Hi! Thought I'd jump on the bandwagon and share what little I have: My husband's grandmother is Jennie Finc (sometimes shown as Finch), b. 1915 in Browndale, Wayne Co., PA. (family also lived in Manville, NJ) Her parents were Frank Finc b. 1880 (in Yugoslavia?) & Agnes Kovacic b. 1889 (in Yugoslavia?) Parents of Agnes Kovacic were Gasper Kaucic & Agnes Other names that married into the family include Korosec, Marsicano, Smygelski, Kukwa, Purawic, Zamorsky, Szymanski. I haven't done any records research into this family yet -- just questioned all the family members that I can. If any of these names and locations sound familiar, I would love to hear from you. Thanks! Jenny Calvin

SKRABAN, Theresa 1888-1967 Murska Sobota YUG (Slovenia)>NorthamptonCO, Bethlehem PA USA Her mother's maiden name was Terezija SIFTAR her father was Joseph Skraban. Theresa's birth certificate listed her parents as farmers. The certificate shows the address as Strukovci st.21. It also shows "Krajevni ured Bodonci" in the upper left corner. Not sure what this means. If the translation from her birth certificate is correct, her godparents were Stefan GYERJEK and Lajos SINIC. I have no info on them but their names. Theresa married Joseph KOVACS 1886 - 1965 He was born in area of Veszprem Megye, HUN. children (and their spouses) of Joseph and Theresa (Skraban) Kovacs are: 1. Joseph Jr (m. REITER) 2. Katherine (m. Frank KONYA) 3. Frank (m. Gizzella GRABAR) 4. James 5. Alex (m. SCHEIRER) 6. Stephen (m. SCHWARTZ) 7. Mary 8. John (m. Betty ROMIG) 9. Charles (m. SCHRANTZ) 10. William (m. PODHANY) Both sides of the family may have had relatives living in Carbon CO, Palmerton, PA. area Take care, Genie Marie ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* [email protected] http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5238/ Kovach, Kovacs, Skraban, Siftar Schwartz, Urban, Eustis, Evans, (Williams) ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Anybody else out there researching these names? Thanks, Patti in Ohio

Kay: First thing you really need to do it obtain Joseph's (1) Declaration of Intention and (2) Petition for Naturalization and (3) Naturalization Certificate. Generally three documents were filed at separate intervals. The Petition for Naturalization is the document with facts you will need for ship he traveled to America on, which port he departed from and port entered and the dates. These papers should be filed at the county courthouse in the county in which he lived. Under the law his wife and children would have received citizenship on the same document as his even though not named. They will most likely be named on the Petition for Naturalization though. You can then File Form NAFT 81 Order for Copies of Passenger Arrival Records. The copy I received for my grandfather was difficult to read. Also these lists were prepared by the Shipping Line (and not any American Official) and many names will be spelled incorrectly or with a German Script. You may be fortunate to find other family members traveling on the same ship. The copy I received showed several men from the same town with the same American destination (Waukegan). Our family names are not strictly Slovene but I wouldn't have said that to my grandparents. French and Italian names are common as are German surnames. We must remember who was running Slovenia and intermarrying with the ladies. The ship he came over on could have been Italian or German. Second, check the 1900 census for Joseph and any other family member who he may be living with. That year requests year of immigration, number of years in US and if naturalized. The 1920 census asks essentially the same questions. Getting the year will help you to locate where he may have filed his papers. When the question of language is asked some of the census takers wrote in whatever they chose. If you were from Austria you must speak German. Yeah!!! Also look very carefully for misspelling of names. I found one of my family named Rostan under the name of Rosman. Fortunately the first name gave me the clue that this was a misspelling in a neighborhood of Slovenes. I cannot help you with death certificates filed in Pennsylvania. Again, it may be filed under a misspelled name or a maiden name. You do not know who provided the information at that stressful time and they may have mixed things up or spoken with an accent that the official couldn't understand completely. All of this is rather like breaking codes in spy books. Third: You might also find the parish church they attended and obtain a copy Slovene society books, etc. The newspapers of the community are probably on microfilm and a history of the Slovene community may have been published. Fourth: You might post your letter on Genforum on the Slovenia board. Also are you a member of the Slovenia Genealogical Society? If not, the small annual fee of $10.00 is well worth it and you will find gobs of support from the membership. The SGS has a webpage and also there is a large site for the genealogy society in Slovenia where you can surf all over the place and post your requests. Further comments: Also Slovak is the language of what is now the country of Slovakia the former Czechoslovakia. Slovene is our language. Can anyone else out there in Slovene NetLand help this lady with her problem? Perhaps one of you are related to this family. Poldi Tonin TONIN, ROSTAN, PAVLIC, KOVACIC, HUMAR, PESTOTNIK just as a start. <A HREF=" http://www.sloveniangenealogy.org/MembershipInvitation.htm ">Join us! An Invitation to join the Slovenian Genealogy Society</A> ++++++++++++++++++= [email protected] wrote: > I have the proverbial brick wall with my husband's grandparents. > Gr-fthr. was Joseph Santa. 1910 census shows him as arriving in US > 1895-98 (can't read it very well). He settled in a small town outside of > Pittsburgh, PA. named Glenfield. He was 41 yrs old in 1910 and it shows > his birthplace as Austria-Slovenia. He had a wife named Mary who came > from same place and was 38 in 1910. They had two children born in > Austria Slovenia Mike (Michael) born in 1891 and Mary, born 1899. > They had a female child whose name is unknown to us that they left > in Europe because she was involved with a fiance there and didn't want to > leave him. She was said to have the voice of an angel and sang in all the > great churches in her homeland. Joseph worked on the steam railroad and > where he settled in Glenfield, there were a lot of other people from his > homeland one of which was Peter Santa who lived next door to Joseph & > Mary. Joseph died in a train accident on August 28, 1920 in the Woods Run > section of Pittsburgh where he moved after Mary's death sometime between > 1911 and 1920. She also left another child who was born in the US in 1906 > and her name was Ann. Joseph's death cert. shows his mother as Anna Gripp > also born in Austria. Slovenian & Slovak friends claim Gripp is not a > Slovenian or Slovak name but husband's cousin who is 82 says they all > spoke Slovak, not Slovenian?? Can't find the boats they came on; can't > find from where they came?? Can't find Mary's death cert. nor can I find > who raised Ann after her mother died when she was so young; she is not > with older siblings or father on the 1920 census. I know as recently as > 5 years ago she was living in New Jersey, somewhere around Cape May > and she was the widow of Siegfred (Fred) Magis and also had a son who > lived nearby named Erston Magis. So many bricks, so many walls, but > thanks for listening. I am sending this same letter to the Slovenia site > and thanks for reminding to do that. Kay Santa

--part1_a4.60daef4.2684114c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_a4.60daef4.2684114c_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-st05.mail.aol.com (rly-st05.mail.aol.com [172.31.34.4]) by air-yd05.mail.aol.com (v74.17) with ESMTP; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:01:41 -0400 Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.2]) by rly-st05.mail.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id RAA10096; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:41:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v74.17) with ESMTP; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:41:21 2000 Received: (from [email protected]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e5MLerZ20147; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:40:53 -0700 Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:40:53 -0700 X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Thu Jun 22 14:40:52 2000 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 16:36:48 -0500 From: TreeMother <[email protected]> Organization: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/5055/zidinja.html X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] Subject: Re: subscribed?? References: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/39 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] Apparently, but it is very quiet on this page. Why don't some of the subscribers post their lineages and hopefully discover a family member out here in Net Land. Lea: Get out family out here on line. You have more than I do. Rootsweb is free now, but after this merger it won't be long before you will have to pay for these wonderful boards. A Slovene In Texas [email protected] wrote: > Am I still subscribed?? --part1_a4.60daef4.2684114c_boundary--

Apparently, but it is very quiet on this page. Why don't some of the subscribers post their lineages and hopefully discover a family member out here in Net Land. Lea: Get out family out here on line. You have more than I do. Rootsweb is free now, but after this merger it won't be long before you will have to pay for these wonderful boards. A Slovene In Texas [email protected] wrote: > Am I still subscribed??

Am I still subscribed??

Hi Listers I have Biagio PAVLICEVICH who left Istra early 1800's, sailed to Scotland and married Johannah WOOD on 2 Nov 1814 in Edinburgh. It is said that his place of birth, which was near the Italian border, was sometimes under Italian rule and sometimes under Balkan rule. Two versions of why he left his birth country: 1. Fled when his parents insisted on his becoming a Priest 2. Fled when Napoleon invaded and destroyed the Monasteries. It is thought that 'Biagio' is an Italian name, so perhaps Italian blood on his mother's side? Anyone researching this family name? Regards Helen mailto:[email protected] Web Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pavlich/

I am searching for any information on my grgrandmother.Information is as follows She was born Magdaline Fabic in 1857 in the village of Liplje. To the best of my knowledge her father died, and she was raised by Mijo Pavlenic and Dora Kaparic. I dont know when she came to the U.S. but in 1891 she married John Ostrovich/Ostronic. He died before 1894, because in 1894 she remarried to John Novak. I have been searching for information on her for a long time, and also searching for John Ostronic who died somewhere in Pittsburgh Pa. but cannot find a obit for him, a cemetery on where he is even buried! It seems that where they lived is even distroyed and was replaced with a highway in Pa. Any information is greatly appreciated as I am at a loss on where to search now. It seems John Ostronic wasnt even in U.S. long enough to have become a citizen. patty [email protected]

Manda Pavlenic /Ostronic born 1857 in Liplje Croatia, died 1943 in Pittsburgh Pa. Franc Pockaj born 1885 in Ostrozno Brdo died 1957 in Pittsburgh Pa. Franc Pockaj;s parents were Anthony Pockaj, and Ursala Vatovec. [email protected]

Franc Pockaj, born 1885 in croatia, parents are Anthony Pockaj, and Ursala Vatovec [email protected]

He was born in 1877 and came to us in 1902. I want to find his birth place or any next of kin. Howard in DesMoines Iowa

Hello Again Listers, I am seeking any info on the Surnames TOMEC from Podklanec 29, Slovenia and BUBASH from Ucakovci 12, Slovenia. Both towns are on the border of Slovenia/Croatia from Mackovec 6,Slovenia. Judy Gallaway Sacramento, CA _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp

Need help in trying to locate any relaltives or descendents of the following: VIDRICK , VIDRIH, CERNIC,CHERNICH, CRNIC, ZAKRAJSEK Thank You Bob Vidrick

Hello listers, Below are the first 6 generations of my STEBLAJ ancestors, all from the Iska, later Iska Vas regions of Slovenia. Names and dates were extracted from the church records at Iska Vas by a fourth cousin. Please contact me if there are any connections! Thanks for looking Anna in MN (searching Slovenian surnames) [email protected] K.O.Z.L.E.V.C.A.R K.R.A.M.A.R O.V.E.N P.O.Z.N.I.K S.T.E.B.L.A.J S.I.V.C T.R.O.N.T.E.L.J V.O.V.K Descendants of L Steblaj 1 L Steblaj 1677 - 1742/43 .. +? Tekavc 1682/83 - 1752 . 2 Mathias Kavcic 1707/08 - . 2 Martin Steblaj 1710 - 1710 . 2 Josef Steblaj 1710 - ..... +????? . 2 Elizabeth Steblaj 1711 - . 2 Gregory Steblaj 1717/18 - 1793 ..... +??? Rupert 1730 - 1798 ..... 3 Martin Steblaj 1751 - 1795 ......... +Agnes Rupert 1757 - 1834 ......... 4 Matevz Steblaj 1782 - 1856 ............. +Maria Vidmar 1778 - 1839 ............. 5 Josef Steblaj 1805 - 1806 ............. 5 Johann Steblaj 1807 - 1884 ................. +Maria Korosic 1804 - 1858 ................. 6 John Steblaj 1833 - Unknown ..................... +Agnes Sivc 1843 - Unknown ................. 6 Anton Steblaj 1836 - Unknown ................. 6 Matevz Steblaj 1839 - Unknown ..................... +Marija Bostjancic Unknown - Unknown ................ . 6 Jakob Steblaj 1844 - 1879 ................. 6 Felici Franciska Steblaj 1852 - 1854 ............. 5 Josef Steblaj 1811 - 1812 ............. 5 Josef Majer 1811 - 1812 ............. 5 Johan Strukelj 1812 - 1812 ............. 5 Antonia Tumbard 1815 - 1815 ............. 5 Jakob Steblaj 1815 - 1815 ............. 5 Martin Steblaj 1820 - 1823 ............. 5 Agata Ursa 1821 - ......... 4 Josef Steblaj 1781 - 1781 ......... 4 Ursula Steblaj 1785 - 1789 ......... 4 Maria Steblaj 1788 - ......... 4 Anna Steblaj 1791 - 1793 ......... 4 Gnovy Steblaj 1794 - ..... 3 Mathias Steblaj 1755 - ......... +??????? ..... 3 Ursula Steblaj 1757 - ......... +????????? . 2 Mathevs Steblaj 1720 - ..... +????

Hello Listers I am still seeking info on Sodja{Soda/Sodya/Sodia}/ Klemencic {Clemenich} families from Mackovec pri Suhorju, Slovenia. Judy Gallaway Sacramento, CA _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp

Looking for the family of Franc Joseph Pockaj born Dec, 1885 in Ostrozno Brdo. Parents are Anthony Pockaj & Ursala Vatovec. No dates on Parents Also looking for the family of Manda Pavlenic/Kaparic. born Sept 1855 to Michael Pavlenic and Dorthea Kaparic. Manda is believed to have marry Grgo Ostronic-parish is Bosiljevo in the village of Lipje. any help will be greatly appreciated; Patty [email protected]

Hi, Well I have finally found a new name to research, and I am hoping you nice folks will help me. After a year of searching, I have found My gr grandmothers name to be : URSALA VATOVEC she was married to my gr grandfather whos name was ANTHONY POCKAJ. I know you folks have seen the Pockaj name enough with me, and may I add, I have still not found a darn Pockaj yet!! Gr grandpap was from Ostrozno Brdo near Croatia. Please, if you know these names, ask them to contact me. Patty [email protected] ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

I am still looking for anyone reseaching these names. Ostronic, Pockaj, Pavlenic, Kaparic Novak/Novac [email protected]

Researching these names.