Obituary hunting in Los Angeles is the proverbial horse of a different color. You'll find tips and lots of resources here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~socalobituaries/ The website has a link to the death certificate office - just click on the icon that looks like a governmental building. Bottom line is, Los Angeles County is ~4500 square miles, over 100 incorporated towns, millions of people and dozens of newspapers. #1 tip - get a death certificate to narrow down the search area and verify the facts. Good luck in your search. -----Original Message----- From: Diane Richey (by way of Yvonne) [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 7:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: MOREN I am trying to find information on two sisters (maiden name MOREN) who died in Los Angeles (19) per CADI. RANDOLPH, Violet Arlene, born 5/4/1912 in SD. Died 11/9/1982 - 70 yr. old. SOUKUP, Lillian Evelyn, born 1/15/1906 in SD. Died 9/3/1986 - 80 yr. old. Does anyone do lookups for obituaries, death certificates etc.? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Diane

I don't want everyone to go away with the idea that you have to get a notarized statement in order to request a death cert for genealogical use. There are two kinds of death certs -- an AUTHORIZED certified copy that is used for insurance purposes, etc. The second kind is an INFORMATIONAL certified copy for non-legal (e.g. genealogical) purposes. I requested a death certificate, which was not for a family member but was for someone I was researching for genealogical purposes, in November last year. I ordered the certificate online, and then followed up with a confirmation fax. That's it. No notarization. Quite honestly, I was surprised that it wasn't a bigger hassle. John, have you had other experiences since then? Things change so quickly that my experience may not be relevant now. Paula -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 8:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: OBITS & DEATH CERTS? In a message dated 1/25/2004 12:46:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Dear List, Can some kind soul please tell me how to secure obits in Southern CA? I have one in 1932 (b. Forest Lawn in Glendale) and one in 1980 (burial place unk). Also, what is the process for getting a CA Death Certificate? What is the address to send my request to and what is the cost? Many thanks. Judy in TX >> JUDY this is a note I sent to some of my relatives recently, Maybe it will help you. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< SNIP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subj: California New Law July 1, 2003 took effect. The new legislation passed and signed under the former Gov. Davis and his cronies, requires persons who live out of state plus those in state who need CERTIFIED copies of their BIRTH, DEATH, MARRIAGE records must complete a NOTARIZED STATEMENT sworn under penalty of perjury that the requestor is an AUTHORIZED person to receive, with requests. Many people need these for passports quickly as an example. Authorized Persons include: > The registrant or a parent or legal guardian of the registrant; > A party entitled to receive the record as a result of a court order, or an attorney or a licensed adoption agency seeking the birth record in order to comply with the requirements of section 3140 or 7603 of the family code; > A member of law enforcement agency or a representative of another governmental agency, as provided by law, who is conducting official business; > A child, grandparent, grandchild, sibling, spouse or "Domestic Partner" of the registrant; > An Attorney representing the registrant or the registrant's estate, or any person or agency empowered by statue or appointed by a court to act on behalf of the registrant or the registrant's estate; AND, > Any Funeral director that orders certified copies of a death certificate on behalf of any individual specified in paragraphs (1) to (5), inclusive, of subdivision (a) of section 7100 of the health and safety code. > > > A Certified Copy of a Birth record is required to obtain a Driver's license, passport, social security card and other services related to an individual's identity. > A certified Copy of a Death record may be required to obtain benefits, claim insurance proceeds, notify social security and obtain other services related to an individual's identity. > Birth, Death, Marriage, Requirements of the new legislation are available on the Department's automated phone system by calling (562) 462-2137 or at the website WWW.LAVOTE.NET > The California costs for Birth Record is $18, > The California costs Death Record is $13 Persons requiring MULTILINGUAL assistance are to call (800) 481-8683 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SNIP<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Source: Newspaper Article release at Norwalk, CA Registrar-Recorder/County Clerk, with enactment of SB 247 (CH. 914, Stats. 2002, pursuant to CA Health and Safety Code 103526, effective 1 July 2003. <<<<<<<<<<<SNIP<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Such Clerks are expected to return by mail as many as 500 per day, that fail to provide the Notarized statement of the requestor's identity and eligibility. >>>>>>>>>>>>SNIP<<<<<<<<<<<< My personal opinion is that such legislation SUCKS as a reminder of the HITLER & STALIN era's in this world. In the past, what starts in California in the West usually spreads Eastward. Cannot blame the Terminator by recent statements but he does support the Homeland Security of G. W. Bush administration. JOHN in CA ______________________________

I am trying to find information on two sisters (maiden name MOREN) who died in Los Angeles (19) per CADI. RANDOLPH, Violet Arlene, born 5/4/1912 in SD. Died 11/9/1982 - 70 yr. old. SOUKUP, Lillian Evelyn, born 1/15/1906 in SD. Died 9/3/1986 - 80 yr. old. Does anyone do lookups for obituaries, death certificates etc.? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Diane

In a message dated 1/25/2004 12:46:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Dear List, Can some kind soul please tell me how to secure obits in Southern CA? I have one in 1932 (b. Forest Lawn in Glendale) and one in 1980 (burial place unk). Also, what is the process for getting a CA Death Certificate? What is the address to send my request to and what is the cost? Many thanks. Judy in TX >> JUDY this is a note I sent to some of my relatives recently, Maybe it will help you. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< SNIP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subj: California New Law July 1, 2003 took effect. The new legislation passed and signed under the former Gov. Davis and his cronies, requires persons who live out of state plus those in state who need CERTIFIED copies of their BIRTH, DEATH, MARRIAGE records must complete a NOTARIZED STATEMENT sworn under penalty of perjury that the requestor is an AUTHORIZED person to receive, with requests. Many people need these for passports quickly as an example. Authorized Persons include: > The registrant or a parent or legal guardian of the registrant; > A party entitled to receive the record as a result of a court order, or an attorney or a licensed adoption agency seeking the birth record in order to comply with the requirements of section 3140 or 7603 of the family code; > A member of law enforcement agency or a representative of another governmental agency, as provided by law, who is conducting official business; > A child, grandparent, grandchild, sibling, spouse or "Domestic Partner" of the registrant; > An Attorney representing the registrant or the registrant's estate, or any person or agency empowered by statue or appointed by a court to act on behalf of the registrant or the registrant's estate; AND, > Any Funeral director that orders certified copies of a death certificate on behalf of any individual specified in paragraphs (1) to (5), inclusive, of subdivision (a) of section 7100 of the health and safety code. > > > A Certified Copy of a Birth record is required to obtain a Driver's license, passport, social security card and other services related to an individual's identity. > A certified Copy of a Death record may be required to obtain benefits, claim insurance proceeds, notify social security and obtain other services related to an individual's identity. > Birth, Death, Marriage, Requirements of the new legislation are available on the Department's automated phone system by calling (562) 462-2137 or at the website WWW.LAVOTE.NET > The California costs for Birth Record is $18, > The California costs Death Record is $13 Persons requiring MULTILINGUAL assistance are to call (800) 481-8683 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SNIP<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Source: Newspaper Article release at Norwalk, CA Registrar-Recorder/County Clerk, with enactment of SB 247 (CH. 914, Stats. 2002, pursuant to CA Health and Safety Code 103526, effective 1 July 2003. <<<<<<<<<<<SNIP<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Such Clerks are expected to return by mail as many as 500 per day, that fail to provide the Notarized statement of the requestor's identity and eligibility. >>>>>>>>>>>>SNIP<<<<<<<<<<<< My personal opinion is that such legislation SUCKS as a reminder of the HITLER & STALIN era's in this world. In the past, what starts in California in the West usually spreads Eastward. Cannot blame the Terminator by recent statements but he does support the Homeland Security of G. W. Bush administration. JOHN in CA

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You will find lots of helpful information about searching for obituaries at this website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~socalobituaries/ The bottom line is, before you start looking for an obit, you really need a death certificate. The website explains why. There is also a link to the LA County Recorder's office, where you can order a death certificate. The link to the recorder's office is here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~socalobituaries/deathinfo.html Good luck in your search. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 12:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: OBITS & DEATH CERTS? Dear List, Can some kind soul please tell me how to secure obits in Southern CA? I have one in 1932 (b. Forest Lawn in Glendale) and one in 1980 (burial place unk). Also, what is the process for getting a CA Death Certificate? What is the address to send my request to and what is the cost? Many thanks. Judy in TX

Dear List, Can some kind soul please tell me how to secure obits in Southern CA? I have one in 1932 (b. Forest Lawn in Glendale) and one in 1980 (burial place unk). Also, what is the process for getting a CA Death Certificate? What is the address to send my request to and what is the cost? Many thanks. Judy in TX

Tennessean.com Obituaries Content copyright by The Nashville Tennessean --> Tennessean.com. The Nashville Tennessean's online source for news, Joseph Clem CARTER Long Beach, CA Born June 23, 1938. Passed away at St Mary's Hospital, Long Beach, CA, Monday, January 12, 2004. Preceded in death by his parents, Frederick Tela and Myrtle Minvera Carter. Survived by loving and devoted wife, Susie Talley Carter; daughter, Pamela (Sean) McCann; grandchildren, Dylan, Devin; brother, Edward William Carter; sister, Nellie Carter Hall; and a host of other relatives and friends. Visitation Sunday, January 25, 2004, 2 - 7 p.m. at Smith Brothers Funeral Home. Graveside service Monday, January 26, 2004, 1 p.m. Middle Tennessee Veterans Cemetery. SMITH BROTHERS FUNERAL DIRECTORS, INC., 706 Monroe St., Henry L. and Melvin J. Smith, Directors (615) 726 - 1476. Ray [email protected] In the Evergreen State Virus Protected by Norton and ZoneAlarm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004

I believe that Lloyd Hamilton was in the Army in WWII. The Hamilton clan may have all moved to the Longbeach, CA area some time in the early 1900's. There was an Alice E. Hamilton wh married a McElroy (spelling). A Mabel E. Hamilron who married a Oscar Hoffman. They all ended up in southern CA. Jeanette

A news article for the archives - on the same page as an article about one of my family: From The Los Angeles Times, March 11, 1919: "ACCIDENT VICTIM DIES - - Two Women in Auto Hit by Car May Also Not Survive - - James Karle, 20 years old, a shipyard worker living at 1331 West Seventeenth street, this city, died at the Pasadena Hospital yesterday. He was one of four young persons injured when an automobile was struck and wrecked by a Pacific Electric car at Oneonta station on Sunday - - Mr. Karle and his sister, Lydia Karle, 19, were accompanying Helen Hansen, 15, to her home at 251 North Craig street, Pasadena. The auto was driven by Owen F. Snyder. The street car motorman reported that Shyder turned directly in front of the car, apparently not seeing it. - - Karle died soon after his removal to the Pasadena Hospital, and there is little hope for the recovery of the young women."

Jenny Check the Oakland phone books from 1959 to 1963 and no one with that last name, also check the San Francisco phone books and directories for those same years also no one with that last name listed. Sorry George Jenny McEwan <[email protected]> wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: Jenny McEwan To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:26 PM Subject: City directories or phone book Hello listers, Could some kind person be able to search city directories or phone books for any LOWBERG in Riverside, Oakland or Berkeley San Fransisco around the period 1960-3? LOWBERG is a very very uncommon name. Particularly looking for a Vivian or Samuel but all would be related. Much appreciated Jenny from Australia ==== SOCAL Mailing List ==== Do NOT post virus notices to the list. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!

There is a monument dedicated to the officers and men of USS Hoel, USS Johnston and USS Samuel B. Roberts at Fort Rosecrans National Cemetery, Point Loma, San Diego, California. It was erected in 1995. I wonder if there is anyone on this list who can check this momument - under USS Johnston, there should be a Grant M. Hodges. I would like verification, if possible. Thank you, Flavia Hodges, San Pablo, CA

----- Original Message ----- From: Jenny McEwan To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:26 PM Subject: City directories or phone book Hello listers, Could some kind person be able to search city directories or phone books for any LOWBERG in Riverside, Oakland or Berkeley San Fransisco around the period 1960-3? LOWBERG is a very very uncommon name. Particularly looking for a Vivian or Samuel but all would be related. Much appreciated Jenny from Australia

Is there someone on this list who does San Bernardino death certificate abstracts (if that county allows that to be done)? Please contact me off-list. Mary

Hi all, and Yvonne, I wanted to see the show a second time so as to clarify things in my mind. The program, for those who missed it, is not just about the 1906 earthquake and the cover-up, but includes info on what would happen if the same earthquake would happen today. Sure are a bunch of dirty little secrets. According to the show: 1. Using Photoshop and other new imaging equipment, "they" analyzed photos taken of SF (downtown mainly) just after the earthquake. They show lots of retouching that had been done that makes buildings that had been seriously damaged by the quake appear to be just slightly damaged, so they could claim that the major damage was from the fire - and fire insurance would cover it. Some entrepreneurs of the day deliberately torched their buildings so insurance would cover them. Calif. Gov. Pardee (does anyone know more about his genealogy?) and the other "power-brokers" at that time got together to put a "spin" on the reportage that came out, for several reasons: To make sure people kept settling in the area by making sure that almost all damage was seen as fire damage; To build as many buildings as possible to make SF look like "new" for the 1915 Exposition (meaning that buildings built *after* 1906 had a much lower standard of construction than before); And to sweep as much as possible under the rug, including the number of dead. And, with precious little application of the knowledge they already had in 1906 about how to build safe buildings, they succeeded in making the city appear as good as new. 2. Folks who live there now, if they know where to look outside the tourist/business areas, can find buildings that'd be torn down today as unsafe, but allowed to stand after 1906 and that have never been torn down. Cracks, some pretty bad, with perhaps a half-inch separation between the sides of the cracks, are still standing and many are being lived or worked in. 3. The death toll from the '06 Quake was a lot higher than was officially issued. Someone on the show fairly recently (should've written down her name) went through the Halls of Records and everywhere else she could find info, and researched the *real* death tally, and came to at least 3000, not including those the cops killed to "maintain law and order." That official (law & order) count was something on the order of 25-50 shot by police, if I remember the program right, but it turns out to be closer to about 500. Seems some people may've been shot "because they were there" or because of race. It was kind of like the old vigilante days. And I'm sure there were others shot by citizens with guns, rightly or wrongly. There was footage showing a few of the dead just lying on streets, and talk of the horror of that moment in time, but I couldn't help remembering that folks back then were much more inured to death than we are today, and how different our reactions would probably be under the same circumstances (remembering Caruso's stay at the St. Francis at that time). 4. If an earthquake like the 1906 one were to happen today (they did estimated death tallies, but, again, I didn't write them down): a) Downtown and the south of Market area will be one of the worst hit: The highest highrises will be OK, but many of the ones below 40 stories may not be (something to do with sway factor & other techie stuff). b) The Marina Dist. will be a disaster, due to liquifaction, of course, but much worse than in 1989 (which they compared with the 1906 quake a lot); in fact, anywhere that's been built on landfill, including parts of downtown. c) But the worst hit of all will be another Dist. - I think the Richmond - full of those ticky-tacky boxes Malvina Reynolds referred to in her folk song. In other words, shoddy housing construction will account for the largest number of deaths. d) Nob Hill was, in 1906, one of the least damaged, being built on solid rock, and should be the same today as long as it's saved from fire. A lot of talk was on retrofitting. City Hall's been done (all that was left, as most of you know, was the dome), the Golden Gate Bridge is being done (when this program was made), and the Bay Bridge will be. Other places have been and/or are being planned to, but the cost, as I'm sure you know, is ghastly. But they kept raising the question of whether SF could afford all the needed retrofitting balanced against loss of life etc. They did lots of scientific testing of what happens on various soils when various Richtor factors were applied. Very interesting. Someone on the show momentarily referred to the epicenter, but I'm afraid I didn't catch what was said (I was having a bit** of a time trying to record the show, and still don't know if I succeeded - that's what comes of having too many gadgets all routed through the cable system - the latest was a DVD player). And I don't know if it gave enough info to pin it down: They said something like: "This is what it would have seemed like at the epicenter" but I wasn't watching. Sorry, Carolyn. Lest you think I'm a total newbie re earthquakes in the Bay Area, from 1966 through half of 1973 I lived in Berkeley, home of the Hayward Fault, and although I missed any of the larger ones, there was one during the time I was there. It was gentle enough not to be really scary, but it happened just before the late news, and while they were talking about it, there was an aftershock, with news viceocams swaying.... I think it scared my cat more than me - I've never before or since seen such a reaction - eyes wide as saucers. A few of you might even remember it. Yvonne, might I impose on you again to post this on NORCAL, or could someone else on the NORCAL list post this? [I think this is the longest missive I've posted in a long time! <grin>] Thanks, Carol Tucson At 07:22 AM 1/20/04 -0800, carolyn wrote: >Well, sorry to say I missed the program........... > >Did anyone else see it........any more clarification on the "cover-up" of >damages pertaining to the fire vs quake? >Also, did they mention the epicenter? It is so curious to me that this >seems to be a hard question to get an answer to----could it be that the >science was not able to pin this down and the answer is left to speculaton? > >Best, Carolyn > >carolyn wrote: > >>Thanks Carol- I'll be watching- >> >>It was recently mentioned on another list that Santa Rosa was the >>epicenter of the 06 quake- that was "news to me"! I had heard Olema was >>the epicenter- >> >>I did some googling to see what I could find- I did find several sites >>that point to Olema as the epicenter- and a couple say it was "off the >>coast north of the City" and a couple that say it was "south of the >>city". Even found one where the Clampers are erecting a plaque in Daly >>City to indicate the epicenter was offshore from there........... >> >>I sent two emails to USGS folks asking for their official answer about a >>month ago, and have not had a reply from them. >> >>What information do you folks have on the documented epicenter of the 06 >>quake? >> >>When the Santa Rosa information was posted to NORCAL it was never >>questioned by any of the other listers.........yet, I cannot find >>anything saying it was the epicenter................. >> >>Your input appreciated. >> >>Thanks, Carolyn > > >Carol De Priest ><mailto:[email protected]> >Honest Intellectual Inquiry ><http://www.dakotacom.net/~depriest> > >Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live >forever. ----Gandhi

www.4dw.net/socal For those of you who aren't aware of the Southern California Students Yearbooks web page, you might take a look at it. Several people have found family members listed there and a very few have even found photographs of their recent ancestors. All the yearbooks I've used for the students' listings were at least 50 years old. The page was originally intended for Los Angeles students only because that is the area of my genealogical search. However, I often could not resist an old yearbook from another county when I came across one. So, The Los Angeles Students web page became the Southern California Students web page. Basically, the geographical cut-off is the northern Los Angeles County line, but I found a few Ventura and Santa Barbara yearbooks that I couldn't resist . . . Updating and maintaining the page has been a wonderful experience. I've 'met' some very nice and very interesting people. I even heard from a 1934 graduate of one of the schools who was disappointed because photographs of several of her classmates appeared in the listing, but hers did not? (I've since obtained another yearbook for that school in which her photograph appears, but haven't had time to get the information and the pictures transcribed and uploaded.) After several months of weighing my options for keeping the web page going and yet getting some things done around here - I think I've come up with a solution: Is there anyone out there who would like to take over part or parts of the page? The listings and data could be split by county and new web pages could be created. San Diego County and Imperial County are the most represented areas, other than Los Angeles. There are also a few Anaheim yearbooks listed on the page. We could even split Los Angeles - Pasadena has a good start and I have no genealogical interest in that area. Mine is not a commercial site. There are no ads and there is absolutely no financial incentive for maintaining the web site. I hope that anyone to whom I turn over parts of the data ( and maybe a few yearbooks) would keep their site non-commercial, also. Knowledge of web site design is not a requirement for creating a web page. I know! I didn't know anything about html or tables or anything else when I listed my first yearbooks. I don't know much more now, but I keep everything simple and have only had a few disasters . . . Well, I'm still considering whether to hit 'send' - or delete this message. I feel like I'm giving up a child. If you're interested, or just curious . . . we can talk. Karla

I s there someone living in or near Porterville who can look and see what is now located at 133 School Street. Mom was born there, but parents (married in 1929) are not in the census for Porterville. Thinking address is a home above a bakery. May have been overlooked. Thank you - Diane

Hi all, A while ago I referred to a program I'd seen on TV regarding the 1906 San Francisco earthquake and the supposed cover-up regarding the damage done by the earthquake as opposed to the fire - if you get the Discovery Channel, it will be on again thie evening. Here in Tucson it will be airing at 6pm, so the time in California might be one hour later or earlier. The program is under the generic name "Unsolved History", and the name of the show is "1906: The Great Quake Cover-Up." Yvonne, could you please see that the NORCAL folks get this? I'm sure they'll want to see it. Thanks. Enjoy! Carol Carol De Priest <mailto:[email protected]> Honest Intellectual Inquiry <http://www.dakotacom.net/~depriest> Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever. ----Gandhi

Forgot I have Dishnet Work, so it maybe diff. on Cable. Sorry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 1:47 PM Subject: Re: 1906 San Francisco Earthquake > I will show at 2 PM in Wa. state, maybe the west coast > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol De Priest" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 12:57 PM > Subject: 1906 San Francisco Earthquake > > > > Hi all, > > > > A while ago I referred to a program I'd seen on TV regarding the 1906 San > > Francisco earthquake and the supposed cover-up regarding the damage done > by > > the earthquake as opposed to the fire - if you get the Discovery Channel, > > it will be on again thie evening. Here in Tucson it will be airing at 6pm, > > so the time in California might be one hour later or earlier. The program > > is under the generic name "Unsolved History", and the name of the show is > > "1906: The Great Quake Cover-Up." > > > > Yvonne, could you please see that the NORCAL folks get this? I'm sure > > they'll want to see it. Thanks. > > > > Enjoy! > > Carol > > > > > > Carol De Priest > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > Honest Intellectual Inquiry > > <http://www.dakotacom.net/~depriest> > > > > Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live > > forever. ----Gandhi > > > > > > ==== SOCAL Mailing List ==== > > Do NOT post virus notices to the list. > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004 > > > ==== SOCAL Mailing List ==== > Do NOT post virus notices to the list. > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004

I will show at 2 PM in Wa. state, maybe the west coast ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol De Priest" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 12:57 PM Subject: 1906 San Francisco Earthquake > Hi all, > > A while ago I referred to a program I'd seen on TV regarding the 1906 San > Francisco earthquake and the supposed cover-up regarding the damage done by > the earthquake as opposed to the fire - if you get the Discovery Channel, > it will be on again thie evening. Here in Tucson it will be airing at 6pm, > so the time in California might be one hour later or earlier. The program > is under the generic name "Unsolved History", and the name of the show is > "1906: The Great Quake Cover-Up." > > Yvonne, could you please see that the NORCAL folks get this? I'm sure > they'll want to see it. Thanks. > > Enjoy! > Carol > > > Carol De Priest > <mailto:[email protected]> > Honest Intellectual Inquiry > <http://www.dakotacom.net/~depriest> > > Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live > forever. ----Gandhi > > > ==== SOCAL Mailing List ==== > Do NOT post virus notices to the list. > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004