Karen...well, its not necessary to post bec I got an issue in the mail today.....?? and saw the article by Jack Pope on pg 3...which runs with many errors to say the least, not just the sp......pappy Smeathers was NOT in Tx in 1803 and Betsy NEVEr went to Tx either bec she died in Indiana.....gees...what a mess. I know Steve Grimes, think I will be chatting with him. If they are going to write abt our ancestors and publish a book, which I have also, it sure would be nice if they'd get their facts correct....[grin]. In the book our line is on pg 157 where it starts with my grandfather Ed [should be E.D.] Smothers, he doesn't even list MY father, just my Dad's sister Osilee & her name is sp wrong. Then on pg 154 "4. Charles Smothers"....well, hes NOT a Smothers, that whole line is Ashby or whoever raped my 3x grandmother Mary Harris Ashby! DNA proved this last Nov. but it was already widely known by that line before. I've said it before our line is a mess, we've been lucky to even sort out some of the errors. And the reason I mentioned to you bef abt Smeathers NOT being in Rev War was bec the military records all folks used to get into DAR were that of a Black Wm Smothers who lived in VA all his life, so DAR closed the line to him for anyone trying to get in. Nena Read more abt the real Wm Smeathers! My gggg grandfather William Smeathers http://www.tamu.edu/ccbn/dewitt/smothers.htm Brazoria Co Hist Museum-Wm Smeathers Will/Obit http://www.bchm.org/Austin/panel14.html Migrations of Wm Smeathers http://www.migrations.org/individual.php3?record=21943 "Life ain't in holding a good hand, but playing a good hand well." Fr Law of the Heart by Dorothy Gentry as told abt Wm Smeathers **I am genial genealogist, I seek to the secrets of the past whether squeaky clean or scarlet lettered, I want my Past Unmasked. A friend told me - "My Mother paid a Genealogist $500.00 to research her family tree... then pd him $1500 to 'shut mouth'...** _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail