Interesting! So do we have Nichols related to Smothers somewhere?? His Nichols appear to be of Melugeon desc...hmmmm Perkins is related to Noah's line.... ..also May [which was Cherokee] married into our Smothers in Tx, always helps to have more than 1 pr of eyes and mind looking at this, thanks very much, Nena From: "Jan & Joe Smothers" <joejan@viclink.com> Note the mention of NICHOLS below, LY JS From: drtjohnson@cp-tel.net (Tommy Johnson) I am of Melungeon extraction and am in their DNA pool. In laymans language, melungeon is people of portuguese and spanish extraction mixed with east coast Indian mainly Cherokee, Lumbee, etc. My Melungeon names are: Johnson, Nichols, French, Williams, May, Riley and Perkins. Many people of melungeon extratction move to Louisiana and East Texas--1798-1880. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

I should have also added who JOHN SNYDER married. He married EMILY GRASS b 1852 ILL This is the John SNYDER, brother to Susan Snyder, marr Alfred H Grass. Emily Grass is the dau of Alfred H Grass jr and Belinda Seeds. Cuz, its in the GRASS line... I hope this does not confuse you, but here goes.. Clarissa Grass-dau/o of Daniel/Jane b Dec 24 1827 Indiana m Wm Chauncy Nov 26 1850 [he b Feb 2 1826 IL] His parents were Isaac Chauncy and Cynthia Morehouse. Cynthia Morehouse had a brother, David W Morehouse. David marr Angeline SNYDER. Angeline Snyder was the dau of John Snyder. John Snyder was the brother to Susan Snyder that married Alfred H Grass. Angeline Snyder's MOTHER was a Clarissa Spencer. If this is the same one who in 1829 marr John SMOTHERS, this is very interesting as I have NO idea who this John Smothers is. ANYONE HAVE A CLUE HERE WHO THIS JOHN SMOTHERS IS?? Clarissa GRASS lived with David and Angeline acc/to 1850 census. Clarissa SPENCER's mother was a Betsy [Elizabeth] BERRY and she married Thomas SPENCER c1794. Elizabeth BERRY had brothers Enoch who marr Christine Dick 1804; sister Mary Ann 'polly' Berry [widow] m her cousin Berry Cantwell 1802 Elizabeth's brother, Wm Berry, is said to have been friends with Daniel GRASS and in 1805 made scouting trip to the Indiana Territory on behalf of Wm HYNES, a wealthy land speculator. This action probably influenced Wm Berry to move to the Indiana Territory later. NOW THE OTHER QUESTION IS...WHAT BERRY'S ARE THESE??? Wm, Enoch, Elizabeth also had a brother name John Berry. I am not sure if its our John Berry that marr Betsy Smeathers or not. I am not sure who the parents of these kids are. ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbie Langton December 01, 2002 8:12 AM Didn't know we had any Spencers in our line.Debbie -------Original Message------- Subject: Clarissa Spencer/John Smothers Marriage Index: KY, NC, TN, VA, WV, 1728-1850 Smothers, James Spouse : Spencer, Clarissa Marriage date : Jan 15, 1829 _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

Note the mention of NICHOLS below, LY JS > > From: drtjohnson@cp-tel.net (Tommy Johnson) > To: "Nena \(DNA\) Smothers" <smothersnena@hotmail.com> > Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 21:30:23 -0600 > > nena,received your email and have double checked all my census and family > group sheet records--no Smothers. > After I was tested, I asked Mr. Greenspan to put my data in laymans language > and this is what he wrote. I come from a group of people who settled > Western Europe and the British Isles shortly after the last ice age. I > belong to a group of people who have lived in Belgium over 1,000 years and > my people emigrated from Spain to England to Scotland. No semetic > background. You asked me where I live: Natchitoches, Louisiana. I am a > personal friend with Dr. N. Brent Kennedy formerly of Clinch Valley College > in Wise, Virginia , in fact, I have spoken to the Melungeon National > Conference on two occasions. I am of Melungeon extraction and am in their > DNA pool. In laymans language, melungeon is people of portuguese and > spanich extraction mixed with east coast Indian mainly Cherokee, Lumbee, > etc. My Melungeon names are: Johnson, Nichols, French, Williams, May, > Riley and Perkins. Many people of melungeon extratction move to Louisiana > and East Texas--1798-1880. > By the way, my Elizabeth White married John Holloway who was born in VA. > Will communicate later. Have a Merry Christmas. > tommy drtjohnson@cp-tel.net

HI LIST>>>>HEELLLOOOOOOO..anywho out thar??? jump rite in here and make some comments...I feellll all alone...boo hoo....just trying to share this data and to also keep figuring it out, waiting for the other Smothers results. thanks for sharing, Nena From: drtjohnson@cp-tel.net (Tommy Johnson) To: "Nena \(DNA\) Smothers" <smothersnena@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 21:30:23 -0600 nena,received your email and have double checked all my census and family group sheet records--no Smothers. After I was tested, I asked Mr. Greenspan to put my data in laymans language and this is what he wrote. I come from a group of people who settled Western Europe and the British Isles shortly after the last ice age. I belong to a group of people who have lived in Belgium over 1,000 years and my people emigrated from Spain to England to Scotland. No semetic background. You asked me where I live: Natchitoches, Louisiana. I am a personal friend with Dr. N. Brent Kennedy formerly of Clinch Valley College in Wise, Virginia , in fact, I have spoken to the Melungeon National Conference on two occasions. I am of Melungeon extraction and am in their DNA pool. In laymans language, melungeon is people of portuguese and spanich extraction mixed with east coast Indian mainly Cherokee, Lumbee, etc. My Melungeon names are: Johnson, Nichols, French, Williams, May, Riley and Perkins. Many people of melungeon extratction move to Louisiana and East Texas--1798-1880. By the way, my Elizabeth White married John Holloway who was born in VA. Will communicate later. Have a Merry Christmas. tommy drtjohnson@cp-tel.net _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

well, it sure seems apparent and consistent that these matches are either due to as mentioned, some non paternal event or waaaay back when there were NO surnames! I never really focused on that before...gee, wonder how long ago there were NO surnames...Nena From: DNACousins@aol.com To: smothersnena@hotmail.com Subject: Re: A DNA question... Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 08:00:49 EST MRCA=Most Recent Common Ancestor. If the two people taking the test are brothers, their MRCA is their father (one generation removed). If they are first cousins, the MRCA is their grandfather (two generations removed). If they are second cousins, the MRCA is their great-grandfather (three generations removed), and so forth. >>>A male Smothers that is one of our 3 Smothers doing the DNA...was matched >>>to 4 others...BUT ALL OF THESE 4 HAVE DIFFERENT SURNAMES!! One of these 4 matches, matched 12/12 markers and they are NOT Smothers. I dont understand at all.<<< There are a number of reasons this can happen. Perhaps there has been a non-paternity event somewhere. Perhaps the MRCA lived a long time ago, before surnames came into existence. If you have a common haplotype (the complete set of results on whatever markers are tested), you are more likely to find "random" matches with other surnames. A 25 marker test will usually start to show some distinctions between the different surnames. You can see if your haplotype is one of the common ones at Dennis Garvey's web site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dgarvey/DNA/RelGenMarkers.htm Good luck on your project!>Ann _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

hmmm...VERY interesting, eh?..hes the one who matched 12/12 with Cuz Susan's dad, Florian Smothers...but I still cant figure this out, although I do realize what he is saying, sure would be a BIG jump to change yr name fr Dyas to Smothers. Nena From: "keithdyas dyas" <keithdyas@msn.com> To: "Nena Smothers" <smothersnena@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Y-Chromosome Matching Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 06:46:27 -0700 Hello Nena, There are only a couple of explanations on how two people can have match of 12 out of 12 markers and not have the same surname. The first as has happened with my cousin Jim Dyas and I, is the mutation of the genes over many generations as I mentioned in my previous message and the possibility that a person was adopted or changed their surname sometime in the past.>Keith Dyas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nena Smothers" <smothersnena@hotmail.com> To: <keithdyas@msn.com> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:39 PM Subject: Re: Y-Chromosome Matching Hi Keith...thanks so much for writing back. You sound very knowledgeable abt all this, maybe you can help me a bit in trying to figure this match out because I am at a loss to figure it out. How can you two match on 12 markers..and you have no Smothers and yet match only 11/12 with a COUSIN? _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

From: OrinWells <orinwells@wells.org> To: "Nena Smothers" <smothersnena@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Richard/George Wells family Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 23:26:08 -0800 At 10:48 PM 11/29/2002 -0800, Nena Smothers wrote: >Now, I do have a question for you, dont think I asked you this before, but >I could have...abt a George Wells?? ...ARE THESE YOUR WELLS???? [This is just some very rought draft notes on Richard Smither of DE] These are not "my" Wells, but I am aware of the family. This is one early Wells family where we were unable to find any male descendants. The reason being that all male lines are believed to have "daughtered out" in the third generation. George's sons George and Benjamin are not believed to have had sons and the same for the descendants of George's siblings. Thanks for sending the material. Some of it I had not seen before.>Orin R. Wells Wells Family Research Association P. O. Box 5427>Kent, Washington 98064-5427 <OrinWells@wells.org> http://www.rootsweb.com/~wellsfam/wfrahome.html _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Ok-here is a really good opinion of cuz Susan's dad's matches. He is quite an authority on the DNA mail list...and YES, I have asked him abt George WELLS relation [ie:Richard Smither, DE] Nena From: OrinWells <orinwells@wells.org> To: "Nena Smothers" <smothersnena@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: need help figuring this DNA out.... Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 21:48:37 -0800 At 07:16 PM 11/29/2002 -0800, Nena Smothers wrote: >Orin...maybe you can help me or pass this around to others that might help >me to somehow understand this better. I sure feel lost. My advice is to remember why your group is taking these tests. You are trying to find relatives who can be proven to be genetically and genealogically related to your family. Anything else that pops up is probably only coincidence. For example there is not a lot of chance that your family, Smither/Smithers/Smothers/ etc., is related to families that come from the Ukraine, Spain or Ireland in recent times. If you do, it is likely that the relationship was to some ancestors who took on different surnames 800+ years ago. While this may form an interesting curiosity, it is nearly worthless from a genealogical standpoint. I really don't know what the odds are of 5 random samples from the population would match let alone they would turn up in a set of 9,000. This is one of the problems with the FamilyTreeDNA and Ancestry.com testing. There is often no focus for the testing. That is no plan. Everyone entering the testing, I am certain, has hopes to find cousins and further their mutual genealogy research. But casting into the sea to see if you can find some matching DNA may not be a very good way of getting there. The 12 marker test is not something I have much confidence in to start with which is why we held out for a larger sampling. Using Relative Genetics we have 26 markers whereas the FamilyTreeDNA expanded set is 25. I doubt there is much significance between 26 and 25 frankly, it is more marketing ploy. Just keep your focus on testing the Smothers etc. individuals you can get to cooperate. But keep in mind that even if they match on the 12 does not mean if you expanded to 25 markers the match would hold. It certainly does not with our study. We have many cases where they match perfectly on 12 markers but turn out to have 7 or more mis-matches on 26 markers. In some cases you can use the 12 marker test to help eliminate possible matches. But I question that you can cement a relationship based on the 12 markers. Out of nearly 9,000 samples your cousin's father matched 4 others. That is 5 out of 9,000. The question is whether this means anything or not. The surnames don't match at all so even if you agree that you are cousins there is not much chance you are going to find a common ancestor documented anywhere unless one of you stumbles on an adoption or illicit affair up one of the trees. The focus is strictly on the father-son connections in the Y chromosone testing, up the length of the tree. No exceptions. No female contributions. If there were no name change for any reason, all the related subjects should carry the same surname. If you find some who do not, you have to ask the question of whether they were a product of a "non-paternal" event. But you will have considerable difficulty in most cases finding the answer. >Orin Wells _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Well, I am more confused than ever now!! How in the whole wide world, does someone match 12/12 that are two DIFFERENT surnames? I am totally stumped!!..anyone ever heard of Dyas...for some reason there is a slight ring to this name for me, but cant think right now..Nena From: "keithdyas dyas" <keithdyas@msn.com> To: "Nena Smothers" <smothersnena@hotmail.com> Subject: Y-Chromosome Matching Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 18:52:28 -0700 Hello Nena, I am the one that matched 12 out of 12 with Florian Smothers on the Y-chromosome testing. Our Dyas line originates in England and perhaps back to Spain many generations beyond. One of the Dyases from whom I descend (based on testing) emigrated to Ireland in 1690 and thus the family essentially became Irish. I know of no Smothers in our genealogy and suspect that any familial relationship may have originated before people had surnames. There can be mutations over the years. For example, I match only 11 out of 12 with a Dyas surnamed second cousin.>Keith Dyas _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Noah-that is wonderful news, am so glad you have progressed. Our ancestor's were more mobile sometimes I think than we give credit for. We probably should look in other areas like you have done to find them, even if we dont think they might have been there. Nena _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Thanksgiving Day, 2002, after much research and countless hours of looking, today I found my father's family in the 1930 census. Ancestry.com has indexed much of the 1930 census, but not Mississippi, I had thought that my father's family was back in Missouri between 1920-1939, but had been unable to find them. It turns out that they were still in Mississippi, in Yazoo County, and today thanks to Ancestry, by looking at each image and page of the census I was able to locate them. My Grandfather died in Missouri in 1939, so now I know that between 1930 and 1939 they moved from Mississippi to Missouri. My brother-in-law had purchased the census provided by Ancestry and as we were at his house for Thanksgiving, I took some time to look through the Mississippi census information, and there they were. Now my big question remains, "Where in Mississippi are my Great-grandparents buried"? My Aunt says that they are both buried in Mississippi but she cannot remember where. I just wanted to Thank all the researchers who have helped and provided encouragement, and to ask God to Bless each and everyone on this the day of Thanksgiving. Thank you and God Bless Noah

This Thomas B. Smothers listed in the 1880 census in Rockingham, North Carolina, father and mother born Virginia. This maybe the link to the Smothers Brothers family, and the Virginia Smothers. Would appreciate any help. Thanks Noah Household Record 1880 United States Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Thomas B. SMOTHERS Self W Male W 87 ROCK NC Farmer VA VA Nathaniel SMOTHERS Son M Male W 40 ROCK NC Farmer VA VA Mary JONES Other Female W 26 ROCK NC Keeping House ROCK NC ROCK NC James BOYD Other S Male B 14 ROCK NC Farm Laborer ROCK NC ROCK NC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Source Information: Census Place Wentworth, Rockingham, North Carolina Family History Library Film 1254980 NA Film Number T9-0980 Page Number 175A ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- © 1999-2002 by Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. English approval: 3/1999 Use of this site constitutes your acceptance of these Conditions of Use (last updated: 3/22/1999). Privacy Policy (last updated: 10/12/2001). 30 http://www.familysearch.org v.2.5.0

Can anyone help with this Robert Smothers, born Tennessee, father and mother born Virginia? Thanks Noah Household Record 1880 United States Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Robert SMOTHERS Self M Male W 41 TN Miner, Boarder VA VA Mary S. SMOTHERS Wife M Female W 36 TN Housekeeper TN TN James W. SMOTHERS Son S Male W 18 TN Miner TN TN John W. SMOTHERS Son S Male W 12 KY Miner TN TN Mary M. SMOTHERS Dau S Female W 11 KY Housekeeper TN TN Sarah E. SMOTHERS Dau S Female W 7 KY TN TN Martha SMOTHERS Dau S Female W 6 KY TN TN Henry T. SMOTHERS Son S Male W 4 KY TN TN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Source Information: Census Place Independence, Laurel, Kentucky Family History Library Film 1254427 NA Film Number T9-0427 Page Number 305B ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- © 1999-2002 by Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. English approval: 3/1999 Use of this site constitutes your acceptance of these Conditions of Use (last updated: 3/22/1999). Privacy Policy (last updated: 10/12/2001). 27 http://www.familysearch.org v.2.5.0

I have attempted to put together some information on the Smothers family in Massachusetts, not knowing whom may be the father of any of them I elected to put together all the information under Massachusetts Smothers, hoping that we may be able to shed some more light on this family. Noah Descendants of Massachusetts Smothers Generation No. 1 1. MASSACHUSETTS1 SMOTHERS Children of MASSACHUSETTS SMOTHERS are: i. PETER2 SMOTHERS, b. Bet. 1749 - 1760; d. Bef. October 05, 1824, Danvers, Essex County, Massachusetts; m. HANNAH MAGFORD, November 04, 1779, Salem, Essex County, Massachusetts. ii. JOHN SMOTHERS, b. Bet. 1750 - 1760. iii. THOMAS SMOTHERS, b. Bet. 1750 - 1760; d. Bef. February 16, 1830, Salem, Essex County, Massachusetts; m. PEGGY BOYD, April 25, 1797, Salem, Essex County, Massachusetts. iv. TOBIAS SMOTHERS, b. Bet. 1750 - 1760; m. (1) ELIZABETH THORN, April 17, 1782, Salem, Essex County, Massachusetts; m. (2) HANNAH PEAS, November 28, 1792, Saem, Essex County, Massachusetts. v. MICHAEL SMOTHERS, b. Bet. 1750 - 1765, Danvers, Essex County, Massachusetts. 2. vi. EDWARD SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1754, Salem, Essex, Mass.; d. Bef. October 05, 1819, Salem, Essex County, Massachusetts. 3. vii. JOHN SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1755, Virginia; d. North Carolina ?. viii. SARAH SMOTHERS, b. Bef. 1775; d. Bef. January 02, 1816, Danvers, Essex County, Massachusetts. ix. JOHN SMETHURST, b. Bef. 1800. x. ALICE SMETHURST, b. Bef. 1800. Generation No. 2 2. EDWARD2 SMOTHERS (MASSACHUSETTS1) was born Abt. 1754 in Salem, Essex, Mass., and died Bef. October 05, 1819 in Salem, Essex County, Massachusetts. He married SARAH VERY Abt. 1779 in Salem, Essex County, Massachusetts, daughter of ISAAC VERY and ELIZABETH GILES. She was born Abt. 1749 in Salem, Essex, Mass.. Child of EDWARD SMOTHERS and SARAH VERY is: 4. i. JONATHAN3 SMOTHERS, b. August 23, 1781, Massachusetts; d. January 23, 1840, New Hampshire. 3. JOHN2 SMOTHERS (MASSACHUSETTS1) was born Abt. 1755 in Virginia, and died in North Carolina ?. Children of JOHN SMOTHERS are: 5. i. CATHERINE3 SMOTHERS, b. Abt. 1794. ii. REBECCA SMOTHERS, m. ALLEN MURPHY, March 06, 1817, Pittsylvania, Virgina. iii. UNKOWN SMOTHERS. iv. UNKOWN SMOTHERS. Generation No. 3 4. JONATHAN3 SMOTHERS (EDWARD2, MASSACHUSETTS1) was born August 23, 1781 in Massachusetts, and died January 23, 1840 in New Hampshire. He married ELIZABETH STONE December 05, 1804 in Massachusetts, daughter of EDMUND STONE and ABIAH MARSH. She was born November 30, 1787 in Massachusetts, and died November 20, 1862 in New Hampshire. Children of JONATHAN SMOTHERS and ELIZABETH STONE are: 6. i. EDWARD4 SMOTHERS, b. September 07, 1805, Massachusetts; d. 1831. ii. SALLY SMOTHERS, b. May 18, 1807, Massachusetts; d. 1809, Massachusetts. 7. iii. JONATHAN SMOTHERS, b. June 28, 1809, Massachusetts. 8. iv. SARAH SMOTHERS, b. January 03, 1812, Massachusetts. 9. v. ELIZABETH B. SMOTHERS, b. January 30, 1813, Massachusetts. 10. vi. PAMELIA S. SMOTHERS, b. July 03, 1816, Massachusetts. vii. GEORGE W. SMOTHERS, b. February 22, 1819, Massachusetts. 5. CATHERINE3 SMOTHERS (JOHN2, MASSACHUSETTS1) was born Abt. 1794. She married GEORGE JONES February 16, 1811 in Pittsylvania, Virgina. Child of CATHERINE SMOTHERS and GEORGE JONES is: i. ANN4 JONES, m. THOMAS WATSON. Generation No. 4 6. EDWARD4 SMOTHERS (JONATHAN3, EDWARD2, MASSACHUSETTS1) was born September 07, 1805 in Massachusetts, and died 1831. He married ABIGAIL PLUMMER September 10, 1827 in Massachusetts. She was born 1810 in Massachusetts, and died June 17, 1850 in Massachusetts. Children of EDWARD SMOTHERS and ABIGAIL PLUMMER are: 11. i. EDWARD E.5 SMOTHERS, b. December 25, 1829, Massachusetts. ii. FRANCIS A. SMOTHERS, b. March 12, 1829. iii. OLWIN B. SMOTHERS, b. March 05, 1831, Massachusetts; m. SELONA F. KELLOGG, September 15, 1858, Massachusetts; b. 1840, Massachusetts. 7. JONATHAN4 SMOTHERS (JONATHAN3, EDWARD2, MASSACHUSETTS1) was born June 28, 1809 in Massachusetts. He married (1) HANNAH DOUGLAS January 10, 1830 in Massachusetts. She was born 1810 in Massachusetts, and died November 29, 1831 in Massachusetts. He married (2) ALZINA BURGESS November 22, 1840 in Chelsea, Orange, Vermont, daughter of THEOPHILUS BURGESS and LYDIA BLODGETT. She was born June 17, 1816 in Vermont. Child of JONATHAN SMOTHERS and HANNAH DOUGLAS is: i. GEORGE5 SMOTHERS, b. 1831, Massachusetts; d. 1831, Massachusetts. 8. SARAH4 SMOTHERS (JONATHAN3, EDWARD2, MASSACHUSETTS1) was born January 03, 1812 in Massachusetts. She married JOSEPH NEWELL July 11, 1839 in Massachusetts. He was born 1812 in Massachusetts, and died May 02, 1876 in Massachusetts. Children of SARAH SMOTHERS and JOSEPH NEWELL are: i. CHARLES A.5 NEWELL, b. 1841, Massachusetts; d. 1854, Massachusetts. ii. ELLEN M. NEWELL, b. 1846, Massachusetts; d. 1847, Massachusetts. 12. iii. FRANCIS A. NEWELL, b. June 27, 1847, Massachusetts. iv. HENRY D. NEWELL, b. 1851, Massachusetts; d. 1854, Massachusetts. 9. ELIZABETH B.4 SMOTHERS (JONATHAN3, EDWARD2, MASSACHUSETTS1) was born January 30, 1813 in Massachusetts. She married JONATHAN KENNEY 1835 in Massachusetts. He was born 1810 in Massachusetts. Child of ELIZABETH SMOTHERS and JONATHAN KENNEY is: i. LAURA E.5 KENNEY, b. July 30, 1836; m. (1) CHARLES B. PORTER, 1860, Massachusetts; b. 1830, Massachusetts; m. (2) JAMES M. ARNOLD, 1870, Massachusetts; b. 1835, Illinois. 10. PAMELIA S.4 SMOTHERS (JONATHAN3, EDWARD2, MASSACHUSETTS1) was born July 03, 1816 in Massachusetts. She married WILLIAM A. BERRY May 08, 1835 in Massachusetts. He was born 1810 in Massachusetts. Children of PAMELIA SMOTHERS and WILLIAM BERRY are: i. SARAH E.5 BERRY, b. July 10, 1836, Massachusetts; d. June 08, 1879, Massachusetts; m. ROSCOE B. THOMAS, December 21, 1868, Massachusetts; b. 1835, Massachusetts. ii. WILLIAM J. BERRY, b. November 01, 1847, Massachusetts. Generation No. 5 11. EDWARD E.5 SMOTHERS (EDWARD4, JONATHAN3, EDWARD2, MASSACHUSETTS1) was born December 25, 1829 in Massachusetts. He married ELIZABETH DRISCOLL December 25, 1852 in Massachusetts. She was born 1830 in Massachusetts. Children of EDWARD SMOTHERS and ELIZABETH DRISCOLL are: i. FRANK E.6 SMOTHERS, b. September 02, 1853, Massachusetts. 13. ii. GEORGE O. SMOTHERS, b. October 01, 1856, Massachusetts. 14. iii. ABBIE E. SMOTHERS, b. August 29, 1863, Massachusetts. 15. iv. ARTHUR E. SMOTHERS, b. November 05, 1866, Massachusetts. 12. FRANCIS A.5 NEWELL (SARAH4 SMOTHERS, JONATHAN3, EDWARD2, MASSACHUSETTS1) was born June 27, 1847 in Massachusetts. He married IDA M. CARDWELL December 06, 1877 in Connecticut. She was born March 18, 1856 in Connecticut. Children of FRANCIS NEWELL and IDA CARDWELL are: i. LEWIS W.6 NEWELL, b. January 16, 1879, Massachusetts. ii. LAMA B. NEWELL, b. September 05, 1881, Massachusetts; d. October 16, 1881, Massachusetts. Generation No. 6 13. GEORGE O.6 SMOTHERS (EDWARD E.5, EDWARD4, JONATHAN3, EDWARD2, MASSACHUSETTS1) was born October 01, 1856 in Massachusetts. He married ANNIE O. PARSONS September 08, 1882 in Massachusetts. She was born 1860 in Massachusetts. Child of GEORGE SMOTHERS and ANNIE PARSONS is: i. GRACE O.7 SMOTHERS, b. August 30, 1884, Massachusetts. 14. ABBIE E.6 SMOTHERS (EDWARD E.5, EDWARD4, JONATHAN3, EDWARD2, MASSACHUSETTS1) was born August 29, 1863 in Massachusetts. She married GEORGE E. HIGGINS September 08, 1882 in Massachusetts. He was born 1860 in Massachusetts. Child of ABBIE SMOTHERS and GEORGE HIGGINS is: i. MARION E.7 HIGGINS, b. November 01, 1885, Massachusetts. 15. ARTHUR E.6 SMOTHERS (EDWARD E.5, EDWARD4, JONATHAN3, EDWARD2, MASSACHUSETTS1) was born November 05, 1866 in Massachusetts. He married CAROLINE A. ROWE 1885 in Massachusetts. She was born 1870 in Massachusetts. Children of ARTHUR SMOTHERS and CAROLINE ROWE are: i. ARTHUR A.7 SMOTHERS, b. January 15, 1886, Massachusetts. ii. EVERETT O. SMOTHERS, b. January 15, 1886, Massachusetts.

Thanks, Nena, for the Family Tree DNA information. Very informative. Tom

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The ANCESTRYbyDNA test analyzes your DNA to determine which of the major human populations your ancestors belonged to, and what percentage you have inherited of these groups. These four geographical areas and the corresponding major human population groups are: Native American, East Asian, European, and sub-Saharan African. This test, developed by DNAPrint Genomics, utilizes SNP's that are diagnostic of a person's continent of origin. SNP's are deep ancestral locations along the human genome, and have a different result when tested with different peoples. To order the ANCESTRYbyDNA test, click on this link: http://www.familytreedna.com/products.html#dnaprintorder Recruiting Participants: 5 Action Items Are you wondering why the XYZ surname project has over 50 participants, and you only have 6 participant so far? Do you look at your web site and correspondence, and wonder what is their secret to recruiting participants? The answer may be that they have a larger population of their surname from which to recruit participants. Your Surname Project may actually have a higher percentage of the surname participating than the project with over 50 participants. It is common knowledge that Smith is the most frequent surname in the US. The chart below shows the 10 most frequent surnames in the US in the 1990 census. For each surname, the percentage represents the percentage of persons in the US with this surname, and the Rank is the ranking of the surname with 1 being the most frequent. For example, in the chart below, 8 surnames are more frequent than Moore. Surname % Rank SMITH 1.006 1 JOHNSON 0.810 2 WILLIAMS 0.699 3 JONES 0.621 4 BROWN 0.621 5 DAVIS 0.480 6 MILLER 0.424 7 WILSON 0.339 8 MOORE 0.312 9 TAYLOR 0.311 10 Assume that a person started a Smith Surname project. There are over 2 million Smith's in the US, of which over 1 million would be males. This is quite a few people. If they signed up 50 people, they have only signed up a very very small percentage of the Smith surname. Compare this to the surname Mumma, which is .001 % of the population, and its Rank is 15,109. There is a much smaller pool of Mumma potential participants. If we look at the surname Norin, their number is so small in the US 1990 census, that it does not even get a result when the 1990 US census Surname Frequency is searched. You can find out what percentage of the US population holds your surname by going to the US Government census site at: http://www.census.gov/genealogy/www/freqnames.html The site also covers the methodology they used to come up with the percentages and rank for the surnames. The US population on April 1, 2000 was 281,421,906 people. If you would like a rough idea of the males with your surname in the US, first search the site above to get the percentage for your surname. Multiply that percentage times the population of the 2000 census. In our rough calculation, we will assume that 50% are males, so now divide by 2. This is an estimate of the number of males with your surname. To estimate the number of adult males, multiply by .7. The formula is: Percentage * 281,421,906 / 2 * .7 = adult males with surname You can also find out how common your surname is in the UK at the site: http://www.taliesin-arlein.net/names/search.php There are 269,353 surnames in the UK database, representing 54,412,638 people. This database is provided by the Office of National Statistics of the UK, and gives an actual count of the number of persons for each surname. These two databases used different methodologies to come up with their results. Rare surnames will not get a search result in the US census site, while they will in the UK site, even if there is only one person with the surname. Now that you have an idea of the size of your potential prospect pool, lets assume that only 1/3 are interested in genealogy, so you now divide by 3. The end result is a very rough approximation of the number of potential participants available. If you are only using the Internet to find your participants, cut this number in half for the US. Other countries have a smaller percentage of persons on the Internet than the US. As your first step, you have probably posted your project to as many sites and mailing lists that are applicable and allow such postings. You have probably also put up a web site, even if it is only one page. Most likely you have contacted all those persons whom you had contact with in the past regarding genealogy. Here are some suggestions to consider to make more people aware of your project: 1. Consult the Directory of Family Associations. If there is a Family Association for your surname, contact them and offer to write an article for their publication about your project. 2. Register your web site with familysearch.org. Everyone searching on your surname at Familysearch.org will find your web site. You must first register yourself with familysearch.org to be able to submit your website for consideration. 3. Visit your local Family History Center, and offer to show the Genealogy by Genetics video to the staff and patrons. This might not find you any participants, but if every Group Administrator takes an hour to do this, then all the Surname Projects might find participants. 4. Review your web site. It needs to be easy to understand for those not familiar with DNA testing, and clearly present the benefits to the participant. What will they gain from participating? How will it help them in their research? What might the results tell them? 5. Find out if there are any genealogy clubs or organizations in your area, and volunteer to show the video, and answer questions. DNA testing for genealogy is a new field, and we are all pioneers. Most likely you have learned a lot about the field as a result of your testing. Those of us who have learned about DNA testing and how to interpret the results are aware of the benefits and how the testing can assist us with our genealogy research. The majority of those interested in Family History research most likely aren't aware of Genetic Genealogy. If you volunteer an hour to help your fellow genealogists understand this new tool, and help more people become knowledgeable, all of us will benefit as we seek participants for our testing. Understanding your Results: Ethnic Origin Whether you are just starting a Surname Project, or ordered a test for yourself to learn about DNA testing for genealogy, everyone experiences the situation of receiving the first test result, and what now? You have one test result, and what do you do with a string of 12 or 25 numbers? Can they tell you anything? In the situation of the one or first test result, most likely you will not find others to whom you are related. The odds of a random match to some one to whom you are related when you are the first of your surname to test is slim to none. Instead, you might find some clues to your ethnic origin. To find clues about your ethnic origin, Log into FamilyTreeDna.com, and at your Personal Page click on Recent Ethnic Origins to search this data base. The results show others whom you match, or who are a near match, and their ancestor's ethnic origin. The information on their ethnic origin is provided by each testee. The information provided for ethnic origin is only as accurate as the knowledge held by the testee regarding their ancestors. Testees are instructed to answer unknown for ethnic origin when their ancestor's origin is not known, or not certain. Sometimes the origin the testees provided is incorrect. Incorrect origins provided by testees may lead to search results that do not seem logical. For example: Assume your ancestors are from England, but your search results show the ethnic origin of your matches as England, France, AND one match shows an origin of Native American. Does that mean that your ancestor’s relatives may have lived in England and France? Yes. Does it mean that your ancestor was also a Native American? No. It means that a settler in America had a child with a Native American woman, the child was brought up as a Native American, and that, over time, the family has "forgotten" the European ancestor, and believes their ancestry to be Native American. Over the span of generations people tend to move, as do borders, so nationality or ethnicticity becomes subjective. For example, testees may enter Germany for ethnic origin, because the land of their ancestors is in Germany today, but the land had been held by Denmark for many centuries. Your search should return at least one match, namely yourself. If your results show 3 matches from Ireland and 1 from Scotland, and you have reported to us that your ancestors came from Scotland, then you are the Scotland result. The other 3 matches are either from the Family Tree DNA database or from the databases we have been supplied by the University of Arizona. To see how your ethnic origin is recorded in our database, click on the link titled Update Contact Information. You can also update your paternal and maternal ethnic origin on this Update Contact Information page. Exact matches show people who are the closest to you genetically. The Ethnic origin shows where they have been reported to have lived. Since many persons migrated since the beginning of time, you will typically see matches in more than one country. For information purposes, the Recent Ethnic Origin search also displays results for those who are not an exact matches, but are 'near matches'. A near match is either one step or two steps from your result. An exact match is 12/12 or 25/25. A one step match is 11/12 or 24/25. A two step match is 10/12 or 23/25. The value of the near matches is to see where those who may be related migrated over time. Other databases available that you can search are: European: http://ystr.charite.de/index_gr.html US: http://www.ystr.org/usa/ In some cases you will not find any results. This is because only a very small percentage of the world population has been tested and are in the databases. The Ystr databases, plus the FamilyTreeDNA Recent Ethnic Origin database together hold about 21,000 test results. Every day more results are added, and it is only a matter of time before you will have some matches. Your test with Family Tree DNA includes access to our databases for matching. If you do not find any results in the two YSTR databases shown above, try entering your result, and then eliminating a marker, and do this until you have a smaller set of markers that results in some matches. This might provide some clues regarding where your markers have occurred geographically. The value of DNA testing comes from comparing your results to others. If you have started a Surname Project, you will most likely have results from others soon. If you only tested yourself, you may want to consider either using DNA testing to solve one of your Family History questions, or starting a Surname Project. Haplotypes: Convergence A Haplotype is the 12 Marker result from testing the Y Chromosome. Some Haplotypes are common, with a high frequency of occurrence and some Haplotypes are rare, with a low frequency of occurrence. Many people have common Haplotypes, which means that they would expect to find matches to those who do not have their surname. This occurs because we were all at one point related. As the different branches of the Adam + Eve tree evolved throughout time, mutations occurred, forming different Haplotypes. Thousands of years later, you have many different Haplotypes. Due to these mutations, you could have two branches that mutate to an identical Haplotype. This is called convergence. If your Haplotype matches an individual with a different surname, and your genealogy research shows no evidence of an extra-marital event or adoption, your match may be the result of Convergence. The example below shows convergence between the ABC surname and the XYZ surname, using just 3 markers to keep the example simple. Notice how the mutations over time bring two different Family Lines to the point that they match. Time ABC XYZ 1000 A.D. 12 24 15 14 25 13 1200 13 24 15 14 25 13 1400 13 24 15 14 25 14 1600 13 24 15 14 24 14 1800 13 24 15 13 24 14 2000 13 24 14 13 24 14 Convergence explains why a haplotype will match others with a different surname. DNA testing for genealogy is not a substitute for genealogy research, but is instead a companion. Results that match must be considered in light of the genealogy research. If you match someone with a different surname, most likely there wasn't an adoption or extra marital event, and your match may be the result of convergence. Case Studies in Genetic Genealogy In each issue of the Newsletter, we look at what Genetic Genealogy will do for your Family History research. This article is a continuation of the topic, with situations, called "Case Studies", followed by a recommendation. The objective of the case studies is to present different situations you may encounter in your family history research, and how DNA testing can be applied. Case Study I have participated in a Surname Project, and had quite surprising results. All the other Lines of my surname are related, except my Line. We have all traced our ancestors to England. Not only is my line not related, but also my ethnic origin is Eastern European. What do I do now? Recommendation I am sure you were quite surprised, and perhaps disappointed. The first step is to validate the result for your Line or family tree. Since only one person was tested for your Line, we recommend testing additional males from each branch on your tree, to see if they all match each other. If they end up matching, your result is probably due to either an extra marital event, an adoption, or a name or spelling change. In reviewing the surnames of Eastern Europe, your surname is pronounced as the surname in England, only the spelling is different. A review of your Family History shows that the research and documentation for the time period 1800-1850 is quite sparse. Many more records are available in England for this time period, including parish registers and wills. I would suggest that more family history research might shed some light on the situation. Managing a Genetic Genealogy Project: Participants with poor documentation Occasionally you might run across a willing participant for your Surname Project who has a poorly documented family tree, perhaps even built entirely out of the International Genealogical Index (IGI) by matching surnames. Your dilemma is that the prospective participant appears to be from a Line you haven't tested yet, but without better research you can't be sure. What comes first, the testing or the research? This is a complex issue. If you turn away the participant and suggest that they do more research, they may become discouraged, and never return. If the participant tests, and gets unexpected results, they may become an unhappy participant. One solution is to fill in the gaps of their research yourself. You may not have the time to take this step. A better solution may be to communicate the situation to the participant, and let them make the decision to test now with the possibility of unexpected results, and also encourage them to do further research. Perhaps from your research experience, you may be able to suggest to the participant specific sources for them to investigate. Most likely, they want to do more research, and just need some guidance and direction. It will be a win-win for both the Surname Project and the participant if you are able to achieve both additional research on their part, and their participation. In the Next Issue Please feel free to contact the editor with your comments, feedback, questions to be addressed, as well as suggestions for future articles. If you would like your Surname Project featured in our Spotlight column in a future issue, please send an email telling us about your project. If you are a Project Manager and can help others with tips or suggestions, please contact the editor: editor@familytreedna.com (Copyright 2002, Family Tree DNA), and cite "Facts & Genes" (http://www.familytreeDNA.com/facts_genes.asp) as the source. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

From: Sandi Gorin <sgorin@glasgow-ky.com> To: KYRESEARCH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: TIP #417 - THE TRANSYLVANIA COMPANY Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 07:23:51 -0600 I always basically knew what the Transylvania Company was but I have been reading a lot of old Kentucky history and historical novels and have a little better grasp on what transpired that could have effected the entire destiny of the Commonwealth of Kentucky. There was a Proclamation of 1763 which started everything. The French had been defeated by the British in the French and Indian War which ran 1755-1763. Then came the Treaty of Paris, signed 10 Feb 1963 which ceded the French possessions of Canada and the land east of the Mississippi River (excluding New Orleans) to the British. The Indians had sided with the British all this time and now felt they had been sold out by the British. Seven Indian tribes joined together (possibly more) in 1763 under the leadership of the Ottawa chief Pontiac in an attempt to defend their lands. Under Pontiac, battles were fought against any white man - soldiers, traders and most definitely the new settlers to the area. King George III of England reacted by issuing a proclamation on 7 Oct 1763 with the help of Lord Shelburne, president of the Board of Trade. This proclamation prohibited land grants in the area south of the Hudson's Bay Company, west of the Appalachian Mountains and north of the thirty-first parallel. This included lands beyond the heads of any of the rivers that fell into the Atlantic Ocean from the west and northwest. Any purchase of land from the Indians became illegal and the settlers were ordered to leave immediately. Virginia **(which would have included Kentucky at that time) resisted. It stated that the land between the mountains and the Mississippi River had been already given them by the King's predecessors. They also believed that the French had no legal right at all to cede the land to the British in the first place. Virginians firmly believed that Britain would soon become the King's royal dominion and that he was trying to protect the lucrative fur trade. But the settlers came. **Enter one Richard Henderson. He was a noted lawyer originally from Virginia, and since he had the finances, organized a land company to settle the area prohibited by the above. He planned to settle the entire area bounded by the Cumberland, Ohio and Kentucky Rivers. He set out, seeking every and all opportunity for land settlements and he surrounded himself with some important people. Daniel Boone, Henry Skaggs and Richard Calloway were noted explorers. He hired them to set out and scout the wilderness that was to become Kentucky. Boone was known as a secret agent as he knew the lands well. Boone had began his scouting for Henderson in 1733 or later. Henderson finished up his term of office as on the North Carolina Supreme Court and devoted all of his time on the acquisition of land. In August of 1774 he, accompanied by Thomas Hart, William Johnston, John Williams, John Luttrell and Nathaniel Hart established the Louisa Company from the former company known as the Henderson and Company. The new company set as its goal the securing of the Cherokee Indian's land titles south of the Ohio and west of the Kanawha River. In the fall of 1744 Henderson and Hart met with the Cherokee and started the negotiations. Even before reaching the agreement, Henderson started advertising in Virginia and North Carolina newspapers to attract settlers to the area. In March of 1775 the company reorganized again and became the Transylvania Company; signing that same month the Treaty at Sycamore Shoals on the Watagua River in now Tennessee with the Cherokee tribe. Cherokee chiefs at the conference included Okonistoto, Attakullakulla and Savonooko. They negotiated the purchase 17-20 million acres lying between the Ohio, Kentucky and Cumberland Rivers in exchange for 10,000 pounds of sterling goods. The treaty was also known as the Treat of Watagua and indirectly influenced the political development of Kentucky. It was the downfall of the Transylvania Company. Lord Dunmore, Governor of Virginia, declared that this had violated Virginia's territorial boundaries. It had breached the Proclamation of 1763 as it related to the expansion of Virginia's western lands. It had violated the Treaty of Fort Stanwix between the British and the Six Nations of Indians which granted land to the King of England; and it had broken the Virginia Statute of 1705 that barred private citizens from buying Indian land. So Virginia consolidated control over the territory by dividing Fincastle County into Kentucky, Montgomery and Washington counties. The Kentucky County representatives were represented in the General Assembly and thus the land was placed under the control of the colonial government. But before the decision of the Governor of Virginia, Henderson had been busy. He sent Boone and about thirty axemen in March of 1775 to open up the Wilderness Road. They established a fort and settlement named Boonesborough. The first Transylvania Convention met in May 1775 and elected representatives from Harrodsburg, Boiling Springs, St Asaph and six from Boonesborough. They formed a system of stockholders, passed nine laws on the behavior of the people, devised punishment for offenses, dealt with Sabbath-breaking, swearing, fees for the officials, improving horse breeding and how to preserve game. James Harrod along with the Governor of North Carolina also opposed the Transylvania Company and the holding of this convention. Harrod and many others had already settled in Kentucky and would be forced to relinquish their land claims and pay monies to Henderson's company. It was through the petitions of George Rogers Clark at the Virginia Convention that truly was the beginning of the end for the Transylvania Company. Clark, representing Harrodsburg asked the legislature to take on the responsibility for the western territory and to make Kentucky a political subdivision of Virginia. With the help of Virginia Governor Patrick Henry, the petition succeeded. December 17, 1776, the legislature created Kentucky County. It compensated Henderson with 200,000 acres in the region that now lies in Henderson County. But the land would, in 1792, become the Commonwealth of Kentucky. For further information see: Treaty of Sycamore Shoals transcription: http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/17750317.html Treaties, lands, history: http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/colonial2.html Biography of Richard Henderson: http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ky/county/henderson/RHendersonBio.htm James Harrod - Harrodsburg inc the cabins of some of the residents: http://www.state.ky.us/agencies/parks/i75frames/ftharrd2-body.htm A little on the life of George Rogers Clark: http://www.cismall.com/clark.html Six-Nations Tribes: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3808/people.html Sycamore Shoals: http://www.state.tn.us/environment/parks/sycamore/history.htm Richard Calloway and Calloway County: http://www.explorekentuckylake.com/calloway/history/murrayhistory.htm Patrick Henry's speech: http://libertyonline.hypermall.com/henry-liberty.html (c) Copyright 21 Nov 2002, Sandra K. Gorin, All Rights Reserved, sgorin@glasgow-ky.com Col. 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I want to thank all of the genealogy researchers for taking the time to research, and then sharing their results. Jan

Nena, there also is a KENT Co in Virginia, just east of Richmond. Actually it is NEW KENT Co. There is within it a small burg named NEW KENT. Tom

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