This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: oinker124 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.slovenia.general/6573/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to piece together some information on my great great grandparents. Their names are John (Janez) Klobuchar and Ursula Kochevar. John was born September 19, 1882 somewhere in Austro-Hungary. He immigrated to the US in about 1901. He married Ursula in about 1906-08, probably in Calumet Michigan. They show up on the census in Calumet in 1910. Race is Slovenian. John died in a mining accident in the Spruce Mine in Eveleth, Minnesota on Oct. 22, 1919. Ursula was born Oct. 20, 1888 in Austro-Hungary. Her naturalization papers say her last residence was Stopicia or Stopieia. She immigrated in 1906 from Bremen. She had a brother Anton who also lived in Eveleth. She died in 1963 in Eveleth. Any information or tips on researching this line would be greatly appreciated. Levi Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hve you had contact with the Klobuchars from MN or where are you located? Jean -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: SLOVENIA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, Oct 25, 2010 6:03 pm Subject: [SLOVENIA] Klobucar(Klobuchar) and Kocevar(Kochevar or Hocevar or Hoeevar) This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: oinker124 urnames: lassification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.slovenia.general/6573/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to piece together some information on my great great grandparents. heir names are John (Janez) Klobuchar and Ursula Kochevar. John was born eptember 19, 1882 somewhere in Austro-Hungary. He immigrated to the US in bout 1901. He married Ursula in about 1906-08, probably in Calumet Michigan. hey show up on the census in Calumet in 1910. Race is Slovenian. John died in mining accident in the Spruce Mine in Eveleth, Minnesota on Oct. 22, 1919. rsula was born Oct. 20, 1888 in Austro-Hungary. Her naturalization papers say er last residence was Stopicia or Stopieia. She immigrated in 1906 from remen. She had a brother Anton who also lived in Eveleth. She died in 1963 in veleth. Any information or tips on researching this line would be greatly ppreciated. Levi Important Note: he author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like o reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond n the board. ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SLOVENIA-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Perhaps you contact the archive of diocese of Styria (province of Austria, the southern part belongs since 1918 to Slovenia): http://www.graz-seckau.at/dioezesanarchiv/index.php There is also list of the parish-records online: http://www.graz-seckau.at/dioezesanarchiv/Matrikenkatalog2010.doc -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: slovenia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:slovenia-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von Kathy Patrick Gesendet: Sonntag, 24. Oktober 2010 21:13 An: SLOVENIA@rootsweb.com Betreff: [SLOVENIA] Slovenian Parishes in Austria I am searching for names of Slovenian parishes whose records maybe held in Austria. I believe I read there are a few of these. I think this happened when the borders were drawn after WWI. I am not able to locate my Grandfathers birth record and do not know where he was born. I have reason to believe he was near Graz but born in Slovenia. Any ideas? "She is insane, of course. The family history has become a mania for her." Hercule Poirot ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SLOVENIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RosemariePoyer57 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.slovenia.general/6572.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This is her. She married Andrew Poje (Poyer) soon after she arrived in America. She had five children two died in a fire. Sometime after 1925 or around this time she left. No one was sure where she went. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I am searching for names of Slovenian parishes whose records maybe held in Austria. I believe I read there are a few of these. I think this happened when the borders were drawn after WWI. I am not able to locate my Grandfathers birth record and do not know where he was born. I have reason to believe he was near Graz but born in Slovenia. Any ideas? "She is insane, of course. The family history has become a mania for her." Hercule Poirot

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RobertJerin Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.slovenia.general/6572.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This may be your Mary UDOVIC arriving in the US. First Name: Marija Last Name: Udovic Ethnicity: Austrian, Slovenian Last Place of Residence: Nuec, Austria Next of kin - father Johan Date of Arrival: Nov 01, 1911 Age at Arrival: 17y Gender: F Marital Status: S Ship of Travel: Oceania Port of Departure: Trieste Manifest Line Number: 0006 Destination to sister Therse HOCEVAR at St Michael - South Fork PA Someone else is researching POJE in Cambria County PA you will find her link at http://www.camgenpa.com/Surnames/_prgs/surnSurname.php?sur=P#POJE Did Mary marry someone else? Robert Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RobertJerin Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.slovenia.general/6571.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi 7twocs1 Names were NOT ENTERED anywhere when immigrants arrived in the US, the manifest was created at the Port of Departure with info taken from passports the immigrant obtained in their homeland. I can not seem to find Joseph and Juliana KATZ in the KC census but I do find a Joseph and Sophia. Is this your family? Robert Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RobertJerin Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.slovenia.general/6571.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The place is not Podorh it is Podvrh, pod under or below and vrh meaning hill Robert Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Mohnbauer Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.slovenia.general/6571.4.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: for Slovenia the name is Potica. best to find in english about google - some variants to find. "Povitica, or Croatian walnut bread, is a nostalgic favorite of many Eastern Europeans and their descendants. Also known as Orehnjaca (walnut bread) and Makovnjaca (poppy seed bread) in Croatia, Povitica is a favorite of many other neighboring cultures. Known also as Potica in Slovenia, Orechovnik in Slovakia and Strudla in Serbian, recipes vary from region to region and family to family." http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-povitica.htm Potica-google http://www.google.at/search?hl=de&rlz=1G1GGLQ_DEAT361&q=Potica recipe&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= Povitica-google http://homecooking.about.com/od/breadrecipes/r/blbread88.htm http://www.google.at/search?hl=de&rlz=1G1GGLQ_DEAT361&q=Povitica recipe&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= in austria named Potitze/Potize Potitze(austrian)-google http://www.google.at/search?source=ig&hl=de&rlz=1G1GGLQ_DEAT361&=&q=Potitze&aq=f&aqi=g2&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= i know it from austrian Styria for best with walnuts. very good!!! http://www.ichkoche.at/Nusspotitze/rezepte/detail/html/13935?preview=false in austrian Carinthia simple with cacao and raisins named Reinling original made in a Reinl/Reindl: http://www.vko.at/assets/images/reindl_400.jpg Reinling-google http://www.google.at/search?hl=de&rlz=1G1GGLQ_DEAT361&q=Reinling&aq=f&aqi=g-s1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: brandonnodnarb Surnames: zakrajshek Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.slovenia.general/313.339.452.918.1517.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: to Cyndy: my grandmother is Mary Ann - which is Matilda's sister. I've become quite interested in my family history recently. You should also check out the Triller's line (Mary Ann and Matilda's grandmother). If you still check this board, we should combine notes. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RosemariePoyer57 Surnames: Udovic/Poje Classification: death Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.slovenia.general/6572/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to find a Mary Udovic(Udovich) who came to america from Unec Slovenia around 1910. She married Andrew Poyer (POje)in 1911. She lived in Lloydell pa. No record of her after 1925. May have moved to new york. She had four children. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 7twocs1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.slovenia.general/6571.4.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks all for your help...this sometimes (most of the time) is a little confusing. On another note: anyone have an authentic recipe for Povitica. Steve Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 7twocs1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.slovenia.general/6571.4.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Mohnbauer Thanks for the info and photos. As far as them actually being German or Jewish I do know from conversations with my grandfather they identified with Slovenian nationality. I do suppose that decent could be one of the three or various parts. Josef/Joseph Katz, my gr-grandfather, remarried after Juliana Zager, his wife, died around the mid to late teens (1914-1919). He then married Sophia Novak who was Josef's best friend's sister. I think that they were friends from the old county. Anyway, thanks again Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 7twocs1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.slovenia.general/6571.4.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: isuzu97 Thanks again...I have tried to cross the what might be the various spellings/translations/what it might sound like with Ellis Island records. I can't seem to find any with destinations of Kansas. I do think you have helped me with the Zager/Zagar part because of Juliana's destination. Thanks again for your help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 7twocs1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.slovenia.general/6571.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks again Tina Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Mohnbauer Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.slovenia.general/6571.4.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Obergras - Trava old pictures: http://wwwu.uni-klu.ac.at/hleustik/gottschee/land/pfarren/bilder/obergras-ki01.jpg http://wwwu.uni-klu.ac.at/hleustik/gottschee/land/pfarren/bilder/obergras-ki01h.jpg old maps: http://wwwu.uni-klu.ac.at/hleustik/gottschee/land/pfarren/bilder/suchental01.jpg http://wwwu.uni-klu.ac.at/hleustik/gottschee/land/gebiete/bilder/suchental10.jpg Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Mohnbauer Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.slovenia.general/6571.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: in fact his name could have been simple also Katz in Slovenia. that time crownland Krain/Carniola of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire. Katz and Zager are german names and also often usual jewish names. that time also many jews lived in that region, but they more settled in the east of the country. otherwise Trava is just in, in fact at border-region of the Gottschee/Kocevje-area a very old german settlement that time. Gottschee-resettlers-list of time of WW2 has also Zager/Zagar. Zagar Magdalena Zagar Maria Zagar Friedrich Zagar Friedrich Zagar Anna Zagar Katharina Zager Maria Zager Irma Zager Hilde http://www.gottschee.de/ click on the blue book and take in first row (Nachname)the Z and you will find them. of sure that some of them were related. itŽs not always easy to locate the places they came from as some destroyed and the other have now slovenian names.Trava is an old Gottschee-place and was named Obergras in german. and it is next to Cabar on border to Croatia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trava,_Loski_Potok http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loski_Potok http://maps.google.at/maps?hl=de&=&q=Trava, Loski Potok 1319, Slowenien&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: isuzu97 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.slovenia.general/6571.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In March 1758 the tax documents for Poljanc- today's Dolenji Potok listed names uncommon to the Kostel district, among them Katze. from "History of Kostel 1500-1900 Between Two Civilizations" by Stanislav Juznic, Ph.D. Dolenji Potok is about 10-15 miles southeast of Trava near the old market town of Kostel. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Tina_PS Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.slovenia.general/6571.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is a Joze Zagar living in Podvrh near Osilnica today. But there are several places called Podvrh in Slovenia. I hope this one really is the right one. As far as the Katz "variables" go, there is noone by that surname living around Draga (the first larger place near Trava) today. Though, if I look through last names appearing in the region, your Katz could maybe be Kec (in a place called Lazec), Keser or Klepac (in Podpreska), Kek (in Spodnja Draga). Who knows what was actually said in Ellis island and what was actually written down... With a little imagination, anything's possible. T I N A Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 7twocs1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.slovenia.general/6571.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: incitatus Thank you...this might be correct. My grandfather said that he remembers the he was told that his mother Juliana Zager and his father Josef (joseph) Katz (maybe Kac) were married in Kansas City but had grew up in Slovenia (Austria) just over the hill from each other. If he was from Trava and she was from Podvrh then it looks like it can only be a few miles apart. I do know that Juliana came to the US in 1912 to meet up with her sister (in-law?) in Kansas City who had arrived in 1905. Thanks again, Steve Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.