Interesting circumstances occurred on his coming with a Desert Indian and his girl friend that had the US Cavalry and everybody else chasing this boy and girl ,it was called a Indian uprising.Good read as was a movie. ================================================ Was that Willie Boy, Roland?

John No Rutherford Hayes, had been here in 1880 http://www.ohiohistory.org/onlinedoc/hayes/Volume04/Chapter43/December11.txt For one of the places he visited was Oakland, and the Cameron Stanford House, where they served Lemonade, for his wife ;-) George John Maylone <[email protected]> wrote: McKinley may indeed have been the first sitting president to visit California, since Ulysses S. Grant was "only" a former president when he arrived in San Francisco in 1879. After completing his presidency, Ulysses S Grant and his wife Julia took a world tour, which included a trip to Japan. They returned to the US through California, arriving in San Francisco and subsequently visiting Yosemite. You can read about it at: http://www.nps.gov/ulsg/AroundWorld2.html If you are anything at all in the way of a student of history, Grant is a fascinating study. Here is a collection of quotes by and about him: http://www.presidentlincoln.com/Quote6.html And another most informative web site: http://www.mscomm.com/~ulysses/ Grant's personal memoirs are considered one of the great written works in the English Language. One of the better introductions you can get to Grant, however, is Ken Burns' PBS epic, "The Civil War". That clearly frames the times and perspective from which Grant wrote his personal memoirs. General George S Patton believed himself to be an "eternal soldier" of sorts, the reincarnation of a soul whose destiny was to be born into life after life as a warrior, and whose essence had led the Carthaginians against the legions of Rome, and later fought for the armies of Rome in Europe. Ulysses Grant made no such claim, but you get the same sense of destiny about Grant and about his peers such as William Tecumseh Sherman, both of whom would likely be just another limb in someone's family tree if it were not for the extraordinary circumstances that were thrust upon them by the times in which they lived. At the time the civil war broke out in 1861, Grant, a graduate of West Point, had resigned from the military and failed as a farmer, as a realtor, found himself unable to gain employment as an engineer and was working as a clerk in his father's leather goods store. Less than 3 years later, Abraham Lincoln appointed him to be commander of the Union armies, and less than 6 years after that, he became the 18th president of the United States. Regards, John in Tollhouse On 8/18/03 8:47 AM, "Barbara Smith" wrote: > > It's my understanding that President William McKinley's visit to Los Angeles > in 1901, just month's before he was assassinated, was the first visit of a > president to California. I have more info about that visit if you want to > contact me off the list serve. > > Barbara Smith > Los Angeles > [email protected] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gregory McReynolds [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 4:57 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Former President GRANT in LA? > > > This is more of a historical rather than genealogical question, but I wonder > if anyone has information regarding a visit former President U. S. GRANT may > have made to Los Angeles? The time frame would have been probably between > 1878 and 1883. Any information is welcomed. > > Thank you, > Gregory McReynolds > Pasadena, California > > > ==== SOCAL Mailing List ==== > Please use relevant subject lines. > > > > ==== SOCAL Mailing List ==== > Do NOT post virus notices to the list. > > ==== SOCAL Mailing List ==== Please use relevant subject lines. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

Thank you to Barbara Smith, George Rushton, Roland Elliott, and John Maylone for your very helpful responses to me query regarding former President Grant's possible visit to Los Angeles. After viewing the website suggested by John it appears that though Grant finished his world (May 1877 to Sept 1879) he never stopped in Los Angeles. Thanks again, Gregory McReynolds Pasadena, California

McKinley may indeed have been the first sitting president to visit California, since Ulysses S. Grant was "only" a former president when he arrived in San Francisco in 1879. After completing his presidency, Ulysses S Grant and his wife Julia took a world tour, which included a trip to Japan. They returned to the US through California, arriving in San Francisco and subsequently visiting Yosemite. You can read about it at: http://www.nps.gov/ulsg/AroundWorld2.html If you are anything at all in the way of a student of history, Grant is a fascinating study. Here is a collection of quotes by and about him: http://www.presidentlincoln.com/Quote6.html And another most informative web site: http://www.mscomm.com/~ulysses/ Grant's personal memoirs are considered one of the great written works in the English Language. One of the better introductions you can get to Grant, however, is Ken Burns' PBS epic, "The Civil War". That clearly frames the times and perspective from which Grant wrote his personal memoirs. General George S Patton believed himself to be an "eternal soldier" of sorts, the reincarnation of a soul whose destiny was to be born into life after life as a warrior, and whose essence had led the Carthaginians against the legions of Rome, and later fought for the armies of Rome in Europe. Ulysses Grant made no such claim, but you get the same sense of destiny about Grant and about his peers such as William Tecumseh Sherman, both of whom would likely be just another limb in someone's family tree if it were not for the extraordinary circumstances that were thrust upon them by the times in which they lived. At the time the civil war broke out in 1861, Grant, a graduate of West Point, had resigned from the military and failed as a farmer, as a realtor, found himself unable to gain employment as an engineer and was working as a clerk in his father's leather goods store. Less than 3 years later, Abraham Lincoln appointed him to be commander of the Union armies, and less than 6 years after that, he became the 18th president of the United States. Regards, John in Tollhouse On 8/18/03 8:47 AM, "Barbara Smith" <[email protected]> wrote: > > It's my understanding that President William McKinley's visit to Los Angeles > in 1901, just month's before he was assassinated, was the first visit of a > president to California. I have more info about that visit if you want to > contact me off the list serve. > > Barbara Smith > Los Angeles > [email protected] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gregory McReynolds [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 4:57 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Former President GRANT in LA? > > > This is more of a historical rather than genealogical question, but I wonder > if anyone has information regarding a visit former President U. S. GRANT may > have made to Los Angeles? The time frame would have been probably between > 1878 and 1883. Any information is welcomed. > > Thank you, > Gregory McReynolds > Pasadena, California > > > ==== SOCAL Mailing List ==== > Please use relevant subject lines. > > > > ==== SOCAL Mailing List ==== > Do NOT post virus notices to the list. > >

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Gregory I do not know about L.A., but he did visit San Francisco, for he took "Around the World Tour" from May, 1877-September, 1879, The Grant's make an around the world tour, and he is besieged by crowds throughout the journey. There is no itinerary and Grant enjoys himself hugely. He said, 'I feel like a boy out of school." Jesse accompanies his parents for some of the trip, and his place is then taken by Fred. Grant routinely plows through 15 course dinners, but actually loses weight on the trip - he returns to San Francisco weighing 159 pounds. His favorite countries on the trip were Japan and Switzerland http://www.mscomm.com/~ulysses/page2.html So maybe he did visit L.A,, at least now you have a time period. George Gregory McReynolds <[email protected]> wrote: This is more of a historical rather than genealogical question, but I wonder if anyone has information regarding a visit former President U. S. GRANT may have made to Los Angeles? The time frame would have been probably between 1878 and 1883. Any information is welcomed. Thank you, Gregory McReynolds Pasadena, California ==== SOCAL Mailing List ==== Please use relevant subject lines. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

Barbara No Rutherford Hayes, had been here in 1880 http://www.ohiohistory.org/onlinedoc/hayes/Volume04/Chapter43/December11.txt For one of the places he visited was Oakland, and the Cameron Stanford House, where they served Lemonade, for his wife ;-) George Barbara Smith <[email protected]> wrote: It's my understanding that President William McKinley's visit to Los Angeles in 1901, just month's before he was assassinated, was the first visit of a president to California. I have more info about that visit if you want to contact me off the list serve. Barbara Smith Los Angeles [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Gregory McReynolds [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 4:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Former President GRANT in LA? This is more of a historical rather than genealogical question, but I wonder if anyone has information regarding a visit former President U. S. GRANT may have made to Los Angeles? The time frame would have been probably between 1878 and 1883. Any information is welcomed. Thank you, Gregory McReynolds Pasadena, California ==== SOCAL Mailing List ==== Please use relevant subject lines. ==== SOCAL Mailing List ==== Do NOT post virus notices to the list. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

Interesting circumstances occurred on his coming with a Desert Indian and his girl friend that had the US Cavalry and everybody else chasing this boy and girl ,it was called a Indian uprising.Good read as was a movie. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:47 Subject: RE: Former President GRANT in LA? > > It's my understanding that President William McKinley's visit to Los Angeles in 1901, just month's before he was assassinated, was the first visit of a president to California. I have more info about that visit if you want to contact me off the list serve. > > Barbara Smith > Los Angeles > [email protected] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gregory McReynolds [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 4:57 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Former President GRANT in LA? > > > This is more of a historical rather than genealogical question, but I wonder > if anyone has information regarding a visit former President U. S. GRANT may > have made to Los Angeles? The time frame would have been probably between > 1878 and 1883. Any information is welcomed. > > Thank you, > Gregory McReynolds > Pasadena, California > > > ==== SOCAL Mailing List ==== > Please use relevant subject lines. > > > > ==== SOCAL Mailing List ==== > Do NOT post virus notices to the list. > >

It's my understanding that President William McKinley's visit to Los Angeles in 1901, just month's before he was assassinated, was the first visit of a president to California. I have more info about that visit if you want to contact me off the list serve. Barbara Smith Los Angeles [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Gregory McReynolds [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 4:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Former President GRANT in LA? This is more of a historical rather than genealogical question, but I wonder if anyone has information regarding a visit former President U. S. GRANT may have made to Los Angeles? The time frame would have been probably between 1878 and 1883. Any information is welcomed. Thank you, Gregory McReynolds Pasadena, California ==== SOCAL Mailing List ==== Please use relevant subject lines.

Does anyone have knowledge of San Nicolas Island before the Navy took over in 1922. My grandparents,uncle and mother lived there sometime around 1914-1920. Most likely fishing and living on island. I have read of people living there in 1800's. But find nothing for 1900's. LouAnn

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This is more of a historical rather than genealogical question, but I wonder if anyone has information regarding a visit former President U. S. GRANT may have made to Los Angeles? The time frame would have been probably between 1878 and 1883. Any information is welcomed. Thank you, Gregory McReynolds Pasadena, California

Looking for information on Nettie Melisa Johnston nee Dickey, born Feb.2nd, 1873, died Feb.17th , 1946, Los Angeles, California. Who was her husband?

Hello all Would someone please give me advice on how to gain info.on the following people. This is for F.H research. Katherine Berryman nee Kitty O'Neill born Jarrow (County Durham ) now known as Tyne /Wear Katherine name may have been spelt with a C. she was born early 1900s Donald Berryman born South Shields /Jarrow Their daughter June who would now be in 65/75 ish. All I know about June is she was a dancer, worked in London, then they emigrated to Los Angelus there she worked with Jeanie Carson (hey Jeanie). she was a Roman Catholic, married but I do not know her husbands name. They also lived in Blackpool, Lancashire, before emigrating in the 1950 so Any help would be gratefully received. One known address for them was 747 1/2 LEVING AVE 9002-4 Los Angelus Calif. Best Wishes Sheila in Jarrow

I need some help, I live in Texas and need to get an Obit of my Gt Grandfather: Robert Ira Wimmer born: 07 July 1860 Died: 25 May 1928 Hawthorne, Los Angeles Co., Ca. Thank you, Michael

Can anyone tell me where I may write to in Los Angeles Co., for a copy of the obituary of: CAVALLERA  RICHARD  CHELISTINO  d. 01/04/1955  LOS ANGELES CO., (19) b. 02/04/1883  KLEE  CAVALLERA  Thank you. Margaret

Dear Flavia, Sure hope someone can help you. It's the least we can do for your wonderful work on surnames. Gary Radcliffe West Covina, CA

Saw a posting from another list, about this, which reminded me to let others know about these talks, that were recored at the Bancroft Library, earlier this spring. They are as follows: THURSDAY , AUGUST 7, 2003 - 8:00p.m.; CALIFORNIA'S GREAT THIRST: A Glance at the Contentious History of California's's Water James J. Rawls, Author & Historian Describing California's massive construction projects to deliver water for its urban and agricultural growth. THURSDAY, AUGUST 14, 2003- 8:00 p.m.; AN ENTREPRENEURIAL GENIUS: Henry J. Kaiser J.S. Holliday, Author & Historian Recounting the career of Henry J. Kaiser as an outstanding example of California's culture of risk-taking and innovation. THURSDAY, AUGUST 21, 2003 - 8:00 p.m.; KICK OUT THE SOUTHERN PACIFIC James J. Rawls, Author & Historian Recounting Hiram Johnson's campaign for Governor and the long term impact of reforms achieved under his leadership THURSDAYS AUGUST 28, 2003 - 8:00 p.m: A LIBRARY FOR Californian> J.S. Holliday, Author & Historian Describing The Bancroft Library from its origins with Hubert Howe Bancroft to the present You might want to check out KQED Radio at this site http://www.kqed.org for it looks like you can listen to them on the web. I was at the talk on Water and the Bancroft Library, I can tell you that they were very interesting. George --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

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Michael, I suggest you obtain death certificates to find out where in Orange County they died. I found a few newspapers that were published those years, but you need to know where your relatives lived in order to know where to look. You can find a link to the Orange County Vital Records office from this page of the SoCal Obituaries website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~socalobituaries/deathinfo.html The California State Library - California Section holds four newspapers that cover the years that you're searching. The California State Library does interlibrary loan, and you can get more information from their website at: http://www.library.ca.gov/ Name of Publication City/Town Month/Year Month/Year Start of Holding End of Holding Anaheim Gazette Anaheim 03 1905 11 1964 Santa Ana Daily Register Santa Ana 11 1906 03 1911 Fullerton News Fullerton 01 1907 12 1916 Evening Blade Santa Ana 01 1911 03 1918 Santa Ana Daily Evening Register Santa Ana 04 1911 03 1939 The Fullerton Public Library has microfilm and an index for Fullerton News Tribune Fullerton 04 1893 Curr Curr Fullerton News Tribune Index Fullerton 1893 1984 Contact information for Fullerton Public Library can be found at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~socalobituaries/147.html There probably are other sources for newspapers during this time but these are the only repositories that we have inventoried so far. You may want to check the California Newspaper Project if you want to identify other sources. Here's a link to their search page: http://cbsr06.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/starfinder/0?path=newsbib.txt&id=webber&pass=w ebber&OK=OK Feel free to get back in touch after you have the death certificate. I'll try to point you in the right direction after you know where to look. Paula http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~socalobituaries/ -----Original Message----- From: Michael Wimmer-Gonzales (by way of Yvonne Bowers) [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Orange Co. Obits Can someone help me, Please. I am looking for 2 Orange County Obits. Robert B. Luther, b Oct. 25,1843 Illinois. d. Sept 09, 1911, Orange Co., Ca Martha Jane (Wimmer) Luther, b Mar 22, 1852 Coloma, El Dorado Co., Ca. d mar 21, 1912, Orange Co., Ca They married Oct 15, 1867 Sonoma Co., Ca They had 10 Children. I live in Texas and I am unable to do this myself. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Michael Georg Wimmer-Gonzales [email protected]