Hayes Presidential Center maintain an Online Obituary Index that includes both Sandusky and Seneca County Ohio. Some Smothers folks I believe have passed through that area and might found it useful. They are still indexing Seneca County. That web address is http://index.rbhayes.org/ Found 6 Smothers there, one is of 1830 for a Jacob Smothers w/probate. You are viewing record 1 through 6. http://index.rbhayes.org/ Last Name First Name Middle Spouse Last Name Spouse First Name Age at Death Place of Death Year of Death Month of Death Day of Death SMOTHERS DELOSS, MRS BUCYRUS 1935 11 30 OHIO 1-Smothers, Mrs Deloss-article in Clyde Enterprise paper, Dec 5 1935 Pg 2 Col 4 SMOTHERS ERNEST P 73 ARCADIA 1979 7 16 OHIO 2-Smothers Ernest P-article in News-Messenger [Freemont] July 19 1979 Pg 8 Col 3 SMOTHERS JACOB BAY TWP 1830 OHIO 3-Smothers Jacob-2 non newspaper sources Administration Record-V1; P 319, 324 Probate Case-Source Data-83 [see below how to order non news articles] SMOTHERS MARY ELLEN SMOTHERS WALTER A 77 OCOEE FL 2002 4 8 4-Smothers Mary Ellen [Cunningham] father name Donald Cunningham 1 news article in News Messenger [Freemont] Section A pg 2 Col 1 SMOTHERS NINA ERNEST 64 FOSTORIA 1971 8 11 5-Smothers Nina father Clement V Correll 1 article News Messenger pg 8 Col 7 SMOTHERS WILDA FOSTORIA 1937 11 30 6-Smothers Wilda 1 article Clyde Enterprise pg 4 Col 3 If the person you are interested in has an "other source" listed, then you will want to contact the Library (hayeslib@rbhayes.org) to determine what kind of information is available. 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I did not think the maiden name for John Smithers' wife, Rachel (Betterton?), was known? John was Richard Smithers' son. I have done some research on John and never before saw any evidence as to Rachel's maiden name. Seems an odd coincidence that you name James the engraver's wife as Rachel Betterton also? John and James were completely unrelated as best I can tell. Bill Nena Smothers wrote: > . JAMES SMITHERS, b. Bet. 1750 - 1765, <Pennsylvania>. > Notes for JAMES SMITHERS:[Smithers.FTW] > > 1790 U. S. Census James Smithers, Philadelphia County, PA. > [this is the only image census that showed age of Head of HH] > James Smithers #34 in bet Adam Robinson [bricklayer]& Eliz Smith [gen'l > woman] > engraver 21y D=dwelling Head > 3-free white males over 16y > 0-free white males under 16y > 5-free white females > State: PA Year: 1790 County: Philadelphia Roll: M637_9 > Township: Unknown Township Page: 240 Image: 0362 > > I am not certain who James Smithers the engraver is in Philadelphia. > However, there was a James Smithers, born in England who was a gunsmith and > engraver. He married Rachel Betterton in September of 1771. He did border > cuts on the 1772 release of Pennsylvania currency, he completed the > engraving of the Pennsylvania survery of the Mason Dixon line map, and made > the dies for the Pitt Tokens that were minted in commeration of the repeal > of the Stamp Act, as well as other items of the day. Unfortunately, he was a > Tory sympathizer and convicted of high treason. He fled to New York and > supposedly went to Canada. However, I do remember that his wife Rachel > appeared before the Supreme Executive Council of Philadelphia to request a > pardon for him. Whether she was successful or not, I don't know. If she was, > this is possibly him listed in the 1790 census. Terry Snyder > Terryls111@aol.com > > Sometime 1755-1763, John Smithers, wife Rachel Betterton Smithers, and > brother Nath'l Smithers removed from Md and were living in Kent Co De which > is located right next to Kent Co., MD. Not sure what became of > mom(Catherine). Proof is the following record:Because BOTH the 1755 Md deed > AND the 1763 De deed name Nath'l Smithers and John & wife Rachel Smithers, > there is no doubt the Md and De families connect (in my opinion). > > -1778 List of Men From Pennsylvania who joined the British Army. The > following individuals are reported in the June 17, 1778 edition of > the Pa Packet as having joined the British Army and were therefore > proclaimed traitors to the US. Some, but not all, had Quaker ancestry or > were Quakers themselves. All now or late of the Co of Philadelphia > all now or late of the Northern Liberties township > g.. James Smither, engraver,*********** > > 1790 U. S. Census James Smithers, Philadelphia Co unknown township, > Image 0362, Roll, M637_9, page 240, James Smithers, engraver, > free white males over 16, 3, free white females 5. > > 1800 U. S. Census James Smithers, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania, unknown > township, page 104. > > 1810 U. S. Census for South Mulberry Township, Philadelphia County, > Pennsylvania, James Smither, engraver, free white males, 45 and up 1, free > white females, 16 to 26, 2, 45 and up, 1. > > websites: > http://www.tbaytel.net/bmartin/blacklst.htm > > http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/speccol/1399/reports/html/268m4.html > > http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinIntros/Pitt.intro.html > > http://www.goldbergcoins.net/catalogarchive/20010216/chap002.shtml > > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/loy/muster/pa1778.shtml > > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/church/stpaulphil01.txt > > You'll have to use the "find" button on some of these pages. Unfortunately > the info about Rachel going before the Supreme Council was something I > remember reading in the Colonial Records. This was when I was first > researching Smithers/Smathers and I thought it was interesting but important > to my research . I may have made a notation on a scratch of paper but not > sure exactly where that would be - sorry. Next time I go to Hayes > Presidential Center Library I will look it up again. Also speaking of Hayes > Presidential Center, they maintain an Online Obituary Index that includes > both Sandusky and Seneca County Ohio. Some Smothers folks I believe have > passed through that area and might found it useful. They are still indexing > Seneca County, but it might be something worth keeping in mind. That web > address is http://index.rbhayes.org/ Terry S. > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

From: Bill Smothers <smothers@dca.net> I did not think the maiden name for John Smithers' wife, Rachel (Betterton?), was known? THAT WAS COPIED BY MISTAKE....JOHN DOES NOT RELATE TO JAS OR RACHEL BETTERTON...SORRY John was Richard Smithers' son. I have done some research on John and never before saw any evidence as to Rachel's maiden name. Seems an odd coincidence that you name James the engraver's wife as Rachel Betterton also? I AM NOT SAYING HE IS FOR CERTAIN...I JUST PUT THE INFO ON HIM WHERE THE JAS SMITHERS, THE ENGRAVER IS LISTED. John and James were completely unrelated as best I can tell.>Bill > >Nena Smothers wrote: JAMES SMITHERS, b. Bet. 1750 - 1765, <Pennsylvania>. Notes for JAMES SMITHERS:[Smithers.FTW] 1790 U. S. Census James Smithers, Philadelphia County, PA. [this is the only image census that showed age of Head of HH] James Smithers #34 in bet Adam Robinson [bricklayer]& Eliz Smith [gen'l woman] engraver 21y D=dwelling Head BORN C1769 3-free white males over 16y 0-free white males under 16y 5-free white females State: PA Year: 1790 County: Philadelphia Roll: M637_9 Township: Unknown Township Page: 240 Image: 0362 I am not certain who James Smithers the engraver is in Philadelphia. However, there was a James Smithers, born in England who was a gunsmith and engraver. He married Rachel Betterton in September of 1771. He did border cuts on the 1772 release of Pennsylvania currency, he completed the engraving of the Pennsylvania survery of the Mason Dixon line map, and made the dies for the Pitt Tokens that were minted in commeration of the repeal of the Stamp Act, as well as other items of the day. Unfortunately, he was a Tory sympathizer and convicted of high treason. He fled to New York and supposedly went to Canada. However, I do remember that his wife Rachel appeared before the Supreme Executive Council of Philadelphia to request a pardon for him. Whether she was successful or not, I don't know. If she was, this is possibly him listed in the 1790 census. Terry Snyder Terryls111@aol.com -1778 List of Men From Pennsylvania who joined the British Army. The following individuals are reported in the June 17, 1778 edition of the Pa Packet as having joined the British Army and were therefore proclaimed traitors to the US. Some, but not all, had Quaker ancestry or were Quakers themselves. All now or late of the Co of Philadelphia all now or late of the Northern Liberties township g.. James Smither, engraver,*********** 1790 U. S. Census James Smithers, Philadelphia Co unknown township, Image 0362, Roll, M637_9, page 240, James Smithers, engraver, free white males over 16, 3, free white females 5. 1800 U. S. Census James Smithers, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania, unknown township, page 104. 1810 U. S. Census for South Mulberry Township, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania, James Smither, engraver, free white males, 45 and up 1, free white females, 16 to 26, 2, 45 and up, 1. websites: http://www.tbaytel.net/bmartin/blacklst.htm http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/speccol/1399/reports/html/268m4.html http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinIntros/Pitt.intro.html http://www.goldbergcoins.net/catalogarchive/20010216/chap002.shtml http://olivetreegenealogy.com/loy/muster/pa1778.shtml http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/church/stpaulphil01.txt You'll have to use the "find" button on some of these pages. Unfortunately the info about Rachel going before the Supreme Council was something I remember reading in the Colonial Records. This was when I was first researching Smithers/Smathers and I thought it was interesting but important to my research . I may have made a notation on a scratch of paper but not sure exactly where that would be - sorry. Next time I go to Hayes Presidential Center Library I will look it up again. Also speaking of Hayes Presidential Center, they maintain an Online Obituary Index that includes both Sandusky and Seneca County Ohio. Some Smothers folks I believe have passed through that area and might found it useful. They are still indexing Seneca County, but it might be something worth keeping in mind. That web address is http://index.rbhayes.org/ Terry S. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

. JAMES SMITHERS, b. Bet. 1750 - 1765, <Pennsylvania>. Notes for JAMES SMITHERS:[Smithers.FTW] 1790 U. S. Census James Smithers, Philadelphia County, PA. [this is the only image census that showed age of Head of HH] James Smithers #34 in bet Adam Robinson [bricklayer]& Eliz Smith [gen'l woman] engraver 21y D=dwelling Head 3-free white males over 16y 0-free white males under 16y 5-free white females State: PA Year: 1790 County: Philadelphia Roll: M637_9 Township: Unknown Township Page: 240 Image: 0362 I am not certain who James Smithers the engraver is in Philadelphia. However, there was a James Smithers, born in England who was a gunsmith and engraver. He married Rachel Betterton in September of 1771. He did border cuts on the 1772 release of Pennsylvania currency, he completed the engraving of the Pennsylvania survery of the Mason Dixon line map, and made the dies for the Pitt Tokens that were minted in commeration of the repeal of the Stamp Act, as well as other items of the day. Unfortunately, he was a Tory sympathizer and convicted of high treason. He fled to New York and supposedly went to Canada. However, I do remember that his wife Rachel appeared before the Supreme Executive Council of Philadelphia to request a pardon for him. Whether she was successful or not, I don't know. If she was, this is possibly him listed in the 1790 census. Terry Snyder Terryls111@aol.com Sometime 1755-1763, John Smithers, wife Rachel Betterton Smithers, and brother Nath'l Smithers removed from Md and were living in Kent Co De which is located right next to Kent Co., MD. Not sure what became of mom(Catherine). Proof is the following record:Because BOTH the 1755 Md deed AND the 1763 De deed name Nath'l Smithers and John & wife Rachel Smithers, there is no doubt the Md and De families connect (in my opinion). -1778 List of Men From Pennsylvania who joined the British Army. The following individuals are reported in the June 17, 1778 edition of the Pa Packet as having joined the British Army and were therefore proclaimed traitors to the US. Some, but not all, had Quaker ancestry or were Quakers themselves. All now or late of the Co of Philadelphia all now or late of the Northern Liberties township g.. James Smither, engraver,*********** 1790 U. S. Census James Smithers, Philadelphia Co unknown township, Image 0362, Roll, M637_9, page 240, James Smithers, engraver, free white males over 16, 3, free white females 5. 1800 U. S. Census James Smithers, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania, unknown township, page 104. 1810 U. S. Census for South Mulberry Township, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania, James Smither, engraver, free white males, 45 and up 1, free white females, 16 to 26, 2, 45 and up, 1. websites: http://www.tbaytel.net/bmartin/blacklst.htm http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/speccol/1399/reports/html/268m4.html http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinIntros/Pitt.intro.html http://www.goldbergcoins.net/catalogarchive/20010216/chap002.shtml http://olivetreegenealogy.com/loy/muster/pa1778.shtml http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/church/stpaulphil01.txt You'll have to use the "find" button on some of these pages. Unfortunately the info about Rachel going before the Supreme Council was something I remember reading in the Colonial Records. This was when I was first researching Smithers/Smathers and I thought it was interesting but important to my research . I may have made a notation on a scratch of paper but not sure exactly where that would be - sorry. Next time I go to Hayes Presidential Center Library I will look it up again. Also speaking of Hayes Presidential Center, they maintain an Online Obituary Index that includes both Sandusky and Seneca County Ohio. Some Smothers folks I believe have passed through that area and might found it useful. They are still indexing Seneca County, but it might be something worth keeping in mind. That web address is http://index.rbhayes.org/ Terry S. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

From: "Darrell Warner" <darrellwarner@kc.rr.com> To: KYBATH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYBATH] 333 Obituaries online at the Bath archives Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 23:39:22 -0600 I finally got the obituary section of the archives updated and now have 333 obits there to search through. You will find them at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/bath/toc.html Darrell Coordinator of UsGenWeb Bath County, Kentucky Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/bath/toc.html Coordinator of KyGenWeb Bath County, Kentucky Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~kybath/bathcounty.html Coordinator of the Bath County Query Board http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec? htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.bath _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

~~~1902~~~ The year is 1902 ... one hundred years ago ... what a difference a century makes! Here are some of the U.S. statistics for 1902:        The average life expectancy in the U.S. was 47 years.        Only 14 Percent of the homes in the U.S. had a bathtub.        Only 8 percent of the homes had a telephone.        A three-minute call from Denver to New York City cost #11.00    There were only 8,000 cars in the U.S., and only 144 miles of paved roads.        The maximum speed limit in most cities was 10 mph.        Alabama, Mississippi, Iowa, and Tennessee were each more heavily populated than California. With a mere 1.4 million residents, California was only the 21st-most populous state in the Union. The tallest structure in the world was the Eiffel Tower.        The average wage in the U.S. was 22 cents an hour.        The average U.S. worker made between $200 and $400 per year.        A competent accountant could expect to earn $2000 per year, a dentist $2,500 per year, a veterinarian between $1,500 and $4,000 per year, and a mechanical engineer about $5,000 per year.        More than 95% of all births in the U.S. took place at home.      Ninety percent of all U.S. physicians had no college education. Instead, they attended medical schools, many of which were condemned in the press and by the government as "substandard."        Sugar cost four cents a pound. Eggs were fourteen cents a dozen. Coffee cost fifteen cents a pound.        Most women only washed their hair once a month, and used borax or egg yolks for shampoo.        Canada passed a law prohibiting poor people from entering the country for any reason.        The five leading causes of death in the U.S. were:    1. Pneumonia and influenza    2. Tuberculosis    3. Diarrhea 4. Heart disease    5. Stroke       The American flag had 45 stars. Arizona, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Hawaii, and Alaska hadn't been admitted to the Union yet.       The population of Las Vegas, Nevada, was 30.       Crossword puzzles, canned beer, and iced tea hadn't been invented.       There was no Mother's Day or Father's Day.       One in ten U.S. adults couldn't read or write. Only 6 percent of all Americans had graduated high school.        Marijuana, heroin, and morphine were all available over the counter at corner drugstores. According to one pharmacist, "Heroin clears the complexion, gives buoyancy to the mind, regulates the stomach and the bowels, and is, in fact, a perfect guardian of health."        18 percent of households in the U.S. had at least one full-time servant or domestic.        There were only about 230 reported murders in the entire U.S.        Just think what its already like in the last 100 years. What will it be like in our children's generation & our grandchildren's in 100 years?    ~~~......It boggles the mind.....~~~ _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Nena, The Smithers shown in the 1790 census of Luzerne County, Pennsylvania are George Jacob Smithers and George Nicholas Smithers, sons of William Smithers who died in 1760 in Albany Twp. of Berks County, Pennsylvania. Both Jacob and George served in the Northampton militia (Jacob a Private, and George a Captain) and used depreciation pay to purchase land in 1786 in what was then Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, but later that same year was designated as part of the newly created Luzerne County. Jacob Jr is the eldest son of George Jacob Smithers, whose sponsors at baptism in 1765 were Jacob Bachman Sr. and Maria Catherine. (Jacob Bachman Sr. was Maria Catherine Jeaky Smither's second husband.) Jacob stayed in Luzerne County and died there in 1826, but George and his family went on to move to Fairfield County, Ohio where he died around 1825. I am not certain who James Smithers the engraver is in Philadelphia. However, there was a James Smithers, born in England who was a gunsmith and engraver. He married Rachel Betterton in September of 1771. He did border cuts on the 1772 release of Pennsylvania currency, he completed the engraving of the Pennsylvania survery of the Mason Dixon line map, and made the dies for the Pitt Tokens that were minted in commeration of the repeal of the Stamp Act, as well as other items of the day. Unfortunately, he was a Tory sympathizer and convicted of high treason. He fled to New York and supposedly went to Canada. However, I do remember that his wife Rachel appeared before the Supreme Executive Council of Philadelphia to request a pardon for him. Whether she was successful or not, I don't know. If she was, this is possibly him listed in the 1790 census. Terry Snyder

From: Douglas Smathers <smathedr@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 22:46:38 -0800 (PST) Nena, this my direct line from William Smither. i have put some stuff in BOLD, for things i have seen nobody has. I have been trying to find stones from Jacob Smithers b 1800 m Maria Mohney but have been running out of day light some days trying to find the small cemetery on my days off. also trying to find his son Franklin. on his dc it says he is buried in Oakfield Cemetery in Perry Co OH. this is not too far from our house and he isnt in there. i have spent days there rubbing old stones with shaving cream and cleaning them to read.(by the way if you didnt know that works, but you may have to let the cream sit on the stone for a day) but Franklin and Sarah are not in there--however their son Thomas Lee Smathers b Sept 02, 1881 and Ada Burgess is there. (if you have anyone that is a BURGESS let me know--Ada C Burgess is a ghost for me, on five of her kids bc Ada list five different birth places.) about this DNA thingy, i think i can do it. DESCENDANTS OF: William Smither b 1710 d 1760 + Maria Catharine Jeaky 1 George Jacob Smithers +1 Anna Margaretha 2 Jacob Smither jr +2 Rosanna Klientub 2 Christian Smithers 1770-1834 + Elisabeth Daubenspeck 3 Jacob Smithers + Maria 'Polly Mohney 4 Franklin Smathers + Sarah Ellen McCarty --father Henry McCarty, mother Suzanna Williams (I don’t think anyone has this info) 5 Thomas Lee Smathers b Sept 2, 1881 + Ada C Burgess--complete ghost--b1890, d 1971 any help on her? 6 Clarence Smathers sr + Dorothy Strohmeyer 7 Clarence Smathers jr + Karen New 8 DOUGLAS SMATHERS Douglas Smathers 126 South Green Dr Rm 325 Athens, OH 45701 _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

EXPLANATION OF COLUMNS- Name of family head; number of free white males of sixteen years and older, number of free white males under sixteen years, number of free white females, number of all other free persons, number of slaves; and sometimes town or district of residence. The 1790 census instructed the marshals to identify, by age brackets, free white males sixteen years of age or older and those under sixteen. It was designed to determine the country’s industrial and military capabilities. Additionally, the first census was to count the number of free white females; all other free persons regardless of race or gender; and slaves. A twenty-dollar fine, to be split between the marshals’ assistants and the government, would be levied against anyone who refused to answer the enumerator’s questions can we ID all these folks? Notice we have prob 2 Gabriel's, 1 in NC, and 1 in SC..... NORTH CAROLINA Gabl Smither #165 in bet Isaac ? Norman & Nath'l Barber 1 free white male 16y and older [Gabl] 6 free white male under 16y 5 free white females State: NC Year: 1790 County: Wilkes Roll: M637_7 Township: Unknown Township Page: 124 Image: 0097 Garnet Smithers #133 in bet Wm Sirce ? & Celia Taylor 1 - free white male 16y and older 0 - free white males under 16y 3 - free white females State: NC Year: 1790 County: Rutherford Roll: M637_7 Township: Unknown Township Page: 117 Image: 0081 SOUTH CAROLINA Gabrial Smithers [in bet a Pat Spence & Wm Simpson 3 free white males over 16y 3 free white males under 16y 3 free white females 0 all other free whites 7 slaves State: SC Year: 1790 County: Abbeville Roll: M637_11 Township: Unknown Township Page: 60 Image: 0281 Robert Smithers #293 1 - 1 - 2 - 0 - 4slaves in bet H Ragbush & Thomas Hunt State: SC Year: 1790 County: Charleston Roll: M637_11 Township: St. Phillips And St. Michaels Page: 39 Image: 0179 PENNSYLVANIA - all these 3 right in a row above is Abraham Smith & below them is Jacob Snell Jacob Smithers #153 2 - 0 - 2 State: PA Year: 1790 County: Luzerne Roll: M637_8 Township: Unknown Township Page: 150 Image: 0340 Jacob, Junr Smithers #153 1 - 2 - 1 State: PA Year: 1790 County: Luzerne Roll: M637_8 Township: Unknown Township Page: 150 Image: 0340 George Smithers #153 3 - 4 - 5 State: PA Year: 1790 County: Luzerne Roll: M637_8 Township: Unknown Township Page: 150 Image: 0340 [this is the only image census that showed age of Head of HH] James Smithers #34 in bet Adam Robinson [bricklayer]& Eliz Smith [gen'l woman] engraver 21y D=dwelling Head 3-free white males over 16y 0-free white males under 16y 5-free white females State: PA Year: 1790 County: Philadelphia Roll: M637_9 Township: Unknown Township Page: 240 Image: 0362 _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

From: Darburns@aol.com Reply-To: INDIANA-L@rootsweb.com To: INDIANA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [INDIANA] House Bill 1540 - Birth and Death Records Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 18:48:19 EST There is proposed legislation to prohibit public access to vital records for the state of Indiana! House Bill (HB) 1540 can be read online at <A HREF="http://www.in.gov/legislative/bills/2003/IN/IN1540.1.html"> http://www.in.gov/legislative/bills/2003/IN/IN1540.1.html</A> Some of the language in HB 1540 is: "h. When one hundred (100) years has elapsed after the date of birth, the records of those events in the custody of the state or local registrar shall become available to the public....." There is much more to read concerning HB 1540. Have I gotten your attention yet? I sure hope so and I hope that each and every one of us contacts our legislators about this. We've got to contact our legistatures immediately telling them of our opposition regarding HB 1540 as genealogists and family historians. Please read on: In this morning's Indianapolis Star in Section B City & State on page 3,House Bill 1540 is listed for Hearing on Wednesday morning at 10:30 from the Public Health Committee. Our emails and phone calls to legislators will need to start immediately with follow up letters in the mail on Monday!  Express your opposition to proposed HB 1540 adopting new privacy standards for Indiana's public vital records! Even if you live outside the state of Indiana you may be affected by this HB. This applies to all of us - If we, at some point, wish to become a member of an organization that requires us to prove our lineage and HB 1540 becomes a law we will not have access to birth or death records to do this. Our desire to become a members of any organization that requires us to prove our lineage may be in jeopardy! Please contact the persons that have authored this proposed legislature. The site where you can find email address for IN Representatives is <A HREF="http://www.in.gov/cgi-in/legislative/contact/contact.pl">http://www.in.gov/cgi-bin/legislative/contact/contact.pl</A> We are all concerned about identity theft. The state of Indiana requires information from us that should safeguard the issues of theft identity. Please contact your representatives by email, phone and follow-up with a letter. Thank you for reading this email.>Darlene Anderson ==== INDIANA Mailing List ==== _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Baltimore, Maryland Directories, 1890 34 Matches Description:The largest city in Maryland, Baltimore is situated on Chesapeake Bay in the central section of the state. This database is a transcription of a city directory originally published in 1890. In addition to providing the resident's name, it provides information regarding their address and occupation. This collection includes the names of about 165,600 people, mostly heads of households. For those seeking ancestors from central Maryland, this can be an informative database. Extended Description:City directories are primarily useful for locating people in a particular place and time. They can tell you generally where an ancestor lived and give an exact location for census years. They are also useful for linkage with sources other than censuses. There are usually several parts to a city directory. The section of most interest to the genealogist, of course, is the alphabetical listing fo names, for it is there that you may find your ancestor. Whenever you use a directory, however, it is important to refer to the page showing abbreviations used in the alphabetical section of the directory, usually following the name in each entry. Some abbreviations are quite common, such as h for home or r, indicating residence. There may even be a subtle distinction between r for residents who are related to the homeowner and b for boarders who are not related. Some city directories list adult children who lived with their parents but were working or going to school. Look for persons of the same surname residing at the same address. If analyzed and interpreted properly, these annual directories can tell you (by implication) which children belong to which household, when they married and started families of their own, and when they established themselves in business. In cases where specific occupation is given, you can search records pertinent to that occupation. Once an ancestor has been found in a city directory, there are several ways the information can be used to gain access to, or link with, such sources as censuses, death and probate records, church records, naturalization records, and land records. Taken from Chapter 11: Research in Directories, The Source: A Guidebook of American Genealogy by Gordon Lewis Remington; edited by Loretto Dennis Szucs and Sandra Hargreaves Luebking (Salt Lake City, UT: Ancestry Incorporated, 1997). Source Information:Baltimore City Directory, 1890. Baltimore, MD: R. L. Polk and Co., 1890. Name Business Name Occupation Location 1 Location 2 City State Year [I dont know what the * means] *Adrick Smothers stevedore 517 w Cross Baltimore MD 1890 *Alfred T Smothers waiter 403 Pearl Baltimore MD 1890 *Alfred W Smothers porter 245 Camel alley Baltimore MD 1890 *Annie Smothers laundress 550 Orchard Baltimore MD 1890 Arthur McC Smothers driver 517 w Cross Baltimore MD 1890 *Chas C Smothers hostler 109 n High Baltimore MD 1890 *Chas H Smothers laborer 403 e Monument Baltimore MD 1890 *Chas H Smothers mariner 51 e Hughes Baltimore MD 1890 *Chas H Smothers waiter 425 Hargrove alley Baltimore MD 1890 *Edwd Smothers laborer 1029 s Eutaw Baltimore MD 1890 *Edwd Smothers shoemkr 1128 Russell Baltimore MD 1890 *Elijah Smothers laborer 931 Peach alley Baltimore MD 1890 *Eliza Smothers 559 Orchard Baltimore MD 1890 *Elizab Smothers laundress 237 Chesnut Baltimore MD 1890 *Mrs Elizab Smothers 909 s Howard Baltimore MD 1890 *Ellen Smothers laundress 512 Myrtle avenue Baltimore MD 1890 *Francis J Smothers laborer Mt Winans Baltimore MD 1890 *Frank Smothers porter 531 Oxford Baltimore MD 1890 *Frank L Smothers driver 770 Waesche Baltimore MD 1890 *Geo H Smothers laborer 642 Greenwillow Baltimore MD *Geo W Smothers laborer 678 Raborg Baltimore MD 1890 *Geo W Smothers laborer Mt Winans Baltimore MD 1890 *Henry Smothers oysters 722 n Stockton Baltimore MD 1890 *Jeremiah Smothers laborer 919 Low Baltimore MD 1890 *John Smothers laborer 415 Short Baltimore MD 1890 Mary E Smothers dressmkr 517 w Cross Baltimore MD 1890 *Peter Smothers porter 919 Low Baltimore MD 1890 *Richd W Smothers porter 519 X alley Baltimore MD 1890 *Sarah Smothers 550 Orchard Baltimore MD 1890 *Victoria Smothers laundress 517 w Cross Baltimore MD 1890 *Walter Smothers laborer 603 s Howard Baltimore MD 1890 *Wm Smothers laborer 917 Sarah Ann Baltimore MD 1890 *Wm A Smothers coal 1724 Cairo 1133 w Saratoga Baltimore MD *Wm H Smothers laborer 1122 n Vincent Baltimore MD Harrisburg, Pennsylvania Directories, 1887-90 21 Matches Name Business Name Occupation Location 1 Location 2 City State Year Charles S. Smothers laborer 522 Race Harrisburg PA Jennie Smothers domestic 255 North Harrisburg PA Jennie Smothers domestic 312 S 2d Harrisburg PA Jennie Smothers domestic 308 Hummel Harrisburg PA Jennie Smothers domestic 719 Elder Harrisburg PA John F. Smothers laborer Reading c Ridge Steelton PA John F. Smothers laborer 309 Ridge Steelton PA Simon Smothers laborer 1622 Walnut Harrisburg PA Simon Smothers laborer 522 Race Harrisburg PA Sylvester Smothers contractor 313 Ridge Steelton PA William Smothers laborer 110 Adams Steelton PA William Smothers laborer 111 Adams Steelton PA William Smothers laborer 209 Adams Steelton PA William Smothers laborer 164 Ridge Steelton PA William Smothers laborer 258 Ridge Steelton PA _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

These are various early Smothers, Smithers etc., that I have found, from Pennsylvania, I do not know the relation of if any to each other, just trying to piece together some information for research and discussion. Noah Descendants of Pennsylvania Smothers Generation No. 1 1. PENNSYLVANIA1 SMOTHERS Notes for PENNSYLVANIA SMOTHERS: [Smithers.FTW] 1790 U. S. Census Ralph Smothers, Montgomery CO., PA. Cheltenham Township [Smithers.FTW] Spelling variations include: Smithers, Smithies, Smythies, Smither, Smithurs, Smothers, Smother, Smethurst, Smethers, Smetters, Smetter, Smittersm, Smatters, Smadders, Smatherson, Smythers, Smyther, Smeathers, Smeather, Schmithers, Strothers, Strother, Smathers, Smuthers, Schmether, Schmethers, and others. 1790 U. S. Census James Smithers, Philadelphia County, PA. 1790 U. S. Census Jno Senr Strothers Washington County, Pennsylvania. 1790 U. S. Census Jno Jur Strothers, Washington County, Pennsylvania. Children of PENNSYLVANIA SMOTHERS are: i. GEORGE2 SMITHER, b. Bet. 1735 - 1755, Pennsylvania. Notes for GEORGE SMITHER: [Smithers.FTW] 1800 U. S. Census George Smither, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, Salem township, page 355. Free white males, under 10, 2, 16, to 26, 1, 26 to 45, 1, 45 and up 1, free white females under 10, 2, 10 to 16, 1, 16 to 26, 3, 45 and up 1. ( There is another George Smither in Huntington Township, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania). ii. JACOB SMETHERS, b. Bet. 1745 - 1765, Salem Township, Luzeren County, Pennslyvania. Notes for JACOB SMETHERS: There are two Jacob's in the 1810 census, not sure how they are related...Noah December 21, 2002. 1810 U. S. Census for Neoscopeck township, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, Jacob Smithers, free white males, under 10, 1, 10 to 16, 2, 45 and up, 1, free white females, under 10, 2, 16 to 26, 1, 45 and up, 1. (1810 U. S. Census for, Salem Township, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, Jacob Smethers, page 95, free white males, under 10, 1, 10 to 16, 2, 45 and up 1, free white females, under 10, 2, 10 to 16, 1, 45 and up 1.). iii. JOSHUA SMOTHERS, b. Bet. 1750 - 1760, <South Mulberry Township, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania; m. DIANA SMOTHERS; b. Bet. 1750 - 1760, <Philadelphia, North Mulberry Ward, Philadelphia County, PA.>. Notes for JOSHUA SMOTHERS: 1810 U. S. Census for South Mulberry Township, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania, page 106, Joshua Smothers. head of 5 other free persons. Occupation Caster? Notes for DIANA SMOTHERS: 1830 U. S. Census for Philadelphia, North Mulberry Ward, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania, page 289, Diana Smothers, free white females, 70 to 80, 1. (Not sure if Diana is the wife of Joshua, it is a possibility..need furthur research..Jan. 4, 2003). 1840 U. S. Census for Philadelphia, North Mulberry Ward Township, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania, page 5, Diana Smothers, free colored persons female 10 to 24, 1, 36 to 55, 1, 55 to 100,1. iv. JAMES SMITHERS, b. Bet. 1750 - 1765, <Pennsylvania>. Notes for JAMES SMITHERS: [Smithers.FTW] 1790 U. S. Census James Smithers, Philadelphia County, unknown township, Image 0362, Roll, M637_9, page 240, James Smithers, engraver, free white males over 16, 3, free white females 5. 1800 U. S. Census James Smithers, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania, unknown township, page 104. 1810 U. S. Census for South Mulberry Township, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania, James Smither, engraver, free white males, 45 and up 1, free white females, 16 to 26, 2, 45 and up, 1. v. GEORGE SMITHER, b. Bef. 1755, Huntington, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania. Notes for GEORGE SMITHER: 1800 U. S. Census, George Smither, Huntington Township, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, page 354, free white males, under 10, 1, 26 to 45, 1, 45 and up, 1, free white females, under 10, 2, 26 to 45, 1. (There is another George Smither in Salem Township, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, that is not in the index). vi. JOHN SCHMETTER, b. Bet. 1755 - 1774, Pennsylvania. Notes for JOHN SCHMETTER: [Smithers.FTW] 1800 U. S. Census, John Schmetter, Northampton County, Pennsylvania, unknown township, page 614, free white males under 10, 2, 10 to under 16, 1, 26 to under 45, 1, free white females, under 10, 2, 10 to under 16, 1, 26 to under 45 1. Name is spelled Schmetter. vii. PHILLIP SMITHER, b. Bet. 1755 - 1774, Pennsylvania. Notes for PHILLIP SMITHER: [Smithers.FTW] 1800 U. S. Census Phillip Smither, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, East Pennsboro township, page 122, on line image # 63. Free white males, 16 to 26, 1, 26 to 24, 1, free white females, under 10, 1, 16 to 26, 2, 26 to 45, 1, 45 and up 1. viii. RALPH SMOTHERS, b. Bef. 1760, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania. Notes for RALPH SMOTHERS: [Smithers.FTW] "Other Free Heads of Household in the 1790 Pennsylvania Census, by County Smothers, Ralph 3, Montgomery County http://www.freeafricanamericans.com/1790PAc.htm 1790 U. S. Census Ralph Smothers, State Pennsylvania, County, Montgomery, Township Cheltenham, image 0580, roll M637-9, page 156. Free White males over 16, 0, free white males under 16, 0, free white females, 8, other free persons, 3. 1800 U. S. Census, Smothers ?, Philadelphia county, Pennsylvania, unknown township, page 350, on lin eimage #. ix. CHRISTIAN SMOTHERS, b. Bet. 1760 - 1770, <Clarion Township, Armstrong County, Pennsylvania>. Notes for CHRISTIAN SMOTHERS: 1830 U. S. Census for Clarion Township, Armstrong County, Pennsylvania, page 229, Christian Smothers, free white males, under 5, 1, 10 to 15, 2, 20 to 30, 1, 30 to 40, 1, 60 to 70, 1, free white females, under 5, 2, 5 to 10, 1, 10 to 15, 1, 30 to 40, 1. ( Jacob Smothers is also listed in Armstrong County, Toby Township). x. JOHN SMITHER, b. Bet. 1765 - 1784, <Pennsylvania>. Notes for JOHN SMITHER: [Smithers.FTW] 1800 U. S. Census John Smither, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, Salem Township, page 355, John Smither, free white males, 16 to 26, 1, free white females, under 10 1, 26 to 45, 1. ( Index said John Smither is in Huntington Twp, however the image shows John and George Smither is in Salem Township). 1810 U. S. Census for Walnut Ward, township, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania, page 191, John Smither, free white males, 10 to 16, 2, 26 to 45, 1, free white females, under 10, 2, 16 to 26, 1, 26 to 45, 1. xi. JNO SENR STROTHERS, b. Bef. 1790, <Washington County, Pennsylvania>. Notes for JNO SENR STROTHERS: [Smithers.FTW] 1790 U. S. Census Washington County, Pennsylvania, unknown township, Image 0105, roll M637_9. 1790 U. S. Census for Washington County, Pennsylvania, Jon Strothers, Sr., (may be Smothers), free white males over 16, 4, free white females 7. xii. HENRY SMOTHERS, b. Bet. 1790 - 1800, <Salem Township, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania>. Notes for HENRY SMOTHERS: 1840 U. S. Census for Salem Township, Luzerne County,Pennsylvania, page 227, Henry Smothers free white males, 10 to 15, 1, 15 to 20, 1, 20 to 30, 2, 40 to 50, 1, free white females, 5 to 10, 1, 40 to 50, 1. (Samuel Smothers neighbor to Henry Smothers, William and Daniel Sink also neighbors). xiii. PETER SMOTHERS, b. Bet. 1790 - 1800, <Ohio Township, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania>. Notes for PETER SMOTHERS: 1840 U. S. Census for Ohio Township, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, page 35, Peter Smothers, free white males under 5, 1, 5 to 10, 1, 40 to 50, 1, free white females, 10 to 15, 1, 40 to 50, 1. xiv. JACOB SMOTHERS, b. Bet. 1800 - 1810, <Toby Township, Armstrong County, Pennsylvania>. Notes for JACOB SMOTHERS: 1830 U. S. Census for Toby Township, Armstrong County, Pennsylvania, page 232, Jacob Smothers, free white males under 5, 2, 20 to 30, 1, free white females, under 5, 1, 5 to 10, 1, 20 to 30, 1. (Christian Smothers also in Armstrong County, Clarion Township). xv. JOHN SMUTHERS, b. Bet. 1800 - 1810, <Clarion Township, Armstrong County, Pennsylvania>. Notes for JOHN SMUTHERS: 1830 U. S. Census for Clarion Township, Armstrong County, Pennsylvania, page 229, John Smuthers, free white males, 20 to 30, 1. (Christian Smothers 60 to 70 years is also listed on this page). xvi. GEORGE SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1807, Pennsylvania; m. MARY ANN; b. 1810, Pennsylvania. Notes for GEORGE SMOTHERS: [Smithers.FTW] Source Information: Census Place Harlem, Delaware, Ohio Family History Library Film 1255012 NA Film Number T9-1012 Page Number 444A Father born, Pennsylvania, mother born Vermont. More About GEORGE SMOTHERS: Census: 1880, Harlem, Delaware, Ohio xvii. ANTHONY SMOTHERS, b. Bet. 1810 - 1820, <Southampton Township, Bedford County, Pennsylvania>. Notes for ANTHONY SMOTHERS: 1840 U. S. Census for Southampton Township, Bedford County, Pennsylvania, page 302, Anthony Smother, free white males under 5, 1, 20 to 30, 1, free white females under 5, 1, 5 to 10, 2, 20 to 30, 1. xviii. SAMUEL SMOTHERS, b. Bet. 1810 - 1820, <Pittsburgh, East Ward Township, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania>. Notes for SAMUEL SMOTHERS: 1840 U. S. Census for Pittsburgh, East Ward Township, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, page 434, Samuel Smothers, free white males 20 to 30, 1, free white females 20 to 30, 1. xix. SAMUEL SMOTHERS, b. Bet. 1810 - 1820, <Salem Township, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania>. Notes for SAMUEL SMOTHERS: 1840 U. S. Census for Salem Township, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, page 227, Samuel Smothers, free white males, under 5, 1, 20 to 30, 1, free white females, 20 to 30 ,1. (Henry Smothers neighbor to Samuel, William Sink, Daniel Sink, neighbors). xx. GRACIE SMOTHERS, b. Bef. 1820, <Cedar Ward Township, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania>. Notes for GRACIE SMOTHERS: 1820 U. S. Census for Cedar Ward Township, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania, Gracie Smothers. xxi. DAVID SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1825, Pennsylvania; m. MARTHA; b. 1823, Pennsylvania. More About DAVID SMOTHERS: Census: 1880, Highland, Clarion, Pennsylvania, page 410A

In a message dated 1/28/03 4:11:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, smothersnena@hotmail.com writes: > Hi Tribe...just wanted to say thanks to all of you who have sent me emails > abt my research, I do appreciate it and this seems best way to say it all > at > once, [hope Karen does not mind].....I do enjoy it, even researching other > lines, never know what one might pick up to add to our own lines.....being > retired I do have the time. > > Now another little offbeat item..... Nena.....actually, I do not mind at all. Any of you that read in the subject that something is "off topic" are welcome to delete it. If you are going to post something that is not genealogy related, it's helpful to indicate that as such. I hope your brother continues to recover and same for Ron. Those Smothers are some strong folks!!! Karen Theofanides

[just thought this would give us an idea of what our ancestors were enduring during those times....send to me fr dear Smothers pal, Nena] A Soldier The following passage is from a sermon by John Hagee: I want you to close your eyes and picture in your mind the soldier at Valley Forge, as he holds his musket in his bloody hands. He stands barefoot in the snow, starved from lack of food, wounded from months of battle and emotionally scarred from the eternity away from his family surrounded by nothing but death and carnage of war. He stands though, with fire in his eyes and victory on his breath. He looks at us now in anger and disgust and tells us this... I gave you a birthright of freedom born in the Constitution and now your children graduate too illiterate to read it. I fought in the snow barefoot to give you the freedom to vote and you stay at home because it rains. I left my family destitute to give you the freedom of speech and you remain silent on critical issues, because it might be bad for business. I orphaned my children to give you a government to serve you and it has stolen democracy from the people. It's the soldier not the reporter who gives you the freedom of the press. It's the soldier not the poet who gives you the freedom of speech. It's the soldier not the campus organizer who allows you to demonstrate. It's the soldier who salutes the flag, serves the flag, whose coffin is draped with the flag that allows the protester to burn the flag. "Lord, hold our troops in your loving hands. Protect them as they protect us. Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in our time of need. I ask this in the name of Jesus, our Lord and Savior. Amen." Prayer Wheel: When you receive this, please stop for a moment and say a prayer for our U.S. ground troops in Afghanistan, AND all over this world. There is nothing attached.... This can be very powerful. Just send this to all the people in your address book. Do not stop the wheel, please. Of all the gifts you could give a US Soldier, Prayer is the very best one. A Soldier [I just had an email fr a Tx friend that says if US goes to war, everyone fr 12-60 could be called up!] _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Hi Tribe...just wanted to say thanks to all of you who have sent me emails abt my research, I do appreciate it and this seems best way to say it all at once, [hope Karen does not mind].....I do enjoy it, even researching other lines, never know what one might pick up to add to our own lines.....being retired I do have the time. Now another little offbeat item.....again, this seems best way to ask for some prayers for those in our Tribe going thru some hard times. Ron Smothers Prudhomme and my brother need your prayers, I would so appreciate it folks! We are one big family and always seem to come thru for each other and support each other, so thats why I am posting this, my brother is 2 y younger than me, 57y & just recently is recovering fr stents for his heart attack, now this, better pray for me too, as I am like a walking anxiety time bomb. thank you very much, Nena Jan 27-2003 Fr Ron Smothers Prudhomme hi Nena-Took the D&A test and signed the paper..Sent it in --Hope it works?? Will be going in the hospital for another operation thursday A.M. ..they are sure putting me through the mill talk to you later RON Big Daddy Jan 14-2003 Fr Ron Prudhomme Hi Nena-Havent been on line in quite a while ..I have been in and out of the hospital for a year. The Prudhomme clan address is my sons so now and then I got to read some Smothers mail..I had Chemo and radiation for 6 months operated on in Oct. Came down to Fla. Dec. warmer here than in Wis. Will have another operation an a few weeks than more Chemo (goody goody)Just when I am starting to feel better. Well I made my 48 wedding Anv. today anyway. Enough of that took my comp. with me down here just got on line. Maybe I can catch up on some stuff ?? I see you are looking for some Smothers males for Dna testing. If its not to late you can count me in. I am not hooked up on the Smothers site yet .Will try and remember how to do it ? Will talk to you later Nena God Bless all of you RON ------(ronprudhomme@juno.com) Jan 26 2003 Fr James Smothers [my brother] Hey, Sis. Thought I'd let you know what's happening. Go in Monday to start my chemo and radiation therapy. Chemo two stretches of five days a week, 24 hours a day. They put a pump on me in a fanny pack and a needle in my arm and I get the chemo all day and night for five days. Reduces the side effects from a big dose during a two-hour period. Will have the chemo during the first week and the fifth week of radiation treatment. Radiation will be Mon-Fri for 28 consecutive days. Will get a 4-5 wk break after chemo and radiation before doing the surgery to remove the tumor and 4" my esophagus and 1/3 of my stomach. Hopefully all cancer will be dead and will not reoccur. That's the latest.Love ya, Chip _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Rick S. Thomas ricksthomas@msn.com Subject: 2 Counties in VA, 1672-1731; 2 Counties in MD Post Date: January 04, 2003 at 16:22:24 Message URL: http://genforum.genealogy.com/smothers/messages/475.html Forum: Smothers Family Genealogy Forum Forum URL: http://genforum.genealogy.com/smothers/ 28 Apr 1650. Will of George Clark. Administratrix: Margaret, widow of the dec'd. Apprs: Randell Revell, Phillip Farrant, John Smothers, Edward Farrell. Northampton County, Virginia Deeds, Wills, Etc. #3, 1645-1651, page 208. 28 Oct 1650. Will of John Smothers. Adminstrator: Edmund Scarburgh as greatest creditor. Northampton County, Virginia Deeds, Wills, Etc. #3, 1645-1651, page 232. 5 Oct 1672. Thomas Moore, his mark of cattle (vizt) the right ear a hole in it, and the left ear swallowtailed. John Smothers, his mark of cattle (vizt) the right ear whole, and the left ear cropped and scalloped upon the crop. Northampton County, Virginia Cattle Marks, 1665-1742, page 12. Nov 1672. John Smothers judged 21 years old. Northampton County, Va, Orders, 1664-1674, Volume X, page f150. 10 Nov 1676. John Smothers and Daniel Neech were witnesses to the will of Thomas Moore, planter. 1683-Smithers. (____) (1), married Frances _____, who married as her 2nd husband some time before 3 March 1683/4, Arthur Taylor, who with his w. conveyed 300 acres on south side of Bird/Byrd River to her son James Smithers; deceased left issue: James and Richard, d. 1731 (106:287). Baltimore County, Maryland Families, 1659-1759, page 593. 1684. List of tithables, Mr. Bally's Precincts: .George Charnock, Thomas Lucas, James Smothers, John Rowles, William Pilcher. List of Tithables in Accomack County, Virginia. 1685. List of tithables, Captain Hill's Precinct: .Colonel John West, James Smothers, 1 tithe, Timothy Coe, Capt. Whittington. List of Tithables in Accomack County, Virginia, Volume VI, page 44. 25 Jul 1685. Whereas Adam Michael on the behalf of himself and the rest of the executors of the estate of his father Mr. John Michael, Sen'r, merchant, deceased, commenced suit to this court against John Smothers for the same of our hundred sixty four pounds of tobacco and cask who failing to appear to answer the said suit. Order is therefore granted him against the Sheriff for the payment of the sum immediately after the next court. The said debt then appearing due (in case of a nihil dicit of the said Smothers there) with costs of suit. Ats execon.l. Northampton County, Virginia Orders & Wills, 1683-1689, Vol 1 page 159. 26 Sep 1685. Jurors names: George Freshwater, Sr., John Adolph, George Freshwater, Jr., Thomas Norley, John Moore, Sr., John Beetee, Arnell Cossinett, John Smothers, Charles Geldinge, Roger Groves, Henry Tyson, and Thomas Wade. Northampton County, Virginia Orders & Wills, 1683-1689, Volume 1, page 172. 28 Mar 1687. Will of John Smothers. Recorded 28 Nov 1687. My soul to God and my body to be buried by my mother and sister at Gilbert Moore's plantation. My dear wife Elizabeth extrx. and guardian of my children. To my brother John Moore one feather bed. To my son William Smothers my gun. To dau. Elizabeth 3 cattle. To my dau. Santecha 3 cattle. Children to be at liberty to pick guardians at 14, with my son to be free at 18 and my daus. at 16 [if wife dies]. I leave them in the care of my father-in-law Thomas Dunton until 14. Witnesses: Gilbert Moore, Francis Costin. Northampton County, Virginia Orders, Wills, XV, No. 12, 1683-1689, page 317. 21 Jun 1687. James Smothers produced a certificate signed by Captain Richard Hill certifying that Smothers had captured Mr. Thomas Welburne's unnamed runaway servant more than ten miles from his master's house. Smothers was granted a certificate to the next assembly. Accomack County, Va, Court Orders, Vol 7 1682-1690, page 117. 1688. List of tithables, Captain Wallop's Precinct: .Edward Thornton, Jonathon Ailesworth, James Smothers, John Hancock, John Bloxan. List of Tithables in Accomack County, Virginia, Volume VI, page 485. 18 Sep 1690. List of tithables in Accomack County for 1690: Mr. Thomas Welburne's Precincts: John Stockley, Thomas Stockley, Thomas Perry, John Gladding, James Smothers, Samuel Sanford, James Davis, John Stockley, Peter Walker, and many more names. Accomack County, Virginia, Court Orders, Volume 7, 1682-1690, page 190. 1692-1731-Smithers, James (2), son of ____ (1) and Frances, was in Baltimore County by 1692 as a taxable in north side Gunpowder (River); was exempt from paying levy in June 1731 (29:160; 138). Baltimore County, Maryland Families, 1659-1759, pages 593-594. Feb 1701. Santyche Smothers judged to be 16. Northampton County, Virginia, Orders & Wills, 1698-1710, page 92. 2 Mar 1701. On the petition of Santyche Smothers, daughter of John Smothers, deceased, being attained to age according to her said father's will to be invested with her estate, by her father-in-law Joseph Benthall, Jr. as marrying her mother, the executrix of the said decedent Capt. William Harmonson and Mr. John Powell with the said parties desire the court requests to meet at the said Benthall's house on the sixth of March next about ten o'clock in the forenoon to see the said Santyche Smothers her estate delivered her according to her father's will and her grandfather Thomas Dunton, Sr., his deed of gift. Northampton County, Va Orders & Wills, 1698-1710, Volume 1, page 92. 26 Oct 1709. Will of Obedience Roberts. Recorded 28 Nov 1709. Witnesses: William Waterson, Henry (X) Elligood, William (X) Smothers, William Waters. Northampton County, Virginia Deeds, Wills, Etc. #19, 1708-1717, page 102. 1710-Smithers, Richard (3), son of ___ (1), and brother of James (2), died by 18 May 1731 in Kent County, Maryland; married 1st on 14 Feb 1710/1 to Blanche Wells, daughter of Colonel George Wells; she was exec. of est. of James Ives in July 1708/; she died 19 March 1708/9, and he married 2nd Philizanna Maxwell; married 3rd to Mary Phillips, daughter of James Phillips, and executrix of John Carville of Kent County; in November 1724 he was summoned for contempt of court in not delivering the est. of his son John to the court; conveyed property to daughter Blanch; died leaving a will, 23 Dec 1730-18 May 1731, naming wife Mary, who have been widow of John Carville, brother James, children Blanch, born 28 Feb 1702; John, born 3 Aug 1704, living in 1731; George, born 29 Jan 1708 on 25 April 1715 bound himself to Colonel George Wells of Baltimore County; Mary, born 15 Oct 1710 (1:54; 2:95, 266; 26:312; 27:44; 67:367; 69:37, 304; 128: 12, 25, 26; 200-38:355; 201-1:147). Baltimore County, Maryland Families, 1659-1759, page 594. 25 Apr 1719. William Smothers. Adminstrator: Tilney Dixon. Appraisers: Francis Costin, George Clark, Smith Watts, Thomas Costin. Northampton County, Virginia Orders #17, 1719-1722, page 5. 1722, March ye 26th, Roger Hicks and William Milborn were elected Vestrymen, and Philip Brooks and William Smothers chosen Church Wardens. Old Kent County (Shrewsbury Parish), Maryland, page 358. Daniel Smothers Sally Love lhopkins@arkansas.net Leslie Hopkins http://www.geocities.com/jlt3hranch Household:1880 census John SMOTHER SR. Self M Male W 74 KY Farmer KY KY Sarah A. SMOTHER Wife M Female W 55 KY K House KY KY John SMOTHER JR. Son S Male W 22 KY Lf KY KY S. George SMOTHER Son S Male W 20 KY Lf KY KY Source Information:Census Place Bradfordsville, Marion, Kentucky Family History Library Film 1254432 NA Film Number T9-0432 Pg 61A Household: Robinson SMOTHERS Self D Male W 60 KY Farmer DELAWARE DELAWARE Rebbie SMOTHERS Sister S Female W 65 KY KHouse DELAWARE DELAWARE Source Information:Census Place Bradfordsville, Marion, Kentucky Family History Library Film 1254432 NA Film Number T9-0432 Pg 70D Household: Sallie SMOTHERS Self D Female W 55 KY KHouse KY KY Harriett SMOTHERS Dau S Female W 33 KY At Home KY KY Source Information:Census Place Bradfordsville, Marion, Kentucky Family History Library Film 1254432 NA Film Number T9-0432 Pg 70D I have loaded a web site which has some of the descendants of William Wright. http://www.geocities.com/jlt3hranch I also have the book "Ancestry of William Henry Wright" by Watie Delfa Wright Ellis if anyone would like a look-up. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? 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From: "Darrell Warner" <darrellwarner@kc.rr.com> To: KYBATH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYBATH] Website Important Please Read! Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:10:13 -0600 After getting everything figured out the final opening page of the Bath County Site will be http://www.rootsweb.com/~kybath/bathcounty.html There was some confusing e-mail sent to me along with a bit of ignorance from me. (Mostly working on this at 2 am) The above website ....... I promise....... will not change and you are safe to book mark it. Thanks for the interst in the surname registry. I have recieved many names and it is looking so good and I have recieved many positive comments about it. http://rootsweb.com/~kybath/surnames-registry.html If you haven't sent yours in please do so. Remeber this is our site I just do the work. Please feel free to suggest anything that may make this site better!!!!!!! I have added a new page to the website. It has to do with vital records. You will find it at http://rootsweb.com/~kybath/vital_records_information.html I know I am always using the sites I have listed. If there are other sites that you use and you think it would be helpful to others please let me know what they are so I can add them in. Please e-mail me and let me know what you think about the vital records page. As for me.... yes I may be a bit excited and going a bit overboard on our site but I see something that all of us can grow into something special. I have been looking at a lot of the other Kentucky county sites and I really would like to see us the best county site of all. As you will notice I don't use a lot of frills on the page. I try to keep it simple to load and easy to understand. Just a short story here that may make your skin crawl. I went to a psycic (spelling) fair with a lady friend of mine last week and sat down in a booth to have a reading. I think I freaked the lady out. Her face got real serious and finally she came out with what here feelings were. Quote: I have never met anyone that is surrounded by death the way that you are. Don't be alarmed but death surrounds you. I don't understand but it appears that there are many folks that have past over that watch over you. I told her that I spend at least an hour of every day dealing with people that have died. I told her that I am a Geanealogist. After explaining what a geanealogist was she sat back with an odd look on her face. To make this story short..... I am not sure who was more taken back by this. Her or me!!!!! Maybe what we do is noticed by our ancestors that have gone before us. Maybe it is all a buch of bunk. I will let you decide for yourself. As for me.......you ha!d to be there......Take care and be well,>Darrell _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Hi, Daniel and Angelina are my great-grandparents. The name Daniel's brother is Orin not Arin. He and his brother Charles died very close together from the black something my mother said. They lived in the Gahanna area of Ohio. Daniel Smithers/Smothers - Laura Smothers Baker, Esther Baker Schrader, Janet Schrader Greentree They changed the name from Smithers to Smothers because they thought it sounded better or at least that is the story that was passed down. Daniel was in the Civil War with the 18th U.S. with the Army of the Ohio and was wounded several times. He was a Sergeant, hurt his back on the way to Tennessee, and was sent back to Ohio to recuperate. His daugther married William Baker, son of George Baker, a Confederate, who was sent to Camp Chase, Ohio after being captured in Woodstock, VA. Janet

From: "lois wallace" <loiswallace@charter.net> To: "Nena Smothers" <smothersnena@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:32:24 -0500 Nina>Just recieved a packages of notes from a Seneca Co. researcher. This took my eye and thought it might help some one. 2 Pages with Cemetery info. RED BANK CEMETERY Their are 7 stones drawn on it. #2 is the bigest with "In Memory" on it, #4 "John" #^ Geos, 1, 3.5 & 6 are small. Now to what is wrote on this page. In memory of George s/o John & Rosa Linda Smothers d. 11 Dec 1826 age 5 weeks. Also 2 infant sons, the first of which d. 1831, second 1833 John Smothers d. 20 Dec 1867 age 70 Henry Smothers d. 21 Nov 1872 age 60yrs14mo18da Elizabeth w/o Henry Smothers ?(Birdsell)? d 21 Sep 1890 71yr1mo27da Orrel A. Smothers 1842-1917 Markers on Tussis Rd. Cemetery #1 Angelina Smothers Daniel F. Smethers 1842-1918 Oct 19 1841 Oct 12 1892 51yrs1mo23da #2 Charles E. Smothers Arin H. Smethers Jun 21 1872 4-24-1870 Dec 14 1881 12-8-1891 19yr3mo28da 21yrs7mo14da #3 Ima A. Smothers Born 10 1871 #4 Roberty Mahaffey Elizabeth w/o Robert 4-17-1892 Jun 17 1907 86yr 3mo 3da 77yr8mo10da #5 Matthew Mahaffey Priscilla w/o Matthew Feb 15 1876 Feb 24 1876 72yr4mo4da 83yr8mo10da #7 George MCLevel/livil Emily w/o George 2-4-1890 Feb 24 1890 68yr8mo7da 74yr1mo28da under this is wrote: Parents of Amos & Homer) Whoever wrote this must have knew of a tie in too, these families. Maybe you'r wall will have them on it already. Just though someone might be looking for them.>Lois _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

[grin].....google.com and typed in willie nelson + biographies My question I am curious abt WHY in the world did his mother desert him and Bobbie...what a shame...I looked for her in Tx death records and she was not there.....there were several Ira Nelson's and had no idea which one was him, but I figured Ira must have died when Willie was quite young and his grandparents took him in, I was just curious. Nena From: Katheo2@aol.com Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:13:48 EST Nena.......where in the world did you get all the notes and extra info? That was great! Thanks a bunch!>Karen Theofanides _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail