1880 1900 / Los Angeles / GREEN Hello Kindly requesting a lookup in the Los Angeles Census Rev. John B. GREEN. (Methodist Minister (Hollywood) & one of the founders of USC) Lived on 5715 Virginia Ave., Los Angeles Wife: Mary Lucinda. Children: John, George, Bertha & Nellie. Thanks in advance, Janet

Can anyone help please, I haven't a clue on how to help her. Pauline -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Lost Bakersfield Letters of 1901 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:17:55 EST From: Gfletcher2000@aol.com To: hummingbird@igalaxy.net Dear Pauline: I am trying to find the family of some letters I found literally on the street in the 1970's. They were written by a man named Norton Moor who was working in the Bakersfield Oil Fields (Peerless). Two letters were to his mother and one to his grandmother. They are wonderful, adorable, sweet letters filled with descriptions of life working in the oil fields. Throughout the years I have put ads in the newspaper and made numerous telephone calls all over the country trying to locate the family; recently I have posted notices on websites, all to no avail. Do you have any ideas? Thank you, Gloria Fletcher

Is there anyone who would do a obit & dct - Riverside Co. INCLAN, Adelina b. 07 May 1912 - Arizona d. 23 Aug 1997 - La Quinta, Riverside Co., CA Thanks, Tess

I got the San Diego one for you. Donna At 08:07 AM 11/8/00 -0800, Taraleen Elliott wrote: >Could someone do death certificate transcriptions for me? > >Marth Adams Elliott >b. 1837? >d. Dec. 5, 1911 San Diego > >Lucy Ellen Elliott Fowler >b. 1/9/1871 >d. 4/6/1950 > >Henry Hiram Elliott >b. 7/4/1873 >d. 1947 Riverside > > >Thank you so much! > >Taraleen > > >