Look on the bright side at least they didn't mention the supposedly mother Anna Chrisman nor do they give any dates. The one thing that is worrisome is the fact they can't find him on any 1790 census which would indicate he moved to Kentucky after 1790 and before 1800 where we do find him and James and several other Smothers living in the Ohio County area. I checked out those other Williams living in those other counties of Kentucky and it appears they are all still living in those counties in following years. Love me ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nena Smothers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 7:12 AM Subject: Re: [SMOTHERS] William Smithers/Smothers > Velda: it bottles my mind that the influence of a cousin has so > infilteratrated even the Ky history books...there is NO, and I repeat NO > SOUND PROOF< DATA< for any of that information...my cousin and I have nearly > exhausted all sources to confirm just what you said. Where Elsie Turk got > that info or Laura Wright got it is totally beyond our comprehension. Its > just been repeated generation to generation as truth, as lots of history > books are...with no sound validity...if only we could confirm such...we wish > we could, we cant and that is the bottom line as it stands presently!..we > can't substantiate Bill's dob, where he was born, much less who his parents > are/were...we just don't know...it all sounds good...the facts about > Yellowbanks and Fort Vienna are basically true and his travels to Tx can be > well documented, but his journeys in Va, Ky and Ind and even his two > marriages can not be validated...much to our chagrim....thank you for this > info thoug...its another source we will need to correct when we do find some > validation. > > > >From: Davie H Meadows <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [SMOTHERS] William Smithers/Smothers > >Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 01:09:20 -0600 > > > >Hello Noah > > > >In the Kentucky History book I had in the 8th grade has this to say about > >William ( Bill) Smothers. > > > >In 1797 the town of Hopkinsville was laid out and about the same year > >William Smithers, popularly > >called "Bill Smothers" made a settlement on the present site of Owensbore. > >Smithers was born on > >the border of Virginia near the Holston River. His father was killed by > >Indians when "Bill " was only > >twelve years old, and his mother died shortly afterwards. Before dawn on > >the day following his mother's burial he went and stood by the graves of > >his > >parents and lifting his hand to heaven he made a vow to devote his life to > >killing Indians. > >He fullfilled his vow at every opportunity. He was with Issac Shelby in > >the > >battle of King's Mountain. Shortly afterwards he married, and with his > >wife > >settled in Kentucky.About 1798 he built cabin and hunters lodge on the > >present site of > >Owensboro. > > > >Hope this helps. > > > >Velda Meadows > > > >ps I have this 8th grade history book. They didn't use it after that year. > >They were given to who wanted them. > >Since i am also related to the Smothers I had to have one. This was in > >1954. Copyright 1935. > >Velda > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Noah E Smothers" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 9:20 PM > >Subject: [SMOTHERS] William Smithers/Smothers > > > > > > > I have been looking through the Reconstructed 1790 census for Kentucky, > > > Kentucky was formed from Virginia in 1792, so the first Kentucky census > >was > > > actually in Virginia. > > > Looking through the Kentucky census index there is no Smothers listed in > > > 1790,(keeping in mind that indexs are not always correct), however > >there > >is > > > Smithers and Smithy: It is very possible that one of these is the > >William > > > (Bill) Smothers. > > > > > > First Census of Kentucky 1790 > > > Thos. Nelson Smithers, 11/22/1792 > > > Thos. Fayette Smithy, 2/26/1790 > > > William Fayette Smithy, 2/26/1790 > > > Robert Fayette Smither, 7/9/1789 > > > Robert Woodford Smither 5/27/1790 > > > Wm. Fayette Smither 7/9/1789 > > > Wm. Woodford Smither, 5/27/1790 > > > > > > Is either Wm. Fayette Smither or Wm. Woodford Smither the Bill Smothers > >who > > > founded Owensboro Ky? It would seem that with the common middle name of > > > Fayette, or Woodford that these Smithers, Smithy's had to be related. I > > > wonder if the middle name is not LaFayette, that might lead to a French > > > connection? I searched the familysearch.com page and did not find > >anything > > > for any of these names. However I did not spend a lot of time looking > >there. > > > > > > If then we look at the 1800 Kentucky census for Ohio County, Kentucky we > > > find: > > > Jacob Smothers > > > James Smothers > > > John Smothers > > > James Smothers > > > John Smothers > > > William Smothers > > > > > > It is possible that the Smothers were brothers in the Ohio county, > >Census, > > > or sons of William (Bill) Smothers, we know that William Smothers is the > >one > > > that went to Texas, did a Jacob, James or John Smothers also end up in > > > Texas? Does Jacob, James or John show up in the 1810 census for Ohio > >County, > > > Kentucky? In viewing the 1810 census I did not find any of the Smothers > > > there, it appears that they all had left Ohio County, Kentucky before > >the > > > 1810 census. The first Smothers I see in the Texas census is William > > > Smothers 1823, Riverbrassos, Texas, and no other until 1840, John and > > > William both in 1840, and William again in 1844 with lots more later. > > > > > > I looked at the Indiana census and the earliest Smothers I find is Hugh > > > Smothers Sr., John Smothers, and Reuben Smothers in the 1830 census, no > > > Jacob, James or William. It is possible that Jacob James, and William > >are > > > there as Smithers. > > > > > > Just trying to find those exclusive connections. > > > Noah Smothers 12/16/2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > > > > > >============================== > >Get Free Access to over 900 million names from Dec 7 until Dec > >21!http://www.ancestry.com/home/celebrate/freeaccess.htm?sourcecode=736 > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > >