Hoezoe@aol.com wrote: > Old Rowan, but in searching for more distinctive names (such as > Marlins Creek), I find it is now called Sloans Creek (p.458) with the > following description: rises in w Rowan County [that would be > present-day Rowan] and flows n approx. 3 miles into Kerr Creek, which > see. Known first as South Fork of James Cathey's Mills Creek and > later as Marlins Creek. Hi Folks, I was wondering if anyone can shed any light on which Sloan this was named after. Normally, when I think of (current day) Rowan Co. I think of the Henry Sloan line. However, I don't think this is case. I would guess the old Archibald Sloan Jr./Sr. of Lancaster Co. PA., since a James Cathey was m. to Isabelle Sloan his dau. However, I always thought most this line lived in current day Iredell Co. NC. Frank Mitchell -- PSC #4 Box 1681, APO AA 34004 (normal US postage, domestic rates) Phone day 011-507-287-5359 or evening 011-507-261-9757 Republic of Panama office: fmitchell@usarso-lan1.army.mil home: fmitchel@panama.phoenix.net "The Sloan Connection" http://www.panama.phoenix.net/~fmitchel/welcome.html

In a message dated 11/1/98 9:30:22 PM Central Standard Time, Sreyb writes: << << Subj: Re: Bald Mountain & James Catheys Mill Creek Date: 11/1/98 5:54:36 AM Central Standard Time From: eichholz@norwich.edu (Alice Eichholz) To: ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com North Carolina is lucky to have such a thorough place name gazetteer (THE NORTH CAROLINA GAZETTEER: A DICTIONARY OF TAR HELL PLACES by William S. Powell (Chapel Hill, NC: University of North Carolina Press). There are lots of Bald Mountains in counties which were original part of Old Rowan, but in searching for more distinctive names (such as Marlins Creek), I find it is now called Sloans Creek (p.458) with the following description: rises in w Rowan County [that would be present-day Rowan] and flows n approx. 3 miles into Kerr Creek, which see. Known first as South Fork of James Cathey's Mills Creek and later as Marlins Creek. >>

A couple of tidbits... The Sidney C. Sloan Bible record has the parents of my Sam Sloan (b. ~1826 AL, m. Jane Ray) as "Mark Sloan & wife name unknown". The last time I corresponded with Edna Sloan Cooksey was June 1997. At that time she was updating and proofing her Sloan book which could turn into two books: one on Samuel and Elizabeth Patterson Sloan and one on Patrick Sloan (I assume Samuel's brother). Here's an exerpt from her email: "...I have documents that may prove that, that Mark [the one living with Jesse] is the same Sampson listed in Patrick's will in 1809. This would make Jesse E., "Elias" possibly, that Mark's half-brother. Our Samuel is indeed from the Samuel & Elizabeth Patterson line. Proof is that Martha Sloan age 22, is still at home and has not married Allen Forkum (he's still w/parents) on the 1850 census. Thus proving that our Samuel is the one who has married 2nd Rhoda ? Davenport widow of Joseph Davenport, listed on the 1840 census and died shortly after. The Davenport children listed, Martha 19, and Brooks, Alvira, and Joseph are probably grandchildren of Rhoda." I look forward to seeing Edna's book. She has a web page at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/1632/index.html Michael Vaden mvaden@airnet.net F Mitchell wrote: > > This concerns the early Jessie, Samuel, & Mark Slone/Sloan. This will > probably be long, confusing and I do tend to ramble on sometimes. Hopefully it > will provide some new leads and maybe even answer some questions. > > The only information I've had on Jackson Co. came from census records and I > was never able to make sense of the records, ages NEVER match "known" dates, > etc. I've learned that the courthouse burned c1907, that's probably why > USGENWeb says there are no county records before 1872. > > In case you're missing this, there are the early census records from my notes > on the NC group: > SLOAN, JESSE JACKSON TN. 1830 Pg. 171 0010000010 0000000100 > SLOAN, SAMUEL JACKSON TN. 1830 Pg. 154 2112201000 1220001000 > **************** > SLOAN, JESSE JACKSON TN. 1840 Pg. 256 000100001 00000000011 > ******************* > 1850 Jackson Co., TN (p. 602, #913) > Samuel Sloan 55 NC > Rhoda 57 VA > Martha 22 TN > Martha DEVENPORT 19 TN > Alvira 8 TN > Brooks 6 TN > Joseph 12 TN > > 1850 Jackson Co., TN (3D-1015) > Jesse Slone 79 NC > Margaret 35 TN > John 14 TN > Selia 1 TN > William 4 TN > Sampson Braswell 12 TN > Silvy Braswell 40 TN > William Braswell 3 TN > Mark Slone 60 VA > ************************************ > Back in 1996, Michael Vaden provided me a gedcom of his family and a very > convincing analysis that this Samuel w/Rhoda was the son of Samuel & Elizabeth > (Patterson) Sloan. And based on information from the Sidney C. Sloan bible, > one of the Samuels was actually a Samuel Mark/Marcus Sloan. I don't recall all > the details, but at the time I had hard time accepting the "whole" theory, > even though most of it made very good sense. > > A little over a year ago, I got a letter from Edna Sloan Cooksey concerning > some errors in my database on some of the Smith Co. TN. Sloans. Edna appeared > to be very knowledgeable on this group and I ask her about the Jessie, Mark > and Samuel of Jackson Co. According to Edna, Jessie is really Jessie Elias > Sloan, Mark is Samuel Mark "Sampson" Sloan, and Samuel actually is Samuel Jr. > son of Samuel & Elizabeth (Patterson) Sloan. I didn't get into what was > proven or conjecture, Edna was planning on publishing a book on her Sloan > family, so we may have to wait for the book or the movie. Hope I didn't blow > the plot. > > To see the significance of this info, you have to go to the will of Samuel > Sr's brother, Patrick Sloan of Smith Co. Tn. (formally of Iredell Co. maybe > VA. and Lancaster Co. PA.) Patrick moved to Tn. 1805-09. His will was > written 8 Jun 1809, probate March 1810, Smith Co. Tn. exec Arch, John & Wm. > Sloan. witnesses John Patterson and A. Wilkerson. mentions wife Elizabeth, > sons Josiah, Elias, Allen & Sampson; daus Elinor, Elizabeth, & Mary > > This implies 10 children, I believe he could have had up to 13 or 14 and > probably had two wives both named Elizbeth. I forget my reasoning on that > right now. So there is a possibility that Isaac and Jonathan fit in there > somewhere, as a matter if fact, it's probably very likely. That would pretty > much put all the Sloans of Jackson and Smith Co. Tn. as one family. > > Now, I guess we need some more supporting "facts" And re-think some of the > previous theories. There are still some females that need to get linked up, > including Porterfield's Samantha Sloan, and Jeff's Deborah Sloan. > > Also, some new questions. > 1. Is Silvy Braswell the dau of Jessie Elias or Mark? With a kid named > Sampson it's probably Mark. > 2. What is the name of Samuel Jr's first wife? > > I'm sure there are more, but I'm getting sleeping and I'm anxious to hear > comments from ya'll. > > Frank Mitchell > -- > Visit "The Sloan Connection" at > http://www.panama.phoenix.net/~fmitchel/welcome.html

This concerns the early Jessie, Samuel, & Mark Slone/Sloan. This will probably be long, confusing and I do tend to ramble on sometimes. Hopefully it will provide some new leads and maybe even answer some questions. The only information I've had on Jackson Co. came from census records and I was never able to make sense of the records, ages NEVER match "known" dates, etc. I've learned that the courthouse burned c1907, that's probably why USGENWeb says there are no county records before 1872. In case you're missing this, there are the early census records from my notes on the NC group: SLOAN, JESSE JACKSON TN. 1830 Pg. 171 0010000010 0000000100 SLOAN, SAMUEL JACKSON TN. 1830 Pg. 154 2112201000 1220001000 **************** SLOAN, JESSE JACKSON TN. 1840 Pg. 256 000100001 00000000011 ******************* 1850 Jackson Co., TN (p. 602, #913) Samuel Sloan 55 NC Rhoda 57 VA Martha 22 TN Martha DEVENPORT 19 TN Alvira 8 TN Brooks 6 TN Joseph 12 TN 1850 Jackson Co., TN (3D-1015) Jesse Slone 79 NC Margaret 35 TN John 14 TN Selia 1 TN William 4 TN Sampson Braswell 12 TN Silvy Braswell 40 TN William Braswell 3 TN Mark Slone 60 VA ************************************ Back in 1996, Michael Vaden provided me a gedcom of his family and a very convincing analysis that this Samuel w/Rhoda was the son of Samuel & Elizabeth (Patterson) Sloan. And based on information from the Sidney C. Sloan bible, one of the Samuels was actually a Samuel Mark/Marcus Sloan. I don't recall all the details, but at the time I had hard time accepting the "whole" theory, even though most of it made very good sense. A little over a year ago, I got a letter from Edna Sloan Cooksey concerning some errors in my database on some of the Smith Co. TN. Sloans. Edna appeared to be very knowledgeable on this group and I ask her about the Jessie, Mark and Samuel of Jackson Co. According to Edna, Jessie is really Jessie Elias Sloan, Mark is Samuel Mark "Sampson" Sloan, and Samuel actually is Samuel Jr. son of Samuel & Elizabeth (Patterson) Sloan. I didn't get into what was proven or conjecture, Edna was planning on publishing a book on her Sloan family, so we may have to wait for the book or the movie. Hope I didn't blow the plot. To see the significance of this info, you have to go to the will of Samuel Sr's brother, Patrick Sloan of Smith Co. Tn. (formally of Iredell Co. maybe VA. and Lancaster Co. PA.) Patrick moved to Tn. 1805-09. His will was written 8 Jun 1809, probate March 1810, Smith Co. Tn. exec Arch, John & Wm. Sloan. witnesses John Patterson and A. Wilkerson. mentions wife Elizabeth, sons Josiah, Elias, Allen & Sampson; daus Elinor, Elizabeth, & Mary This implies 10 children, I believe he could have had up to 13 or 14 and probably had two wives both named Elizbeth. I forget my reasoning on that right now. So there is a possibility that Isaac and Jonathan fit in there somewhere, as a matter if fact, it's probably very likely. That would pretty much put all the Sloans of Jackson and Smith Co. Tn. as one family. Now, I guess we need some more supporting "facts" And re-think some of the previous theories. There are still some females that need to get linked up, including Porterfield's Samantha Sloan, and Jeff's Deborah Sloan. Also, some new questions. 1. Is Silvy Braswell the dau of Jessie Elias or Mark? With a kid named Sampson it's probably Mark. 2. What is the name of Samuel Jr's first wife? I'm sure there are more, but I'm getting sleeping and I'm anxious to hear comments from ya'll. Frank Mitchell -- Visit "The Sloan Connection" at http://www.panama.phoenix.net/~fmitchel/welcome.html

List owner, I sent a couple days ago to unsub from the digest. Did my unsub not go thru? I have recieved 2 more just sence I unsub'ed. Marcie. -----Original Message----- From: SLOAN-SLONE-D-request@rootsweb.com <SLOAN-SLONE-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: SLOAN-SLONE-D@rootsweb.com <SLOAN-SLONE-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 9:27 PM Subject: SLOAN-SLONE-D Digest V98 #71

Hi all! I have some additional dates for John Sloan and Mary Ann Gardner's, son of James and Jean Sloan, children. I have James G. Sloan b. 1787 m. Annis no last name. Hezekiah b. 6 MAR 1797 in Mecklenburg Co.,NC m. Elizabeth no last name d. 26 OCT 1866 in Macon Co.,TN. Hezekiah and Elizabeth had a son Robert Wilson Sloan b. 1819 in Sumner Co.,TN. I also have Elizabeth Sloan m. John Gardner and mother of Mary Ann, but no dates or parents to go with it. Hope this is some help. Kris Adcock captkrew@fgi.net

HI.. I found this notice of death listed in the:THE YADKIN AND CATAWBA JOURNAL SALISBURY, NC DEATH NOTICES1828 - 1834 SLOAN, CAPT. ROBERT ON FEBRUARY 12, 1829 IN CHARLOTTE, NC FEBRUARY 17, 1829. Thanks... kaite... http://www.kaite.com/

Frank, In my database, I have Elizabeth Sloan married John Gardner (no dates), FATHER of Mary Gardner who married John Sloan of Mecklenburg/Sumner Counties. I believe I got this from Fred Robinson.. Will check. RE Smith/Macon/Sumner At least some of Hezekiah Sloan's children were born in Smith County. I will get back to in a few days...I need to recheck, but I believe that part of Smith County became Macon County...I've found some strange coincidences there in the past week or so....but I'm too sleepy tonight, and tomorrow is Dentist Day (Ugh).

Ellie, I don't know about your Sloans, (I don't know enough about mine yet to share) but I also have Tinsleys that lived in TN before moving to Miller County, MO. William Carl Tinsley and wife Lucy Webb Tinsley through their son Isaac Smith Tinsley. Jeff Williams EllieSS@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 98-10-28 09:12:16 EST, fmitchell@usarso-lan1.army.mil > writes: > > << {not to be > confused with Mecklenburg Co. NC. group also in Smith Co.} >> > > I knew my SLOANS came from Mecklenburg Co NC.. but I didn't know they went to > Smith Co TN? Can someone fill me in? > > My g grandfather, Wm W. Sloan, b. in Mecklenburg Co NC, was in southern KY > when he married the first time. He went over the line to Sumner Co TN to > marry Susan Tinsley. Then the entire family went to Miller Co MO. There > Susan died and he m. my g grandmother, Mary Ann Smith.. Does anyone else > connect to this line? > > EllieSS@aol.com

I am interested in this line as well. My last proven ancestor is Samuel who lived in Jackson County (Sloan Hollow) (b. ~1826 AL, m. Jane Ray). I think his father was Samuel (possibly Samuel Mark) (b. ~1790). It also seems possible that his grandfather is Samuel (b. 1756-8 NC, m. Elizabeth Patterson) rather than Jesse, but again has not been proven. This info is in Frank's database. Michael Vaden mvaden@airnet.net F Mitchell wrote: > > Nancy, > > I haven't heard from anyone else, maybe you and I are the only ones interested > in this line. So I'll make this my final message to the whole SLOAN-SLONE > group. > > At this point, I beginning to think there are two different Sloan lines in > Jackson Co, a Va. bunch and a NC. bunch. For years I'm been trying to keep it > as one family from VA. but last year someone sent me some convincing evidence > that Jesse and Mark and Samuel(2) are part of the Smith/Macon Co. Tn. group > that came from the Iredell/Rowan Co. NC. Archibald Sloan line. {not to be > confused with Mecklenburg Co. NC. group also in Smith Co.} This Archibald > Sloan line originally came from Lancaster Co. PA. (has a lot of researchers) > AND one branch did go to VA. in late 1700's. At this point, I have not tried > to find Jonathan or Isaac in Va. > > I'll get back to you on your other comments. > Frank Mitchell > > Visit "The Sloan Connection" at: > http://www.panama.phoenix.net/~fmitchel/welcome.html

Sandra, That is interesting about your Sloan having the middle name of Glover, Armanella Jane Kirby, daughter of Austin Kirby and Deborah Sloan, born in Jackson Coutny, TN married Joshua Glover, whose unknown parents were born in TN. I've always felt that Joshua and Armanella's families may have known each other from TN because he married her in IL while on leave from the Civil War. Jeff Williams

EllieSS@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 98-10-28 09:12:16 EST, fmitchell writes: not to be > confused with Mecklenburg Co. NC. group also in Smith Co.} >> > > I knew my SLOANS came from Mecklenburg Co NC.. but I didn't know they > went to > Smith Co TN? Can someone fill me in? Ellie,SORRY!! I said Smith Co. Tn. but I was thinking of the group in Sumner Co. TN. The Sumner Co. Tn. group is the John Sloan/Gardner family from Mecklenburg Co. NC. This family mainly stayed in Sumner & later Macon Co. although I think son Hezekiah may have wandered over into Smith Co. in 1830. John Sloan was a Rev. War Vet and so was his father James (w/Jean) Sloan of Mecklenburg Co. Speaking of this family, I ran across another interesting loose end today. Three of James Sloan kids married three of John Gardner kids. Today I ran across a note that said that John Gardner's wife was Elizabeth Sloan (b. abt 1740-50). I'm not sure I have a copy of the source of this on-hand. The source was supposed to be from will of John Gardner's mother, Mary Ann Gardner in Mecklenburg. This was some of Louella Sloan Young's research. Can anyone confirm this? Who is this Elizabeth Sloan? Back to Sumner Co. I'm not sure I've ever seen the proof on John & Mary Ann (Gardner) Sloan's children. I show 7 known children, but based on the early census records there may be some missing. NOW ELLIE, DON'T GET YOU HOPES UP!! But an interesting coincidence, I show a missing son the same age group as your Thomas Shields Sloan. Also the name Wilson pops up associated with John Sloan's family, See my notes below: ************ John's children: 01 James G. ? 02 John b. 1795-04 03 Hezekiah ? 04 Mary Ann? b. 1795-04 05 JOSEPH b. 1795-01 06 Hannah ? b. 1805-10 07 Male b. 1805-10 08 Female b. 1805-10 09 Female b. 1805-10 10 William S. b. 1815-20 Ellouise Schoettler provided these notes Jan 1992: JOHN SLOAN (NC) S1590, Private NC Militia, Born PA Declaration: Tenn, 1832 Sumner County. Tn. Born PA, 1759, lived there til 1766, moved to Mecklenburg County NC. In July 1776 he volunteered under Capt B? Alexander. Colonel Fifer and General Rutherford. - to guard the frontier at the head waters of the Catawba River. Fought the Cherokee Indians. His brother was wounded in 1779. John Wilson, a resident of Sumner County, being about 93 years of age grew up in the same area in Mecklenburg as John Sloan. Rec'd pension 1831 at $88.33/payperiod sent to.... ********************** I always thought it strange that Ellie's Thomas S. Sloan just happened to marry in this Co. full of the Mecklenburg Co. bunch. without there being some connection. Later, Frank Mitchell PS. There are a lot more people interested in the Sloans of Jackson Co. than I thought. More to come. "The Sloan Connection" http://www.panama.phoenix.net/~fmitchel/welcome.html

In a message dated 98-10-28 09:12:16 EST, fmitchell@usarso-lan1.army.mil writes: << {not to be confused with Mecklenburg Co. NC. group also in Smith Co.} >> I knew my SLOANS came from Mecklenburg Co NC.. but I didn't know they went to Smith Co TN? Can someone fill me in? My g grandfather, Wm W. Sloan, b. in Mecklenburg Co NC, was in southern KY when he married the first time. He went over the line to Sumner Co TN to marry Susan Tinsley. Then the entire family went to Miller Co MO. There Susan died and he m. my g grandmother, Mary Ann Smith.. Does anyone else connect to this line? EllieSS@aol.com

Frank and Nancy, I have been reading your messages on Jackson County, TN Sloans with interest. I don't have anything to contribute at this time, but am interested in the information you have. My husband's Sloans may be part of this Sloan family. John Glover Sloan b. 1847 Jackson County, TN Married Harriett Alabama Sloan the daughter of Alfred A. Sloan. .....John Sloan b. 1828 AL d. after 1900 Jackson Co., TN ..........Samuel Sloan b. abt 1795 NC d. after 1850 Jackson Co, TN ...............Jesse Sloan b. abt 1770 NC I would like to be included in any info you have on this Sloan family. Thank you, Sandra Hoyt

Frank and Nancy, Frank include me if you go private, I have been following your msgs and hoping to find Deborah in there, but haven't yet. In the 1850 Macon County Census, Austin Kirby and Deborah Sloan Kirby Have an Emily Kirby 13yrs living in the household next door, I wasn't able to get the last name of the elderly couple Emily was living with. Austin was born in NC, Deborah in TN in abt 1823. You might check Gallatin County,IL for you disappearing Sloans. Austin and Deborah moved there bef. abt 1860 and I did see that there were some Sloans there also, but I don't know how they tie in. I will go through my records and get better info. Jeff

Nancy, I haven't heard from anyone else, maybe you and I are the only ones interested in this line. So I'll make this my final message to the whole SLOAN-SLONE group. At this point, I beginning to think there are two different Sloan lines in Jackson Co, a Va. bunch and a NC. bunch. For years I'm been trying to keep it as one family from VA. but last year someone sent me some convincing evidence that Jesse and Mark and Samuel(2) are part of the Smith/Macon Co. Tn. group that came from the Iredell/Rowan Co. NC. Archibald Sloan line. {not to be confused with Mecklenburg Co. NC. group also in Smith Co.} This Archibald Sloan line originally came from Lancaster Co. PA. (has a lot of researchers) AND one branch did go to VA. in late 1700's. At this point, I have not tried to find Jonathan or Isaac in Va. I'll get back to you on your other comments. Frank Mitchell Visit "The Sloan Connection" at: http://www.panama.phoenix.net/~fmitchel/welcome.html

In a message dated 98-10-27 12:45:50 EST, you write: << Nancy & the rest of the Jackson Co. Tn. Sloan researchers. Congrats!! on your great discovery. Goes to show it pays to look at the original census and not just a published abstract (which I used). Yours is certainly a low profile family, But, I don't think they all left the State!. I had this family as part of my unconnected loose ends: Census 1860-Jackson Co. Tn. Fam22 pg218 (widow?)Margaret Sloan age 60 is with Elbert Sloan age 10 Listed separate, but same family # as Margaret. is: Martin age ? {sorry, don't have my original notes with me} Ellen age 25 John age 1 Census 1900-Jackson Co. Tn. Dist #14 (Soundex data) Martin is b. Jul 1829 TN. Wife: none Mary E. b. Nov 1863 is listed as dau in soundex, however, I believe she is probably dau-in-law. Mary is still in Jackson Co. in 1910 These children listed as grandchildren of Martin Sloan. . Ora APR 1886, TN. * Hollie MAR 1893, TN. Gidar MAR 1898, TN. Listed as dau of Mary E. in 1910. Ora is listed as servant of James Howell in 1900 & as granddau of Martin Sloan. Oral/Ova or Ora? *************** A couple of other comments you might consider: 1. Your Isaac may be the Isaac listed in 1820 Smith Co. Tn. [200010 10100] 2. I have the same family makeup for Isaac as you in 1830, except I show him in Humphries Co. TN. (from pub. abstract info) would love to know for sure which one correct. 3. In 1850 a couple of doors down from Isaac is Jonathan Sloan, Fam939 [age 55, Va. w/wife & 7 kids, 1st son named Isaac] I always thought his was probably Isaac's brother. Hope this helps, Frank Mitchell >> Frank: I wish I could say I used original census, but I didn't--I have transcribed copies as well! Checked Jackson and Macon counties (where my Carver/Lovelady line have shown up from time to time). I saw the families you found in 1860 with Elbert and Martin, but I think the ages are wrong -Elbert is listed as age 10, when the 1850 census says he was born in 1838 and should have been about 22. Martin was born in 1832 so he should have been 28. I'd have to go back and look at my notes, but my recollection on Martin in the 1860 is that the age is way off. I don't have 1900 or 1910 Jackson County census so your info on Martin, b. 1829, and grandchildren really helps me! On your other points--I didn't have the 1820, but I agree with you that it is probably the same Isaac. On 1830, I got my info out of Sistler, who has Isaac, Jonathan and Samuel in Jackson county. I am almost certain that is correct because Cornelius Carver, father of John Seth Carver, future husband of Delilah Jane Sloan, Isaac's daughter, was in the same county and was a next door neighbor in the 1840 census, same location. On Jonathan, I agree with you that he is probably a brother--the VA birthplace, proximity in ages, and geographic proximity in location all make me think he must be a brother. Has anyone researching our Sloan line looked at the Jackson county microfilm for Chancery Records for the years after 1861 to see if there is anything on this family? I have Betty Huff Bryant's abstracts of 1840-1861, but the Sloan references in her book for that time period aren't much help. If Isaac didn't move before 1860, I'm assuming that he died in Jackson county, but I haven't had time to look yet in chancery records for the period after 1861. I also forgot to mention earlier, I think I have located another daughter of Isaac's--Sarah P., b. about 1829. The 1830 and 1840 census shows another older daughter (Delilah and John were married by the 1840 census). I have been trying for months to figure out the connection between John A. Dycus, b. 1828 and the John and Delilah Sloan Carver family. Delilah died in 1861 and John was then murdered in 1865. The guardians for his younger children in an estatel contest in his father Cornelius' estate in 1867-1872 were James Wade Carver, the oldest son of John and Delilah and John A. Dycus. I think John A. Dycus, who married Sarah P. ? may have been an uncle to the Carver children because he married Delilah's sister. My reasons for thinking this are the age of Sarah, the fact that there should be another daughter a little younger than Delilah, the location where they lived--fairly close to the Carvers and Isaac Sloan's family, and the fact that in the 1870 census, there are 3 small Sloan children living with them: Margaret Slone, age 15, Sarah C. Sloan, age 13 and Elbert A. Sloan age 8. I suspect these are nieces and nephews of Sarah P. Slone Dycus that she took in after a Sloan brother died. I considered that the Elbert may be her brother,but the ages are all wrong. Since I can't find the rest of the Sloans in 1860 census in Jackson or Macon County (or in TN--looked on FTM index), I'm not sure whose children they might be. If Sarah P. Sloan Dycus was Delilah Jane Sloan Carver's younger sister, it makes sense that her husband would be a guardian for Delilah and John's younger children. What do you think? Nancy

On 26 Oct 98 <GibsonHamm@aol.com> Wrote: | | According to Wayne and Patrick, | Delilah Jane's parents were Isaac SLOAN/SLONE b. 1791 in | VA and Margaret ? b. 1801 in TN. I have census information on Isaac's family | from 1830, 1840, 1850, but they disappear completely in 1860, 1870, 1880 | from Jackson County. I'm assuming Isaac and Margaret died somewhere in there, | but it also looks like the whole family moved, maybe to another state. | | 1) Does anyone know where they went? Nancy & the rest of the Jackson Co. Tn. Sloan researchers. Congrats!! on your great discovery. Goes to show it pays to look at the original census and not just a published abstract (which I used). Yours is certainly a low profile family, But, I don't think they all left the State!. I had this family as part of my unconnected loose ends: Census 1860-Jackson Co. Tn. Fam22 pg218 (widow?)Margaret Sloan age 60 is with Elbert Sloan age 10 Listed separate, but same family # as Margaret. is: Martin age ? {sorry, don't have my original notes with me} Ellen age 25 John age 1 Census 1900-Jackson Co. Tn. Dist #14 (Soundex data) Martin is b. Jul 1829 TN. Wife: none Mary E. b. Nov 1863 is listed as dau in soundex, however, I believe she is probably dau-in-law. Mary is still in Jackson Co. in 1910 These children listed as grandchildren of Martin Sloan. . Ora APR 1886, TN. * Hollie MAR 1893, TN. Gidar MAR 1898, TN. Listed as dau of Mary E. in 1910. Ora is listed as servant of James Howell in 1900 & as granddau of Martin Sloan. Oral/Ova or Ora? *************** A couple of other comments you might consider: 1. Your Isaac may be the Isaac listed in 1820 Smith Co. Tn. [200010 10100] 2. I have the same family makeup for Isaac as you in 1830, except I show him in Humphries Co. TN. (from pub. abstract info) would love to know for sure which one correct. 3. In 1850 a couple of doors down from Isaac is Jonathan Sloan, Fam939 [age 55, Va. w/wife & 7 kids, 1st son named Isaac] I always thought his was probably Isaac's brother. Hope this helps, Frank Mitchell

In a message dated 10/26/98 8:59:19 PM, GibsonHamm@aol.com wrote: <<Hi list: My wonderful cousin, Charlene Carver McClain, e-mailed me recently with information from Wayne Carver and Patrick Carver on the parents of Delilah Jane SLOAN, B. 1824 in Jackson County. According to Wayne and Patrick, Delilah Jane's parents were Isaac SLOAN/SLONE b. 1791 in VA and Margaret ? b. 1801 in TN. I have census information on Isaac's family from 1830, 1840, 1850, but they disappear completely in 1860, 1870, 1880 from Jackson County. I'm assuming Isaac and Margaret died somewhere in there, but it also looks like the whole family moved, maybe to another state. Four questions: 1) Does anyone know where they went? 2) Does anyone know who Isaac's parents were or where in VA he was from? 3) For reasons I won't go into here, I also suspect that Sarah P. DYCUS b. 1829, wife of John A. Dycus, Jackson County, TN, was also a daughter of Isaac Sloan/Slone--has anyone been able to confirm this? 4) Is anyone out there working on this family who wants to share info? The following are the children from census records: 1. ISSAC1 SLOAN was born 1791 in Virginia. He married MARGARET?. More About ISSAC SLOAN: Census 1: 1830, Jackson County, TN, 2 males under 5; 1 male 5-10; 1 male 15-20; 1 male 40-50; 3 females 5-10; 1 female 40-50 Census 2: 1840, Jackson County, TN, District 3. 3 males under 5; 1 male 5 & under 10; 2 males 10 & under 15; 1 male 15 and under 20; 1 male 40 & under 50; 2 females under 5; 1 female 5 & under 10; 1 female 10 & under 15; 1 female 30 & under 40; 5 in agriculture Census 3: 1850, Jackson County, TN, #934, 3rd District, Farmer, $600.00 Children of ISSAC SLOAN and MARGARET? are: 2. i. DELILA JANE2 SLOAN, b. 1824, Tennessee; d. 1861. ii. ANDREW SLOAN, b. 1828. iii. MARTIN SLOAN, b. 1830. iv. DEMARIS SLOAN, b. 1831. v. BARTEN SLOAN, b. 1832. vi. JOHN SLOAN, b. 1835. vii. ELIZABETH SLOAN, b. 1837. viii. ELBERT SLOAN, b. 1838. ix. ALEXANDER SLOAN, b. 1839. x. CANZADY SLOAN, b. 1838. Thanks, Nancy >> I don't know if this is of any significance or not <hope so!!!!>... But my gg grandfather was Thomas Shields Sloan, b. ca. 1809.. his wife, Margaret Alexander was b. ca. 1811.. they married in the early 1830's. Their first son was William W. Sloan, b. in Mecklenburg Co NC in the 1830's.. His second son was ISAAC ALEXANDER SLOAN, b. in KY.. the family moved to KY just before 1840.. where the rest of their children were born.. If yours were related, could they have gone to Kentucky too? My question has always been.. Why did they move to KY? Who went with them? FAMILY? Why did move to Miller Co MO after almost 20 yrs.. They are buried there. This was my mother's childhood home <her grandfather was Wm W. Sloan and second wife, Mary Ann Smith, b. ARK>..... Another son was George Barton Sloan. Who were Thomas Shields Sloan's parents, grandparents? Do we have a connection? EllieSS@aol.com

Hi list: My wonderful cousin, Charlene Carver McClain, e-mailed me recently with information from Wayne Carver and Patrick Carver on the parents of Delilah Jane SLOAN, B. 1824 in Jackson County. According to Wayne and Patrick, Delilah Jane's parents were Isaac SLOAN/SLONE b. 1791 in VA and Margaret ? b. 1801 in TN. I have census information on Isaac's family from 1830, 1840, 1850, but they disappear completely in 1860, 1870, 1880 from Jackson County. I'm assuming Isaac and Margaret died somewhere in there, but it also looks like the whole family moved, maybe to another state. Four questions: 1) Does anyone know where they went? 2) Does anyone know who Isaac's parents were or where in VA he was from? 3) For reasons I won't go into here, I also suspect that Sarah P. DYCUS b. 1829, wife of John A. Dycus, Jackson County, TN, was also a daughter of Isaac Sloan/Slone--has anyone been able to confirm this? 4) Is anyone out there working on this family who wants to share info? The following are the children from census records: 1. ISSAC1 SLOAN was born 1791 in Virginia. He married MARGARET?. More About ISSAC SLOAN: Census 1: 1830, Jackson County, TN, 2 males under 5; 1 male 5-10; 1 male 15-20; 1 male 40-50; 3 females 5-10; 1 female 40-50 Census 2: 1840, Jackson County, TN, District 3. 3 males under 5; 1 male 5 & under 10; 2 males 10 & under 15; 1 male 15 and under 20; 1 male 40 & under 50; 2 females under 5; 1 female 5 & under 10; 1 female 10 & under 15; 1 female 30 & under 40; 5 in agriculture Census 3: 1850, Jackson County, TN, #934, 3rd District, Farmer, $600.00 Children of ISSAC SLOAN and MARGARET? are: 2. i. DELILA JANE2 SLOAN, b. 1824, Tennessee; d. 1861. ii. ANDREW SLOAN, b. 1828. iii. MARTIN SLOAN, b. 1830. iv. DEMARIS SLOAN, b. 1831. v. BARTEN SLOAN, b. 1832. vi. JOHN SLOAN, b. 1835. vii. ELIZABETH SLOAN, b. 1837. viii. ELBERT SLOAN, b. 1838. ix. ALEXANDER SLOAN, b. 1839. x. CANZADY SLOAN, b. 1838. Thanks, Nancy