Time period is about 1770, Russ. Thanks so much for telling me what a stemmery is. I've been looking at maps for 2 days trying to figure this all out. Virginia, obviously was quite large at one time, 200 miles wide or something to that effect...and I think even if this killing of my grandfather ocurred where one could see the Ohio River, it had to be in KY..not Va...the Ohio RVR does not touch even WV I dont think and that would have been part of VA in those days too., right? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.