I have found a James Smuthers, that is in the 1830 Perry County, Tennessee census, Perry County is the mother county of Decatur County, Tennessee, I do not have acess to this census, it is listed on Ancestery.com but there is no image available of this census. This James may be the link for James D. Smothers and Tom Goodman's line. Noah

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If you go to http://www.images.google.com and type in Smothers or Smithers....you will be so amazed at the various pictures that come up. I did not try just a first and last name, just did the surname...here is one I found on a Smothers family fr Benton Tennessee......looks old http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnbenton/ smothers.jpg _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup

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Sorry I have been so slow to react to this.........I have three teenage kids at home and right now genealogy only gets to the top of my priority list when/if it can be dealt with quickly. I will try to get to www.familytreedna.com within the next few days to see what this is all about. Then I will make a decision. I have a 2nd cousin (another Bill Smothers!) in Illinois who I will to write about it....he is the only other Smothers I am in communication with whose connection to me is "proven." Happy Holidays Bill Smothers Delaware Nena Smothers wrote: > Hi folks...me again......[grin] > We now have 5 Smothers males willing to do the DNA Smothers project!! > Nate, Steve, Noah, Cal and David Smothers. > > WE NEED ONE MORE! please one of you Smothers males come forward and get in > on this great project! > We can begin it right after the New Year when family tree dna is back open. > Tom Goodman and I will be coordinating the project. > I will order the Project kits for 6 folks then and all you participants have > to do then is go to www.familytreedna.com > and order your individual kit, and be sure to sign the release form when the > kit comes in the mail to you. > With 6 participants its only 99. each. > Sure we can have more than 6 too, if anyone else wants to get in on this > project and find out for sure who your ancestor is and how you > match up to the others doing the project! > Please, someone come forward so we can get this going. > Sure will be a big payoff for those brick walls so many are up against. > Thank you for your time and interest, look forward to hearing from > a Smothers male that wants in on this project. > thanks so much, Nena > > From: dgselectric <dgselectric@earthlink.net> > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 3:27 PM > > Yup. I am a Smothers. My address is: > David Smothers > 33140 Trabuco Drive > Lake Elsinore, CA 92530 > > From: dgselectric <dgselectric@earthlink.net> > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:53 PM > Subject: Re: dna > > I'll do it. Can you give me the web address or send a kit to me? > David > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspamprotection_3mf > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Nena Let us know the next step. Audrey (wife of Cal Smothers)

Audrey......as soon as we get 1 more Smothers male......I will contact familytree dna to set up the Smothers project. they will have 6 kits available and all you will have to do is go to familytreedna.com and order your 12 marker, Y chromosone kit for the Smothers project...that is the ONE who want to order. It will be sent to you in abt 3-5 days, but they wont reopen til after the New Yr, be sure to sign release form comes with the kit...do the cheek swab, takes 2 days, sent it back and then we await results, which you will get a confirmation online when they receive yr kit and when results are in, you will receive a URL link where to go to review the matches to your results. You will get a Kit# and a code # to use to log into your results. I ask that each one send me the kit# and log in code so I can make the results available to everyone else in the project. Also by that time, my brother's results should be available also and we can also compare his and the other TX Smothers to this project and see how we all match up. Its going to be so very interesting. So lets just keep praying one more Smothers male out there will come forward to be included in this real important project! thanks Audrey for asking Cal! Best wishes for New Year to all, Nena From: MaryFamTre@aol.com Reply-To: SMOTHERS-L@rootsweb.com To: SMOTHERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SMOTHERS] NEEDED: ONE MORE SMOTHERS MALE-DNA Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 20:14:13 EST Nena Let us know the next step. Audrey (wife of Cal Smothers) _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_eliminateviruses_3mf

Hi folks...me again......[grin] We now have 5 Smothers males willing to do the DNA Smothers project!! Nate, Steve, Noah, Cal and David Smothers. WE NEED ONE MORE! please one of you Smothers males come forward and get in on this great project! We can begin it right after the New Year when family tree dna is back open. Tom Goodman and I will be coordinating the project. I will order the Project kits for 6 folks then and all you participants have to do then is go to www.familytreedna.com and order your individual kit, and be sure to sign the release form when the kit comes in the mail to you. With 6 participants its only 99. each. Sure we can have more than 6 too, if anyone else wants to get in on this project and find out for sure who your ancestor is and how you match up to the others doing the project! Please, someone come forward so we can get this going. Sure will be a big payoff for those brick walls so many are up against. Thank you for your time and interest, look forward to hearing from a Smothers male that wants in on this project. thanks so much, Nena From: dgselectric <dgselectric@earthlink.net> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 3:27 PM Yup. I am a Smothers. My address is: David Smothers 33140 Trabuco Drive Lake Elsinore, CA 92530 From: dgselectric <dgselectric@earthlink.net> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:53 PM Subject: Re: dna I'll do it. Can you give me the web address or send a kit to me? David _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspamprotection_3mf

I have looked up most of these probate records, now housed at the Delaware Public Archives in Dover, Kent County, Delaware, about an hours drive from my home. The genealogy of these Smithers is fairly well known. See the link to my genealogy records at Rootsweb World Connect: http://www.members.dca.net/smothers/genealogy/ Bill Smothers Delaware >http://www2.state.de.us/dpa/probate/result.asp > >an interesting list of Smithers at this site. > >Name Date Race Location > Smithers, Alfred B. 1936 Kent County > Smithers, Amos 1917 Kent County > Smithers, Andrew 1872-1895 Kent County > Smithers, Caleb 1869-1871 Kent County > >Smithers, Caleb J. > 1922-1930 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Charlotte Amelia > 1915-1923 > > New Castle County > >Smithers, David T. > 1915-1922 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Eliza A. > 1886-1926 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Elizabeth B. > 1888-1901 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Elizabeth G. > 1889-1912 > > Kent County > >Smithers, George > 1882-1883 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Harriet R. > 1923-1926 > > Kent County > >Smithers, John > 1814-1816 > > Kent County > >Smithers, John > 1823-1840 > > Kent County > >Smithers, John > 1786-1788 > > Kent County > >Smithers, John D. > 1848 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Joseph > 1854-1858 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Joseph > 1870-1872 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Joseph > 1887-1918 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Levisa > 1817-1824 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Lydia > 1828-1833 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Marcy > 1815-1819 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Margaret A. > 1893 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Mary > 1874-1875 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Mary E. > 1915-1928 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Mary T. > 1913-1923 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Nathaniel > 1820-1828 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Nathaniel B. > 1895-1897 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Nathaniel B., Jr. > 1891-1894 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Rebecca D. > 1876-1896 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Sally Ann > 1848-1849 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Susan > 1828 > > Kent County > >Smithers, Waitman > 1849-1850 > > Kent County > >Smithers, William > 1829-1832 > > Kent County > >Smithers, William P. > 1884-1888 > > Kent County > >Smithers, William P. > 1891-1894 > > Kent County > >Smithers, William Townsend > 1911-1913 > > Kent County > > > > > > > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

http://www2.state.de.us/dpa/probate/result.asp an interesting list of Smithers at this site. Name Date Race Location Smithers, Alfred B. 1936 Kent County Smithers, Amos 1917 Kent County Smithers, Andrew 1872-1895 Kent County Smithers, Caleb 1869-1871 Kent County Smithers, Caleb J. 1922-1930 Kent County Smithers, Charlotte Amelia 1915-1923 New Castle County Smithers, David T. 1915-1922 Kent County Smithers, Eliza A. 1886-1926 Kent County Smithers, Elizabeth B. 1888-1901 Kent County Smithers, Elizabeth G. 1889-1912 Kent County Smithers, George 1882-1883 Kent County Smithers, Harriet R. 1923-1926 Kent County Smithers, John 1814-1816 Kent County Smithers, John 1823-1840 Kent County Smithers, John 1786-1788 Kent County Smithers, John D. 1848 Kent County Smithers, Joseph 1854-1858 Kent County Smithers, Joseph 1870-1872 Kent County Smithers, Joseph 1887-1918 Kent County Smithers, Levisa 1817-1824 Kent County Smithers, Lydia 1828-1833 Kent County Smithers, Marcy 1815-1819 Kent County Smithers, Margaret A. 1893 Kent County Smithers, Mary 1874-1875 Kent County Smithers, Mary E. 1915-1928 Kent County Smithers, Mary T. 1913-1923 Kent County Smithers, Nathaniel 1820-1828 Kent County Smithers, Nathaniel B. 1895-1897 Kent County Smithers, Nathaniel B., Jr. 1891-1894 Kent County Smithers, Rebecca D. 1876-1896 Kent County Smithers, Sally Ann 1848-1849 Kent County Smithers, Susan 1828 Kent County Smithers, Waitman 1849-1850 Kent County Smithers, William 1829-1832 Kent County Smithers, William P. 1884-1888 Kent County Smithers, William P. 1891-1894 Kent County Smithers, William Townsend 1911-1913 Kent County

Thank you DAvid!...from little I have read of what I have read there is little of and it was done by Ray Smathers of the now defunct Smathers Archives, he mentions a Wm Smither I was knighted around the 11the century and again it was done to either a son or grandson also name Wm Smither II. I have tried to find more info on this but so far not much luck. At any rate, yes, you are surely correcto mungo that it was an 'individual' who rec'd the Coat of Arms and then passed thru family.So if we could find something on the lst Wm Smither that was knighted it would be most beneficial, I am thinking around 1100 then again in 1200, do not have the info in front of me. And I tend to agree with you, it sure seems the 'other' names became or could have become 'off shoots' of this Smither family, some of us have thought that for some time anyway, just trying to prove it appears more difficult, Nena [your Line is the Hill line md into Smither, correct & went to NC?] From: "L HILL" <davidandgailhill@msn.com>23 Dec 2002 15:47:54 -0500 As I know you are aware, Coats of Arms were granted to individuals for extraordinary loyalty to the king/queen as demonstrated by acts of bravery, heroism, etc., or possessing special skills or trades. The Coat of Arms was not bestowed upon a family. It is true, however, that many families carried the Coats of Arms forward through the generations as proof of their descendancy from the decorated ancestor. Coats of Arms really gained notoriety during the period of heraldry when everyone, who was anyone!, could not be anyone unless they traced their ancestry to some noble person. This is when the "concept" of "family Coats of Arms" came into play. For the most part, these early genealogist, practicing the "profession" of heraldry would make up a line of descent just to please someone who wanted to be someone. Unfortunately, these early heraldry accounts still exist and too many of we current genealogist are too quick to accept them as fact, when most are not! Again, since Coats of Arms were granted/bestowed upon individuals, not families, I would hope that there are many of our ancestors who where worthy enough to receive Coats of Arms within the Smithers/Smothers/Smathers/etc/etc families. It is possible that only one of our ancestors was worthy enough to have been awarded his own Coat of Arms and that Coat of Arms has been handed down from generation to generation to demonstrate descendancy from that worthy ancestor. If there is similarity in the Coats you have described, then, perhaps, we all can trace our descendancy to the same worthy person. Thank you,>David Hill>North Carolina _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_advancedjmf_3mf

All these have a Coat of Arms I found this VERY Interesting..I think you will see WHY!! Nena SMITHER According to our research, the origin of the name Smither is English and the Coat of Arms contains Silver with a green eagle. The Crest is A red eagle's head. We have written an 1800-word history on Smither. A small excerpt from this Smither family history: Spelling variations include: Smithers, Smithies, Smythies, Smither, and others. First found in in Yorkshire where they were seated from very ancient times, as Lords of the manor of Smithers, some say well before the Norman Conquest and the arrival of Duke William at Hastings in 1066 A. First landed in George Smither who settled in Virginia in 1652; Christopher Smithers settled in Maryland in 1704. SMITHERS According to our research, the origin of the name Smithers is English and the Coat of Arms contains Silver with a green eagle. The Crest is A red eagle's head. We have written an 1800-word history on Smithers. A small excerpt from this Smithers family history: Spelling variations include: Smithers, Smithies, Smythies, Smither, and others. First found in in Yorkshire where they were seated from very ancient times, as Lords of the manor of Smithers, some say well before the Norman Conquest and the arrival of Duke William at Hastings in 1066 A. First landed in George Smither who settled in Virginia in 1652; Christopher Smithers settled in Maryland in 1704. SMOTHERS According to our research, the origin of the name Smothers is English and the Coat of Arms contains Silver with a green eagle. The Crest is A red eagle's head. We have written an 1800-word history on Smothers. A small excerpt from this Smothers family history: Spelling variations include: Smithers, Smithies, Smythies, Smither, and others. First found in in Yorkshire where they were seated from very ancient times, as Lords of the manor of Smithers, some say well before the Norman Conquest and the arrival of Duke William at Hastings in 1066 A. First landed in George Smither who settled in Virginia in 1652; Christopher Smithers settled in Maryland in 1704. SMITHEY According to our research, the origin of the name Smithey is English and the Coat of Arms contains Silver with a green eagle. The Crest is A red eagle's head. We have written an 1800-word history on Smithey. A small excerpt from this Smithey family history: Spelling variations include: Smithers, Smithies, Smythies, Smither, and others. First found in in Yorkshire where they were seated from very ancient times, as Lords of the manor of Smithers, some say well before the Norman Conquest and the arrival of Duke William at Hastings in 1066 A. First landed in George Smither who settled in Virginia in 1652; Christopher Smithers settled in Maryland in 1704. SMETTERS According to our research, the origin of the name Smetters is English and the Coat of Arms contains Silver with a green eagle. The Crest is A red eagle's head. We have written an 1800-word history on Smetters. A small excerpt from this Smetters family history: Spelling variations include: Smithers, Smithies, Smythies, Smither, and others. First found in in Yorkshire where they were seated from very ancient times, as Lords of the manor of Smithers, some say well before the Norman Conquest and the arrival of Duke William at Hastings in 1066 A. First landed in George Smither who settled in Virginia in 1652; Christopher Smithers settled in Maryland in 1704. SMETHERS According to our research, the origin of the name Smethers is English and the Coat of Arms contains Silver with a green eagle. The Crest is A red eagle's head. We have written an 1800-word history on Smethers. A small excerpt from this Smethers family history: Spelling variations include: Smithers, Smithies, Smythies, Smither, and others. First found in in Yorkshire where they were seated from very ancient times, as Lords of the manor of Smithers, some say well before the Norman Conquest and the arrival of Duke William at Hastings in 1066 A. First landed in George Smither who settled in Virginia in 1652; Christopher Smithers settled in Maryland in 1704. SMYTHERS According to our research, the origin of the name Smythers is English and the Coat of Arms contains Silver with a green eagle. The Crest is A red eagle's head. We have written an 1800-word history on Smythers. A small excerpt from this Smythers family history: Spelling variations include: Smithers, Smithies, Smythies, Smither, and others. First found in in Yorkshire where they were seated from very ancient times, as Lords of the manor of Smithers, some say well before the Norman Conquest and the arrival of Duke William at Hastings in 1066 A. First landed in George Smither who settled in Virginia in 1652; Christopher Smithers settled in Maryland in 1704. SCHMETTERS According to our research, the origin of the name Schmetters is German and the Coat of Arms contains Black shield silver fess three gold stars. We have written an 1800-word history on Schmetters. A small excerpt from this Schmetters family history: Spelling variations include: Schmetter, Schmettau, Schmecker, Schmeter, Shmettau and many more. First found in Bavaria, where the family name was anciently associated with the tribal conflicts of the area. Some of the first settlers of this name or some of its variants were: settlers who travelled to the New World and established themselves along the eastern seaboard of the United States in Canada in the 18th and 19th centuries. Sorry, we do not have the name smathers in our database. Sorry, we do not have the name smeathers in our database. Sorry, we do not have the name smoothers in our database. Sorry, we do not have the name smuthers in our database. I AM ADDING THESE NAMES AS THEY MD INTO THE SMITHER/SMOTHERS SMOOT According to our research, the origin of the name Smoot is Scottish and the Coat of Arms contains Three anvils and a on a silver and black shield. The Crest is none. The family motto is Semper Fidelis We have written an 1800-word history on Smoot. A small excerpt from this Smoot family history: Spelling variations include: Smith, Smyth, Smythe, and others. First found in in northern England and Scotland, where they had been seated from ancient times. Some of the first settlers of this name or some of its variants were: Captain Smith who settled in Boston Mass. in 1766; Dr. Smith settled in San Francisco Cal. in 1852; Mrs. Smith settled in Virginia in 1624; Aleda Smith settled in New York State in 1880; Alex Smit and others. WHITE/WHYTE According to our research, the origin of the name Whyte is ScottishEnglishIrish (3 origins available-Scottish/English/Irish) and the Coat of Arms contains Argent, an eagle displayed between three quaTrefoils sable, and on a chief indented of the second as many quaTrefoils of the first. The family motto is Virtute parta We have written an 1800-word history on Whyte. A small excerpt from this Whyte family history: NOEL According to our research, the origin of the name Noel is EnglishFrenchFrench (3 origins available-English/French/French) and the Coat of Arms contains Gold with a red trellised design The Crest is A deer. The family motto is Jus suum cuique We have written an 1800-word history on Noel. A small excerpt from this Noel family history: SPARKS According to our research, the origin of the name Sparks is English and the Coat of Arms contains Chequered gold and green with a bend top left to bottom right in ermine. The Crest is A panther emerging from a crown with fire issuing from its mouth. We have written an 1800-word history on Sparks. A small excerpt from this Sparks family history: Spelling variations include: Sparke, Spark, Sparkes, Sparks, and others. First found in in Cheshire where they were seated from very ancient times, some say well before the Norman Conquest and the arrival of Duke William at Hastings in 1066 A. Some of the first settlers of this name or some of its variants were: John Sparks who settled in Virginia in 1621; George Sparke who settled in Virginia in 1623; Robert Sparkes settled in Maryland in 1663; Thomas Sparkes settled in Virginia in 1616, and others. MUSIC/MUSICK/MESSICK Our research, the origin of the name Music is French and the Coat of Arms contains Blue with a gold-hooded falcon standing on a red perch. We have written an 1800-word history on Music. A small excerpt from this Music family history: Spelling variations include: Musy, Musie, Musies, Mussy, Mussie, Mussies, Mussey and many more. First found in Brittany, where they have been seated since ancient times. First landed NOT AVAILABLE AT PRESENT TIME. WELLS Congratulations, the name Wells has a historic Coat of Arms associated with it! According to our research, the origin of the name Wells is English and the Coat of Arms contains Gold with a red lion rampant. The Crest is A black lion. The family motto is Semper paratus We have written an 1800-word history on Wells. A small excerpt from this Wells family history: Spelling variations include: Wells, Welles, Well, and others. First found in in Lincolnshire where they are conjecturally descended from Gilbert de Ghent who held the village and mill of Well from the Bishop of Bayeaux at the time of the Norman Conquest in 1066. Some of the first settlers of this name or some of its variants were: Thomas Wells settled in Trinity Bay, Newfoundland, in 1769; James and William Wells settled in Port de Grave, Newfoundland, in 1776; Gregory Wells settled in Virginia in 1635; Mary Wells settled in Virginia in 1636 with her husband; Richard Wells settled in Virg and others. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_addphotos_3mf

Have Norm contact me and I will send it to him, or he can look up (murderer) Hosea Smothers at Rootsweb World Connect. Bill Smothers > >When I posted that one murder by Smothers..someone posted a couple more and >one involved a Threewitt, I believe this is Norm's line, could who ever >posted that info, which I can not find in the archives, send it to Norm >please, thank you, Nena > >From: Norm Steffen nsteffen@n0rm.net >December 18, 2002 7:31 PM > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 3 months FREE*. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= >http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_stopmorespam_3mf > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

When I posted that one murder by Smothers..someone posted a couple more and one involved a Threewitt, I believe this is Norm's line, could who ever posted that info, which I can not find in the archives, send it to Norm please, thank you, Nena From: Norm Steffen nsteffen@n0rm.net December 18, 2002 7:31 PM _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_stopmorespam_3mf

Suze sent me this fr Ray...guess he thought it was our SMEATHERS. This is the Wm Smothers that prior desc of our WM SMEATHERS all used his military info, dob and probably the name of the wife Nancy for OUR Wm Smeathers. I have copied & pasted the Wm Smothers pension that was filed in 1824 in Virginia which proves in itself beyond much shadow of doubt, the Wm Smothers is NOT our Wm Smeathers. This pension, along with other documents was used to CLOSE the line of OUR SMEATHERS for anyone else getting into DAR using the Wm Smothers records. Now they must prove with facts that OUR Wm Smeathers WAS in the Rev War. There are many reason that prove this was not OUR WM SMEATHERS, to inc: 1-Our Wm SMEATHERS always used SMEATHERS. 2-He was Literate. We have a copy of his hand written will, see link 3-His obit states he was 71y when he died in 1837. This would make his dob around 1765-66, dont believe he was 14y old & in Rev War, Tx census bear out his obit age..see link below. 4-He was NOT in Va in 1824-he was in TX. Went there in 1820 for Stephen Austin as a scout & helped to build Ft Bend as 1 of the 5 of the Ole 300 left there. He stayed in Tx & died there in 1837. Is Historical marker there today with his name on it at Ft Bend. 5-He was NOT a laborer 6-He had many friends 7-Tx census prove him being in Tx as well as his headright fr Mex Govt & Dewitt Colony census among others. See lst link below 8-We think the Wm Smothers who md this Nancy could be where prior researchers picked up the name of a Nancy as being lst wife of Smeathers 9-This line is obviously the Line of this Wm Smothers & his siblings but not our Wm Smeathers. 10-Wm Smeathers was in the War of 1812, we have a copy of his records as being a Capt in the Batallion of Mounted Spies under the command of Major Touisannt Dubois which also inc Wm's brother, James Smeathers. 11-It was prior researchers, historians & writers of our Smeathers that used the sp of Smothers/Smithers..Wm always used SMEATHERS, as did his brother James. All KY SMEATHERS today are James Smeathers desc.They never left Ky, only Wm did. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Palmer" <backin5@webtv.net> To: <lfox48@netnitco.net> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:11 PM Subject: nena smothers Hi Cuz, Wonder if this is Nena Smother's line..... SMOTHERS FAMILY http://community.webtv.net/backin5/Coutilliersthe Members of the Smithers/ Smothers family born about 1710 were 1 i. Sarah Smither, born say 1702. ii. Godfrey Smithers, born about 1713, a twenty-one-year-old "Mulatto" who ran away from Abraham Nicholas of James City County according to the 26 September 1734 issue of the AWM [Headley, 18th Century Virginia Newspapers, 317]. 1. Sarah Smither, born say 1702, was a "free Mullatto Woman" who had a child called "Mullatto Nanny" by a white man. In August 1743 Nanny brought a successful suit for her freedom against Mrs. Holland, widow of Col. William Holland, in Anne Arundel County, Maryland Court [Judgment Record 1743-4, 170]. She was the mother of 2 i. Nanny, born say 1722, granted her freedom in August 1743. 2. Nanny Smithers, born say 1722, was granted her freedom from Mrs. Holland in Anne Arundel County in August 1743. She may have been the ancestor of i. Elisha Smothers, head of an Anne Arundel County household of 6 "other free" in 1810 [MD:83]. ii. Diana Smothers, head of a Baltimore City household of 1 "other free" in 1810 [MD:169]. iii. Ralph Smothers, head of a Montgomery County, Pennsylvania household of 3 "other free" in 1790. iv. Thomas1 Smothers, head of a Frederick County, Maryland household of 8 "other free" in 1800 [MD:959]. *** v. William1 Smothers, a Revolutionary soldier from Cumberland County, Virginia. He was a "free Blk." taxable in Powhatan County in 1790 [Personal Property Tax List, p.18]. He married Nancy Brown, 17 September 1795 Powhatan County bond.*** vi. Elizabeth Smothers, born before 1776, head of a Rockingham County, North Carolina household of 1 white woman and 1 white male under 16 years of age in 1790 [NC:169], 5 whites in 1810 [NC:177] and 4 "free colored" in 1820 [NC:584]. vii. Thomas2 Smothers, born 1775-1796, head of a Stokes County, North Carolina household of 6 "free colored" in 1820 [NC:371]. He may have been the Thomas Smothers who married Rebecca John, 12 September 1799 Washington County, Virginia bond. [Noah you might ought to correct Ray on this data!] viii. Charles Smothers, born 1775-1796, head of a Rockingham County, North Carolina household of 6 "free colored in 1820 [NC:602] and 9 "free colored" in Guilford County in 1830. ix. William2 Smothers, born 1775-1796, head of a Guilford County household of 1 "free colored" in 1820 [NC:115]. He married Mason Melton, 6 December 1823 Guilford County bond and Mary Ann Newby, both "colored," 21 November 1825 Guilford County bond, no bondsman listed. x. John Smothers, married Fanny Kersey, 25 September 1825 Guilford County bond, Aaron Nuby bondsman. **William Smothers' Revolutionary War Pension Application Claim: File contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by: Frankie J. Preston Cumberland County Records: William Smothers July 26, 1824**** William Smothers a free man of colour. This day made his Declaration in these words. His Declaration and a schedule of his estate which was sworn to in these words. “Schedule of property and ( ) and this court values the whole of the property contained in the said Schedule to Forty Dollars”, which is ordered to be certified to the Secretary of War. William Smothers’ Revolutionary War Pension Application Claim: Original Claim (S38375) Declaration in order to be placed on the pension list under the Act of the 18th of March 1818 Virginia, Cumberland County: On This **26th day of July, 1824** personally appeared in open court (being a court of record) for this county aforesaid William Smothers, resident said county, aged sixty five years, who being first duly sworn, according to---on his oath, make the following declaration in order to obtain the provision (made by the Acts of Congress of the 18th March, 1818 and the 1st May 1820, that he, the said William Smothers enlisted for the term of --years on the --day of --in the year 1781, in the State of Virginia, in the company commanded by Cpt. Stuplian Southall, in the Regiment commanded by Colonel Charles Harrison, in the line of the state of Virginia on the Virginia Continental establishment. That he continued to serve in said Corps until the close of the war, when he was discharged from the service in Richmond, in the state of Virginia, that he herby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension, except the present; that his name is not on the roll of any state, except that of Virginia and that the **following are his reasons for not making earlier application for a pension**; to wit that he was **illiterate himself** and had **no friend**, who would urge his claim, and take the necessary steps towards obtaining it, that he twice engaged a lawyer to attend to it, each of whom after disappointing him for a long time, finally did nothing......And in pursuance of the Act of May 1st 1820 I do solemnly swear, that I was a resident citizen of the United States on the 18th day of March 1818 and that I have not since that time, by gift, sale or in any manner whatever disposed of any property or any part thereof with intent thereby so to d-------as to bring myself within the provisions of, an act of Congress, entitled “An act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary War”, passed on the 18th of March 1818 and that I have not, nor has any person in trust for me, any property, or securities, contracts or debts due to me. Nor have I any income, other than what is contained in the schedule hereto annexed, and by me subscribed, so help me God. Schedule of property belonging to William Smothers towit: one cow, three shoats. two sows, one pine chest, one pot, one dutch oven, one----, six chairs, on pine table, six plates, six knives and forks, one d---, one flax wheel, one cotton wheel, one hauking reel, two axes, two hilling hoes, two plough hoes, one pair wedges, and four acres of land: his occupation is that of a **lobourer**, and his ability to pursue it, depends principally on his health, which is as good as that of most persons of his age, and that the only person of his family, is his **wife, Nancy** who is about fifty years of age, and can only attend to the affairs of the house. That since the 18th of March 1818, no changes have been made in his property, except of a very trivial nature. his Wm. x Smothers mark Sworn to and declared on the **26th day of July 1824** in open court. I Miller Woodson clerk of the County of Cumberland do hereby certify, that it appears to the satisfaction of the Court that the said William Smothers, did serve in the Revolutionary War as stated in the preceding declaration, against the ------enemy, for the term of nine months, under one engaged on the continental establishment. I also certify, that the foregoing oath, and the schedule thereto annexed, are truly copies from the records of the said Court, and I do further certify that it is the opinion of the said Court,that the total amount in value of the property exhibited in the aforesaid Schedule, is forty dollars. Miller Woodson, CC Mailed to James Barbour Esq. Secretary al. War Washington City Cartersville, April 28th 1825 Dear Sir I herewith mailed (as the friend of William Smothers), his declaration in order to be placed on the pension list made in July last. I sent on the same declaration and Schedule to W. Calhoun last fall which was returned to me for want of form, the clerk having neglected to affix the seal of the County. I hope the declaration herewith enclosed will be found to be in proper form and that you will answer our petition as soon as convenient, as the applicant is in distressed circumstances. Very Respectfully Your Able Servt James MCLaurine Ps Please send to Cartersville, Cumberland County, Virg. USGENWEB NOTICE: In keeping with our policy of providing free information on the Internet, data may be freely used by non-commercial entities, as long as this message remains on all copied material. These electronic pages cannot be reproduced in any format for profit or other presentation. **My gggg grandfather William Smeathers http://www.tamu.edu/ccbn/dewitt/smothers.htm **Brazoria Co Hist Museum-Wm Smeathers Will/Obit http://www.bchm.org/Austin/panel14.html **Migrations of Wm Smeathers http://www.migrations.org/individual.php3?record=21943 _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspamprotection_3mf

After reading Sandi's story today, thought I would share with you and just wondering how ya'll are doing out there whereever you live during this time of year??? Amazingly, here in Northeartern Washington state, we do NOT have any of that 'white stuff' that falls fr the sky...if I spell it backwards I keep hoping it will stay away- W O N S - does that means we 'wons'...[grin]. The boys did get me a sno blower so that will help the ole achy bones when time comes to start the shouveling. Temperatures here have been pleasant enough for this time of the year, around 30-40, we had abt 4 days of heavy rains, which our pasture and pond now over floweth and the native geese and ducks are enjoying the fresh moving waters. I sure can relate to alot in Sandi's story as I do live on a ranch in the woods and all our 12 cord of wood was cut and split by my sons & friends earlier this summer; we had a new roof put on; redid our whole pasture fence so burro's and mr goat won't be going for midnite adventures; even got all the loose tin back on the barn that flew off & came unscrewed on some windy autumn days & got our hay in before the rains. We do raise alot of our own pork, chickens, etc..and my sons are very avid hunters so I can alot & jerky venison as well as fish we catch & we have a nice garden. I know whats its like to think abt the critters in the winter. Our geese, ducks, chickens, guineas & rabbits all run loose and I am always concerned there is enough insulation & heat lamps in the chicken house and little hideaways for the rabbits to find cover around the yard or in the barn. We toss a whole bale of straw to the last 2 piggies we have & as nite falls to ck on them, they are buried so not even an ear is visible. We have a well only 16' deep as we live abt 1/4mi fr the Pend Oreille River but we keep a heat light in the well house the boys built over the top of the well when they were in HS & I even keep a lite on for the 8 outside cats in the garage as well as ole blankets for them to cuddle & stay warm. The boys put in an underground electrical line with a plug outlet by the water trough long ago, so we can plug in the trough heater to keep the water fr freezing & critters have fresh water. Its really amazing once one thinks abt everything one needs to do to be 'winter prepared' even today if you live where there is cold & in the country but I would not take anything for this living. I truly enjoy it, but I understand like the Pioneers of ole, that preparation for winter comes by the middle of summer, even for this ole transplanted Texas gal. My one enjoyment we have already been taking advantage of is the hot tub we got this summer & truly there is nothing like being in 104 deg water, telling stories, listening to the sounds of nature & gazing to the falling dusk over the Canadian Rockies to our North. How blessed we are, right, having a few more conveniences than our ancestors in 1792 & Thankful they made it so we COULD be here too! May you all be blessed by Sandi's story. Merry Christmas fr the 'Cook Ranch'. From: Sandi Gorin <sgorin@glasgow-ky.com> To: KYRESEARCH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: TIP #421 - KENTUCKY SNOWSTORM Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 06:55:10 -0600 TIP # 421 KENTUCKY SNOWSTORM "As I look out the window there is a little bit of snow remains on the ground, left over from a storm late last week. More is predicted, but most of Kentucky doesn't suffer from a lot of the big snows of the past. While reading the old newspapers, there seems there used to be a lot more snow than there is today. I love snow - but now, older than I was ... only on Christmas eve and Christmas Day! But while watching the weather reports from around other parts of the United States, I began thinking of how the early settlers coped with the snow. We see reports of people going for over a week without power in North Carolina, and of traffic snarled on slick roads. What did the pioneers do? Go back in your mind to Christmas 1792. Kentucky was a fledgling state - the Commonwealth of Kentucky - oh, that sounded so wonderful to the early pioneers. They had staked out their land, built some sort of a cabin, fought off the Indian attacks, and brought their families from Virginia, the Carolinas, Pennsylvania; all to this wonderful state called the Kentucky. The state was changing ever so slowly from being the land of blood to the land of peace. Rich soil, beautiful streams, every sort of wildlife imaginable fired the passion in the souls of those early brave men, women and children. The crops of spring and summer had outdone themselves in production. The soft breezes, the sound of the coyote in the distance, the magnitude of the stars overhead; all held promise of a glorious life. As the whispering leaves began to change into their fall wardrobes of gold, red and brown, the husband knew that the days were getting shorter and that he would have to lay in a supply of firewood, meat and provisions for the coming winter months. As evenings began to come earlier, he hurried his pace even more. Chopping wood which seemed like it would take an eternity until his shoulders and back ached so he could no longer lift the axe over his head. He finished the storage area for the crops, normally built into a hillside or in a sheltered place if possible, with the door opening in so the snow piles would not keep him from getting to the food their family would need. Potatoes, beans, preserves, hams, beef, anything to tide them over. Next he had to check on the livestock if he had been fortunate enough to have a small herd of cattle, pigs, chickens, geese along with his horses and oxen, dogs and cats. He asked himself if he had harvested enough hay to last the winter - and he remembered the hours spent in the open fields with a sythe, swinging it back and forth in the hot sun. [Oh, to have some of that warmth now!] The hay had been piled in high stacks, row after row in the animal shelter and he checked to see that there was room for all the livestock and provisions to keep them alive through the long winter months. Water! He'd have to rely on the spring down the hill for that, the spring shouldn't freeze over but he'd had to make trip after trip up and down that hill to furnish enough water for his family as well as his animals. Inside the cabin, the wife was working furiously at getting preparations made too. She made extra of everything and found little cubby holes to store food stuffs in. Her fingers were becoming calloused - she had helped swing that axe too, and had been busy at the spinning wheel trying to get warmer winter clothes for the children. They normally went barefoot but now they needed shoes for the winter. Before the days became too short, they would walk or ride to the mercantile, a 10 mile journey perhaps. If they didn't have the money to buy the remaining goods they needed, they would barter or run a charge account. The wife carefully looked over the shelves knowing how much she could spend to the penny. Sugar, salt, perhaps a little molasses, a patent medicine if she didn't know how to make her own medicine. Hmmm... just enough for a spool of thread and some jeans material. Fresh fruit - how wonderful that sounded, but the cost of just one apple would take the rest of her money; it had been shipped for many miles and the cost driven up with each mile. Maybe she could afford 4 apples for a Christmas treat. Then, in the middle of the night, the snows came. The winds were so strong that the father could barely push against it to get outside to care for the animals in the morning. Everything was white, everything looked alike as he tried to find his way to the barn. Water, they needed water. As he slipped and slid to the spring, he might make the awful discovery that the spring had indeed frozen. Chopping away at ice, he climbed and fell until he reached the barn again - trip after trip. Then the family. The children were so excited, not noticing the cold like the parents did. Cheerfully sticking red noses out the door, they wanted to play, but the father knew that they could not go out in weather like this. The window, only one in the cabin, had been covered with old cloth, they hadn't gotten this window glass that some people were raving about. The winds blew so hard that the mother had to stand by the window and hold it down. She was rushing back and forth to keep the fire going and told the father that they must have more logs for the fire. The baby's crib was moved closer to the fire, she was so young and couldn't take this cold. They had shoved their own straw mattress over as close as they could without letting it catch on fire from an ember from the fireplace. And the snows came. Day after day without reprieve. The livestock was suffering; he'd found a couple of the chickens frozen in the corner the day before. They had stopped laying eggs totally. Carefully, he gathered up what geese and chickens he could, trip after trip, and brought them into the warmth of the cabin - if warmth is what it could be called. He made a little nest in the corner for them and the fowl settled in contentedly. But he couldn't lose his horses; he needed them to ride. And the few cows were getting scrawnier and mooed almost constantly - he could hear them above the howling winds. The calf was gone by next morning, frozen as it lay next to it's starving mother. "Lord," he prayed, "we're not going to make it if the snows don't stop, please stop the snows." By morning, the sun was glistening on the snow, piled in places as high as the roof of the cabin. Sunshine! A little dripping could be heard from the roof as the icicles relaxed and started thawing. A moo was heard from the barn, but it was not the plaintive crying of previous days. It was a restless mooing of a cow who had been cooped up way too long. Day by day, the snows decreased on the ground and the little gurgling of the spring could be heard between the delighted giggles of the children who had rushed outside to play in the snow. They had made it, the firewood had held, the food supplies were still plentiful. But as the mother and father stood in the doorway they knew that this was only December. December 25th and they shared those precious apples. Merry Christmas friends! 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Did anyone on the list recognize this family? I am reasonably familiar with the 18th century Delaware Smithers and cannot make the connection. Bill Noah Smothers wrote: > Household Record 1880 United States Census > > Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > Household: > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation > Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace > Benjamin S. SMITHERS Self M Male W 70 WV Farmer DE DE > Eliza SMITHERS Wife M Female W 65 VA Keeps House VA VA > Carolina Q. SMITHERS Dau S Female W 32 WV WV VA > James SHEPPARD Other S Male B 50 VA Farm Laborer VA VA > Edward MCNEELEY Son S Male W 10 WV WV WV > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > Source Information: > Census Place Malden, Kanawha, West Virginia > Family History Library Film 1255405 > NA Film Number T9-1405 > Page Number 310D > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > © 1999-2002 by Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. English > approval: 3/1999 > Use of this site constitutes your acceptance of these Conditions of Use > (last updated: 3/22/1999). > Privacy Policy (last updated: 10/12/2001). 28 > http://www.familysearch.org v.2.5.0 > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Ooops! I seem to have sent this twice to Smothers-L.......sorry! Bill Smothers wrote: > Looking for the rascals in your family tree? Here is a web site where > you can look up current New Jersey prison inmates (two Smothers) and > recent escapees. I have heard other states have similar web sites. > > http://www.state.nj.us/corrections/index.html > > Bill Smothers > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Looking for the rascals in your family tree? Here is a web site where you can look up current New Jersey prison inmates (two Smothers) and recent escapees. I have heard other states have similar web sites. http://www.state.nj.us/corrections/index.html Bill Smothers

Here is a web site where you can look up current New Jersey prison inmates (two Smothers) and recent escapees. I have heard other states have similar web sites. http://www.state.nj.us/corrections/index.html Bill Smothers