In a message dated 1/22/2002 7:35:09 PM US Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Gertranda and Florjan. >> Florian (same pronunciation as Florjan) is definitely a male name. I have a cousin with this name in current day Austria, province of Carinthia just north of Slovenia. There is no English equivalent. Could Gertranda supposed to be Gertrauda instead? (in Old Gothic handwriting, u and n look alike except for the "little mark" above the letter when it is supposed to be a "u" - so if someone transcribed the names and they don't know the gothic alphabet, they could have erred). Gertraud, Gertraut, etc in German, and Gertruada and alternate spellings in the Czech. is a very common name and would be equivalent to Gertrude in English. For Slovenian given names - (found with a simple search on www.google.com) http://feefhs.org/slovenia/sidb1/si-names.html http://www.kabalarians.com/male/sloven-m.htm for males http://www.kabalarians.com/female/sloven-f.htm for females Most complete given name list with alternate spellings for English, German, Hungarian, Czech, Slovak, etc. Although Slovenian is not listed, I think this list is the most complete and most helpful I've seen for finding given name equivalents (names don't actually translate) http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/sc/oconee/misc/foreign-names.txt