I just got this message tonight. All who knew her knew she was a wondrous lady. I feel such a loss I can't express it. God be with her. She was a real mentor to me and my cousin! >From: "Dick Brown" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: <[email protected]> >To: "Nena R. Smothers" <[email protected]> >Subject: Anita Kirby >Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:41:35 -0600 > >Hi Nena, > Bad News!! Anita Kirby died on January 13, 2001 >from an aneurysm during Gall Bladder surgery. A woman >she had put me in contact regarding the DAR had heard >from Anita's daughter in Arizona. Too bad. > > Dick > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

I have found a John Smothers born 1804, Virginia, wife Susan, born 1795 Kentucky, children Phebe C. born 1833, living in Cooper County, Missouri. Listed on the 1850 census, as a farmer value $600, there is also a Presley B. Dingle that is 10 years, born Missouri living with them. Does any know anything about this John Smothers? Noah

Just wondering if my Smothers cousins are alive and well!!! Hope the New Year is going great! Where is everyone? (This will also serve as a test to make sure there is not a glitch with my computer) Karen in Calif.

McNEIL / NEAL in Ozark Co Posted by Lois Carmack <[email protected]> on Sat, 06 Jan 2001 Surname: McNeil, McNEAL, NEAL, DONALDSON, DONELSON, SMOTHERS, HENDERSON Seeking information on a Polly A. NEAL, age 18, in the 1860 census of Ozark Co MO, with dau Nancy J. age 2. They were in the house of ____ OWENS, a blacksmith and his family. Most of the children in the house were named SMITH. So, I'm thinking the mother was md to a SMITH before she md the OWENS. But, why is Polly A. NEAL and dau Nancy J. living in the household? Could Polly's maiden name have been SMITH? What happened to Polly's husband, ____ NEAL? The census was before the Civil War, so where is he, if there was a spouse? Maybe NEAL is her maiden name and she used it or maybe she changed her name to NEAL from what????? When Nancy Jane NEAL???? md Ambrose DONELSON /DONALDSON she used the surname McNEIL or McNEAL. They were md about 1878. I have the marriage cert, but currently lost. Also on her death certificate (lost), her dau Sarah listed Nancy's father as Daddy McNeil /McNeal and mother as Polly Ann __. Also listed her birthplace as Dugginsville, MO. When Nancy md Ambrose, she was over 18 and Ambrose was about 16...his mother had to sign for them to marry. Ambrose's father was James DONALDSON / DONELSON. His mother's name was Malissa, I think, not sure about that. Nancy and Ambrose DONALDSON /DONELSON had 2 children Dan and Effie. Effie md a HART then a FRIEND or vice-versa. I heard Dan moved to Arkansas, Kansas. Don't know what happened to Effie. Nancy md EMC aka Elisha M. SMOTHERS and lived in AR. I haven't found a marriage cert in MO or AR for them. They had 3/4 girls and a boy. All dead now. On one of the daughter's obituary the maiden name of her mother, Nancy J. was NEAL. I hope someone can help me out with this tangled web I have. A lot is guesswork and a process of elimination. I love a good jigsaw puzzle.....but I like for the pieces to fall into place after a while. I believe that Polly Ann NEAL / McNEIL / McNEAL md a man by the surname of HENDERSON and think they may have had a son, Jimmy HENDERSON. This is circumstantial not proven. Nancy had other sisters I think, and they could have been HENDERSONs too. Not too sure about that. Sure could use some help on this one. HEEELLLPPP !!!!! Lois in Stoddard Co MO

Surname: Smothers Smothers researchers, can you help me? Looking for more information about the following children of Elisha Smothers, (he was born, 1800, TN.) And his 1st wife, Sarah, they moved into the Buford, Baxter Co., in the mid 1850's. The following children are the ones that I would like more information about. Nancy A. Smothers b 1831 m John Taylor. Sarah Jane Smothers b 1833, m David Jorden or Johnson. Duratha Smothers b 1842 m James W. Taylor. Until next time, Jan

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The Wayne County, IL, web site just posted the 1862 Military Census. A lot of my SMOTHERS kin and their in-laws are listed. See: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwayne I was not previously aware of this special state census. I wonder if it is available for other Illinois counties? Bill Smothers Delaware

For those wishing to search the Smothers-L list archives go to: www://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Enter the name of the mail list you wish to search: SMOTHERS-L or any other surname, SMEATHERS-L, etc. The next page will list all the years available. The Smothers page has 4-5 years, all the letters that are shared over the mail lists are archived they are available for research when ever needed. Noah

Nena Here is the archived email on the Murder that you were asking about, all the Smothers-L mail list letters are archived on rootsweb.com. Noah CNIDR Isearch-cgi 1.20.06 (File: 25) ============================================================ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 15:46:54 CST From: "LaVelda Faull" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: [SMOTHERS] William Smuthers article Part 1 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed This article that I found on the murder of William Smuthers was in the following book: "Kentucky Skaggs Records" by Juanita Skaggs Luttrell. This story was written by Cyrus Edwards who also wrote a history of Barren Co., Kentucky. Perhaps some of you have already heard this story, but it is quite interesting. The story goes on to tell of the murders by Indians ca 1787. An exact date is not given, but it was after 1787. Mr. Edwards then continues to tell the story of what happened to the land afterwards, the lives of some of the participants, and the finding of William Smuthers papers in an old chest many years later by the Skeggs family. It's rather long, so I'll just start with a page or two and then stop till later on tonight as I am at work. p. 56 "THE MURDERS AT FRENCHMANS KNOB An account of the murder of two soldiers of the Revolution, GILBERT LeCLERC and WILLIAM SMUTHERS, in what is now Hart County, Ky. and the strange chain of circumstances resulting therefrom. "Written Feb. 1916 - part - Murder" "In the year 1782 the lands lying on the north side of Green River, at and near the "Big Buffalo Crossing" of same, in what was then Jefferson County, Virginia, were surveyed, and afterwards patented by the Commonwealth of Virginia, as follows: 2,500 acres binding on the river, including the site of the present town of Munfordville, to ROBERT VAUGHN, 31,000 (1) acres, lying westward of the Vaughn survey, to WILLIAM POLLARD. A corner to the Vaughn survey and to Pollards 31,000 acres. (1) the original field notes of this 31,000 acre tract, with references to Robert Vaughn 2,500 acres and William Pollard's 19,000 acres, with a rough map of same, are in the possession of Mr. Roy Cann, at Munfordville, Ky. This land came to William Pollards through "16 warrants #18129, #18121, #18123, #16110, #18120, #18127, #138125, #16109, #16120, #16115, #16123, #16116, #16112, #16112, #1813_, #18133 & #18135. Boundaries are given corresponding to other records. This tract is no doubt recorded at Frankfort, Ky. the paper is dated March 16, 1784, and is signed Phillip Phillips, Agt. Geor. May S. J.C. - the 31,000 acres tract is also described in Record Book A, page 150 at Hardin County Court House, Elizabethtown, KY, when William Pollard of Philadelphia, Penn. became bankrupt and the land was sold to JAMES STEEL on Sept. 10, 1791. This record sets forth that the land was acquired by "letters Patent" underhand of Patrick Henry, Governor of Virginia, and fully describes the land as given in the surveyors field notes of earlier date. Another record is the surveyors report, filed in a lawsuit the Pollard's Heirs in Hart Co., Court June 27, 1857, giving boundaries, and of the 19,000 acre tract the commissioner's report" we find the survey to be 19,896.57329+ acres". This last paper is also in possession of Mr. Cann. F. E. G. - "a walnut, a hickory, and a white oak (2) stand in the road which now leads from Munfordville into the Logsdon Valley, about a hundred yards or so westward of the old Mt. Olivet Church, and about 100 to 120 feet southwestward of the large gateway to the lands of the late J.T.S. Brown. The hickory has disappeared long ago, and only a little of the stump of the white oak was visible thirty years ago, and the walnut was standing and alive the last time I was along that road five or six years ago, and I presume it is yet standing. The tree is hollow, having only a thin outside shell, and as I now remember was not much over twenty inches in diameter. The small size of the tree, considering its known age, is accounted for by the fact that several other trees stood close around it for most of its life time, and the road as I now remember it ran on both sides of it, (3) The identify of this walnut tree as being one of the original corner trees is unquestioned, and has been attested to in depositions taken at different times by nearly all of the old time surveyors of Hart County and this section of country for over 120 years including Dudley Roundtree, R. S. Thompson, W. B. Thompson and james L. Hardy. I have known this tree for nearly 40 years, and I have seen the book in which the original field notes were written on the ground at the time, showing that the tree was marked on the 5th day of Sept 1782." "A year or two previous to this date a few settlers had built the cabins on Nolin, and Phillips Station and was built for their protection, on the north side of the creek just above Hodgenville. From this base bold settlers ventured out until the year 1787 a thin fringe of cabins extended along Bacon Creek, and the overflow from the Rolling Fork camp settlement had the Upper Green River and as far down as Nolin Camp. These first cabins were generally two, and sometimes three, close together, each man building on his own land, for protection, and then probably a mile or two of woods between this and the next settlement of the same sort. This was then the extreme frontier of civilization, fronting southward, between the Cumberland Mountains and the Mississippi River, but preparations were already made to extend the line to Green River, from the mouth of Lynn camp down the "Big Buffalo Crossing", the following Spring. The Country between Bacon Creek and the river was not considered safe from Indians. They still ranged as far north as the river, but none except friendly parties for purpose of trade had crossed the river, during the year 1787." "In Dec. of this year a small party of land hunters came down from the Lexington settlement to look out head right claims or to buy land already taken up. Most of them laid out claims and made improvements south of the river (the improvements generally consisted of 4 small log notched together to form a foundation of small cabins); but two of the party, having some money and thinking the location very promising and knowing the price asked for the land, concluding to purchased a part of the Vaughn survey above mentioned, and they buried some grapevine cutting and apple and peach seeds, which they had brought with them, on top of the bluff above the big spring and not farm from the house where John Hubbard now resides. They then returned to Lexington and bought 200 acres of land each from Robert Vaughn at one dollar and fifty cents per acre and took a title bond for same - each one paying half the purchase price in cash and giving notes for the balance due in one, two, and three years equal installments, without interest. One of these young men, GILBERT LECLERC, had served in the French Army under General Rochambeau in American during the Revolution. He was charmed with the new country and its opportunities and, after discharged in France, he returned to his native village and married his old sweetheart who had waited for him, and they started with high hopes and brave hearts to find a home in the new land of liberty. The other was WILLIAM SMUTHERS, a native of Maryland, who had served in the Maryland Line during the Revolution, and became acquainted with LERCLERC at the seige of Yorktown. They came west together and, on reaching Lexington, LECLERC left his wife in good hands until he returned and he and SMUTHERS joined the party of land hunters above mentioned." To be continued....... LaVelda ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ______________________________ - ----------------------------

Noah, Thank you so much!! do you know or remember if LaVelda finished the story, it says to be continued...? How do you access our Smothers list archives??? no clue, did not even know it.... >To be continued....... > >LaVelda >______________________________________________________ > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Someone back in Feb of 2000 wrote about "The Murders at Frenchmans Knob" involving a William Smuthers and Gilbert LeClerc....I just ran across the paper. I did not have a printer then and my friend printed it out for me, but its printed really strange and I can't read it right...not sure how to explain it...but I am wondering who did this. There is no name and I don't remember. I would be interested in getting a copy of this if its not too much trouble. I do see where it says it came from "Skaggs Records" by Juanita Skagg Luttrell and is a story written by Cyrus Edwards who also wrote history of Barren Ky. Do this sound familiar to anyone. This name William Smuthers is familiar to me as he is located in the 1820 census in Franklin county...this article says he was born in Maryland. I can read that much of it. And apparently this murder might have happened sometime between 1782-1787. I am real curious as one never knows but perhaps this William could be the father to our Bill Smithers. thanks, nena _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

This is a good way to put up a message ...thought some of you might be interested.... >Lisa Steger Patton >Genealogy's Most Wanted >Site Co-ordinator >http://www.citynet.net/mostwanted _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Noah, BOX is not a very common name, so I thouhgt that I would toss this at you. Martha A. Box, b TN ca 1832, m Samual Tremell, b ca 1832 MO. 1 known dt. Martha Jane Tremellb 1865 Pindall, Searcy Co., AR, d 1934 Harrison, Boone Co., AR (She married Geo Washington Battenfield Jr.) Happy New Year. Jan. ----- Original Message ----- From: Noah Smothers <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 9:37 PM Subject: [SMOTHERS] John Smothers > Does anyone have any information on John Smothers who married Prudence Box? I seem to have information on all of Andrew Smothers children except John and Prudence. I have had computer problems for the past couple of weeks, but should be back up and running now. > Noah > > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 >

Velda Sorry, I lost your email address when my computer went down. Thanks for the copies of the Bill Smothers story in your History Book, I appreciated that very much. I found the following on Thomas F. Smothers and Elizabeth, maybe it will help. Marshall JaNa Alexander COPELAND SMOTHERS James COPELAND (born 1817 TN). Wife Celia M. They had 4 sons: John B. m. Hannah Jane MORGAN 1860 Benton, KY, Nicholas, Ralph C m. Sarah A. SMOTHERS 1873, James H. m. Mary J. SMOTHERS 1878. They are listed on the census 1850 Graves co. KY. 1860-1900 in Marshall Co., KY. Thomas F. SMOTHERS & wife Elizabeth are listed in Marshall Co. as well. Would like info. on COPELAND & SMOTHERS. I can be reached at: [email protected] or JaNa Alexander P.O. box 962, Richland, WA. 99352.

Does anyone have any information on John Smothers who married Prudence Box? I seem to have information on all of Andrew Smothers children except John and Prudence. I have had computer problems for the past couple of weeks, but should be back up and running now. Noah

Meme: nice to hear from you...we have 2 feet of snow here in WA state..temp around 30 tonite..not bad though..we can weather it. Winter has set in, but days are getting longer. Neat sky tonite if you are outside...take care, best wishes~~Nena _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Good to hear from you arent these Computers great? Went to my Dr.in Nash today& he says my infection is gone so 1m "out of jail"I had Home Health Care coming every day just to clean & Bandage the wounds But thats all the only thing as long as they came I wasn`t allowed to go anywhere so I was getting "cabin fever" Yes Me Ma broke her leg Dec.21`st.shes back at the Nursing Home now & seems to be doing OK her mind is so bad though,EJ has had all the shopping Housework & caretaker for his mom & Me since Nov.20t`h Ive been able to do the cooking wash & fold clothes & little things. but he has been an angel!! Sounds like you are doing good have you had much snow we only had aboit an inch but nash & your mom & john got about 3 or 4 inches. Ours is gone now. Take care & keek in touch maby you can give us a call with your cadrs OK?? Love Me Me -----Original Message----- From: Nena Smothers <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 5:30 AM Subject: [SMOTHERS] FYI:Don't open an email, HAHAHA.... >I checked this out before putting it on here and waited for an answer...yes, >this is a VIRUS...in contrast to the earlier email that talked about the >Cellsaver.exe...that is a HOAX...it is not true. You can check that out by >going to http://urbanlegends.about.com/culture/urbanlegends >or email [email protected] [David Emery] >if you ever question some strange email or some forward you receive. > >>From: "Ed Bott \(About.com\)" <[email protected]> >>To: "nena cook" <[email protected]> >>Subject: RE: I keep getting a weird email >>Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 19:31:01 -0700 >> >>Yes, that's a virus called Hybris. Just delete it. >>More info at >http://antivirus.about.com/compute/antivirus/library/virusinfo/blhybris.htm > >>Ed Bott, Your Guide to Windows >>About - The Human Internet >>http://windows.about.com <http://windows.about.com> >>Sign up for my free weekly newsletter: >>http://windows.about.com/library/blnewsletter.htm >><http://windows.about.com/library/blnewsletter.htm> >>Forum: http://forums.about.com/ab-windows >><http://forums.about.com/ab-windows> >>> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: nena cook [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 6:51 PM >> > Subject: I keep getting a weird email >>I keep getting this email that in the From: says "HAHAHA" then in >>the Subject: says "Snow White & 7 Dwarfts..real story"....I wont open it, >>I've got it several times this month...is this a virus? thanks, nena > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > >

I checked this out before putting it on here and waited for an answer...yes, this is a VIRUS...in contrast to the earlier email that talked about the Cellsaver.exe...that is a HOAX...it is not true. You can check that out by going to http://urbanlegends.about.com/culture/urbanlegends or email [email protected] [David Emery] if you ever question some strange email or some forward you receive. >From: "Ed Bott \(About.com\)" <[email protected]> >To: "nena cook" <[email protected]> >Subject: RE: I keep getting a weird email >Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 19:31:01 -0700 > >Yes, that's a virus called Hybris. Just delete it. >More info at http://antivirus.about.com/compute/antivirus/library/virusinfo/blhybris.htm >Ed Bott, Your Guide to Windows >About - The Human Internet >http://windows.about.com <http://windows.about.com> >Sign up for my free weekly newsletter: >http://windows.about.com/library/blnewsletter.htm ><http://windows.about.com/library/blnewsletter.htm> >Forum: http://forums.about.com/ab-windows ><http://forums.about.com/ab-windows> >> >-----Original Message----- >From: nena cook [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 6:51 PM > > Subject: I keep getting a weird email >I keep getting this email that in the From: says "HAHAHA" then in >the Subject: says "Snow White & 7 Dwarfts..real story"....I wont open it, >I've got it several times this month...is this a virus? thanks, nena _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

HI FOLKS! JUST THOUGHT THIS LINK APPROPRIATE...AFTER THE ELECTIONS AND ALL...and any of you that just are disagreeable with the word god...dont fret...whatever higher power you look too, it doesnot matter...or offend me, just think we need to all gather in that circle and HEAL THIS LAND...best of New Years eve to all and a blessed New Years and new beginnings! Just please wait for the Capitol bldg to download and music to begin..all of you in Kansas...wish I could have been there...if I'd lived in Kansas I'd been there! for sure!! :o) Hope you have speakers and Real Player [sound card] or can't hear the music and thats what will give you goosebumps...does me, and I've listened to it abt 3 times tonite...enjoy...please...cuz Nena http://www.roxiradio.com/healthisland _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Nena, I thank you, will look over the information, Happy New Year. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: Nena Smothers <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 3:00 PM Subject: [SMOTHERS] Janet: Elisha & Sarah & 10 children