Still searching for the following information. The date and place that Austin L. Smothers (born, 16 Sep, 1827, TN) expired and where his final resting place is. The Same information is wanted on his wife, Mary E. Elizabeth Henry Smothers. (born 15 Aug, 1832) Jan & Joe Smothers

In a message dated 11/02/2000 12:45:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Still searching for the following information. The date and place that Austin L. Smothers (born, 16 Sep, 1827, TN) expired and where his final resting place is. The Same information is wanted on his wife, Mary E. Elizabeth Henry Smothers. (born 15 Aug, 1832) Jan & Joe Smothers >> Jan I have this in my records for Karen's Austin L. Smothers........ Austin L. Smothers b: September 16, 1827 in Carroll Co., Tennessee d: January 01, 1915 in Ryan, Jefferson Co., Oklahoma .. +Mary E. Elizabeth Henry b: August 15, 1832 in Carroll Co., Tennessee m: March 01, 1850 in Carroll Co.,Tennessee d: July 15, 1892 in Ryan, Jefferson Co., Oklahoma Burial: Ryan, Jefferson Co., Oklahoma Now, as far as what cemetery in Ryan......I don't know. I'm from Oklahoma, but am not familiar with Ryan at all. Never heard of it....... Bernie

Hi I was contacted recently by a young girl, trying to trace her Smothers roots. She initially found me because of my Smothers connection to Mountain Home, Baxter Co., in Arkansas. It seems that her descendant, George W. Smothers died there of suicide. His widow moved the family to Chandler, Oklahoma and that is about all that I can surmise from my exchanges with this young woman, Jean. I checked Social Security records and came up with a little data on her great uncles......but, that's about it. This branch should connect to Elisha M. (1800-1881).......just can't figure out where. My guess is that the George W. Smothers shown in the below chart, was probably born circa 1880? Any guesses, anyone? Descendants of George W. Smothers 1 George W. Smothers .. +Feeby Ann ? ......... 2 James Thomas Smothers ............. +? Butler .................... 3 Ethel Smothers b: 1947 ........................ +? Baker ......... 2 Creasie Smothers ......... 2 Vera Smothers ......... 2 Dock Smothers b: March 07, 1902 d: December 1984 in Edmond, Oklahoma Co., Oklahoma ......... 2 Dorsey Smothers b: September 17, 1904 d: March 1984 in Agra, Lincoln Co., Oklahoma ......... 2 Eunice Smothers Also, in another note.......I have been in contact with a new Sinor researcher and she THINKS that she MAY have a photograph of Elisha Smothers, taken shortly before his death. I'll keep you updated on that. Bernie

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Found this information maybe someone can use it. SMOTHERS, Earl DVA # 836352 Born: 1/2/1913 and no death date listed on index.......may be on the file? The address to write/call to order records is below......Dean can quote you a price if you ordered the records by phone I am sure. Thanks and Good Luck, Cherie ADDRESS TO WRITE FOR RECORDS: Dean Vanderhoof Customer Service Specialist II Archives & Records Management 1129 Washington Street SE Olympia, WA 98504-0238 Phone # 360-586-4505

In a message dated 10/29/00 10:32:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > >John R. Smothers b.Dec 05 1763 Penn.---d,July 31 1855 Franklin Co. Ill. > >1st Sp. Catherine Sherwood b, abt,1775 N.C.d. abt. 1836 Tn. > >Married in Nashville Tn.Apr. 04 1803 . > Sorry....don't think this would work. Elisha's DOB was 1800. Karen

At 03:31 PM 10/29/00 -0800, you wrote: > > > in your files do you have John R. Smotherb 1780 d 1855 > married 1st to Cathrine Sherwood b 1774 d 1836 > 2nd marriage was Mima Ridley b 1820 d 1850 > > my records show john son of Thomas and Susannah Gilliam > > i also show Thomas is son or Andrew and Sarah Smothers > Does this fit in your tree > > fran > > >============================== >Search over 600 million names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/search > > Hi Fran I wish I did have more on John What i Do have is John R. Smothers b.Dec 05 1763 Penn.---d,July 31 1855 Franklin Co. Ill. 1st Sp. Catherine Sherwood b, abt,1775 N.C.d. abt. 1836 Tn. Married in Nashville Tn.Apr. 04 1803 . Children ------11 --With John John H. Smothers Thomas-"" Elizabeth "" Catherine "" William W. "" Rebecca "" Elisha "" Sarah "" Elinore-Nelly "" Mary--Polly "" Milkey "" - ------------------------------------------ 2nd Sp. Mima Ridley b. abt 1812 TN. d. 1848 Franklin Co. Ill. married Mar. 18 1836 Rutherford Co. TN. ----------------Children 6 With John Edmond Smothers Nancy "" Martin "" Jackson "" Elihu - Liles "" James "" I also found a Rhoda Smothers B, Smothers b, 1796 TN. d. 1867 TN. Sp. Ashley Stinson b. 1796 N.C. d. 1845 TN. THey also had 15 Children Acording to L.D.S. site Rhoda was the Daughter of John & Catherine Smothers >> But I dont Quite believe That!! Been tring to check and see if I can find any thing more on Rhoda .. Some think that it might be Johns Sister, And I just dont have any Idea ??????????? As for John R. Smothers Parents I dont have any yet Might have hit some thing on the Rutherford Co. Tn. Gen Site They have a John Smothers SR. and A John Smothers Jr.listed in 1803 they also have a lot of Sherwood and Ridley familys to look up!!!!Maybe ill Be lucky ??????????Have a good day RON

in your files do you have John R. Smotherb 1780 d 1855 married 1st to Cathrine Sherwood b 1774 d 1836 2nd marriage was Mima Ridley b 1820 d 1850 my records show john son of Thomas and Susannah Gilliam i also show Thomas is son or Andrew and Sarah Smothers Does this fit in your tree fran

Hey, you Elisha lines..russ, Karen...etc what ya think...could this John be the father would that not be too cool >From: ron prudhomme <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [SMOTHERS] John Smothers >Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 22:05:03 -0600 > >At 03:31 PM 10/29/00 -0800, you wrote: > > > > > > in your files do you have John R. Smotherb 1780 d 1855 > > married 1st to Cathrine Sherwood b 1774 d 1836 > > 2nd marriage was Mima Ridley b 1820 d 1850 > > > > my records show john son of Thomas and Susannah Gilliam > > > > i also show Thomas is son or Andrew and Sarah Smothers > > Does this fit in your tree > > > > fran > > > > > >============================== > >Search over 600 million names at Ancestry.com! > >http://www.ancestry.com/search > > > > >Hi Fran >I wish I did have more on John What i Do have is >John R. Smothers b.Dec 05 1763 Penn.---d,July 31 1855 Franklin Co. Ill. >1st Sp. Catherine Sherwood b, abt,1775 N.C.d. abt. 1836 Tn. >Married in Nashville Tn.Apr. 04 1803 . >Children ------11 --With John >John H. Smothers >Thomas-"" >Elizabeth "" >Catherine "" >William W. "" >Rebecca "" >Elisha "" >Sarah "" >Elinore-Nelly "" >Mary--Polly "" >Milkey "" >-------------------------------------------- > > >2nd Sp. Mima Ridley b. abt 1812 TN. d. 1848 Franklin Co. Ill. >married Mar. 18 1836 Rutherford Co. TN. > ----------------Children 6 With John >Edmond Smothers >Nancy "" >Martin "" >Jackson "" >Elihu - Liles "" >James "" > I also found a Rhoda Smothers B, Smothers b, 1796 TN. d. 1867 TN. >Sp. Ashley Stinson b. 1796 N.C. d. 1845 TN. >THey also had 15 Children > Acording to L.D.S. site Rhoda was the Daughter of John & Catherine >Smothers >> But I dont Quite believe That!! Been tring to check and see if >I can find any thing more on Rhoda .. >Some think that it might be Johns Sister, >And I just dont have any Idea ??????????? >As for John R. Smothers Parents I dont have any yet Might have hit some >thing on the Rutherford Co. Tn. Gen Site They have a John Smothers SR. and >A John Smothers Jr.listed >in 1803 they also have a lot of Sherwood and Ridley familys to look >up!!!!Maybe ill Be lucky ??????????Have a good day >RON > > >============================== >Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate >your heritage! >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Yes, from me, but only because of what I've been told from this list. >From: frances smothers <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [SMOTHERS] John Smothers >Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 15:31:21 -0800 > > > > in your files do you have John R. Smotherb 1780 d 1855 > married 1st to Cathrine Sherwood b 1774 d 1836 > 2nd marriage was Mima Ridley b 1820 d 1850 > > my records show john son of Thomas and Susannah Gilliam > > i also show Thomas is son or Andrew and Sarah Smothers > Does this fit in your tree > > fran > > >============================== >Search over 600 million names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/search > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Karen: you ditto my own thought! Already figured that scenerio out...today we are totally scrutanized I am sure...I've seen the app forms and they are totally different than when like this one ancestor applied iin 1967...Debbie and I are ...like up a salt creek and a paddle wont work..hehe >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [SMOTHERS] DAR records >Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 10:34:35 EST > >Wow.....Nena......that is VERY frustrating!!! I was talking to another DAR >member the other day. She wants to file paperwork for yet another Rev. war >ancestor. Someone several years ago filed paperwork on this same ancestor, >with the WRONG info on the descendants. She is having a terrible time >"righting the wrong" and my friend is the one who has many of the original >documents needed for proof! She is the lucky soul whose grandmother was >interested in family and kept every scrap of paperwork that had anything to >do with family. I'm glad I'm not in that situation! Another note: I >have >heard that sometimes, the older DAR appl. were not scrutinized as closely >as >now, and that there are some errors in them. So nowdays, you really have >to >document your lines thouroughly. Good luck!!!! > >Karen > > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Wow.....Nena......that is VERY frustrating!!! I was talking to another DAR member the other day. She wants to file paperwork for yet another Rev. war ancestor. Someone several years ago filed paperwork on this same ancestor, with the WRONG info on the descendants. She is having a terrible time "righting the wrong" and my friend is the one who has many of the original documents needed for proof! She is the lucky soul whose grandmother was interested in family and kept every scrap of paperwork that had anything to do with family. I'm glad I'm not in that situation! Another note: I have heard that sometimes, the older DAR appl. were not scrutinized as closely as now, and that there are some errors in them. So nowdays, you really have to document your lines thouroughly. Good luck!!!! Karen

All of you out there who have John R. Smothers on their Tree !!While checking out Rutherford County TN. I found a list of the Citizens From DAVIDSON AND WILLIAMSON Counties Of TN. Requesting the Establishment of Rutherford County Tn, Aug 10 1803 ---on this list was JOHN SMOTHERS SR and JOHN SMOTHERS JR. Dont know if this was my John Smothers or not??My John Smothers Married Catherine Sherwood in Davidson Co. in 1803 .So it could have been him--He later Married Mima Ridley 1838 Have to check some more!!! I did get this from Rutherford Co,Gen.Site.... RON John R. Smothers married Mima Ridley March 18, 1836 in Rutherford County. Surety was Moses G Reeves. John Smothers Record Book 6, page 92 Inventory Rachel Sharpe. Daughter Peggy Hibbets, Jemiana A Sharpe - son Joseph Sharpe, William Sharpe, daughter Polly Young Cannon. Alfred Sharpe guardian for Jemia Sharpe. Peggy Sharpe Hibbets husband Robert Hibbets. John Smothers bought something at the sale. Executor Joseph Canon. Named in the Inv , but no relationship claimed. MOses Ridley, Henry Ridley. May 1825 Record Book 6, page 236 (Rutherford County) Benjamin Sheerwood of Rutherford County left to his wife Polly Sherwood all his pershiable property as long as she remained a widow. Children Rebecka H Sherwood, and Hezekiah L. Sherwood - Dated June 1826. Record Book 7, page 15, Polly Smothers is admr of Benjamin Sherwood. INventory of estate. Several items sold, including to JOhn Smothers. Recorded Jan 15, 1828 Record Book 8, page 179 Will of Thomas Robertson. I leave my land to my wife Frances Robertson and son John Robertson thirty seven and 1/2 acres we now live on. Also leave my wife Franceis Robertson all the estate that comes to me from her fathers estate John Cole, and that I made William Cole Senr of Halifax County VA a power of attorney to attend to her life time of her death to be equally divided between my five children John Robertson, James Robertson, Polly Shearwood, Eady C Robertson, Cidndy Robinson. Mar 31, 1830.

ANY help is welcome...my cuz Deb and I have recently found out, thanks to a DAR app we have in possession of a past cousin...the dob and all military info for our missing Smithers is THAT of a BLACK Smithers who m. a Nancy Brown!!! yes, indeed...Noah and I discussed this long ago...and its indeed true...the dob for our missing Bill's father is this black Smithers dob and he lived to be 91 yrs old and in Dearborne, Ind...our Smithers [Bill's father] supposedly died by Indians in Va about 1770-1774[around 30 yrs old or so as Bill was suppose to be on 12yrs old when his father was killed and his mother, supposedly, died 9 days later from the shock of it????]...oh dear me...talk about real mess...we may NEVER be able to straigten this mess out to even get accepted by DAR ourselves. I do not understand how DAR did not find out this info anyway. Now we are not even sure when our Bill was born, much less his father's name..in a book written about him...his dad is called Henry and wife Mary...well, no one will lay claim to a Mary Hite Dubois marrying a Smithers....one stumbling block after another.....and on this DAR app we have, Bill's dad is ironically listed as a William Smithers sr...so thats probably where Bill being known as bill jr got tagged...oh dear me....and then another piece of work I just got from a library in TX, where our Bill died in 1837, his father is called GEORGE!!! bless my soul!..now try to unravel this mess of tangled webs someone has spun for us.....<smile>...trying!! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

after a bit, it can really drive a person frustrated!!!....why couldnt they name them hoover or vacuum or bloosum or icebox..he he >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [SMOTHERS] Site for info on James F. Smothers >Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:50:45 EDT > >Nena.....thanks for the link to that site. The name is the same, but that >is >a different James Franklin. Isn't it funny how names repeat themselves in >families? >Karen > > >============================== >The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! >http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1 > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Most public libraries have the Patriots index,We try to kepp ours up to date you might contact Doris Henson at [email protected] or Va. Pafford at [email protected] they both work at the Benton Co. (tn) library & might look inf. up for you.I have just had surgery & am not doing my "thing "at the Library right now. Frances Sims -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, October 28, 2000 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [SMOTHERS] access DAR records online >In a message dated 10/28/00 12:53:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: >> how or who has the link or site to access DAR Patriot Index >> or obtain DAR info on applications > >Nena......to reach the DAR website, <A >HREF="http://www.dar.org/natsociety/default.html">Daughters of the American >Revolution</A> >http://www.dar.org/natsociety/default.html > >I'm not aware of the DAR Patriot Index being online. I can ask some other >DAR members that I know. I just had my DAR application approved earlier this >month and I'm not quite sure of what resources are available to me yet. I'll >certainly help, if I can. > >Karen > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

www.dar.org this also accesses other sites such as the dar library > -----Original Message----- > From: Nena Smothers [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 2:53 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SMOTHERS] access DAR records online > > > how or who has the link or site to access DAR Patriot Index > or obtain DAR info on applications > ______________________________________________________________ > ___________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >

In a message dated 10/28/00 12:53:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > how or who has the link or site to access DAR Patriot Index > or obtain DAR info on applications Nena......to reach the DAR website, <A HREF="http://www.dar.org/natsociety/default.html">Daughters of the American Revolution</A> http://www.dar.org/natsociety/default.html I'm not aware of the DAR Patriot Index being online. I can ask some other DAR members that I know. I just had my DAR application approved earlier this month and I'm not quite sure of what resources are available to me yet. I'll certainly help, if I can. Karen

Nena.....thanks for the link to that site. The name is the same, but that is a different James Franklin. Isn't it funny how names repeat themselves in families? Karen

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