Does anyone have this info? I do not have the kids she lists as being children of Henry Smathers [son of Wm Smither] and I have NO John Smathers as a son of Henry and Maria Schneider. Now I do remember back awhile I had info [dont remember the source] that mentioned John Smathers, bro to Henry, who md Mary Agner....was REALLY a grandson of Wm Smither and not a son???? & that his grandfather Wm Smither raised him & left him in his will so many came to believe he was his son. Never could really prove it, so wondering if this IS the John that Frances refers too. I've tried to get ahold of Eddie, Ron and Lynch without success as they obviously are desc of the Daniel Smathers...who is supposedly son of a John Smathers, son of Henry. >From: "frances" <flcross@pine-net.com> Henry and Marie (Snider) Smathers were also the parents of twins: Isacc and John (b 1810), William, Catherine (b 1811), and Daniel (b 1814.) I don't believe Daniel ever married.>Frances THIS IS THE INFO I HAVE.......I AM CERTAINLY NOT SAYING HENRY AND MARIE DID NOT HAVE THESE KIDS....I JUST DONT HAVE THEM......THANKS FOR ANY ASSISTANCE, NENA Children of Wm Smither II/Anna Catharina: 1-Susannah Smither b 1763-1766 Pa m John Rough 1763 2-Catharine Barbara Smither b May 2 1764 Pa d ? m ? Miller 3-Elisabetha Betsy Smither b 1770 Pa d ? m 1)? Craizlo 2) Wm Grunklen 4-Johann Jacob Smither b 1772-1815/16 PA m Katherine Dew 5-Conrad Smithers b 1774 Pa **6-Henry SMATHERS alias Smithers b 1775 Rowan Co NC d June 14 1856 Summit of Balsam astride the Haywood & Jackson Co line. **** 7-Mary 'Mollie' Smithers b 1777 NC 8-Margaret 'Peggy' Smithers b 1779 NC 9-Eve Smithers b 1780 Rowan Co NC 10-John Smathers b Dec 1781 Rowan Co NC md Mary Agner 11-Christena 'Tena' Smithers b 1790 Rowan Co NC Wm II 2nd md Mrs Margaret Lenz Mar 7 1809 Rowan Co NC 12-Tony Lenz Smithers 6th child of Wm II/Anna Catharina HENRY SMATHERS-Sage of Balsam NOTE:Henry SMETHERS, a descendant of Wilhelm, came to Salem Township before 1796. He was b Oct 30 1775 Rowan Co NC + Mary HARMON HERMAN Schnieder abt 1793 Rowan Co NC died Nov 25, 1846 NOTE: Henry was known as the Senior Elder of the Haywood Co Branch of the SMATHERS family or the SAGE of BALSAM. He moved to Lincoln Co 1809 and became associated with the Fullbrights, dealers in Haywood Co lands. Here the British surname Smither was dropped and the surname SMATHERS was adopted as an alias. Early Jackson Co kin include the names of Fullbright, Snyder & Liner. On a trip to Haywood Aug 1814 he learned of a massive Missouri exodus, on part of local residents, which was beginning to start in anticipation that the then existing 1812 War, would end soon. Advanced parties were being sent to the bank of the Ohio River to locate and occupy camp sites near the river crossings [then barred by British Forts] which would open at war's end. Henry rushed back to Lincoln Co and started movement to prevail upon persons, stranded in Lincoln Co awaiting travel clearance to Missouri, to forget Missouri and go to Haywood where good land was becoming vacant and available for purchase at bottom prices. In particular, he invited a large Rowan Co group, inc. his YOUNGER brother John Smither and wife Mary Agner to join him at Fullbright Cove. They accepted and within a year a thriving community named Dutch Cove and consisting of many families had come into existence. Henry remained in Dutch Cove til 1836 when he bought the SHOOK House at the Bend of Pigeon [now Clyde] and moved his family there INC Mary Agner, now WIDoW of his younger brother, John Smither who died in 1825. Two years later he sold the Shook House to his nephew LEVI [Mary's son] and retired to Balsam and a life of old age leisure. Yet as long as his health permitted he attended Court Sessions at Waynesville. He was known affectionately as the "SAGE of BALSAM."[info courtesty of a newspaper clipping, The Mountaineer Journal, Sylva, Waynesville NC from the Smither Archive,Md] CANTON -- Descendants of a pioneer family that first settled in the Dutch Cove NC area have been leaders in the community, then and now. The families of Mayor Pat Smathers and Pisgah High School Principal Dyatt Smathers changed the spelling of their surname almost 200yrs ago. The surname of the first known Smathers ancestor to relocate to NC from France was De Smet. But historic accounts recorded by members of the Smathers clan vary as to how many times the name changed. Some of those names included: Schmetter, Smithers, Smothers, Smotherman, Smethers, Smetters, Smetter, Smitters, Smatters, Smadders, Smadders and Smatherson. The late Western NC journalist John Parris wrote in 1981 the Smathers name "has been worn by statesmen and jurists, soldiers and sailors, men of God and men of medicine, by nurses and teachers, engineers and architects." Acc/t an account recorded by Sadie Smathers Patton, two bro's John and Henry Smathers, were among the earliest known settlers to migrate from the Pa Dutch region to the Yadkin Valley Rowan co NC and then to Haywood Co to begin homesteading. They moved to an area near Canton known as Fulbright's Cove around 1815. Within a few yrs the cove's name was changed to Deutsch Cove(German Cove) because of the number of Germans who had emigrated there. It was later changed to Dutch Cove. Years of weathering had left their grave marker at Locust Fields Cemetery in Canton barely legible, so family members raised funds to have a new grave stone erected. The original stones were donated to the Canton Area Historical Museum. The Shook House built by Jacob Shook 1795 in Clyde, became the Shook-Smathers House in 1850 when William Welch, who came into possession of it after the death of Jacob Shook when a deed transferred it to Levi Smathers. Shook-Smathers House is now owned by Ruth Morgan Jones of Raleigh, acc/t Janice Smathers of Clyde. "She's had several offers for the house. It's getting in a bad state of repair and we can't understand why she won't sell it," Janice Smathers said. >From Smither Archives, forwarded to me by Betty Ralph-"The 4 Smathers Sisters" In Memory-Namely, Molly HARTMAN, Eva BARRINGER, Susanah ROUGH, Elizabeth CRAIGLOW who died during the 1807 Rowan County, NC death plague leaving a total of 22 motherless children. 1)marr dau's of Wm Smither II [alias SMATHERS] of Rowan; 2)sisters of the two SMITHER [alias SMATHERS] brothers who settled subsequently (1815) Haywood Co NC 3) grand-dau's of Wm SMITHER I, who died (1760) Berks Co Pa leaving a WILL named 7 sons & 3 dau's Children of HENRY SMATHERS and MARY SCHNEIDER. [4 kids] 1-Henry Smathers jr born 1794 + Catherine Fullbright Dec 26 1816 cHILDREN of Henry jr/Catherine: - Barbara SMATHERS Compact Disc #40 Pin #148821 B abt 1840 NC + William PRESSLEY 9 May 1860 Haywood Co NC Disc #40 Pin #1488 - Roland C SMATHERS Compact Disc #40 Pin #148823 B 1844 Place: Haywood Co, NC D1907 - Alford Clifford SMATHERS Compact Disc #40 Pin #148808 B 25 Dec 1820 Haywood Co, NC D 14 Jan 1916 Haywood Co, NC Burial Red Bank Cemetery, Haywood Co., NC Disc #40 Pin #148813 + Hannah HYATT 19 Apr 1846 Haywood Co NC Disc #40 Pin #148809 Child of Alford/Hyatt 1-Marcus L SMATHERS Compact Disc #40 Pin #148811 B 26 Jul 1852 NC D 14 Jan 1923 Haywood Co, NC Burial Crawford Cemetary, Jackson Co., NC + Ellen L DRINNON 6 Oct 1878 Haywood Co NC Disc #40 Pin #148874 Children of Marcus/Drinnon: 1-Alva E SMATHERS Compact Disc #40 Pin #148875 B 18 Jul 1879 D 18 Jul 1961 Haywood Co, NC Burial Dellwood Cemetery, Haywood Co., NC Marriage John Estes MEHAFFEY 1 Mar 1896 Haywood Co NC Disc #40 Pin #148883 2-Edward Lealan SMATHERS Compact Disc #40 Pin #148880 B 7 Apr 1893 Haywood Co, NC Marriage Cora CRAWFORD 26 Aug 1910 Haywood Co NC Disc #40 Pin #149049 3-Bertha Candelia SMATHERS Compact Disc #40 Pin #148882 B Aug 1899 Jackson Co., NC D 5 Oct 1995 Jackson Co., NC Pnts:Father: Marcus L SMATHERS Disc #40 Pin #148811 Mother: Ellen L DRINNON Disc #40 Pin #148874 Marriage John Robert CRAWFORD 14 Mar 1915 Disc #40 Pin #149469 MORE CHILDREN OF HENRY SMATHERS/MARIA SCHNEIDER: 2-George Smathers b 1796 Rowan Co NC d abt 1844 Pulaski Co MO + Sarah 'Sally Fulbright b 1800 Buncombe NC. Children of George and Sally Fulbright -Mary C. 'Polly' Smathers/Smithers b Aug 21 1822 MO d Aug 21 1885 Dixon MO md Wm Henry Scott Dec 15 1842 Camden Co MO b Nov 15 1817 KY -Harriett Smathers/Smithers b Mar 10 1828 MO d Sep 22 1878 Harveyville KS md Robert Jas Marrs 1852 Laclede Co MO b 1827 Il/Tn -David N Smathers/Smithers 1830/31 MO d aft 1849 Laclede Co MO ? -Martin D Smathers/Smithers 1835/36 MO d 1876/77 MO ? md Malinda Jane Smith abt 1860-4 girls -Elizabeth C Smathers/Smithers 1839/40 MO d aft 1849 Laclede Co Mo ? MORE CHILDREN OF HENRY AND MARIA SCHNEIDER: 3-Amelia Permelia Smathers b 1800 + David Fulbright Judge Feb 6 1816 b Nov 7 1797 Buncombe Co NC 4-Elizabeth Smathers b 1804 d Oct 23 1894 Haywood Co NC + Joseph Chambers Jul 13 1824 Haywood Co NC b 1798 NC NOTE:Eliz buried Pleasant Hill Haywood Co NC ~~~~~~~~~ NOTE: Fr Frances- Daniel Smathers (marr Yell Co 1870) was the son of John Smathers b 1810 N C who was the son of Henry Smathers and Marie Snider. Henry and Marie also had a son Daniel Smathers (for whom the younger Daniel was named, most likely). Frances Yell County Marriage records--Smathers, Daniel Spouse: Grass, Julia A.: Marriage date: Mar. 20, 1870---can anyone help me with any information on this marriage--looking for a lost Julia Grass--any information on either one of these folks appreciated. The Daniel SMATHERS who was married in Yell Co, AR to Julia Ann (Byrne) Gross (not Grass) is believed to be the son of John Smathers and Mary. John is twin to Isaac SMATHERS who settled in Red River Co, TX. Frances flcross@pine-net.com From: Patricia Royer <proyer@penn.com> > To: paclario-l@rootsweb.com > Subject: Clarion - Smathers December 01, 1997 6:42 PM > I have been trying to find information on the father of my ggrandmother, Malinda Smathers. Her father was Isaac Smathers, who was married to Harriet ? (Reed,Cook?) I have a paper on the History of the Smathers Family in America that mentions an Isaac Smathers and the dates would be about right, but it seems to be missing some pages and doesn't tell about Isaac marrying or his children so I can't make a definite connection. This paper goes back to Jacob and Robert Smithers coming to the US in 1767. Harrigers are also mentioned in the paper. proyer@penn.com http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/7808 Eddie smathers cty74724@centurytel.net 7 Dec 2002-Hello Dick; I am a great-great grandson of Daniel Smathers. If I can be of any help please feel free to give me a holler. Ron Huddleston reathud2002@yahoo.com -was browsing through the Breary cemetary querys and happened to see your name. I was looking for something new about my grgrandmother Lena Custer Smathers. I also saw a query from a Judy Oxford that said she was looking for information about her grgrandmother Lena Custer Smathers. Her e-mail address no longer exist. I do not know who she is but we would have to be cousins. If by any wild chance you might know her or who she is please give me a holler. 7 Dec 2002-Smathers, Daniel -My name is Ron Huddleston. I am a gg grandson of Daniel Smathers. LLynch9242@cs.com Smathers / Grass- 11 Oct 2002-I do have some information on Sam Smathers and Julia, Sam was my great grandfather. Give me until next week and I will send you what I have. http://bethg.shutdown.com/yell/ysequery.html _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail