Linda; Got your DC transcriptions for Mary and found another Nappier which I did since it was the only other one with that name...just in case it is one of yours. San Diego 127-1754 Mary E. Nappier 1057 Meadow Lake Drive Visa, California Died: 2/14/1971, 3:22 am, Tri-city Hospital, Oceanside, California female, white, SS# 526-18-3472, married, housewife, age 67 Spouse: Rouse Nappier Birth: 8/7/1903, Missouri FA: unknown MO: Della Dalson Cause: Heart failure, aortic stenosis, rheumatic heart disease DR: Clyde E. Bantz Mortuary: Vista Chapel Mortuary Burial: Alta Mesa Memorial Park, Palo Alto, California Informant: Spouse In County and State: 4 years San Diego 181-2459 Rose Bell Nappier 1524 El Pado Avenue Lemon Grove, California Died: DOA 10/26/1981, 7:19 pm, Grossmont Hospital, San Diego, California female, white, SS#500-16-4245, widow, age 76, occupation=skiver x 26 years for Brown Shoe manufacturing. Birth: 4/21/1905, Missouri FA: Joseph Hutts, Missouri MO: Lula B. Lamb, Missouri Cause: Hypertensive cardiovascular disease DR: D. R. Newman Mort: Conrad Lemon Grove Mortuary Burial: 10/29/1981, Westminster Memorial Park, Westminster, California Informant: Bobbi Giles (daughter) at same address. Hope this helps. Sorry, no obits on these. Donna

Marguerite; Got it on my list to do. Donna At 01:50 AM 12/7/00 -0600, Marguerite Nivison wrote: >Can someone please do an obit and DCT for me for the following two >people: > >William H. FERGUSON >DOB 2-12-1873 >DOD 3-25-1959 >San Diego (37) >Age 86 > >Mary Glenna KLAMMER >DOB 6-1-1918 >DOD 5-1-1990 >San Diego (37) >Age 71 > >Thank you so much. >Marguerite Nivison > > >

I think Phil deserves an attaboy for all his time and effort for the leg work that is going to help a great deal of us in our family searches. ATTABOY Phil, and thank you. Lynn W

Can someone please do an obit and DCT for me for the following two people: William H. FERGUSON DOB 2-12-1873 DOD 3-25-1959 San Diego (37) Age 86 Mary Glenna KLAMMER DOB 6-1-1918 DOD 5-1-1990 San Diego (37) Age 71 Thank you so much. Marguerite Nivison

I don't know the library hours, or yours, but ... from the little league park, go south on the I-215. Take the off ramp for 5th or 6th (there's only one, but I forget) The ramp exits from the center (#1) lane of the freeway, so watch out for the people merging into the same # ! lane from the previous on ramp. Yes it's stupid to connect ramps to the fast lane, but the rail road told Cal-Trans to go take a flying ____ at a rolling donut, & you can see who prevailed. At the end of the ramp, you'll probably stop, I've never seen a green light there in 10 years. When clear, go straight ahead, & the Feldheim Library is on the right about 5 or 6 blocks down. They have free parking. The Calif History room is upstairs (elevator) but doesn't always have the same hours as the main library. Phil pvc@vancamp.org . ----- Original Message ----- From: Gregory Rogers <olsaltusa@netscape.net> To: <SOCAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 5:58 PM Subject: SOCAL VISIT TO SAN BERNARDINO > I'll be visiting the San Bernardino area this coming weekend, I'll be visiting > Little League Western Region Headquarters. As my grandfather, Earl Wallace > Rogers died in San Bernardino County in 1959. I was wondering if someone could > tell me where I might be able to complete a fast search for any documented > information on him. My guess is about the only place I'll be able to go is > the public library, but I'm open for suggestions. I'll only be in the area > Friday afternoon through Sunday, so my time for a through search is limited. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Greg Rogers > Tuolumne, CA > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail > >

I'll be visiting the San Bernardino area this coming weekend, I'll be visiting Little League Western Region Headquarters. As my grandfather, Earl Wallace Rogers died in San Bernardino County in 1959. I was wondering if someone could tell me where I might be able to complete a fast search for any documented information on him. My guess is about the only place I'll be able to go is the public library, but I'm open for suggestions. I'll only be in the area Friday afternoon through Sunday, so my time for a through search is limited. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Greg Rogers Tuolumne, CA ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail

Well folks I gotta 'fess up. Just because somebody said some while back that the early CADI existed ONLY on the original ledgers, & old poor microfilm, I had no justification to think that was all there was. & worse yet to repeat that assertion on the list as recently as yesterday. GOOD NEWS I contacted Mike Quinn at the state vital records ( you saw a msg from him forwarded yesterday) & asked ... Here's the deal .... When he took over the job, he found data on OLD data tapes. He was faced with a problem that has beset the Federal gov't & many states. Computer data on old tapes, so old, that either there is no hardware that will run them, or no software to read them. Did our hero quit ?? No !! He found a company that can read the old tapes, & the early CADI is being processed, then he will have to do a quality control process. It is unknown at this time how long this will take. But the early CADI is on the way. His answer did not address the CAMI, CABI, so I have asked if there are tapes of them, & I'll pass on whatever he says. It's a bit early on, but I think he deserves an 'attaboy to his boss or the legislature, or maybe everybody. Phil pvc@vancamp.org .

Any help would be appreciated for the following: > > > > Looking for OBIT and DCT for Gladys > > Gladys Marie (Kalbfleisch) Singer b:11/13/1907 MI d:03/29/1989 81 yrs. > > 92220 Banning Riverside Co. California >#SSDI 371-20-2321 > > Mothers Maiden "Pagel" : Fathers Last "Kalbfleisch" > > > > Looking for just Obit for Alex Singer > > Singer, Alex C. Sp. GM(K) died 3/14/80 age 85 > > Riverside 548-50-4546 #1287 #33502 > > SSDI, Alex Singer b 12/7/1894 d March 1980 SSN 548-50-4546 iss CA > > Last Res. & Benefit 92220 Banning, Riverside > > SINGER ALEXANDER (Conrad) ob 12/07/1894 (December) > > Mother's maiden name also KALBFLEISCH bp MI -- Patricia Ann Cattanach Knapp <Pat.knapp@sympatico.ca> Georgetown, ON Canada [also Foy, Singer and Johnston] http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/k/n/a/Patricia-A-Knapp/ or http://www3.sympatico.ca/pat.knapp

I would appreciate a obit lookup for BAXTER, Emily (Phelps) dod 08/23/1957. Acc to CADI died in resthome. Would appreciate know who her gc and gg c were. Thanks Carole Beth Arnette nautilus@ev1.net

From "Los Angeles: Epic of a City," by Lynn Bowman, 1974: "The bed of the stream now crosses under La Cienega Boulevard, and then for a mile and a half follows the same route as the San Diego Freeway going northwest. Perched on a bluff above the freeway, the Machado ranchhouse overloods the rushing stream of traffic where once the waters of Centinela Creek flowed quietly by." I believe this house would be on either the old Rancho Aguaje de la Centinela or Rancho La Ballona. In Inglewood? Perhaps in Centinela Park. Does anyone know if this ranch house still stands? Karla

Could SKS please do a possible look-up and take a picture for me. My GGrandfather and GGrandmother,A.H./Al & Gertrude Meyers lived on Cottage Ln, Los Angeles, Ca., I know in 1909-10. My GGrandfather worked for the railroad as an engineer when he died. I know Cottage Ln. still exists and would appreciate any information on that street and or pictures. I will be willing to pay for their gas and film. Thank You. Lureigne maharoni@netzero.net Los Angeles County Coordinator, CAGenExchange http://www.genexchange.org/state.cfm?state=CA&county=losangeles Orange County Coordinator, CAGenExchange http://www.genexchange.org/state.cfm?state=CA&county=orange CAORANGE, List Administrator CAORANGE-L@rootsweb.com BAYER, List Administrator BAYER-L@rootsweb.com DURR, List Administrator DURR-L@rootsweb.com Help Keep Genealogy free.....volunteer at the GenExchange List Admin can be reached at: US-Exchange-Owner@genexchange.org _______________________________________________ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html

The question has been asked where death records may be found for Spanish soldiers. Mr.Raymond Woods collected all available information which could be identified for each Spanish soldier between 1769 and the end of Spanish rule about 1825; and he bequeathed that collection to the Research Department of the Autry Museum of Western Heritage, 4700 Western Heritage Way, Los Angeles, CA 90027. The Research Department has assured me they will provide to any early California descendant the information it has for any three soldier ancestors the descendant claims. I encourage the use of this resource. I do not believe Mr. Woods continued his research into the Mexican Period, but I may be wrong on that. Certainly, after the Americans took over, the Mexican soldiers of the Presidios were disbanded and no records were kept by Americans that I have found. Some soldiers went back to Mexico, but most just stayed where they were in CA. The particular question about a person who disappeared from records in 1847 cannot likely be answered in military records. (Military records were among those collected by Bancroft who stored them in San Francisco, where most burned after the earthquake. Some records may now be in the Bancroft Library at Berkeley in boxes not yet indexed. That is why we have so much trouble.) Granville W. Hough.

Could I get a CAMI lookup for the couple above who were probably married in Los Angeles, CA Thanks in advance Lon MAson

Hello, am searching for Gerald Corker. He submitted some of the HICKLINs. Please contact me. Carole Beth Arnette San Antonio, TX nautilus@ev1.net

As of today: NORCAL 522 List members Total 387 on regular mail 135 on digest We gained 11 list members this month. SOCAL 243 List members Total 179 on regular mail 64 on digest We lost 1 list member this month. NORCALCHAT 19 List members Total 15 on regular mail 4 on digest We lost 1 list member this month. Visit the NORCAL Lookup Library NORCAL Library http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/norcallib.html and the NORCAL Genealogy Index http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/NORCAL%20index/ -- Yvonne Oliver Bowers, Listmom, GenConnect Administratior, Proud Rootsweb Sponsor NORCAL, SOCAL, CA-GOLDRUSH, CA-EARTHQUAKE-L,CA-CORNISH-L NORCAL Library http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/norcallib.html NORCAL Genealogy Index http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/NORCAL%20index/ CA-GOLDRUSH Most Wanted: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/CAGOLDRUSH/goldrushdigest.html Yvonne's Rootsweb Resource Page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/

Forwarding for Kurt - please reply to him directly <kurthahn@earthlink.net>. >Hello former norcal and socal friends and Hahn family researchers: > >We have posted to our FTM website a greatly expanded Heinrich Hahn >Outline Descendent Tree including over 1000 names in over 85 >California cities. Included are the following surnames: > >Hahn, Lutz, Barnett, Peters, Busick, Kramer, Pentberthy, Hutchins, >Appling, Dimter, Barton,Jordan, Blackwell, Hargis, Gover, Daudel, >Kottman, Hawkins, Rosin, VanVechyten, Gray, Griswold, Nuefeld, >Branstetter, Edwards, and Herron. > >Happy to share information. > >The tree may be accessed at > >http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/a/h/Kurt-I-Hahn/ > >Kurt and Joandell Hahn >222 Alexandria Drive >Healdsburg, California 95448-3423 >707-433-6430 phone >707-431-0905 fax >kurthahn@earthlink.net -- Yvonne Oliver Bowers, Listmom, GenConnect Administratior, Proud Rootsweb Sponsor NORCAL, SOCAL, CA-GOLDRUSH, CA-EARTHQUAKE-L,CA-CORNISH-L NORCAL Library http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/norcallib.html NORCAL Genealogy Index http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/NORCAL%20index/ CA-GOLDRUSH Most Wanted: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/CAGOLDRUSH/goldrushdigest.html Yvonne's Rootsweb Resource Page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/

It was wonderful reading the information Mr. Hough provided. I will forward the info to others that are descendents of Mariano CorderoI agree that D. Mutnicks volumes are a valuable source. Through them I was able to easily find the mission records that she sited. As far as Manual Zuniga as a child of Matias Cordero and Ma. Ygnacia Zuniga, the bap. record states father unknown. The last documentation I have been able to find on Matias is an1847 bap record. I have been unable to find a death record for Matias. Does anyone have any suggestions for me. I have checked the mission records. If he died as a member of the military where do I find what records are available? Thank you

Please can someone help me look up information on a death certificate or for the obituary that appeared in the newspaper. I am looking for information on Edward Alexander Daw DOB 12/5/1902 probable England(?) DOD 11/10/1982 Downey, California I would like to know place of birth, parents names, cause of death, wifes maiden name, etc. Hope someone can help. Jeanne BJ654@aol.com

Could someone please check for an obit for Jeanette Eubanks died 10/28/1992 . Her last Social Security payment went to Sierra Madre in Los Angles County. I submitted this before but only had Los Angles as a place of death. Hope this narrows it down. I'm trying to find a living sister of hers. Thanks for any help Rick in Ohio

I am interested in this family because Matias Cordero was son of Antonio Mariano Cordero y Núñez and Juana Francisca Pinto y Ryelas. Antonio Mariano Cordero was a soldier in the San Francisco Presidio in 1782. As he served while Spain was at war with England - during the American Revolution, he is considered a valid patriot; and his living male descendants can join the Sons of the American Revolution. Any male descendant who is interested can contact me for application information. Children of Antonio Mariano Cordero and Juana Francisca Pinto were Josef Estanislao Espina; Pedro Regalado; Miguel Estanislao; Jose Domingo, Juan de Jesus, Maria Segunda, Jose Clemente, and Matias. As a widower, Antonio Mariano Cordero md (2) Maria Gertrudis Alvarez y Rodriquez, and their ch were Paulina Maria and Vicenta. So there is a vast community of Cordero descendants who can join the SAR if they are so inclined. Now, for specific descendants of the youngest son from the first marriage, Matias. The most authenic source for Cordero information for the early period is the work of Dorothy Mutnick in her five volumes, Some Alta California Pioneers and Descendants. Her work was copied directly from mission records. Matias Cordero y Pinto (bap, Santa Barbara, Feb 1808) on May 2, 1833 md Escolastica Ygnacio Zuñiga y German (bap, San Juan Bautista Feb 1812), and their children included: Jose Delores (died 1834); Romualdo de los Delores (bap Monterey Feb 7, 1836); Maria Griselda Delores (bap Monterey Aug 3, 1837); Jose Antonio (bap Monterey May 5, 1839); Maria Griselda (bap Apr 5, 1840); Jose del Refugio (bap Monterey Aug 5 1841); Maria del Refugio (died 1842); Maria Simona Narzisa (bap Oct25 1842); Maria de los Delores del Refugio (bap Jul 1844 at Monterey); and Manuel Antonio (bap Jan 24, 1852). The 1860 census for Monterey County seems to indicate that one of the two children named Maria Griselda was present in 1860, age 22. (This age could be an error by the census taker or the census giver, but it seems more probable that the first Maria Griselda died. The other 1860 anomaly is tha Manuel Antonio was apparently recorded as Manuel Zuñiga (with his mother's surname.) Beyond this, for this family, Dorothy Mutnick sayeth not. You can go beyond this information by referring to Vol II of Marie Northrop's "Spanish Mexican Families of Early California:1769-1850, pages 52 and 53. There you will find additional marriage and spousal information on all the brothers and sisters and half-sisters of Matias Cordero. Marie Northrop, in her two volumes, does not index any person named Francisco Lugo Cordero. This person should show on all available U. S. censuses if born in 1849 in CA and died after 1920. What does each census give, beginning in 1920, then working back to and including 1850? Within the Cordero family, as in most others, there were naturales (bastards) born here and there, but the parentage can sometimes be determined by the families with whom the naturale lived. Then again the name Francisco Lugo Cordero does not ring true. Perhaps it was Francisco Lugo y Cordero, and he took his mother's name. This happened often enough for one to be cautious about any use of a double Spanish surname without the dash or the y. (Of course, families did name children for some role model, and Francisco Lugo may have been such a model.) That is what I can offer. With my regards, Granville W. Hough.