Hi List...I now have John W. Greb's new email for you. [email protected] Here is his address too John W. Greb 2005 N. Gatewood Ave Okla City, Ok 73106 This is in ref. to his Genforum message saying: Elish'a father is>> John Smothers sr b. 1748 John's father-James b. 1728 [w/Mary] Wow, I sure hope this is all true for yall!! I bet you're going to email him asap. What I have learned is...we sure need each others ph# and address, his computer went down and he just got it fixed today! I found his add. by doing the white pg search on MSN...could not resist trying to find him, was excited for yall to maybe have found Elisha's father. I sure hope so. Maybe we should all have a check-in and list our ph# and add. I'm a genial genealogist, I seek the secrets of the past, Whether squeaky clean or scarlet-lettered, I want my past unmasked. Nena R. Smothers jr. 222 Bear Paw Rd. Newport, WA 99156 USA 509-447-4666 Researching Heydt>Chrisman>Smeathers>Smithers>Smothers>Winters>Fitzpatrick>Moore??>Kelly>Kelley>Foster _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com