Well....Betsy SMEATHERS father was Wm SMEATHERS...they always sp it wrong! But this is our Betsy and John Berry. They had 3 sons, John Bate Berry b Ky, Andrew Jackson Berry b In and Joseph Berry b In. They did end up going to Tx around 1828, Betsy died in Ind. we suppose, as John Berry md 2x to a Gracie Treat in Monroe Co Ind 1819 & had 3 dau's. She then d in Tx around 1830 and he md 3x to Hannah Devore and had 13-15 more kids, in all he had over 20 kids. Only AJ had children. John Bate m 2x, 2nd to 1/2 Cherokee lady who had been md bef to Wm Gentry who died in the war and they had a young son abt 5y when John md Nancy Frazier Gentry. When this son grew up and md he named his son John Bate Gentry. And again this name was carried down by him to his son. I've often thought this 'Bate' middle name has to mean something bec Wm Smeathers named my 3x grandfather John Bate Smeathers sr. Just have never figured it out, unless it might have been Wm Smeathers mother's maiden name. I would be interested in the Berry Newsletter post to see what they are saying abt the family. I am not a member or sub to it. Have seen it a few times and the pic on it is suppose to resemble John Berry, if so, he was quite good looking man. A desc of Andrew Jackson Berry wrote the Berry Book which inc all 3 wives and data on Wm Smeathers, over 900 pgs. Judge Jack Pope, believe he's in his 80s now but living in Austin or Georgetown Tx. Its also got tons of other Berry info in it and inc all our Smothers lines in it too fr this family. thanks for the post, Nena ps-what is yr Berry connection? From: Katheo2@aol.com Hi, all..... Are there many of you that are Berry descendents? John Berry married Betsy Smothers, daughter of Wm. or Bill Smothers, of TX history. I was just curious. I have been receiving newsletters from the John Berry Family organization. It contained a little information about Betsy and Wm......probably nothing new for those of you who are researching this line. Let me know if you'd like me to post anything about the Berry newsletter.>Karen Theofanides _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus