may be ya'll knew this....I found it interesting..... ca means circa) or use abt (means about). Usually "ca" is used when you are using a 20 year "window) for the date and "abt" is used when you are using a 5 year window _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail