Does anyone know about this family that was listed in the 1850 census in Dyer Co., TN Willie Smothers, 21 b. 1829 TN A.Smothers, wife 20 b 1830 TN and 2 children ages 2 and 4. One listed as H. (for Henry?) Thank you Ruth Curtis

I was recently contacted by Velda Meadows who is trying to determine the ancestors of her great grandfather Thomas F. SMOTHERS. Below is the information I have from Velda -- it does not match up with anyone in my records. Perhaps someone on the List can help? THOMAS F. SMOTHERS b 1830 (TN), d Jan 1880 (KY) Married: ELIZABETH WOLFE 30 Nov 1849 in Davidson Co., TN Children: SARAH A. b 8 JAN-1854 (TN or KY) MARY JANE b 9 FEB-1856 (TN or KY) JAMES H. b 20-FEB-1858 (TN or KY) MINERVA F. b 1859 (TN or KY) MARTHA ARTEMIS b 5-FEB-1861 (KY) THOMAS R. b 13-MAR-1863 (KY) ROBERT M. b 15-JUNE-1865 (KY) NANCY ELLEN b NOV-1869 (KY) SUSAN ISABELLE b 9-APR-1870 (KY) JOCELYN b 1873 (KY) This family was living in Davidson Co., TN, for 1850 census; then in Marshall Co., KY, for the 1860 and 1870 censuses. Bill Smothers <[email protected]> Delaware

Here are three (3) SMOTHERS listed in the 1850 Davidson County, TN census Jim 1850 Davidson-193-369 SMOTHERS, Linah 48, James 28, Martha 23, Levi 18, Alex 6, T T 1850 Davidson-633-433 SMOTHERS,Thomas 21, Elizabeth/Eliza 19, Nancy COLLINS 20, T T, 1850 Davidson-640-433 SMOTHERS, Sarah 37, Wm. 18,T T, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Smothers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 1:49 PM Subject: [SMOTHERS] Thomsa F. SMOTHERS b 1830 TN | I was recently contacted by Velda Meadows who is trying to determine the | ancestors of her great grandfather Thomas F. SMOTHERS. Below is the information | I have from Velda -- it does not match up with anyone in my records. Perhaps | someone on the List can help? | | | THOMAS F. SMOTHERS b 1830 (TN), d Jan 1880 (KY) | Married: ELIZABETH WOLFE 30 Nov 1849 in Davidson Co., TN | Children: | SARAH A. b 8 JAN-1854 (TN or KY) | MARY JANE b 9 FEB-1856 (TN or KY) | JAMES H. b 20-FEB-1858 (TN or KY) | MINERVA F. b 1859 (TN or KY) | MARTHA ARTEMIS b 5-FEB-1861 (KY) | THOMAS R. b 13-MAR-1863 (KY) | ROBERT M. b 15-JUNE-1865 (KY) | NANCY ELLEN b NOV-1869 (KY) | SUSAN ISABELLE b 9-APR-1870 (KY) | JOCELYN b 1873 (KY) | | | This family was living in Davidson Co., TN, for 1850 census; then in Marshall | Co., KY, for the 1860 and 1870 censuses. | | Bill Smothers <[email protected]> | Delaware | | | | ============================== | Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate | your heritage! | http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog |

Thanks Noah for posting this data on the Smothers line from North Carolina. This probably is a part of the line that I posted last year from the Free People of Color census, there in North Carolina, you think? Mine was an earlier year, if I recall correctly. Wish that I knew more about North Carolina geography to know whether my Elisha (b1800) was connected to this line that you posted. I have in my note to file that someone on the List had posted migration data on Elisha and his brothers and this data supported the theory that Elisha's older brothers were born in North Carolina and that the two youngest in Tennessee, which the later included Elisha. Found the note and it was none other that our Ed Oxford, long time Smothers researcher........ <<Note: Ed Oxford in 1998. Carroll Co., Tennessee was formed in 1821 from Indian land. No one was allowed to settle in that area until after that date. There were four brothers, Jacob, John, Elisha and William that settled in Carroll Co., Tennessee in 1822. Jacob and John were born in North Carolina and Elisha and William were born in Tennessee. Tennessee was formed from North Carolina in 1796. So, Jacob and John were born before that date, 1796. Elisha and William, after that date, 1796.>> So, per this note......It makes me think that the early Tennessee settlement (prior to the opening of Carroll Co., Tennessee in 1821) was the Sumner Co., Tennessee area that we are seeing the records of various Smothers' families of record? The Ridge? Ex: Poll tax lists from 1816-1818? Could be that if Elisha (b1800) was Mulatto.....that his first wife could have been Indian or Black and a marriage record may well never be found of record. So far, it hasn't........I do have a theory of which Virginia tribe that I THINK that Sarah may have been born into and this particular tribe was a mixture of Black and Appreciate your sharing this and maybe one day, I will get to look closer at North Carolina boundaries. Bernie

Thank you Noah, I will go over this tomorrow. I see the Names of SMOTHERS and WRIGHT, which are in our direct line. Until Later, Jan & Joe Smothers. <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 6:01 PM Subject: [SMOTHERS] Thomas Randall Smothers

Descendants of Thomas Randall Smathers/Smothers Generation No. 1 1. THOMAS RANDALL1 SMATHERS/SMOTHERS was born Abt. 1805 in North Carolina/ Virginia, and died March 14, 1881 in Rockingham, Co., North Carolina. He married SUSAN MAYS August 18, 1830 in Guilford, North Carolina. Notes for THOMAS RANDALL SMATHERS/SMOTHERS: IGI Record, batch numer 7733415, source call no. 1126169, Susana Mays married Thomas R. Smathers, 18 aug. 1830 Guilford, North Carolina, record no. 02 406, bondsman Stephen Young, witness A.E. Hanner, bond # 000059676. 1850 Census Rockingham Co., N.C., Eastern Division: 641/651 Smothers, Thomas 45 Farmer, b. N.C. cannot read or write Susan, 37, F, b. VA. W. H. C. 17, M, laborer, b. Va. G. D. 16, M, b. Va. (att. sch) S. A. 14 F, b. VA. T. M. 12, M, b. Va. N. W. 10, M, b. Va. A. J. 7 M, b. Va. N. E. 5, F., b. Va. M. J. 1, F, b. Va. Fages, M. A. 36, b. N.C., (cannot read or write) All of the family are listed as mulatto, except Susan. In the 1860 census they are listed as born in N.C., not Virginia. Children of THOMAS SMATHERS/SMOTHERS and SUSAN MAYS are: i. WILLIAM C.2 SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1833, Virginia; d. April 19, 1865, Point Lookout, MD. POW. Notes for WILLIAM C. SMOTHERS: The Rockingham County, N. C. 1850 census has W.H.C. Smothers 17, M. Laborer, born VA. Father Thomas, mother Susan. Wiliam C. Smothers enlisted in the Confederacy, Rockingham Co., N.C., 27 Feb. 1862, as a Private age 30. Served North Carolina in E.Co. 45th Inf. Reg. died disease POW at Point Lookout, MD. on 19 April 1865 (died inflammation on the lungs). Source North Carolina Troops 1861-65, A Roster. ii. GARLAND DABNEY SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1834, Virginia. Notes for GARLAND DABNEY SMOTHERS: The 1850 Rockingham census has G.D. Smothers 16, M. Laborer, born VA. att. sch., father Thomas, mother Susan. Garland D. Smothers, enlisted 03 May 1861, Rockingham County, North Carolina, private age 26, Promoted to Full Corpl on 15 April 1862, Promoted to Full Sergt on 01 Sept. 1862. served North Carolina, enlisted I Co. 13th Inf. Reg. NC. Killed at South Mountain, MD., on 14 Sep. 1862. source North Carolina Troops 1861-65, A roster. Confederacy iii. SARAH ADELINE SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1836, Virginia; m. WILLIAM B. JONES, December 28, 1864, Rockingham, North Carolina. Notes for SARAH ADELINE SMOTHERS: Marriage record # 01 135, bondsman James Boggs, Bond #: 000120339. Source: North Carolina marriage bonds 1741-1868. 2. iv. THOMAS MADISON SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1838, Virginia. 3. v. NATHAN WRIGHT SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1840, Virginia. vi. ANDREW JACKSON SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1843, Virginia; m. HARRIETT E. WADE, July 08, 1865, Rockingham, North Carolina. vii. MARGARET E. SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1845, Virginia; m. THOMAS P. HOPKINS, January 02, 1867, Rockingham, North Carolina. viii. MARY J. SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1849, Virginia. Generation No. 2 2. THOMAS MADISON2 SMOTHERS (THOMAS RANDALL1 SMATHERS/SMOTHERS) was born Abt. 1838 in Virginia. He married EMELINE COIL GARRETT October 21, 1868 in Rockingham, North Carolina, daughter of JARRETT GARRETT and CLARISSA HILL. Notes for THOMAS MADISON SMOTHERS: Civil War Muster Rolls Thomas Madison Smothers, enlisted 21 August 1861, Rockingham County, North Carolina, Private, served North Carolina I Co. 13th Inf. Reg. NC. source North Carolina Troops 1861-65, A. Roster. Confederacy. Civil War Pension Index Thomas M. Smothers, wife Emma C. Smothers, filed North Carolina. Marriage: Groom Thomas M. Smothers, bride Emily Garrett, bond date 21 OCt., 1868, county Rockingham, record #: 01 242, witness: W. M. Ellington, bond #: 000121823, comment: additional Data on Bond. Children of THOMAS SMOTHERS and EMELINE GARRETT are: 4. i. HUGH PATRICK3 SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1871. ii. JOHN RAINE SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1873. 5. iii. THOMAS BOLLING/BOLYN SMOTHERS, b. May 01, 1874, New Bethel Rockingham, N.C.; d. August 15, 1958, Winston Salem, North Carolina. iv. SUE LILLIAN SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1877. v. OLLIE LORENE SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1879. vi. INFANT SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1881. vii. INFANT SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1881. viii. GUS GARRETT SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1883. ix. RUBEN REID SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1885. x. ADDIE WALTON SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1887; m. JOSEPH LEE JARVIS. 3. NATHAN WRIGHT2 SMOTHERS (THOMAS RANDALL1 SMATHERS/SMOTHERS) was born Abt. 1840 in Virginia. He married MARY T. JONES, daughter of GREEN JONES and MARY BROWN. Notes for NATHAN WRIGHT SMOTHERS: 1850 Census for Rockingham Co., N.C., has N.W. Smothers, age 10, m., born Va. father Thomas mother Susan. Nathan W. Smothers enllisted in the Confederacy, Rockingham, Co., N.C., 27 June, 1862, age 21, served in the E.Co., 45th, INf. Reg., N.C., worked as a farmer, (served as a teamster for much of the war). Source: North Carolina Troops 1861-65, A. Roster. Abbreviation: NCRosterC. Children of NATHAN SMOTHERS and MARY JONES are: i. MARY SUE3 SMOTHERS. ii. THOMAS SMOTHERS. iii. ELONZO LEE SMOTHERS, b. November 03, 1882. iv. NATHAN WRIGHT "LITTLE WRIGHT" SMOTHERS, b. September 22, 1885. v. CHALMERS J. SMOTHERS, b. February 09, 1888. Generation No. 3 4. HUGH PATRICK3 SMOTHERS (THOMAS MADISON2, THOMAS RANDALL1 SMATHERS/SMOTHERS) was born Abt. 1871. Child of HUGH PATRICK SMOTHERS is: i. HUGH PATRICK SMOTHERS4 JR., b. December 12, 1900; d. July 19, 1981, High Point, Guilford, North Carolina; m. TILLIE SIOUSKA SCOTT. 5. THOMAS BOLLING/BOLYN3 SMOTHERS (THOMAS MADISON2, THOMAS RANDALL1 SMATHERS/SMOTHERS) was born May 01, 1874 in New Bethel Rockingham, N.C., and died August 15, 1958 in Winston Salem, North Carolina. He married MAUDE FRANCIS REID February 05, 1899 in Mayodan, N.C.. Children of THOMAS SMOTHERS and MAUDE REID are: 6. i. THOMAS BOLYN SMOTHERS4 JR., b. July 27, 1908, North Carolina; d. April 26, 1945, Japan. ii. BRONA REID SMOTHERS, b. February 22, 1910. iii. PAUL G. SMOTHERS, b. May 14, 1903. Generation No. 4 6. THOMAS BOLYN SMOTHERS4 JR. (THOMAS BOLLING/BOLYN3 SMOTHERS, THOMAS MADISON2, THOMAS RANDALL1 SMATHERS/SMOTHERS) was born July 27, 1908 in North Carolina, and died April 26, 1945 in Japan. He married RUTH REMICK January 1935. Notes for THOMAS BOLYN SMOTHERS JR.: Major Thomas Bolyn Smothers III, was stationed at Governor's Island, New York City, the Smothers Brothers, Tom and Dick were born in the base Hospital. Major Smothers died aboard a prisoner of war ship, Japan, April 26, 1945. Children of THOMAS JR. and RUTH REMICK are: i. THOMAS BOLYN5 SMOTHERS III, b. February 02, 1937, New York City, Governor's Island. Notes for THOMAS BOLYN SMOTHERS III: Thomas Bolyn Smothers III, also known as Tom Smothers, of the famous Smothers Brother's duo, comedian, actor, singer. Much has been written about Tom and Dick Smothers. ii. RICHARD RICKETT SMOTHERS, b. November 20, 1939, NEW York City, Governor's Island. Notes for RICHARD RICKETT SMOTHERS: Richard Remick Smothers, yo yo man, also known as Dick Smothers of the famous Smothers Brothers duo, comedian, actor, singer. iii. CHARON SMOTHERS.

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Ed Oxford, thanks for the comeback. HAng in there. Jan & Joe. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Oxford <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [SMOTHERS] Smothers > Yep! I'm still here being thankful that my birth certificate has not expired!! I'm sorry, but I do not have definitive information on Jacob, John, Elisha and William Smothers. > > Ed >

Yep! I'm still here being thankful that my birth certificate has not expired!! I'm sorry, but I do not have definitive information on Jacob, John, Elisha and William Smothers. Ed Jan & Joe Smothers wrote: > ED OXFORD are you still in here?? If so do you have any info about Jacob, John, Elisha & William Smothers. Elisha Smothers, b 1800 is our line, Jan & Joe Smothers. > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/

----- Original Message ----- From: "Melba Smothers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 10:46 PM Subject: Fw: Thomas Smothers > Could I get added to your rootsweb mail list, maybe I can find something out > there. I think the only thing that will help is census records. If I can > find a John Thomas Smothers in 1860 and 70 but not in 1880, it'll be a start > because the story is that he ran away from home at the age of 15. Do you > know a web site where I can access NC census records - not by county, > because I don't know what county to look in. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Noah E. Smothers <[email protected]> > To: Melba Smothers <[email protected]> > Date: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 8:06 PM > Subject: Re: Thomas Smothers > > > >Melba > >My Smothers line actually comes from Andrew Smothers born 1738 in Virginia. > >I also research various lines trying to connect them all. Thomas Randall > >Smothers is the line of the Smothers Brothers. He came from Rockingham > >County, North Carolina. If you are interested I can send you the > information > >I have on that line. I have a very good friend whose line also comes from > >North Carolina, from a James Smothers Sr. abt. 1760. There is many > >researchers that are trying to piece together the Smothers families. We > use > >a mail list on rootsweb to share information. > >Thanks > >Noah Smothers > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Melba Smothers" <[email protected]> > >To: "Noah E. Smothers" <[email protected]> > >Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 8:35 AM > >Subject: Re: Thomas Smothers > > > > > >> I have not come across this name, but have not gotten back very far on my > >> Smothers line. When and where would your Thomas Randall have lived? My > >> Smothers' line as follows: my father: Raymond Levoyd Smothers, > >> grandfather, Frank Leslie Smothers and ggrandfather John Thomas Smothers > >b. > >> 1856 in NC and settled in Dekalb County Alabama where subsequent > >generations > >> still live. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Noah E. Smothers <[email protected]> > >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >> Date: Friday, October 27, 2000 1:58 PM > >> Subject: Thomas Smothers > >> > >> > >> >I am researching the Smothers families. Would you have any information > on > >> >Thomas Randall Smothers? Willing to trade information. > >> >Thanks > >> >Noah Smothers > >> > > >> > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Buckert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 12:31 PM Subject: Web Site for Indiana & Illnois marriages to 1850 > Got address from another list > Indiana Marriages > http://www.statelib.lib.in.us/www/indiana/genealogy/mirr.html > > Illinois Marriages > http://www2.sos.state.il.us/cgi-bin/marriage > > > paula >

Hi, **This message is being sent to the SMOTHERS mailing list.** The email address that RootsWeb has for the SMOTHERS list admin [email protected] is bouncing, so RootsWeb is looking to make contact with the list admin. Will the list admin please contact Andrew Billinghurst ([email protected]) so that we know that you are still maintaining this list. List members there is nothing for you to worry about and nothing for you to do, it is probably just an email problem for the person looking after the day-to-day management of this list. Thanks! Andrew Billinghurst, RootsWeb Staff [email protected]

ED OXFORD are you still in here?? If so do you have any info about Jacob, John, Elisha & William Smothers. Elisha Smothers, b 1800 is our line, Jan & Joe Smothers.

Bernie, your question. Jan, This is a son of Elisha McEwing Smothers? Grandson of Elisha's? Bernie, my answer. Jan Bernie it goes like this: Elisha Smothers b. 1800. TN. Austin L. Smothers, b. 1827 TN. Son of Elisha Smothers. Elisha McEwing Smothers, b 1854. AR. Son of Austin L. Smothers. Greorge Washington Smothers, b -1881, unknow where, d. 1949, in AR. Son of Elisha McEwing Smothers. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [SMOTHERS] Familiar branch? > In a message dated 11/02/2000 6:02:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > << The G. W. Smothers that I have was born in > 1881, where I do not know. He died in1949 in Arkansas, is buried at Cotter > Cem, Baxter Co., AR. I have G. W. married to Cynthia Alice (last name > unknown to me) She was born 24 Jan, 1888, (place unknown to me) she died 22 > Nov 1934 Ar, and is buried at Cotter Cem. Baxter Co., AR. Later, Jan

Jan Then I think that you will be able to help this Jean, much more than myself with discovering her Smothers roots. I don't have any data on Elijah/Elisha's marriage to Mary Magness of Nancy Jane Neal/McNeal at all and it sounds to me like this Jean does descend from Elisha and Sarah in this instance. Wonder what makes her think that she's connected to John and Catherine Smothers? Did this line migrate to Baxter Co., too. If so, I didn't reallize that. What other children do you have to Elijah/Elisha and Mary Magness or his marriage to the Neal/McNeal woman? Thanks so much, Bernie

In a message dated 11/02/2000 6:02:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << The G. W. Smothers that I have was born in 1881, where I do not know. He died in1949 in Arkansas, is buried at Cotter Cem, Baxter Co., AR. I have G. W. married to Cynthia Alice (last name unknown to me) She was born 24 Jan, 1888, (place unknown to me) she died 22 Nov 1934 Ar, and is buried at Cotter Cem. Baxter Co., AR. Later, Jan >> Jan This is a son of Elijah McEwing Smothers? Grandson of Elisha's? Bernie

In a message dated 11/02/2000 6:02:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << What names did you find on your SS check, that you think might be a kin to George Washington Smothers? >> Jan The small bit of data that I found that was related to this girl's family was the information that I posted on Dorsey Smothers and Dock Smothers. Bernie

Bernie, If that picture of Elisha shows up PLEASE, keep Joe and I in mind. What names did you find on your SS check, that you think might be a kin to George Washington Smothers? The G. W. Smothers that I have was born in 1881, where I do not know. He died in1949 in Arkansas, is buried at Cotter Cem, Baxter Co., AR. I have G. W. married to Cynthia Alice (last name unknown to me) She was born 24 Jan, 1888, (place unknown to me) she died 22 Nov 1934 Ar, and is buried at Cotter Cem. Baxter Co., AR. Later, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 12:15 PM Subject: [SMOTHERS] Familiar branch? > Hi > > I was contacted recently by a young girl, trying to trace her Smothers roots. > She initially found me because of my Smothers connection to Mountain Home, > Baxter Co., in Arkansas. It seems that her descendant, George W. Smothers > died there of suicide. His widow moved the family to Chandler, Oklahoma and > that is about all that I can surmise from my exchanges with this young woman, > Jean. > > I checked Social Security records and came up with a little data on her great > uncles......but, that's about it. > > This branch should connect to Elisha M. (1800-1881).......just can't figure > out where. My guess is that the George W. Smothers shown in the below chart, > was probably born circa 1880? > > Any guesses, anyone? > > Descendants of George W. Smothers > > 1 George W. Smothers > .. +Feeby Ann ? > ......... 2 James Thomas Smothers > ............. +? Butler > .................... 3 Ethel Smothers b: 1947 > ........................ +? Baker > ......... 2 Creasie Smothers > ......... 2 Vera Smothers > ......... 2 Dock Smothers b: March 07, 1902 d: December 1984 in > Edmond, Oklahoma Co., Oklahoma > ......... 2 Dorsey Smothers b: September 17, 1904 d: March 1984 in > Agra, Lincoln Co., Oklahoma > ......... 2 Eunice Smothers > > > Also, in another note.......I have been in contact with a new Sinor > researcher and she THINKS that she MAY have a photograph of Elisha Smothers, > taken shortly before his death. I'll keep you updated on that. > > Bernie > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >

Bernie, Ryan is in Jefferson Co., OK. near the RED RIVER, my map shows Ryan is at the Junction of HWY's 81 and 32, on the Texas, Oklahoma border. Thank for the info. Jan ----- Original Message ----- > >> > I have this in my records for Karen's Austin L. Smothers........ > > > Austin L. Smothers b: September 16, 1827 in Carroll Co., Tennessee > d: January 01, 1915 in Ryan, Jefferson Co., Oklahoma > .. +Mary E. Elizabeth Henry b: August 15, 1832 in Carroll Co., > Tennessee m: March 01, 1850 in Carroll Co.,Tennessee d: July 15, 1892 in > Ryan, Jefferson Co., Oklahoma Burial: Ryan, Jefferson Co., Oklahoma > > Now, as far as what cemetery in Ryan......I don't know. I'm from Oklahoma, > but am not familiar with Ryan at all. Never heard of it....... > > Bernie > > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 >