In a message dated 8/31/98 0:08:14 AM EST, kirkemo@olywa.net writes: << Hello, I just recently learned of my descent from Nicholas and Constance (Hopkins) Snow. I have reviewed two principal sources: 1. "Mayflower Families Through Five Generations" by John Austin, and 2. "Cape Cod Series Vol. 1, History and Genealogy of the Mayflower Planters" by Leon Hills. It appears nothing is known about the ancestry of Nicholas, but I'm hoping something more recent may be available. I'd also be interested in any resource material available with useful information about Nicholas. >> 30 Aug 1998 Hi Jane & Gordon In MF5G Vol. VI <Hopkins - lst ed> Judge Austin indicates that Nicholas Snow "may be the Nicholas bp. 25 Jan. 1599 at St. Leonard's, Shoreditch, London, England, son of Nicholas Snow of Hoxton, Co. Middlesex. "May be's" in genealogy often get translated into "definites" and far too many sources about Nicholas Snow quote this as factual information, when indeed I have never seen anything close to primary evidence that links the Nicholas Snow with the Nicholas baptized in St. Leonards. It seems important that genealogists working on the Nicholas and Constance Snow family make certain the "maybe" is properly footnoted. Little has been found of Stephen Hopkins first wife, whose is the mother of Nicholas Snow's wife Constance or Constanta as she is called by Governor Bradford in his "Plimouth Plantation". However, a Hopkins researcher informed me some months ago that he had found primary evidence of the wife's first name and other important data when presented <soon> in one of the leading genealogy journals and will shed more light on this undiscovered part of Constance Hopkins maternial side. So new research is always turning up and hopfully someday the parentage of Nicholas Snow shall be found. Do keep in mind the great fire of London which destroyed a mile of the city in the 1660's. Many valuable church records were lost and I suspect some that relate to the pilgrim company who settled at Plymouth in 1620. Snow was a common English name and found in many of the county shires of England. For example in NEHGR Vol 39 page 166: Genealogy Gleanings in England under the will of Joseph Walker, mention is made to kinswoman Mary wife of Nicholas Snow, Armorer of London. Nicholas Snow's daughter Sarah married a Walker. While there is nothing to suggest that this NIcholas and Mary are kinsfolks of our Plymouth/Eastham Nicholas Snow it does indicate other possibilities exsist concerning the English orgins of Nicholas Snow which should be explored. Perhaps with the spread of the inter-net information those of us interested in Nicholas Snow's orgins will find some hard evidence of his parentage? Some sources concerning Nicholas Snow of Plymouth and Eastham, Massachusetts are: (1) Library of Cape Cod, No. 34, "Nicholas Snow of Eastham, by James W. Hawes, Yarmouthport, Mass., C. W. Swift, Publisher and Printer. The "Register" Press. 1916. 24 pages. It is a well written document with sources documented, so that one might follow the references to read the primary source documents. <This booklet is not easy to find, but copies are located in the NEHGR Lending Library and the State of Maine Library in Augusta and the Eastham Historical Society, P.O. Box BB, North Eastham, MA 02651 had copies for sale @ $10.00 each but this was 1988, so it could be more now. The Cap Cod Series included some 100+ booklets published about early cape cod. Sometime in the early 1990's a Col. Leonard Smith gathered them all together, added an every name index for the whole series, and published them in a Two Volume set titled: "Cape Cod Library" of Local History and Genealogy A Facsimile Edition of 108 Pamphlets Published in the Early 20th Century Genealogy Publishing Company, Inc. 1001 N. Calvert Street, Baltimore, MD 21202 (1992) If your interested in reading original source documents the twelve volume set of Plymouth Colony Documents is great reading. Starting in the early 1630's you will find reference after reference to our Nicholas Snow and his family. These records were published in the 1850's under direction of the Massachusetts Commonwealth and are often available in many State Libraries or private libraries with large genealogy holdings. In 1968 AMS Press, Inc. New York, N.Y. 10003 reprined the entire 12 volume set and reissued the 12 volumes in a six set publication. Some libraries carry the newer 1968 six volumes containing all of the original 12 volumes. You will find Nicholas Snow's appoinments to a variety of public service tasks. His serving on judicial bodies, and other references, including allocations of lands. His arrival on the Ship Anne in 1623 is well documented in "Of Plimouth Plantation." a manuscript written by Gov. William Bradford and printed in a variety of books. The Book I have is Bradfor's History "Of Plimoth Plantation. Printed under the direction of the Secretary of the Commonweath of Massachusetts. Boston. Wright & Potter Printing Co., State Printers. 1898. Bradford's description of the arrival of the passengers is graphic to whit: p 171-175 "About 14 days after came in this ship, caled ye Anne, whereof Mr. William Peirce as mr., and aboute a weeke or 10 days after came in ye pinass which in foule weather they lost at sea, a fine new vessell of about 44. tune, which ye company had builte to stay in the cuntrie. They brought about 60. persons for ye generall, some of these being very usefull persons, and became good members to ye body, and some were ye wives and children of shuch as wee hear allready. And some wee so bad, as they were faine to be at charge to send them home again ye next year. ... <some> passengers, when they saw their low & poore condition a shore, were much danted and dismayed, and according to their diverse humores were diversly affected; some wished them selves in England again; others fell a weeping, fancying their own miserie in what yey saw now in others; other some pitying the distress they saw their freinds had been long in, and still were under; in a word, all were full of sadness. Only some of their old freinds rejoyed to see them, and yt it was no worse with them, for they could not expecte it should be better, and now hoped they should injoye better days togeather. And truly it was no marvel they should be thus affected, for they were in a very low condition, many were ragged in aparell, & some litle beter then halfe naked; thought some yt were well stord before, were well enough in this regard. But for food they were all alike; save some yt had got a few pease of ye ship yt was last hear. The best dish they could presente their freinds with was a lobster, or a peece of fish, without bread or any thing els but a cupp of fair spring water. And ye long continuance of this diate, and their labours abroad, had something abated ye freshnes of their former complexion. But God gave them health and strength in a good measue; and shewed them by experience ye truth of yt word, Deut. 8.3. Yt man liveth not by bread only, but by every word yt proceedeth out of ye mouth of ye Lord doth a man live. This arrival goes on for several more pages discussing the general famine and how they would feed the new comers. These will still hard days for our ancestors even two years after their arrivial at Plymouth in 1620. But they did survive. The Mayflower Descendant has many references to Nicholas Snow which include his will, his sharing in the Division of Land <1623> His sharing in the Division of Cattle <1627> The first 46 volumes of this Mayflower Publication has been put on CD ROM and is available at a very reasonable cost through the Sales Office of NEHGS in Boston. Would be most happy to share lines with you as I am a descendant of Nicholas and Constance through their son Marke Snow. Can accept GEDCOMS or letter attachments. Welcolme to the Snow List. Ernie Christensen, Fort Myers, Fl.