http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm Go to this web address. I have Bosilgrad already typed in. Click on the search button. This will bring up a list. There are two listings for Bosilgrad. Click on the "coordinates" and it will take you to a map at Mapquest. It is now a part of Bulgaria. If you zoom in or out it will give you a better idea of where it is located. Let me know if this helped. Remember that all these countries have been named and renamed over the years. You can also type Bosilgrad in Google search engine and read a little bit of history of this town. Mary http://communities.msn.com/Genealogy2000 [email protected] >From: Arlene Jorgensen <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: where is Bosilgrad >Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:37:05 -0500 > >I have been trying to find the city of Bosilgrad, Yugoslavia. My >grandmother was from >there, her name was Anna Kranje, born in 1884. She married my grandfather, >Karl Kiefer, who >was from Deutsch Landsberg, Austria. She had told me that she was from >Slovenia. Thanks, >Arlene J. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

I have been trying to find the city of Bosilgrad, Yugoslavia. My grandmother was from there, her name was Anna Kranje, born in 1884. She married my grandfather, Karl Kiefer, who was from Deutsch Landsberg, Austria. She had told me that she was from Slovenia. Thanks, Arlene J.

I am looking for email and postal service mailing addresses for any Gosar's in Slovenia. I would appreciate anyone who could supply me with them. Mary http://communities.msn.com/Genealogy2000 [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

I have updated the "Death Notice Index" page. I have also added two new pages. One is the "Tombstone Index" which is an index of the tombstones in Illinois and Wisconsin that I have photographed. I have also added a page called "LDS Search" which gives a detailed description of where to go to do a "place" search on the LDS web page. http://communities.msn.com/Genealogy2000 [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Hi Listers I am looking for information regarding the above family. They lived on a modest farm near the Mur river We are not sure exactly where but have been told that at age 16 Maria went across the border at Mureck to get work as a landgirl this was c1936. Her father was Rudolf Kranzelbinder andher mother was Marija JUK probably married c 1913. There was 8 children named Anna Maria Kristina Hilda Franzel Leopolda Helene Rudolf All born 1918 to 1938. Maria married Edgar Miller from Christchurch New Zealand after meeting him in a POW camp near Hofstatten. I would appreciate help on trying to find where Maria's family actually came from or how I go about searching thanks from downunder Glenis

windisch, as far as i know - is used for "slavic" and - was a part of krain (todays western part of slovenia)in the austro-hungarian empire. - e.g. windisch-bueheln, windisch-graetz, ... - windisch-graetz was also a noble family... - others are windisch-bleiberg (Slovenji Plajberk) in carintia (austria) - i found another page (german) which says that the origin of the word " windisch" was "veneter (venetien)" ...those from venezia... http://www.hausarbeiten.de/rd/archiv/geschichte/gesch-ethnogenese/gesch-ethnogenese.shtml - today "windisch" is also known as dialect from the krain-region. - there is also a site (in german)... http://members.mcnon.com/klaugerg/BG/Zeitung/1995/335/AuswDorf335.html ...mentioning windisch-minihof in burgenland (austria)inteh frontier area of austria, hngary, slovenia - from this village lots of people emmigrated. -i also found a village in switzerland called "windisch" regards, georg (graz/vienna) --- [email protected] wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822 > > SLOVENIA-D Digest Volume 01 : Issue 53 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: Where is Windisch ["d." > <[email protected]>] > #2 Re: Where is Windisch ["d." > <[email protected]>] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from SLOVENIA-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, > but if your software requires one, just use > unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > To contact the list administrator, send mail to > [email protected] > > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 18:27:25 +0200 > From: "d." <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Where is Windisch > > Obviously it was near Graz - Austria. > > Look at: > > http://www.angelfire.com/ne/hendrikrody/genaustria03.html > > > Have a nice day, > > daniela > from sLOVEnia > > > > > > > Connie Balazic wrote: > > > > Help. > > > > I found a first cousin whose mother, my mother's > sister, told her that she was Windisch and not > Slovene. My mother and sister came from the county > of Vas, Hungary, which became part of Prekmurje, > Slovenia after world War I. I have heard that the > Slovenes living in this part of Vas county Hungary > were called Windisch. > > > > I would like to know where the area of Windisch > was located prior to World War I and if it covered > areas of Austria as well as Hungary. Also does the > name have any significance today. > > > > Thank you all for any help. > > > > Joe > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 > Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 08:52:49 +0200 > From: "d." <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Where is Windisch > > I found this sites too: > > www.bogardi.com/gen/ > http://www.bogardi.com/gen/g104.shtml > http://157.238.45.41/cgi-bin/hn1913.cgi?place=vas > > > > > daniela > from sLOVEnia > > > > > > > > > Connie Balazic wrote: > > > > Help. > > > > I found a first cousin whose mother, my mother's > sister, told her that she was Windisch and not > Slovene. My mother and sister came from the county > of Vas, Hungary, which became part of Prekmurje, > Slovenia after world War I. I have heard that the > Slovenes living in this part of Vas county Hungary > were called Windisch. > > > > I would like to know where the area of Windisch > was located prior to World War I and if it covered > areas of Austria as well as Hungary. Also does the > name have any significance today. > > > > Thank you all for any help. > > > > Joe > ===== ------------------------------ Mag. Georg Strafella Franckstr. 14 8010 Graz / Austria phone: +43/676/6112635 mail: [email protected] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

I found this sites too: www.bogardi.com/gen/ http://www.bogardi.com/gen/g104.shtml http://157.238.45.41/cgi-bin/hn1913.cgi?place=vas daniela from sLOVEnia Connie Balazic wrote: > > Help. > > I found a first cousin whose mother, my mother's sister, told her that she was Windisch and not Slovene. My mother and sister came from the county of Vas, Hungary, which became part of Prekmurje, Slovenia after world War I. I have heard that the Slovenes living in this part of Vas county Hungary were called Windisch. > > I would like to know where the area of Windisch was located prior to World War I and if it covered areas of Austria as well as Hungary. Also does the name have any significance today. > > Thank you all for any help. > > Joe

Obviously it was near Graz - Austria. Look at: http://www.angelfire.com/ne/hendrikrody/genaustria03.html Have a nice day, daniela from sLOVEnia Connie Balazic wrote: > > Help. > > I found a first cousin whose mother, my mother's sister, told her that she was Windisch and not Slovene. My mother and sister came from the county of Vas, Hungary, which became part of Prekmurje, Slovenia after world War I. I have heard that the Slovenes living in this part of Vas county Hungary were called Windisch. > > I would like to know where the area of Windisch was located prior to World War I and if it covered areas of Austria as well as Hungary. Also does the name have any significance today. > > Thank you all for any help. > > Joe

Help. I found a first cousin whose mother, my mother's sister, told her that she was Windisch and not Slovene. My mother and sister came from the county of Vas, Hungary, which became part of Prekmurje, Slovenia after world War I. I have heard that the Slovenes living in this part of Vas county Hungary were called Windisch. I would like to know where the area of Windisch was located prior to World War I and if it covered areas of Austria as well as Hungary. Also does the name have any significance today. Thank you all for any help. Joe

Hi all! I saw Poldi's plea for help: From: Tree Mother: Sunday, July 22, 2001 5:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Can someone help me? I have contacted her directly. Regards to all, John L.

As can been seen, mail to John L. has been returned as a bad address or something. All I want is my passwork and ID to retrieve the latest Newsletter. If that is not possible perhaps the SGS will mail me a copy. Yes, I am a paid up member. Poldi ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 3:12 AM Subject: mail failed, returning to sender > |------------------------- Failed addresses follow: ---------------------| > <[email protected]> ... Unable to deliver after timeout(1d12h) - host retry file locked > |------------------------- Message text follows: ------------------------| > Received: from airmail.net from [209.196.79.189] by covert.black-ring.iadfw.net > (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.49) with esmtp sender: <[email protected]> > id <mS/[email protected]>; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 14:57:00 -0500 (CDT) > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 14:59:32 -0500 > From: Poldi Tonin <[email protected]> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD snapN45b1 (Win98; I) > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Need a key to the door > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Again I need password and ID. I have taped to my computer the following; > > ID: SGSi86 > Password: nekdaj > > If this is case sensitive I need to know that too. > Have too many passwords to remember. > Poldi Tonin > >

concerning the cemernik-request, i just found a document on the www, mentioning a mountain called "cemernik" in the former yugoslavia. if it's from interest just visit the www.google.com site and search for "cemernik" you will find the following site-address: http://www.novum.co.yu/rotary/revants/seaconf/invit.htm ...hit the "cache"-button (because it's an old document)and you'll get the document. maybe the cemernik-mountain has something to do with yout grandfather's aunt!?? it's just an attempt, i thought it might be a possibility. georg strafella [email protected] ===== ------------------------------ Mag. Georg Strafella Franckstr. 14 8010 Graz / Austria phone: +43/676/6112635 mail: [email protected] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Is this the same as Camernik? I have some info about John Camernik of Waukegan Illinois. Mary http://communities.msn.com/Genealogy2000 >From: Paul Kronfield <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Grandfather found! Franc Cemernik of Podgorci >Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:29:01 -0500 > >Doing wildcard searches on the Ellis Island site, I finally >located my paternal grandfather, Franc Cemernik. >He was born in 1875 in Podgorci. Served 8 years in >Austro-Hungarian Empire army, most of which was >stationed in Triest. Last residence was listed in >immigration records as "Asling", but the closest place I >could find was "Assling". > http://communities.msn.com/Genealogy2000 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Doing wildcard searches on the Ellis Island site, I finally located my paternal grandfather, Franc Cemernik. He was born in 1875 in Podgorci. Served 8 years in Austro-Hungarian Empire army, most of which was stationed in Triest. Last residence was listed in immigration records as "Asling", but the closest place I could find was "Assling". Half brother to Josef Kronfieldt, also born in Podgorci. Franc married Theresa Korosic (born in Arnoldstein in 1886) in the U.S. Theresa's family (father Franc Korosic, mother Marija Kudla) moved from Arnoldstein to Stein, Slovenia. I understand Stein was not far from Podgorci. Someone has suggested that Podgorci has been renamed "Kamnik". I would like to find out anything about my grandfathers parents and ancestors. Also, I understand Franc Cemernik was the only living relative of a wealthy aunt who tried to pass her estate (included a mountaintop and castle) on to Franc on her death in 1936. Her executors could not locate Franc in the U.S. Any information provided me on my paternal grandfather and grandmother and their ancestors, will be greatly appreciated and rewarded! Paul Kronfield Houston Texas [email protected]

Hi Everybody, I have added a new page to my site. It is a death notice index for the obituaries, holy cards, memorial cards and news articles I have in my possession. The individuals lived in the Waukegan & Lake County, Willard/Greenwood Wisconsin and various other areas of the country. Many were members of the Waukegan and Willard Slovenian Communities. Please feel free to contact me if any are of interest to you or if you have any that could be added to this collection. Mary http://communities.msn.com/Genealogy2000 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 7:01 PM Subject: SLOVENIA-D Digest V01 #45

Hi Phyllis, > Can anyone translate the following? > > v prilogi Vam posiljamo porocni list stev 613/0 s > popravkom in se Vam opravicujemo za napako, ki je > nastala pri prepisu porocnega lista. Enclosed we send you marry list number 613/0 with correction. We apologize to you for mistake, we did in marriage list. > Glede informacij o vojaski sluzbi vasega starega > oceta, pa se boste morali obrniti na vojaski > arhiv na Dunaju. The information related to your grand's father job in the army you'll need to ask the Army Archive in Wiena: > Zelimo vse dobro in lepo posdravljamo! We wish you all the best! And so do I, daniela from sLOVEnia

Hi, I'm having a hard time finding my Grandmother name, maybe someone on your list could help me. The information I have is from my grandparents immigration papers and word of mouth. They didn't apply for citizenship until the 1940's. They came to the US in 1913. On the papers it is written Bosilgrad, Yugoslavia, for my grandmother. I found the spelling of KRANJE on those papers. She said to me that she was Slovenian (excuse spelling) and that she could speak 5 languages, one of them Italian. I was told my grandfather was from Austria but on all papers Germany is written. My grandparents left all family in the old country and came to US with my father who was an infant and an only child. I did get an email that said that there is no Bosilgrad in Yugoslavia. My father did say that they where from those countries and that the borders had changed. I was told that the name Kranje is VERY Slovenian or maybe Croatian and that you would never find je ending in German. Ellis Island has their ethnicity as Austria, German and place of residence as Deutsch Landsberg, Austria. I always thought that sense Slovenia and Austria are so close that maybe they lived in border towns. They were married in 1906. My grandfather worked in a match factory. Port of departure was Bremen, Germany. My grandfather's family name was KIEFER. I figure that if I keep posting, someday I will find something. My sister and I, along with our husbands would like to visit Europe in about five years. Its would be nice to have a few places to check out. Thank you for your effort. Arlene

Hi Arlene- Don't know if this will help you but.... you need to search Austro-Hungarian Empire; Yugoslavia in and of itself didn't exist at the time of their immigration. Ethnically,the people of the empire were Austrian,German,and Slovenian (and probably others), languages spoken Italian,German,Slovenian, etc. I've had to "figure this out" searching for my own ancestors--get's confusing. You might also try searching Carniola--was a province of the empire from whence many of the emigrants came. Off the top of my head, I can't call it to mind, but there is a web site than converts "new" place names to the "old" ones. Good luck- Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: Arlene Jorgensen <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 9:42 AM Subject: Kranje surname > Hi, > > I'm having a hard time finding my Grandmother name, maybe someone on > your list could help me. > > The information I have is from my grandparents immigration papers > and word of mouth. They didn't apply for citizenship until the 1940's. > They came to the US in 1913. On the papers it is written Bosilgrad, > Yugoslavia, for my grandmother. I found the spelling of KRANJE on those > papers. She said to me that she was Slovenian (excuse spelling) and > that she could speak 5 languages, one of them Italian. I was told my > grandfather was from Austria but on all papers Germany is written. My > grandparents left all family in the old > country and came to US with my father who was an infant and an only > child. > > I did get an email that said that there is no Bosilgrad in > Yugoslavia. My father did say that they where from those countries and > that the borders had changed. I was told that the name Kranje is VERY > Slovenian or maybe Croatian and that you would never find je ending in > German. > > Ellis Island has their ethnicity as Austria, German and place of > residence as Deutsch Landsberg, Austria. I > always thought that sense Slovenia and Austria are so close that maybe > they lived in border towns. They were married in 1906. My grandfather > worked in a match factory. Port of departure was Bremen, Germany. My > grandfather's family name was KIEFER. > > I figure that if I keep posting, someday I will find something. My > sister and I, along with our husbands > would like to visit Europe in about five years. Its would be nice to > have a few places to check out. > > Thank you for your effort. Arlene >

Would like to find and communicate with VATOVEC Family in Ostrozno Brdo 4, Slovenia. I have written a letter to the family, but apparently English is not spoken. Ursula Vatovec(1848) is my grgrandmother. She was married to Anton Pockaj. Their son Franc Pockaj came to the U.S. in 1906 and was 28 yrs old then. I would love to have the oppertunity to meet this family and communicate by letters if possible, and learn about my grgrandmother.I believe all children where born in house #33 in Ostrozno Brdo. Her brothers and sisters were: Marija Vatovec 1844-1940 Franciska Vatovec 1846-? Jose Vatovec 1851-? Patty