-----Original Message----- From: tara13 <tara13@gateway.net> To: asburdette@juno.com <asburdette@juno.com> Cc: Peggy Treece <treece@psych.purdue.edu> Date: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 4:52 PM Subject: Re: Re:Shuman Genealogy >Ann, > >I'm so glad we're getting together via email. What a wonderful world we >morals can make with all the technology we now have available to us. > >A copy of the marriage Certificate between James W. Shuman and Miss Margaret >Steoof(which makes me wonder if this last name could be Steuffer and not >spelled properly?) that I have states they were married January 1, 1857. >This is why I've guestion the birth date of your GGrandfather, James Jacob >(my grandfather, Charles Augustus' half brother). It would be so very >difficult for Margaret to have had a baby and get married on the same day!! >This is why I believe James Jacob was born January 1, 1858. Do you have a >copy of this marriage certificate as I do? After Margaret's death, he then >married my GGrandmother, Miss Jane Stauffer on May 13, 1863. You did say >that James Jacob was orphaned very early in life and late adopted after his >father, James W. passed away. The only children I've been able to come up >with for James W. Shuman is as follows: > >Catherine (b) 1851 - mother Martha Beaty - married to James W. April 11, >1850 >James Jacob - (who married your grandmother Miss Isabell Northey) - mother >Margaret Steoff on 1-1-1857 >Brenone (b) 1863 - mother Jane Stauffer (I was incorrect stating her mother >was Martha Beaty in my previous message) >Charles Augustus - (b) 4-30-1865 - mother Janes Stauffer - married Margaret >Elizabeth Beaty >John (b) 1866 - mother - Jane Stauffer > >A question for you is whether James' first wife Martha Beaty and Charles >Augustus' wife Lizzy were related? >I know nothing about my grandmother, Margaret Elizabeth Beaty. > >No, I'm not certain that the William H. Shuman I mentioned, is the same >William that is listed on the passenger list of 1860. It would not be the >same person since your census has a William H. Shuman for 1850 and 1860 >unless he did a great deal of travelling!! Unlikely, right? > > I do not know anything about William C. Beaty. You think that this WC >Beaty is Lizzy's father? You mentioned a census of 1860 that listed WC >Beaty and Tom Age 10. Do you have a census of 1870, and if so, does it >have Lizzy mention? She would have been age 6 for the 1870 census. Or, >even a census of 1880 making her age 16. Lizzy didn't get married to CA >Shuman until 1885. > >Dan Bowen and Sheryl are related to Minnie Shuman Bowen - daughter of CA and >Lizzy Shuman- and my daddy was their youngest child, Lee Washington Shuman. > >Please let me hear more from you on that records you have and what they are! >I must get a scanner so you can scan some of these valuable papers to me. > >Looking forward to hearing from you and your sister, Peggy. Take care and >do let me hear from you. > >Judi > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: asburdette@juno.com <asburdette@juno.com> >To: tara13@gateway.net <tara13@gateway.net> >Cc: Sheryl.Rutledge@thehartford.com <Sheryl.Rutledge@thehartford.com>; >SHUMAN-L@rootsweb.com <SHUMAN-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 12:55 PM >Subject: Re:Shuman Genealogy > > >>Judi, >> >> I think you are the Judi that I have corresponded with before. Just >>read you posting of 10/10/99 in response to Sheryl Rutledge and was >>interested in all the info! Here are a few thoughts I had as I studied >>it . ( My father, Cornwell Shuman, my sister Peggy Treece, and I have >>been working on this line a long time. We are descended from James W. >>Shuman and his 2nd wife, Margaret Steeof and their son James Jacob. We >>think James W. and William H. Shuman were both sons of Jacob, 1790-1843.) >> >>>From various sources (census records, death notice, Bible) we thought >>James Jacob was b Nov. 1857 and his mother Margaret d June 1860. If so, >>she could not have been the mother of Brenone (Benne V. or Beena or Buna, >>as Cornwell interpreted the census) who was b about 1863 and is listed in >>the 1880 census as Jane Shuman's dau age 18. >> >>Charles "Dan" Bowen sent a list of Gus and Lizzy's children with dates. >>He must be a gr-uncle to Sheryl. Also have corresponded with Susie >>Wiggins who is Archie Albert Shuman's g.dau., I think. >> >>Do you know who Lizzie Beaty Shuman's parents were? And are you sure the >>William H. Shuman you mentioned really came from Germany in 1860? The >>dates agree with the Wm. H. with Margaret in the 1860 census, living with >>or adjacent to Wm.C.Beaty, probably her father. The dates also agree >>with the William Shuman, age 12, living with Catherina Shuman in the 1850 >>census adjacent to W.C.Beaty. >> >> The Bill Shuman who raised Lizzy might have been this Wm. H. Shuman, >>who was called "Billy' according to a descendant. Wm.C.Beaty had a >>Thomas, age 10, (son or g.son?) with him in the 1860 census, who might >>have been the Tom who also raised Lizzy. >> >>Anxiously awaiting your replies. Ann Shuman Burdette >><asburdette@juno.com> >> >>___________________________________________________________________ >>Get the Internet just the way you want it. >>Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! >>Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. >> >