The LDS has filmed all census for Slovakia, but the cataloging process is slow. They are progressing from East to West across the country. They are working on the middle region now. Remember, it's up to each present-day country to authorize their release to the LDS. Case in point, neither the Czech republic nor Ukraine will allow it, hence these census will not show up at the LDS in our lifetimes. I believe, but not certain that former SZREM is in either Slovenia or Croatia. See http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/vmlista.htm for the old county maps. SZEREM is at the bottom of the map in green color. Beware, all the names are in Magyar (Hungarian). Here http://parizs.tripod.com/trianon/trianonterkep.html is a map about how Hungary was broken apart at the end of WW1, via the Treaty of Trianon. Remember, after 1989, Yugoslavia was futher split up into new countries. See, you shouldn't have slept through high school history!!! :) Bill Tarkulich -----Original Message----- From: Marlene Norton [mailto:marlene_norton@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 9:58 AM To: bill@iabsi.com; SLOVAKIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Magyar (Hungarian) Census / Slovakia I may not always be learning more about my familiy but I am certainly learning. I think I'm adicted. I checked out the LDS site about this 1869 census. Would any of the films include SZEREM county? I'm not sure but I think that's where the Slovak side of my family is from. Since that was considered part of the Hungarian Empire in 1869, maybe there is something to be found in this census. --- Bill Tarkulich <bill@iabsi.com> wrote: > For those interested in the 1869 Hungarian (Magyar) > Census, as it > applies to Slovakia: > > > Magyar (Hungarian) Census > > Several Magyar (Hungarian) Censuses were conducted by > the Kingdom of > Hungary, Austria-Hungary Empire. The most complete > census was performed > in 1869. Each village is enumerated, organized by house number. Each > house is described by the number of rooms, doors, > windows, floors, barns > and other outbuildings. Listed are each occupant's > name, birth date, > birth place, occupation, religion, ethnicity, literacy, > and other items. > Also included is a detailed inventory of livestock, > probably their most > valued asset. The census was written in Hungarian. It > is quite simple > for a reader fluent in any language to read these films, > as they are > tabular: name, birth date, religion, etc. A census > overview and reading > tips can be found at: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/7347/Centips2.html > The tricky part is that most village names had Magyar > (Hungarian) names, > quite a bit different from the Slovak place names in use today. > Lucky for us, the Mormon's Family History Center (FHC) > has filmed the > entire 1869 census (I can only speak for present-day > Slovakia). > Luckier still, the Mormon's have indexed the census by > present-day place > name, with a parenthetical reference to the old > Hungarian place name. > Here's how to find the census at the FHC. Note that > only the VILLAGE > NAME INDEX will be found online. You will need to visit > the FHC to > request and view the films containing the census. Go to > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp > Search > under "Hungary" (it covers Slovakia, formerly part of > the > Austro-Hungarian Empire). There are several, but the > 1869 is the only > complete census. > > Title: Népszámlálás, 1869 > Authors: Magyar Statisztikai Hivatal (Main Author) > > Notes: Az eredeti iratok mikrofilmrevétele Budapesten a Magyar > Országos Levéltárban történt. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > 1869 census of Zemplén County, Hungary, which is > divided now between > Slovakia and Hungary. Places are listed here > alphabetically according to > the original Hungarian place name. Modern Slovak names > (or sometimes > modern Hungarian names) are in the parenthesis. > > For more information and a preview of the census forms, > see > http://www.iabsi.com/gen/public/CensusMain.htm > > Bill Tarkulich > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com