In a message dated 98-10-27 12:45:50 EST, you write: << Nancy & the rest of the Jackson Co. Tn. Sloan researchers. Congrats!! on your great discovery. Goes to show it pays to look at the original census and not just a published abstract (which I used). Yours is certainly a low profile family, But, I don't think they all left the State!. I had this family as part of my unconnected loose ends: Census 1860-Jackson Co. Tn. Fam22 pg218 (widow?)Margaret Sloan age 60 is with Elbert Sloan age 10 Listed separate, but same family # as Margaret. is: Martin age ? {sorry, don't have my original notes with me} Ellen age 25 John age 1 Census 1900-Jackson Co. Tn. Dist #14 (Soundex data) Martin is b. Jul 1829 TN. Wife: none Mary E. b. Nov 1863 is listed as dau in soundex, however, I believe she is probably dau-in-law. Mary is still in Jackson Co. in 1910 These children listed as grandchildren of Martin Sloan. . Ora APR 1886, TN. * Hollie MAR 1893, TN. Gidar MAR 1898, TN. Listed as dau of Mary E. in 1910. Ora is listed as servant of James Howell in 1900 & as granddau of Martin Sloan. Oral/Ova or Ora? *************** A couple of other comments you might consider: 1. Your Isaac may be the Isaac listed in 1820 Smith Co. Tn. [200010 10100] 2. I have the same family makeup for Isaac as you in 1830, except I show him in Humphries Co. TN. (from pub. abstract info) would love to know for sure which one correct. 3. In 1850 a couple of doors down from Isaac is Jonathan Sloan, Fam939 [age 55, Va. w/wife & 7 kids, 1st son named Isaac] I always thought his was probably Isaac's brother. Hope this helps, Frank Mitchell >> Frank: I wish I could say I used original census, but I didn't--I have transcribed copies as well! Checked Jackson and Macon counties (where my Carver/Lovelady line have shown up from time to time). I saw the families you found in 1860 with Elbert and Martin, but I think the ages are wrong -Elbert is listed as age 10, when the 1850 census says he was born in 1838 and should have been about 22. Martin was born in 1832 so he should have been 28. I'd have to go back and look at my notes, but my recollection on Martin in the 1860 is that the age is way off. I don't have 1900 or 1910 Jackson County census so your info on Martin, b. 1829, and grandchildren really helps me! On your other points--I didn't have the 1820, but I agree with you that it is probably the same Isaac. On 1830, I got my info out of Sistler, who has Isaac, Jonathan and Samuel in Jackson county. I am almost certain that is correct because Cornelius Carver, father of John Seth Carver, future husband of Delilah Jane Sloan, Isaac's daughter, was in the same county and was a next door neighbor in the 1840 census, same location. On Jonathan, I agree with you that he is probably a brother--the VA birthplace, proximity in ages, and geographic proximity in location all make me think he must be a brother. Has anyone researching our Sloan line looked at the Jackson county microfilm for Chancery Records for the years after 1861 to see if there is anything on this family? I have Betty Huff Bryant's abstracts of 1840-1861, but the Sloan references in her book for that time period aren't much help. If Isaac didn't move before 1860, I'm assuming that he died in Jackson county, but I haven't had time to look yet in chancery records for the period after 1861. I also forgot to mention earlier, I think I have located another daughter of Isaac's--Sarah P., b. about 1829. The 1830 and 1840 census shows another older daughter (Delilah and John were married by the 1840 census). I have been trying for months to figure out the connection between John A. Dycus, b. 1828 and the John and Delilah Sloan Carver family. Delilah died in 1861 and John was then murdered in 1865. The guardians for his younger children in an estatel contest in his father Cornelius' estate in 1867-1872 were James Wade Carver, the oldest son of John and Delilah and John A. Dycus. I think John A. Dycus, who married Sarah P. ? may have been an uncle to the Carver children because he married Delilah's sister. My reasons for thinking this are the age of Sarah, the fact that there should be another daughter a little younger than Delilah, the location where they lived--fairly close to the Carvers and Isaac Sloan's family, and the fact that in the 1870 census, there are 3 small Sloan children living with them: Margaret Slone, age 15, Sarah C. Sloan, age 13 and Elbert A. Sloan age 8. I suspect these are nieces and nephews of Sarah P. Slone Dycus that she took in after a Sloan brother died. I considered that the Elbert may be her brother,but the ages are all wrong. Since I can't find the rest of the Sloans in 1860 census in Jackson or Macon County (or in TN--looked on FTM index), I'm not sure whose children they might be. If Sarah P. Sloan Dycus was Delilah Jane Sloan Carver's younger sister, it makes sense that her husband would be a guardian for Delilah and John's younger children. What do you think? Nancy