This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: essexclark Surnames: Conduit, Alford, Smart, Timms Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.smart/1678/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone have a copy of the birth record of the first known child of Henry John Conduit and Sarah Emma Alford, Sarah Emma b. 1859 (m. SMART) or the 3rd known child, Selina Jane b. 1852 (m. TIMMS)? I was looking at the birth record of their 2nd child Henry John jnr (aka John Henry) b. 29 Apr 1860. The copy is not clear but under the marriage of the parents where it lists previous issue there are 3 lines: 1 boy (there is a } connecting line 1 & 2) 1 girl } living (this would be Sarah Emma) 1 boy dead This seems to indicate that Henry and Sarah had 2 other previously unknow male children before 1860 and it is possible that a reference to them is also on Sarah Emma or Selina Jane's birth records registered in Belfasr (Pt Fairy). There is no reference to these 2 boys on the birth record of younger son William Henry in 1869. The other thing that I noticed is time between the birth of Sarah and Henry. I have not seen an original of Sarah's birth record but I have been told she was born 13 Sep 1859. That is only 7 months 16 days and would make Henry John a premature baby. Can anyone confirm the date of birth for Sarah Emma? Henry and Sarah married in Woodford, Wilts on 1 Sep 1856 (date from original rec) and sailed for Australia 5 Oct 1856 arriving in Belfast (now Port Fairy) on 17 Jan 1857. Little time to have had children before they left England or did Sarah have an illegitimate child there? She could have been pregnant when they married and the first child born and died at sea. Otherwise both boys were born in Belfast and at least one died there. The other could have died anywhere between Belfast, Plesant Creek (Stawell) and Moyston. I would be interested to hear anyone's thoughts on this subject. Cheers, Diane http://dianefentontree.tribalpages.com Currently adding copies of BDMs to site Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.