There has been much confusion as to what Thomas Sisson's(3) actual name was. Many of the old genealogy records call him Thomas Lawton Sisson. Yes, he was the grandson of Thomas Lawton, but I have never believed he had a Lawton middle name. I have a copy of his birth certificate, his birth occurred in Portsmouth, Rhode Island, and he is only named "Thomas Sisson." I also have a copy of his original Will, with his own original signature, and he signed it "Thomas Sisson." So, if there is no Lawton middle name on his birth certificate, or on his Will, this probably dispels the theory that his middle name was Lawton. Unfortunately, I was unable to scan a copy of his birth certificate and his signature on his Will, to the List, so I sent copies to Carol, who may be able to send them in some manner. I am always thrilled when I see an actual old signature by one of my ancestors. He wrote very well. Mary Jo Sisson March benoni@century tel.net

Since at the present ttime, my internet mail service does not seem to want to send any of my attachments, I have just decided to type the following to the List. BEDFORDSHIRE, ENGLAND PARISH RECORDS Burials 1600 -1700 Cranfield Thomas Lawton: 1605, Dec. 8 (grandfather of Thomas Lawton(1), md. Jane Arandell) Nicholas Lawton: 1622, March 17 (brother of Thomas Lawton (1), born 1621, Feb. 20, at Cranfield, ae 1 yr. & 3 mos. at time of death) Bennet Lawton: 1623, July 21 (brother of Thomas Lawton(1), born 1612, Feb. 27, at Cranfield, died at 11 yrs. of age George Lawton: 1641, Nov. 26 (father of Thomas Lawton(1) - George md. Isbell Smith) Thomas Lawton: 1679, Jan. 7 (unknown relationship, no doubt related to the other Cranfield Lawtons) Source: Cranfield, Bedfordshire Parish Records Note: These burial records were copied and sent to me by the same Cranfield resident, who sent me the marriage record of Thomas & Elizabeth. The notes that appear with most of the burials are just my own research notes, but the burial records themselves are from the Bedfordshire Parish Records. mjsm

I thought perhaps you would like for me to share my research with you, so I am sending this to the list. It may possibly shed some light on what motivated Thomas Lawton(1) to emigrate. Mary Jo

I thought perhaps you would like for me to share my research with you, so I am sending this to the list. It may possibly shed some light on what motivated Thomas Lawton(1) to emigrate. Mary Jo

A interesting website to visit the Sessoms of Hertford and Bertie Counties, NC: http://www.sallysfamilyplace.com/Neighbors/Sessomsw.htm It has a lot of information and a search engine to find it! If you find an interesting website, will you give us a head's up, please? Jeanette pjkh@comcast.net (from William Sisson> Frederick Sisson> Permelia Sisson + Ezekiel S. Partin)

Would anyone who has a copy of the Thomas Lawton/Elizabeth Salsburie marriage record be willing to scan a copy to me? It would be very much appreciated. Sue McMullin

Hello Mary Jo, Mary Jo March wrote: > Since I have been working on Thomas Lawton's records lately, I have noticed that in the old English records, his wife's maiden name is spelled Salsburie. In the days before literacy became possible and affordable, spelling of surnames and whatever else was phonetic. My practice has been to use the modern spelling and to point out historical spellings in the notes section of a person's or a family's records. I now have a copy of their marriage record, and her name is spelled Salsburie there too. So I believe the Salsbury spelling, that is sometimes used, should be considered incorrect. No spelling of a surname should be considered incorrect, just pre-modern. The modern spelling of Sisson is a sort of compromise of older spellings, including Sisson itself, plus Sison, Cyson, Sissons, etc. When records are found using a pre-modern spelling, a transcription should show the spelling as found on the original document. In my opinion. David Arne Sisson

Since I have been working on Thomas Lawton's records lately, I have noticed that in the old English records, his wife's maiden name is spelled Salsburie. I now have a copy of their marriage record, and her name is spelled Salsburie there too. So I believe the Salsbury spelling, that is sometimes used, should be considered incorrect. Mary Jo Sisson March

I have learned that I will not be able to post my Cranfield Village & Cranfield church photos on our site, the site will not accept them. Because they are such interesting pictures I decided to post the email addresses on the list instead. This is where I found them. http://www.cranfieldexpress.co.uk click on "pictures of Cranfield Village." and http://www.countyviews.com/beds/ chpages/crnfield There is a great colored photo of the St.Peter/Paul (norman church, ca. 1600) in Cranfield. It prints out very nicely. I have burial records for several of Thomas Lawton's ancestors & family members stating their burial site as Cranfield. They may very likely be buried in the churchyard. Please let me know if you are able to access the sites. Mary Jo benoni@centurytel.net

HI Mary Jo, thank you for this research and reporting! The pictures that you mention didn't come through because Rootsweb is set up not to forward attachments. Would you have time to e-mail the pictures privately to any on the list who would like to have them for their records? I could e-mail them also if that would help. Best wishes to you all, Carol Sisson Regehr Sisson-L list mom ________________________________ This is to explain why I have just sent the Cranfield photos to our Sisson List site. Cranfield, Bedfordshire, England was the birth place of Thomas Lawton(1), father of Sarah Lawton who married George Sisson(2). Thomas Lawton was born allegedly on April 17, 1614, in Cranfield. I have learned that the Lawtons were an old Cranfield family and had been there for several generations, before the birth of Thomas. There has been much controversy as to whether Thomas and Elizabeth Salisbury/Salisburie were md. in Cranfield or Portsmouth, R. I. I can definitely say that they were married in Cranfield May 29, 1635. I have received a copy of their original marriage record from the Bedford Parish Records. I was very pleased to locate this record, and learn at last, where they were actually married. Mary Jo Sisson March benoni@centurytel.net

Wow Mary Jo.....how exciting!? Congratulations on your efforts.? Regards,? Joan Fitzsimmons -----Original Message----- From: sisson-request@rootsweb.com To: sisson@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 3:01 am Subject: SISSON Digest, Vol 2, Issue 86 Today's Topics: 1. Cranfield Village & Church (Mary Jo March) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:08:40 -0600 From: "Mary Jo March" <benoni@centurytel.net> Subject: [SISSON] Cranfield Village & Church To: <SISSON-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <002001c84426$6da2f020$2f01a8c0@FSYLY0JTWN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" This is to explain why I have just sent the Cranfield photos to our Sisson List site. Cranfield, Bedfordshire, England was the birth place of Thomas Lawton(1), father of Sarah Lawton who married George Sisson(2). Thomas Lawton was born allegedly on April 17, 1614, in Cranfield. I have learned that the Lawtons were an old Cranfield family and had been there for several generations, before the birth of Thomas. There has been much controversy as to whether Thomas and Elizabeth Salisbury/Salisburie were md. in Cranfield or Portsmouth, R. I. I can definitely say that they were married in Cranfield May 29, 1635. I have received a copy of their original marriage record from the Bedford Parish Records. I was very pleased to locate this record, and learn at last, where they were actually married. Mary Jo Sisson March benoni@centurytel.net ------------------------------ To contact the SISSON list administrator, send an email to SISSON-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SISSON mailing list, send an email to SISSON@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SISSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of SISSON Digest, Vol 2, Issue 86 ************************************* ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

Great find Mary Jo.

This is to explain why I have just sent the Cranfield photos to our Sisson List site. Cranfield, Bedfordshire, England was the birth place of Thomas Lawton(1), father of Sarah Lawton who married George Sisson(2). Thomas Lawton was born allegedly on April 17, 1614, in Cranfield. I have learned that the Lawtons were an old Cranfield family and had been there for several generations, before the birth of Thomas. There has been much controversy as to whether Thomas and Elizabeth Salisbury/Salisburie were md. in Cranfield or Portsmouth, R. I. I can definitely say that they were married in Cranfield May 29, 1635. I have received a copy of their original marriage record from the Bedford Parish Records. I was very pleased to locate this record, and learn at last, where they were actually married. Mary Jo Sisson March benoni@centurytel.net

Janice and All, Have a MERRY CHRISTMAS and a Happy New Year. Happy Holdays to all SISSON cousins. Jimmy M. Sisson in OH -----Original Message----- From: sisson-request@rootsweb.com To: sisson@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 3:01 am Subject: SISSON Digest, Vol 2, Issue 84 Today's Topics: 1. Families and Christmas (JRice79761@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 23:10:20 EST From: JRice79761@aol.com Subject: [SISSON] Families and Christmas To: Sisson-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <ccd.258f0940.349750ac@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" This may not be appropriate on this board but what the hay it is Christmas. To each and every Sisson researcher from this moment, and to the lot of us, who for years have been on the trail of our ancestors, Have A Merry Christmas, Hanukah, or just plain ole good year. May all your brick walls come a tumbling down through the New Year! Merry Christmas ALL! Janice **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ------------------------------ To contact the SISSON list administrator, send an email to SISSON-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SISSON mailing list, send an email to SISSON@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SISSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of SISSON Digest, Vol 2, Issue 84 ************************************* ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

This may not be appropriate on this board but what the hay it is Christmas. To each and every Sisson researcher from this moment, and to the lot of us, who for years have been on the trail of our ancestors, Have A Merry Christmas, Hanukah, or just plain ole good year. May all your brick walls come a tumbling down through the New Year! Merry Christmas ALL! Janice **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)

This appears to be the William Sisson that married Elizabeth Walton and was born in Rhinebeck, Dutchess County, New York. His father was James Sisson and mother was Hannah Thompson.The Sisson book, page 82, states that this is probably the James Sisson that was a judge in Syracuse, New York, and died October 26, 1827 in Manlius. That would fit very nicely with the following info that I have here. It shows that Jame's son William migrated to Port Hope, Ontario, Canada. Syracuse is on the way from Dutchess County, New York to Port Hope, Ontario, Canada. Here is what I found: Hope Township History Part 2. William Sisson, J.P., who claims to be (with one exception) the eldest male settler residing in Port Hope, came to the place in June 1823. In his time, he has seen three or four generations pass away. He cam from Duchess County, New York and is the youngest of a large family of sons and daughters. He commenced the manufacturer of leather in Port Hope and carried on the business successfully up to 1852, when he retired, his business having secured him a competency. He took a very active part in the management of the Durham Agricultural Society, having been it's treasurer for forty years. He was also a promoter of the first Mechanics' Institute. He was active in putting down the rebellion of 1837/38, having a command of a troop of calvary ( attached to the Durham regiment) which he was instrumental in raising. He married a neice of Jonathan Walton ( one of the first settlers already noticed) . Mr. Sisson is somewhat remarkable in his locality for the very heterodox opinions entertained by him upon religious subjects. During the War of 1812, a number of Americans with their families arrived and settled in the township. In 1817 the population was 750. ______________________________________________________ continued farther down the page. In the subsequent years and up to 1835, the names of the following persons appear in connection with township and Village affairs. Wm. Sissen is listed. _____________________________________________________ Another listing in 1854 church records. In St. John's Church on Sat. 11th March, Harris Burnham of Clayton, Hamilton Township, and Marion Ann Cecilia, eldest daughter of Wm. Sisson, of this town. (Rev. Jonathan Shortt, Rector of Port Hope). _______________________________________________________ In various census records, William Sisson is shown living in Port Hope, Hope Township, Durham County, Ontario, England. I do not have the complete census records to show children. _____________________________________________________ Ontario Canada Deaths: William Sisson- 3 Feb. 1885- 83 years - Port Hope. Born York State, US. Religion-Church of England. ______________________________________________________ The article somewhat implies that William went to Canada to stay out of the War of 1812. I doubt that was the reason that he went there. The War of 1812 ended around Jan. 1815. William was only 14 or 15 years old when the war ended. The article also states that he arrived in Port Hope in 1823, that is 8 years after the war. I doubt that his father took him there during the War of 1812 since his father died 1827 in Manlius, New York, a few miles from Syracuse and from the Sisson Book was a judge in Syracuse about that time. _____________________________________________________ The following info is from ancestry.com family trees and needs to be verified. William sisson married Eliza Ann Walton, daughter of Nathan Walton and Mary Daily. Eliza was born 1806. Died 1889 Port Hope, Durham, Ontario, Canada. ( according to Ontario Death Records, Eliza Ann Sisson died 30 Dec. 1889 of old age. Eugene Sisson, Port Hope signed off on the information. Children: Marion Ann F (mentioned above in marriage record. Mary Ann Walton F (may be same as Marion) Marion Walton F ( may be a double or triple listing) William James M 1832 ( Ontario Death's list a William James Walton Sisson born abt. 1830. died 2 July 1908, Durham, Ontario. Charles Thaddeus Walton M 1844 ( Ontario Death's list a Charles Thaddeus Eugene Sisson born 1844. Does not match this Charles) Bruce M 1852 (Ontario Death's list a Bruce Le Grange Napolian Sisson, son of William, born abt. 1849, died Aug. 16, 1908- 59 years- single.

Hello, Everyone. I think resemblances between living people are very interesting, but I also think that the only way to tell if there is a real "blood" relationship is through genetic information. In other words, if you don't have exactly matching - or almost matching - Y-chromosome DNA markers, then the relationship is co-incidence. David Arne Sisson larry sisson wrote: > Hi All, > The reasoning I have for my belief that Richard probably came > from northern England is kind of strange. I have seen pictures from three Sisson families that seem to me to look enough like my immediate family that they could pass for my father, myself, my brother, and my first cousin Dean. > There is Edward Allan Sisson and his brother Charles Hamilton > Sisson that are 9th generation descendants of Richard and Mary > that descended from Richard's son James. My line runs from Richard and Mary's son George. I am 11 generations from Richard. > There is a Michael Henry Sisson, who was born in Westmorland, England and immigrated to Ontario, Canada. He looks very similar to my dad. His line according to a family tree on > ancestry is, James, James, and Richard.They were all from > Westmorland, England Michael was born in 1813. Several of > their line ended up in Ontario, Canada. > There is Edward Octavius Sisson, that was a grandson of > William Sisson and Ann White. William was from Northumberland, > England and was born abt. 1791. Edward was born in Durham County, England. Edward's features are very similar to myself, my brother Jerry, and my first cousin Dean Sisson. > and my first cousin Dean. > We know that the one family of Edward Allan Sisson and Charles Hamilton Sisson is descended thru our Richard from > New England. > Michael Henry Sisson's line runs to a Richard Sisson at > Westmorland County, England about the year 1740. > Edward Octavius Sisson was from Durham County, England and is traced back thru his father George to his grandparent's > William Sisson born about 1791 in Northumberland County, > England. > These all look so much like my family that it is hard for me to believe that there are this many generations that separate us. > It is even harder for me to imagine that I am not related somewhere > to Michael Henry Sisson and Edward Octavius Sisson. It is even > harder for me to believe that we are not related after seeing the > pictures of Edward Allan Sisson and Charles Hamilton Sisson who > are related although very very distant. > I am not sure if this is a good reason for my thinking or not, but that > is it in a nutshell. I have seen pictures of several decendants of Richard and Mary that do not look like our family at all. My reasoning on this is that they favor a maternal line at least to some degree. > Larry L. Sisson > > > > > > David Rorer <drorer@fuse.net> wrote: > In my researches on the origin of the name Sisson(s) most of those who bore > these names in 1899 were in northern England, Yorkshire, Nottinghamshire, > Cumbria etc. Very few were in southern England. Using the assumption that a > surname would most likely be found clustered around its place of origin, it > would seem that Sisson(s) came from these areas. > We have one DNA match to this area, which serves to reinforce this theory - > which I must emphasize is just a theory though there is plenty of circumstantial > evidence. > As to the exact origin of the name Sisson(s) it probably was adopted from a > place name which in turn was derived from the name of a Scandinavian (Danish) > settler i.e. from his farm or home stead. > The variation with the final "s" appears to be shorthand for "son of Sisson" a > variation usually found in Welsh names. i.e. Wills and Wilson both mean son of > William and Sissonson would be an awkward construct hence the final "son" > shortened to just "s". > I have basically finished the research on this topic, but broke off working on > it early this year to finish my long promised book on the Clan Macnab and > associated families. That is approaching a point where I have to pronounce "good > enough for now" or it will never be finished - recently came upon a plethora of > good sources which would take years to sort through and add to the aggregate. > Hope to return to the Sisson surname in the New Year. It has grown to at least > six chapters with charts, maps and capacious sources and will be available to > all who are interested on a cd. I will make a printed copy available for perusal > at the next gathering. > > David Rorer > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sisson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sisson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of larry sisson >> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 2:55 AM >> To: Sisson >> Subject: [SISSON] Towns of Massachusetts and Rhode Island >> >> I have thought for the last 3 or 4 years that Richard's line probably >> came from the northern counties of England, Northumberland, >> Durham, or possibly even somewhere in South Scotland. >> I was looking at some of the towns in England and the towns >> with the same names in Massachusetts and Rhode Island. >> It appears that many of the colonist came from the southern >> part of England near the English Channel or from the South >> Wales area near the Bristol Channel , as there are many names of towns and >> villages that were named the same in New England. >> Some of the towns that were in these areas of England and also in Rhode >> Island, or Massachusetts are: >> Plymouth, Dartmouth, Falmouth, Newport, Bristol, Yarmouth, >> Swansea, Tauton, Barnstable, Tiverton, Weymouth and Exeter. I am sure that >> there are probably more that I missed, but this amounts to several towns in a >> small area of England. It might just mean that these towns were near the ports >> where they sailed from >> and thus were some of the last towns that they were in, but >> it is interesting. >> There are probably about the same amount of towns that were >> renamed in these areas from the rest of England, but these few >> are from about 100 miles or less from each other. It would appear >> to me that the majority of the new settlers probably came from >> this area of England. That does not help in our quest to find >> where Richard was from, it appears that it is going to take a >> DNA test that will hopefully narrow this down. >> Anyone have any thoughts about this. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SISSON- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SISSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Everyone, David, I don't disagree with that, at this time, there is no connection to 2 of the lines that I mentioned. The one line thru James, brother of George is a connection, although several generations removed. It is that one line that is re- moved by several generations, that gives me hope that these other lines are connected also. Everything is speculation at this time. I must agree that the line of Richard and Mary Atkinson is looking better all the time, yet it is also speculation at this time. The thing that I like about the Sisson List and the Sisson Website is that they realize this and do not automatically write in someone just to fill empty holes. We see this all the time , especially on the internet. On one of my non Sisson lines, there are people that are filling in names with no proof, and it is all over the internet that a certain person is the father of one of my gg-grandfathers and there is no proof whatsoever. There is quite a bit of circumstantial evidence, but no written records. Even then, we have found several written records, where one says a person was born in England and another one where they were born in the US. DNA would either connect the lines or maybe not connect them, but even then, we would still have no proof for sure where someone was born. Hopefully one of these days we can get more Sisson's and Sissons from England and Canada to participate in the Sisson DNA project. Who knows, with all the new records that are becoming more available across the world due to the internet, someone may find a written record that fits with what we already know to be true. I didn't intend to stir up a hornet's nest or anything, I am just getting some discussion going prior to the next Sisson Gathering at Springfield, Illinois in June. By the way, I believe that I have found another unconnected line of Sisson's/ Sissons that is not in our database.It appears to start in England, possibly the Sheffield area to Oregon and then to Scott County, Illinois. It appears to be somewhat of a complicated line, but traceable for around 70 years so far. I will be sending that info to Carol. If anyone is interested, let me know and I will email it to whoever has an interest. Larry L. Sisson David A Sisson <dsisson2@rochester.rr.com> wrote: Hello, Everyone. I think resemblances between living people are very interesting, but I also think that the only way to tell if there is a real "blood" relationship is through genetic information. In other words, if you don't have exactly matching - or almost matching - Y-chromosome DNA markers, then the relationship is co-incidence. David Arne Sisson larry sisson wrote: > Hi All, > The reasoning I have for my belief that Richard probably came > from northern England is kind of strange. I have seen pictures from three Sisson families that seem to me to look enough like my immediate family that they could pass for my father, myself, my brother, and my first cousin Dean. > There is Edward Allan Sisson and his brother Charles Hamilton > Sisson that are 9th generation descendants of Richard and Mary > that descended from Richard's son James. My line runs from Richard and Mary's son George. I am 11 generations from Richard. > There is a Michael Henry Sisson, who was born in Westmorland, England and immigrated to Ontario, Canada. He looks very similar to my dad. His line according to a family tree on > ancestry is, James, James, and Richard.They were all from > Westmorland, England Michael was born in 1813. Several of > their line ended up in Ontario, Canada. > There is Edward Octavius Sisson, that was a grandson of > William Sisson and Ann White. William was from Northumberland, > England and was born abt. 1791. Edward was born in Durham County, England. Edward's features are very similar to myself, my brother Jerry, and my first cousin Dean Sisson. > and my first cousin Dean. > We know that the one family of Edward Allan Sisson and Charles Hamilton Sisson is descended thru our Richard from > New England. > Michael Henry Sisson's line runs to a Richard Sisson at > Westmorland County, England about the year 1740. > Edward Octavius Sisson was from Durham County, England and is traced back thru his father George to his grandparent's > William Sisson born about 1791 in Northumberland County, > England. > These all look so much like my family that it is hard for me to believe that there are this many generations that separate us. > It is even harder for me to imagine that I am not related somewhere > to Michael Henry Sisson and Edward Octavius Sisson. It is even > harder for me to believe that we are not related after seeing the > pictures of Edward Allan Sisson and Charles Hamilton Sisson who > are related although very very distant. > I am not sure if this is a good reason for my thinking or not, but that > is it in a nutshell. I have seen pictures of several decendants of Richard and Mary that do not look like our family at all. My reasoning on this is that they favor a maternal line at least to some degree. > Larry L. Sisson > > > > > > David Rorer wrote: > In my researches on the origin of the name Sisson(s) most of those who bore > these names in 1899 were in northern England, Yorkshire, Nottinghamshire, > Cumbria etc. Very few were in southern England. Using the assumption that a > surname would most likely be found clustered around its place of origin, it > would seem that Sisson(s) came from these areas. > We have one DNA match to this area, which serves to reinforce this theory - > which I must emphasize is just a theory though there is plenty of circumstantial > evidence. > As to the exact origin of the name Sisson(s) it probably was adopted from a > place name which in turn was derived from the name of a Scandinavian (Danish) > settler i.e. from his farm or home stead. > The variation with the final "s" appears to be shorthand for "son of Sisson" a > variation usually found in Welsh names. i.e. Wills and Wilson both mean son of > William and Sissonson would be an awkward construct hence the final "son" > shortened to just "s". > I have basically finished the research on this topic, but broke off working on > it early this year to finish my long promised book on the Clan Macnab and > associated families. That is approaching a point where I have to pronounce "good > enough for now" or it will never be finished - recently came upon a plethora of > good sources which would take years to sort through and add to the aggregate. > Hope to return to the Sisson surname in the New Year. It has grown to at least > six chapters with charts, maps and capacious sources and will be available to > all who are interested on a cd. I will make a printed copy available for perusal > at the next gathering. > > David Rorer > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sisson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sisson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of larry sisson >> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 2:55 AM >> To: Sisson >> Subject: [SISSON] Towns of Massachusetts and Rhode Island >> >> I have thought for the last 3 or 4 years that Richard's line probably >> came from the northern counties of England, Northumberland, >> Durham, or possibly even somewhere in South Scotland. >> I was looking at some of the towns in England and the towns >> with the same names in Massachusetts and Rhode Island. >> It appears that many of the colonist came from the southern >> part of England near the English Channel or from the South >> Wales area near the Bristol Channel , as there are many names of towns and >> villages that were named the same in New England. >> Some of the towns that were in these areas of England and also in Rhode >> Island, or Massachusetts are: >> Plymouth, Dartmouth, Falmouth, Newport, Bristol, Yarmouth, >> Swansea, Tauton, Barnstable, Tiverton, Weymouth and Exeter. I am sure that >> there are probably more that I missed, but this amounts to several towns in a >> small area of England. It might just mean that these towns were near the ports >> where they sailed from >> and thus were some of the last towns that they were in, but >> it is interesting. >> There are probably about the same amount of towns that were >> renamed in these areas from the rest of England, but these few >> are from about 100 miles or less from each other. It would appear >> to me that the majority of the new settlers probably came from >> this area of England. That does not help in our quest to find >> where Richard was from, it appears that it is going to take a >> DNA test that will hopefully narrow this down. >> Anyone have any thoughts about this. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SISSON- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SISSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Michael Henry Sisson that I mentioned was born May 5th, 1840. The date I gave of 1813 should be Dec. 21, 1813 and was for his father James.

Hi All, The reasoning I have for my belief that Richard probably came from northern England is kind of strange. I have seen pictures from three Sisson families that seem to me to look enough like my immediate family that they could pass for my father, myself, my brother, and my first cousin Dean. There is Edward Allan Sisson and his brother Charles Hamilton Sisson that are 9th generation descendants of Richard and Mary that descended from Richard's son James. My line runs from Richard and Mary's son George. I am 11 generations from Richard. There is a Michael Henry Sisson, who was born in Westmorland, England and immigrated to Ontario, Canada. He looks very similar to my dad. His line according to a family tree on ancestry is, James, James, and Richard.They were all from Westmorland, England Michael was born in 1813. Several of their line ended up in Ontario, Canada. There is Edward Octavius Sisson, that was a grandson of William Sisson and Ann White. William was from Northumberland, England and was born abt. 1791. Edward was born in Durham County, England. Edward's features are very similar to myself, my brother Jerry, and my first cousin Dean Sisson. and my first cousin Dean. We know that the one family of Edward Allan Sisson and Charles Hamilton Sisson is descended thru our Richard from New England. Michael Henry Sisson's line runs to a Richard Sisson at Westmorland County, England about the year 1740. Edward Octavius Sisson was from Durham County, England and is traced back thru his father George to his grandparent's William Sisson born about 1791 in Northumberland County, England. These all look so much like my family that it is hard for me to believe that there are this many generations that separate us. It is even harder for me to imagine that I am not related somewhere to Michael Henry Sisson and Edward Octavius Sisson. It is even harder for me to believe that we are not related after seeing the pictures of Edward Allan Sisson and Charles Hamilton Sisson who are related although very very distant. I am not sure if this is a good reason for my thinking or not, but that is it in a nutshell. I have seen pictures of several decendants of Richard and Mary that do not look like our family at all. My reasoning on this is that they favor a maternal line at least to some degree. Larry L. Sisson David Rorer <drorer@fuse.net> wrote: In my researches on the origin of the name Sisson(s) most of those who bore these names in 1899 were in northern England, Yorkshire, Nottinghamshire, Cumbria etc. Very few were in southern England. Using the assumption that a surname would most likely be found clustered around its place of origin, it would seem that Sisson(s) came from these areas. We have one DNA match to this area, which serves to reinforce this theory - which I must emphasize is just a theory though there is plenty of circumstantial evidence. As to the exact origin of the name Sisson(s) it probably was adopted from a place name which in turn was derived from the name of a Scandinavian (Danish) settler i.e. from his farm or home stead. The variation with the final "s" appears to be shorthand for "son of Sisson" a variation usually found in Welsh names. i.e. Wills and Wilson both mean son of William and Sissonson would be an awkward construct hence the final "son" shortened to just "s". I have basically finished the research on this topic, but broke off working on it early this year to finish my long promised book on the Clan Macnab and associated families. That is approaching a point where I have to pronounce "good enough for now" or it will never be finished - recently came upon a plethora of good sources which would take years to sort through and add to the aggregate. Hope to return to the Sisson surname in the New Year. It has grown to at least six chapters with charts, maps and capacious sources and will be available to all who are interested on a cd. I will make a printed copy available for perusal at the next gathering. David Rorer > -----Original Message----- > From: sisson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sisson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of larry sisson > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 2:55 AM > To: Sisson > Subject: [SISSON] Towns of Massachusetts and Rhode Island > > I have thought for the last 3 or 4 years that Richard's line probably > came from the northern counties of England, Northumberland, > Durham, or possibly even somewhere in South Scotland. > I was looking at some of the towns in England and the towns > with the same names in Massachusetts and Rhode Island. > It appears that many of the colonist came from the southern > part of England near the English Channel or from the South > Wales area near the Bristol Channel , as there are many names of towns and > villages that were named the same in New England. > Some of the towns that were in these areas of England and also in Rhode > Island, or Massachusetts are: > Plymouth, Dartmouth, Falmouth, Newport, Bristol, Yarmouth, > Swansea, Tauton, Barnstable, Tiverton, Weymouth and Exeter. I am sure that > there are probably more that I missed, but this amounts to several towns in a > small area of England. It might just mean that these towns were near the ports > where they sailed from > and thus were some of the last towns that they were in, but > it is interesting. > There are probably about the same amount of towns that were > renamed in these areas from the rest of England, but these few > are from about 100 miles or less from each other. It would appear > to me that the majority of the new settlers probably came from > this area of England. That does not help in our quest to find > where Richard was from, it appears that it is going to take a > DNA test that will hopefully narrow this down. > Anyone have any thoughts about this. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SISSON- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message