ANY help is welcome...my cuz Deb and I have recently found out, thanks to a DAR app we have in possession of a past cousin...the dob and all military info for our missing Smithers is THAT of a BLACK Smithers who m. a Nancy Brown!!! yes, indeed...Noah and I discussed this long ago...and its indeed true...the dob for our missing Bill's father is this black Smithers dob and he lived to be 91 yrs old and in Dearborne, Ind...our Smithers [Bill's father] supposedly died by Indians in Va about 1770-1774[around 30 yrs old or so as Bill was suppose to be on 12yrs old when his father was killed and his mother, supposedly, died 9 days later from the shock of it????]...oh dear me...talk about real mess...we may NEVER be able to straigten this mess out to even get accepted by DAR ourselves. I do not understand how DAR did not find out this info anyway. Now we are not even sure when our Bill was born, much less his father's name..in a book written about him...his dad is called Henry and wife Mary...well, no one will lay claim to a Mary Hite Dubois marrying a Smithers....one stumbling block after another.....and on this DAR app we have, Bill's dad is ironically listed as a William Smithers sr...so thats probably where Bill being known as bill jr got tagged...oh dear me....and then another piece of work I just got from a library in TX, where our Bill died in 1837, his father is called GEORGE!!! bless my soul!..now try to unravel this mess of tangled webs someone has spun for us.....<smile>...trying!! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.