In a message dated 1/11/01 9:06:14 PM !!!First Boot!!!, gwy@tellico.net writes: > As to all the others you say I offended and who unsubscribed from the > MIXEDBLOOD site as a result by my remarks to you - if they were so offended > as you say, then that is their perrogative.  I make no apologies for what I > have said.  And here's why - an apology is like saying "fudgies" in a game > of marbles.  In other words, if an apology should be said for the words then > the words should never have been spoken, and it's like asking for a 'free > pass' so you can go along and commit the same thing.  If you didn't mean to > say it, then don't say it!  Hello Black Crow,                     I agree with what you have said here. And being the person I am, I want no doubt in anyones mind, that I feel this way.I do not believe from reading what was on the Mixed-Bloods -L that some left because of you and your words.I do believe that they left because their was a another issue.I think they saw that you were not being allowed to express your words as you saw fit to discribe them. Yes the words may have offended some, but I also think that in order to get to a place of understanding, we must allow ALL to express, where race is concerned.Hatred will never die unless it can be talked about freely by all. Point:    The other day I wrote a post on one of my list, reguarding the actions of African Americans to each other. I have clearly seen them call each other nigger, but they claim it is in a matter of affection. I stronly disagree. I see also on late night comedy shows, were whites and blacks are joked about in a matter of racial context.Well if the word nigger offends African Americans, then the Black Leaders should do somthing to change that.Because talking about Whitie on late night offends me as well.   I also think that I must be totally honest about another matter.I saw Black Crow (you) and Turtle go at it on the list.And be put off the list.This upset me, and I was angry, because a voice I wanted to hear, was taken away, with no question of how I felt about it.I felt that we cannot kill the messanger, because we don't like the words. But in my heart, I felt that both of you can learn alot from each other.Turtle is my sister and always will be. Nothing can ever change that. But I saw her about to lose a very good advasary and teacher, whom I felt spoke truly. I did not want my sister or myself to lose or miss the words of Black Crow (messanger). So when Black Crow(you) were put off the list, I decided to try and bring you together in a neutral forum.Knowing that my sister Turtle was already on the list, I then invited Black Crow to join.I am very happy that I did this.I think both of you could become very good friends. I will not apologise for intervenning in this matter. I feel it affected me and what I wanted to hear and learn. I would do it again.                                                        Bright Star