This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FaIBAIB/58.1387.1408.1.1 Message Board Post: Richard, It does not say in the information I have, However if this helps- The brothers departed from Holland and the Father's name was Nicholas also. Let me know if this helps. Vicki