Does anyone on the Hubbard list have anything which might connect to this? My thinking is that since Rebeckah Snow & Thomas Force Palmer named their 2nd daughter Lydia Hubbard Palmer, that this could be the maiden name of Rebeckah's mother (Hubbard it is not a Palmer name). Lydia's husband (the father of Rebeckah Snow) might have been Joseph Snow or Samuel Snow or . . . .? We know that Rebeckah had a brother named Samuel Snow, as both families were in Warsaw, Genesee Co. NY census 1820. Also Rebeckah named her first son Joseph, so possibly Joseph was her father's name. Do any of these names mean anything to anyone on the Hubbard list? FIRST GENERATION Thomas Force Palmer (1787-1865) NJ>NY>OH>IL and his wife Rebeckah Snow (1790-1854) RI>NY>OH>IL, marr May 20, 1815 at Broadalbin, Montgomery Co. NY. This is SW of Saratoga. They then located to western NY: Warsaw, Genesee Co. (today Wyoming Co., which was formed in 1841) where on Aug. 12, 1817 their second child was born, daughter . . . SECOND GENERATION LYDIA HUBBARD PALMER (we know nothing of Rebeckah Snow's parents, and so think that her mother or grandmother might have been a "Lydia Hubbard" . . .? Anyway . . . . Lydia Hubbard Palmer b. Warsaw, NY and she continues the westward treck with her parents to Chatham, Mediana Co., OH by abt 1832, remaining there until about 1842, when her parents move further west to Sugar Grove, Kane Co. IL. In the meantime, on Jun 12, 1839 Lydia marries to ORRIN GRIDLEY. No record of where, but likely Medina Co. OH. Lydia & Orrin locate to Clear Lake, Iowa . . . not sure when, before or after their children? I do not know. Lydia died, likely Clear Lake, IA Dec 22, 1903. They had: THIRD GENERATION HENRY ORRIN GRIDLEY b. Aug 1, 1840. d. Jun 18, 1842 HENRIETTA GRIDLEY b. June 6, 1843 m. Isaac Duke on Mar 9, 1871. She died on Dec 3, 1907. Isaac b. Jan 2, 1844 d. Mar 21, 1925. SARAH AURETTA GRIDLEY b. Feb 22, 1847, marr. William Cooper Sep 24, 1867, and she died Apr 12, 1896. Cooper b. Lafayette Twp, Medina Co. OH Sep 19, 1845, d. Clear Lake, IA Sep 4, 1901. SHUBAEL ORRIN GRIDLEY b. Jun 28, 1849. He married Lepha Eddy Sep 24, 1870. He died at Clear Lake, IA Oct 19, 1925. FOURTH GENERATION & BEYOND 4) Henrietta Gridley & Isaac Duke 5) Cora M. Duke b. Jul 19, 1874. Marr Henry Rankin Aug 14, 1895. They had: 6) Vera Rankin b. Sep 10, 1906; Harry Duke Rankin b. Dec 15, 1909; Josephine Rankin b. Nov. 30, 1911. 5) Orrin J. Duke b. Jul 21, 1878 m. Olive Monzingo on Sep 25, 1901. 6) Raymond Lee Duke b. Jun 10, 1904 6) Charles Haven Duke b. Jun 17, 1908 6) Lucile Katherine Duke b. Jul 17, 1910 4) Sarah Auretta Gridley & William Cooper: 5) Lydia Mae Cooper b. Medina Co. OH May 14, 1870. Married John C. Gohlman of Sabula, IA. He was killed by lightening Mitchell, SD Jul 8, 1902 (children unknown). Lydia was young, did she marry again? Do not know, but seems likely. 5)Lillian Marie Cooper b. Fairfield OH Nov 1872. Married Edward Herbet Gridley of Medina Co. OH at Chapin IA Apr 5, 1899. He died at Lodi, OH Nov. 23, 1921. Was he related? How? Unknown. Did they have children? Unknown. 4) Shubael Orrin Gridley & Lepha Eddy: 5) Novella Lepha Gridley b. Feb 7, 1872. Marr Ellis Studyvin Feb 17, 1910. No children. 5) Eddy Bernard Gridley b. Mar 30, 1874. Marr. Hattie Bayliss on Jul 2, 1895. 6) Theo Helen Gridley b. Feb. 25, 1896 m. Algert Peterson Aug 31, 1915 had 7) Lynn Peterson b. Apr 12, 1918 7) Helen Lucile Peterson b. Apr 11, 1923 6) Leon Bernard Gridley b. Apr 22, 1897. Served in France WWI. Marr Mildred Hengel Sep 7, 1923 6) Edwin Harold Gridley b. Oct 6, 1899 6) Vada Novella Gridley b. Jul 8, 1902 Marr. William Stock Aug 13, 1923. 7) William Stock b. Jul 11, 1924. 6) Ila Ruth Gridley b. Mar 7, 1909 5) Orrin Ephraim Gridley b. Aug 19, 1876 m. Mayme Bronson on Jul 12, 1923. Children ? 5) Lydia Venila Gridley b. Dec 11, 1878, d. Sep 2, 1879 ______________________________________________________________________________ ________________ So there you have it; My Palmer descendants down to the Gridley etal ancestors, likely of Clear Lake, Iowa area. I have not done extensive research into this family . . . but now seems like a good place to start. Any help and ideas that you can offer would be great. I shall also send a copy of this to the Iowa-Nebraska List. I look forward to hearing from you. Peter Burrows, Annapolis, MD