Please contact the Moquah Voice for more information about these individuals, not me, for I do not know them. I am just forwarding the information to this list in hopes of helping others find their relatives and ancestors. The Moquah Heritage Society has been organized for about 20 years and their publication, the Ethnic Voice, now comes out quarterly. The families mentioned are usually from Bayfield county, sometimes from Ashland county. Most of the ethnicity seems to be Slovene, with some Croatian, and some other. The Ethnic Voice 27630 County C Washburn, WI 54891 715) 373-5868 e-mail [email protected] [email protected] Washburn is on Chequamegon Bay of Lake Superior. Moquah is in the blue hills about 30 miles south of there. All of it is beautiful country. Ashley summarized from the spring 2002 issue of the Voice: In Memoriam VLASTY WHITE, Esther, aged 96, in TX. Daughter of Jacob and Mary HALJAK VLASTY. STROHMEYER PEZDERIC, Cecilia, aged 75, Ashland. KERTZ MADOLE, Leona, aged 80, Milwaukee. Daughter of Joseph and Amalia MURARIK KERTZ. MARITA FRANCHEK, Katherine, aged 67, Ashland. PUSKARICH HABAS, Mary C., aged 93, at home. Daughter of Matt and Agnes CINDRICH PUSKARICH. ANICH, Thomas M., aged 83, at home. Son of Matt and Cecilia DEVCIC ANICH. VLASTY, Paul, aged 76, Mason. Son of Jacob and Mary HALJAK VLASTY. LETKO, Rudolph J., aged 84, Ashland. Son of George and Mary Ann DRABIK LETKO. KLOBUCHER, Thomas, aged 71, Ashland. Son of John and Mary SPOLAR KLOBUCHAR. [ transcribing spelling as printed in the Voice ] This editon of the Voice includes a cover article on Lidice and the massacre by a Wisconsin student at the University in Prague, an article about surviving the Depression by hunting roots and trapping moles [ the moles brought 5 cents per skinned and dried pelt ], and about moonshining in the northern counties during the 20's and 30's. --

Hi, I'm new to this list. I'm trying to research my family history and I've hit a bit of a roadblock with the last name Gorza. I was able to find two of my ancestors on the Ellis Island Immigration page but now I seem to be stuck. I have Adam Gorza born about 1881 in Marokret, Hungary. I know he was married to someone named Mary but I don't know her last name. They had a daughter Anna who was born on July 20, 1906 in Markovoi, Slovenia. I know they had at least one other daughter, Christina but I don't know anything about her. Awhile back I posted to a message board and a couple people responded back that these places don't exist or at least don't exist anymore. Does anyone know about any Gorza's? Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance. ===== --Brian Bergin -- [email protected] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/

SKRABAN, Theresa 1888-1967 Murska Sobota YUG (Slovenia)>NorthamptonCO, Bethlehem PA USA KOVACS, Joseph 1886-1965 Austria/HUN>NorthamptonCO, Bethlehem PA USA KOVACH, KOVACS: James born Veszprem Megye area in HUN, a farmer. Believe his wife's maiden name was NEMETH. There were at least two children: Joseph 1886-1965 and Mary. Mary married and stayed in Hungary.Joseph came to the USA early 1900's.He later switch surname spelling from Kovach to Kovacs. Joseph's wife: Terezija M. SKRABAN 1888-1967 Murska Sobota, YUG (Slovenia) Her mother's maiden name was SIFTAR, father was Joseph SKRABAN Theresa's birth certificate listed her parents as farmers. The certificate shows the address as Strukovci st.21. If the translation from her birth certificate is correct, her godparents were Stefan GYERJEK and Lajos SINIC. I have no info on them but their names. Children of Joseph and Theresa Kovacs: 1. Joseph, Jr: 1909-1942 spouse Reiter 2. Katherine: 1912-1978 spouse Konya 3. Frank: 1915-1965 spouse Grabar 4. James: 1916-1937 5. Alex: 1919-1969 spouse Scheirer 6. Stephen: 1922-1979 spouse Schwartz 7. Mary: 1924-1937 8. John: 1926-1992 spouse Romig 9. Charles: 1928-1999 spouse Schrantz 10. William It is believed Terezija had relatives living in Carbon CO, Palmerton area. According to his birth certificate, the eldest son was born in Carbon CO. I have no paperwork but believe he was also baptized in Palmerton. If anyone has any additions or corrections, please contact me privately. Thank you Take care Genie Marie [email protected] http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5238/ Kovacs, Skraban, Siftar - Schwartz, Urban - Evans, Williams, Eustis

----- Original Message ----- From: gerdemanbunch To: SLOVENIA- STURMARK Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 9:55 PM Subject: Is there Dear Admin, Is there anyone else on this list ? I have ask a ? and have not received a answer yet? So here we go a gone I am looking for a Vladimir Sober Born June 1931 father`s name Emmerch Sober from Slovenia (Slovenija). The town I do not know right now. Any help would be great John Gerdeman Lost in Germany

Sorry . . . meant to send to list. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Laurie" <[email protected]> To: "gerdemanbunch" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 4:37 PM Subject: Re: Is there > I just joined. I'm looking for Jozef KRIZNIK'S family from near Zagorje. > > Sandy > Jamestown, PA, USA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gerdemanbunch" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 2:29 PM > Subject: Re: Is there > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: gerdemanbunch > > To: SLOVENIA- STURMARK > > Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 9:55 PM > > Subject: Is there > > > > > > Dear Admin, Is there anyone else on this list ? I have ask a ? and have > not received a answer yet? > > > > So here we go a gone I am looking for a Vladimir Sober Born June 1931 > father`s name Emmerch Sober from Slovenia (Slovenija). > > The town I do not know right now. > > Any help would be great > > > > John Gerdeman > > Lost in Germany > > > > >

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Can not help you George with your family but I do have some information on Ribnica. This from the travel book, Slovenia, by Lonely Planet books. "Ribnica is the oldest and most important settlement of Western Dolenjska (one of the 8 regions of Slovenia) and just over the hills from the border with Notranjska, people in this region have traditionally affiliated with neither province. As far as they are concerned, this is Kocevsko, a forested, sparsely inhabited area with a unique history. Ribnica is 16km north-west of the town of Kocevje, another gateway to Kocevski Rog and on highway No 6 to the Croatian port of Rijeka. The town lies in the Ribnica Valley sandwiched between two ridges called Velika Gora and Mala Gora. The main street, Skrabcev trg, lies on the east bank of the tiny Bistrica River and runs parallel to it. Population 3300." Gorena Vas is not in my book, could there be another spelling? Hope this helps some. I could send you a scan copy of a map if it will help. Georgea Sharkey [email protected]

Dear Friends, I would like to communicate with anyone who may be researching or familiar with the Lusin (Lusen/Lusan/Lausin) name. Jacob Lusin came to the US from Slovenia in 1891. He married Agnes Merhar in Cleveland Ohio, and they raised their family and lived out their lives in the Cleveland area. One piece of information says he was from Gorena Vas Slovenia, and another says the locality was Ribnici Slovenia. I have two questions: 1. Can someone provide some information as to where these two localities are located in Slovenia? 2. I understand he was born July 20th 1864 or 1865. Can someone advise how I might locate his Slovenian birth or baptism record? Sincerely, George Hoyt Yorba Linda, CA

Try to go by http://www.ryanair.com/index.html from London to Graz/Austria for £ 39, which is new now. It is easy then to go by train to Maribor/Slovenia and further. Walter -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Patricia Moore [mailto:[email protected]] Gesendet: Sonntag, 24. Februar 2002 04:55 An: [email protected] Betreff: Ticket advice Can anyone give me any good advise on airline tickets for best price to Slovenia. I live in St Louis, MO, and I was advised to maybe go first to England, then on to Slovenia. We are wanting to purchase 3 tickets for this Aug, and now the price appears to be abt. 1,300.00 each. [email protected] Pat ______________________________

Hi Ron, 'Geboren' is the German word for 'born'. It's used like 'nee' in English to indicate a woman's maiden name, and is often abbreviated 'geb.'. Hope this helps, Susan Researching DURICS and GUITMAN in Battyanfalva (Rakicsan) Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] >I've received a copy of my grandfather's baptismal certificate from the archives at Maribor. I've been able to translate everything except an abbreviation in my great-grandmother's name. Her married surname was Bezgovsek while her maiden name was Pozin. On the certificate section for mother of the child she is listed as: "Antonia geb. Pozin". Does anyone know what the "geb." is an abbreviation for? I have four different baptismal certificates and two of the four have this abbreviation in the mother's maiden name while two do not. Is this like saying "Antonia Bezgovsek nee Pozin" in English? Thanks, Ron Pozin <

I do so hope that one of the listers will see this and be able to claim these certificates, etc. If they are not your family please pass this message along to others with the name who may be related. Poldi Tonin Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 4:23 PM Subject: Missing Links, Vol. 7, No. 8 o I have the following death certificates from Cleveland, Ohio for people who are not my relatives. -- Joseph ZUPANCIC, born 23 February 1869 in Yugoslavia and died 4 April 1934 -- Joseph ZUPANCIC, born 1875 in Yugoslavia and died on 10 September 1930 -- Joseph ZUPANCIC, born 19 March 1891 in Yugoslavia and died 25 March 1929 -- Esther ROSE, born in Resoff, Hungary, October 1862 and died 12 November 1921 I have two SSI applications that do not belong to my family. -- Peter Jacob KLEMMER born 2 September 1907 in Albany, Minnesota; mother is Theresia KALLA and father is Peter KLEMMER. -- Peter Simon KLEMMER, born 26 September 1893 in Chicago, Illinois; mother is Mary LARDY and father was Peter KLEMMER. I would like to give these documents to relatives. I will be happy to mail them or scan them. Please put the name of the person in the subject line when enquiring. Cathy Klemmer [email protected] * * * * *

I've received a copy of my grandfather's baptismal certificate from the archives at Maribor. I've been able to translate everything except an abbreviation in my great-grandmother's name. Her married surname was Bezgovsek while her maiden name was Pozin. On the certificate section for mother of the child she is listed as: "Antonia geb. Pozin". Does anyone know what the "geb." is an abbreviation for? I have four different baptismal certificates and two of the four have this abbreviation in the mother's maiden name while two do not. Is this like saying "Antonia Bezgovsek nee Pozin" in English? Thanks, Ron Pozin

Ed, I was reading a small book called Slovenia put out by Lonely Planet (www.lonelyplanet.com) which is actually a travel book but gives some history. An excerpt below on why your family probably left Slovenia at that time. "The 19th Century and the decade before WWI were marked by economic development for the ruling classes - the railroad from Vienna to Ljubljana opened in 1849, industrial companies were formed at Kranj and Trbovlje, and a mill began operating at Ajdovscina. However, material conditions declined for the peasantry, whose traditional sources of income were being eroded. Between 1850 and 1910, more than 300,000 Slovenes - 56% of the population - emigrated to other countries." Recommend this book to any one interested in Slovenia! Georgea Sharkey [email protected]

Flying into Austria or Germany is another option. My daughter lives in southern Germany and goes to Slovenia by train. For bargains try bestfares.com or travelocity.com and see what they have available. Special bargain fares ($350 to $450 roundtrip) to many European cities must by purchased by February 28. maureen -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Moore [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 9:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Ticket advice Can anyone give me any good advise on airline tickets for best price to Slovenia. I live in St Louis, MO, and I was advised to maybe go first to England, then on to Slovenia. We are wanting to purchase 3 tickets for this Aug, and now the price appears to be abt. 1,300.00 each. [email protected] Pat

Can anyone give me any good advise on airline tickets for best price to Slovenia. I live in St Louis, MO, and I was advised to maybe go first to England, then on to Slovenia. We are wanting to purchase 3 tickets for this Aug, and now the price appears to be abt. 1,300.00 each. [email protected] Pat

You can find out more about the Genealogy conference held in Slovenia and view selected articles on: http://www2.arnes.si/~krsrd1/conference/gradivo.htm We will try to organize the conference every other year - so next one is planned for 2003. Regards, Lea Benedejcic ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Schoch & Peggy Smerkar" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:57 PM Subject: Genealogy > Hi I am new to this site. I read something that sounded as if there > is a Slovenian gen.convention in Slovenia. If so, is it an annual event? > what date? Can someone give me the details? I am researching the SMREKAR > name. Mathias Smrekar (b. 1830) came from Crnomelj in 1853 and settled > in Fryburg, PA where many of his descendants still live. Can someone > help me pronounce Crnomelj? Thanks, Peggy Smrekar >

Hi all, My 3.g grandfather Alphons Eder left Lljubljana in about a1856 and went to London. Can anyone advise of any major reasons for emigaration at that time, as his younger brother also left Slovenia at about the same time. and what route is the most likely that he would have taken ? by rail to trieste and then by boat- or overland over the alps to Austria and then down through Germany and so on. The lack of English language books on the social history of Slovenia and its inhabitants is a big drawback in finding this kind of information. Any suggestions and even wild guesses would be welcome. Cheers..Ed

Hi I am new to this site. I read something that sounded as if there is a Slovenian gen.convention in Slovenia. If so, is it an annual event? what date? Can someone give me the details? I am researching the SMREKAR name. Mathias Smrekar (b. 1830) came from Crnomelj in 1853 and settled in Fryburg, PA where many of his descendants still live. Can someone help me pronounce Crnomelj? Thanks, Peggy Smrekar

hi all, I have some baptism certificates from the Diocesan Archives in Lljubljana relating to baptisms taking place in the church of St. Jakob. these tookplvce between 1832 and 1839. Frome this I assumed that the parents were Catholic. However a census of 1857 shows the religion of the family members as being a variety of sects ! The father is shown as "evangelisch" a daughter as "lutherisch" another daughter and a son as "reformiert" and the youngest daughter as "katholisch". I appreciate that the children were free to choose a religion as adults- but it seems strange that the father was presumably a Lutheran and yet he had three children baptised in the catholic church. Any comments please ? Cheers..Ed

In reading some of the microfilmed baptismal church records in Slovenia and Croatia, I have these questions. I keep running across the term "Cooperator" or an abbreviation thereof. This term invariably is under a name found in the column heading "Baptizans" with the subheading of "Nomen." The filled in information contain a name and the Cooperator term which are repeated for long periods of time, entry after entry. Is this simply the name of the person recording the entries? Secondly at the end of the entries, there is a column headed Patrinl which I know means godparents. Under this heading are two subheading with Nomen (which I know is for the names of the godparents) and CONDITIO. Under the latter, the box is usually signed by the same person repeatedly, many times by a woman. What does this box represent? For some baptism entries, there appears a written-in date in the left margin. The date is always years after the baptism date. I believe this is the date of death. Does anyone know if this is correct? Lastly, does anyone know what the baptism custom was in Croatia in say the 1800s? Finding the actual birth date seems to be quite an issue. Did the baptisms typically occur shortly after birth? I would appreciate your help in better understanding these types of entries. Dick Puz