Bill, Thanks very much. As always - much good information. My GF was born in 1891, arrived US in 1904. Declaration of Intent and naturalization papers filled out by him list place of birth as Almas. So - circa 1891-1904, it was known to him as Almas. Since he listed last place of residence as Luka (or Lucka), I will continue on hunch that any Almas with a nearby Luka will offer best bet. Thanks again! Bill > Knowing the year the village was cited is important > Jablonov was called 1863-1902 Almas; 1907-1913 Szepesalmas,1920+ > Jablonov, spis county > Jablonov nad Turnou was called 1888-1902 Almas; 1907-1913 Szadalmas; > 1945-48 - Jablonov Nad Turnou; abov county > Jablonovce - Also/Felso-Almas 1863-1913; nont. County; > Jablonove 1863-1907 Almas, bratislava cty > > Luka - , Vagluka 1913, but generally called Luka thorughout all time, > Nitra county > > You can check the FHC for records online (titles only) at > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp > Make sure you search on present day names only. > Films are being released from east to west. Right now, they're > finishing up the Presov region, Nitra will be last. If its not at the > LDS FHC, you'll need to write to the regional archives. If as you say, > it's near Levoca, the regional archives is right there. Here are the > details on how to write > http://feefhs.org/frl/czs/dg-arch.html > > Re On another issue - have had absolutely no luck identifying > > arrival of my GM, Anna Pastircak to the U.S. > It's probably badly, badly mangled. Try to discover other names or > relatives from the same village and follow them along, including who > they went to stay with, then search further for those names. Search the > pages directly. > > > Re: Born 1895, plus 14 equals 1909 vice 1905. A mystery continues. > Don't lose sleep over this one, dates are inevitably wrong, either in > writing or in memory. Plus or minus five years doesn't surprise me. > Plus or minus 10 years might, unless one was being purposefully > deceptive. > > Yes, the missing manifests stuff is great. It looks like Steve Morse > site is down again unfortunately. AFHIC appears to be harrassing him > again. Please write a letter of protest to ellisisland.org. > > Persist on the villages. > Bill > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wasmore@att.net [mailto:wasmore@att.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:36 PM > > To: SLOVAKIA-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: More Ellis Island database search tips dealing > > with errors > > > > > > Bill, > > Based on info I have gathered so far I am at the point > > of either (1) Requesting FHC info or (2) writing to Archives > > in Slovakia. > > Situation: > > GF born in Almas (there are at least 4 towns/villages > > which can claim Almas as their name over history). A clue > > is fact that his last place of residence was Lucka (there are > > at least 5 Lucka's). Assuming "his" Almas and > > Lucka are fairly close together, this would narrow the field > > down to 2 of the four choices: Jablonov nad Turnou ESE of > > Roznava and Jablonov, east of Levoca. (I hope). > > In any case, for that region of Slovakia, I presume the > > historical records would be in the same Archive office. > > I have his exact date of birth, but there is some > > variation in spelling of the last name (Smorey, Czmorey, etc.) > > Any thoughts on whether FHC or Archives would produce best > > results and be the best course of action at this point? > > Understand Archive search comes with cost which is OK. The > > goal is to identify his parents and confirm place of birth. > > > > On another issue - have had absolutely no luck identifying > > arrival of my GM, Anna Pastircak to the U.S. I have only > > sketchy info from marriage certificate, etc. No luck on > > EIDB, even using all the spelling variations I and the > > computer can come up with. Only have year of immigration > > (1905) from 1920 Census records but that doesn't track with > > her comment to me > > when I was a child that "she came to the U.S. when she was > > 14". Born 1895, plus 14 equals 1909 vice 1905. A mystery continues. > > > > On another note: I would never have found my GF's ship > > manifest info without the Stephen Morse "Missing Manifests" > > software. NOTHING else worked. > > > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Bill Smorey > > Researching Smorey, Czmorej, Csmorey, Czmorey, Pastircak, > > Konzal, Konzel, Serrianni, Serianni, Giordano, McCormack, Clark > > > More Ellis Island database search tips dealing with errors > > > > > > For those searching with www.ellisislandrecords.org I'd like to > > > point out a couple more examples of database transcription errors > > > which will inevitably haunt you all. I uncovered the following > > > examples just today and one of them let to a significant > > breakthrough > > > for me. > > > > > > Arrival: November 02, 1903 > > > SS Belgravia > > > > > > You will see a BIG boondoggle here: Line 24 has the incorrect > > > passenger name in the "text" list. And age. Looks like > > the passenger > > > name (from the "image") is FEDOR POLULIK (but you won't find it in > > > the database index ("text") recorded that way; it's listed > > as MOLNA, > > > JOSEF.) Here is the story: > > > > > > Here are the passenger list lines, page 109, List 21: > > > 0023. Pastornak, Josef M 25y S Austrian, Polish Brody > > > 0024. Molnar, Josef M 26y M Austrian, Polish Smerek > > > 0025. Molnar, Josef M 26y M Hungarian, Magyar Nagy Ecs > > > > > > (navigate to these listings by going to the web site above, > > searching > > > for any of these names, finding the correct entry by date > > shown above. > > > Then look at both the "text" and the "image" of the manifest.) > > > > > > I stumbled across this entry. Having exhausted the > > intuitive, obvious > > > means of searching the database (names that sound and look > > alike), I > > > began scouring manifests, page-by-page, looking at the "text > > > versions." Instead of looking for Surnames, I was scanning > > for village > > > names. That's how I found this one. > > > > > > For me, the bigger reward was just a half-hour ago, when I found my > > > Grandmother's first passage to America. I had been looking for 17 > > > months online for it. I had been looking for MARIA DZIUBA (DZUBA), > > > who had originally been from Wetlina, moved south to Nova > > Sedlica. In > > > the same manifest (as above) I found her name, misspelled as: MARIA > > > SZIUBA, when I noticed entries for "Novaszedlicza". > > > > > > So, the manifest is correct, it's just a great example of how the > > > people who typed the data into the computers at EIDB messed > > up. They > > > were either not careful enough in their typing or were not > > adequately > > > trained in the reading of cursive or they were rushed. I still say > > > God Bless them. However, the moral of the story is to > > never give up > > > and keep thinking of different ways to find them. 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