On 20 Apr 99 Edwin Harris wrote: > > Frank, > This is a very interesting Leap of Faith. > Is the most definite date of death "after 1771", which as you know > leaves about 29 years leeway from our Arch's known date of death? What > is this based on? Does Monica have anything further? This will be a long one, If you're not interested in Archibalds hit delete!! I thought that I probably left Edwin and my other cousins hanging with my leap of faith story and a more detail explanation was due. All my "new" cousins that descend from ole Archibald Sloan, Sr I may want to listen. *************************** Rationale for my "leap of faith" that Archibald of Blount Co. Tn. is the same as Archibald Sloan, son of John Sloan, son of Archibald Sloan Sr.#1 of Hanover Twp. PA. Comments concerning MY Tn. Archibald: He is one of the first settlers in the area when it opened up in 1778 with land entry #99 in then Washington Co. NC. In 1783 this became Greene Co. NC. In 1792, part of Knox Co. NC. Blount Co. NC. in 1795 and finally Blount Co. TN. in 1796. I've have not seen any record that indicates his place of birth or origins before 1778. I believe we (Monita Horn and I) have researched all the early Sloan settlers in Tn. and I don't think any were immigrants. Most of the early Sloan settlers in Tn. came from NC. either Rowan/Iredell or Mecklenburg counties. Some of these were b. in Pa. prior to the move to NC. My gut feeling has always been that our Archibald was not an immigrant and that he probably descended from an Archibald Sloan. If that is true, then he must come from some other state. There are 59 Archibald Sloans in my database. Of these, only 11 are b. before 1760. #1. Archibald Sloan, Sr. I, b. bef 1697 probably Europe, d. bef 1764 Lancaster Co. Pa. #2. Archibald Sloan b. abt 1710 Ireland? of Onslow Co. NC. Nothing known. #3. Archibald Sloan, Sr. II, b. abt 1719, d. abt 1788, Rowan Co NC. #4. Archibald Sloan b. bef 1739 m. Margaret Sloan, dau of John & Jane Sloan, d. 1793 in probably Dauphin Co. PA. #5. Archibald Sloan b. abt 1740 Onslow Co. NC. (son of John) d. 1791 Rowan Co. NC. (I think place of d. is questionable.) #6. Archibald Sloan b. bef 1744 in Lancaster Co. PA. or Europe, son of John & Jane Sloan, mentioned in Uncle Samuel's will in 1771, went west & never heard from again. (Maybe he was ticked that he only received 3 £, the plantation went to his cousin Archibald Sloan#8) #7. MY Archibald Sloan b. before 1743 place unk, d. 1800 Blount Co. Tn. #8. Archibald Sloan b. bef 1751 Pa. d. abt 1804 Botetourt Co. VA. #9. Archibald Sloan, III b. 1753 d. aft 1793, Natchez, Adams Co. MS. #10. Archibald Sloan b. bef 1755 Cumberland Co. Pa. d. bef 1810 Crawford Co. Pa. #11. Archibald Sloan b. bef 1756 Ireland d. 1810-10 Newberry Co. SC. Archibalds #1,3,4,6,8 and 9 are of the same line out of early Lancaster Co. Pa. (later Dauphin Co. Pa.) 6, 8 and 9 are all 1st cousins. Archibalds #2 & #5 are part of the Duplin Co. bunch. From a published family history, don't really know where or when they show up in public records. Is it bef or Aft 1778? They are still possibilities. Based on this slightly biased analysis #6 and #7 appear to be the same. Bear in mind, finding the place of death of all this Archibalds was no easy task. It has taken Monita about 20 years. #8 is a real piece of work. I feel confident that we have found all the possible Archibalds in the south and PA. So, my Archibald must be equal to one of the other 10 or else he jumped off the boat and landed in the middle of East Tn. The clue that led me to believe that #6 & #7 are the same came out of an article published in OH. "The History of Montgomery Co. OH." The article was about an early settler, Robert Sloan originally from Hanover Twp Pa. It talked about his father Alexander that lived and d. in Hanover Twp. It mentioned Alexander's first wife Elizabeth and 2nd wife Jean Moor/Moore. (Ingle's also mentioned this couple in his "Sloans of Hanover" article.) The article did not mention the name of Alexander's father, but said he was of Lebanon Co. PA. [Lebanon was from Dauphin Co.] For years I have referred to him as "Old Lebanon" The article stated there were only two known sons, Alexander and an unknown son that "went to the Great West" and was never heard from again. I've had this info in front of me for years and never saw the connection. "Old Lebanon" was the John Sloan that d. 1749-63 who only had two sons, Alexander and Archibald. The only thing that I knew about Alexander was that he m. Elizabeth Sloan in 1764 (probably a sister of the Archibald Sloan that m. Alexander's sister Margaret in 1759, you can't get much more confusing than that!!) Now, I see it's obvious that this Elizabeth is the first wife of Alexander Sloan that m. 2nd Jean Moor. Alex is buried next to Elizabeth in the Old Hanover cemetery. AND the brother that went to the Great West was his only brother, ARCHIBALD. I always thought the Great West was Calf. Or Nevada, not Tenn.!! However in 1771-88 the west was the wilderness of Oh, Ky. Tn. etc. Other circumstantial evidence: #6 Archibald is the son of John & Jane Sloan. #7 Archibald's first son is John and first? dau is Jane/Jean. All the names of Archibald's children are the same as the Lancaster bunch, (typical Scot-Irish names) The birthplace of #7 Archibald's children is unknown, however, many of the spouse's families come from the Lancaster area. i.e. McTeers, Cooks, McConnells, I saw Boyds, and Campbells neighbors of Sloans in Lancaster Co. but not sure if/how related. The migration of family/friends together is fairly well documented. It is also common for the children to relocate after the settlement of the parents estate. #6 Archibald's widowed mother Jane sold the farm in 1764 and Archibald also sold his 31 acres. No record of new purchases. He may have left the area then or left after he received nothing from his uncle Samuel's estate in 1771. To prove this theory I need to find some evidence "in Tn." that our Arch came out of Pa. or if any of his kids were b. in PA. If this evidence exist, I believe it may be in the dusty files of Greene Co. Tn. I don't think it exist in any of today's published records or we would have found it already. Any other cousins ready for this "leap of faith?" Frank Mitchell -- Apartado 11521, Zona 6 Panama, Republic of Panama Phone day 011-507-261-9757 Email: fmitchel@panama.phoenix.net Visit "The Sloan Connection" at: http://www.panama.phoenix.net/~fmitchel/welcome.html